How We Arrived on Fearless Draft | League of Legends

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

One thing in dota2 was a tournament called "midas mode". In summary, every team has X amount of points. All heroes cost the same points to draft. Everytime a hero is picked, it adds Y to the cost Everytime a hero is not picked, it removes cost. Therefore you would have to "ration" your picks on meta heroes, because it will cost a lot of your draft points. Additionally, banned popular heroes cost more points Could be cool one off tournament idea.

[@PrT0xic]

That’s cool for sure, do both teams share the same hero prices or is it independent for each team?

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

​@@PrT0xic same prices for each team, all teams picks affected the price, I believe one of the casters was an economist and made each hero like a "stock" that people were effectively buying and selling lol

[@retronymph]

Except in Dota, pro hero diversity is way higher than it's ever been in league so this was a fun gimmick and not necessary to get pros to play other heroes. Also Midas mode was way weirder than you're leading on, lol

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

@ it's true pro hero is way higher in dota, but that just makes it better? the "meta" picks would cost even more because its harder to substitute them. Midas mode had other things like "quests", and it wasnt a serious tournament, but other than that I don't know what you mean by weird. You don't have to copy EVERYTHING from an idea, just the good bits, riot games would know, that's all they do

[@Boosticuff]

I love these analytical break downs of the game and its systems. It’s wonderful having such clear communication with the devs when most games this large barely communicate with their community.

[@bigdamij]

Looking good Phreak. Thank you for the break down as always.

[@TiaguinhoMu]

Funny thing that baseline requirement to play Ranked games since forever, has been to have 20 champions on your pool. And here we are asking pros to have "at least" 14. The way we have been playing the game is twisting so much of the OG stuff

[@Liguehunters]

@@TiaguinhoMu Its almost like you potentially cant play at ALL if you dont have 20 Champions atleast

[@fernandossmm]

38:10 I'm not sure if you read this, but you should measure pro pickrate with (games_where_picked + games_where_banned) / games_where_available. That way, a champ that is always picked first game in fearless still has 100% presence, because the rest of the games it wasn't even pickable. That'd be a better measure to continue your pro balancing strategy.

[@Langharig_Tuig]

Fearless draft finally has me excited to watch Esports again. This shouldve been done about 7 years ago or so, but whatever. Im just so happy it is finally here. It will also finally show pros that are genuinely better at the same game that the rest of us play, because Esports LoL has always felt like a completely different game because of how set in stone the meta usually is; it basicly being a handshake agreement between about 20 champions or so. Maybe flexible players with some exciting pocket picks might actually find their way to the top now

[@TiaguinhoMu]

Funny thing that baseline requirement to play Ranked games since forever, has been to have 20 champions on your pool. And here we are asking pros to have "at least" 14. The way we have been playing the game is twisting so much of the OG stuff

[@Anonx2023]

I haven't watched competitive LoL outside of worlds ever since season 6. If fearless draft becomes mandatory and the standard for all the major tournaments like Worlds, MSI, etc. I would legit watch every playoff series.

[@thecynth3820]

@@TiaguinhoMu Tbf, pros being a little more specialized is to be expected, but I do miss the good old days where spamming Ctrl V into chat was how you got you're role, and you expected to manage everything decently well lol

[@kkkkkkkk652]

fearless draft is probably the best idea y'all had in a while, opens up the perma weak pro play characters makes games more interesting to watch because it isn't always the same and makes teams get more creative, it's suchhhh a good idea, really really excited to see some characters out of pro jail because of this

[@TonyDingus]

A tournament like MSI or Worlds running Fearless draft would be so hype. PLEASE make it happen. Sick of seeing the same 15 champs every game.

[@99_King_0]

very excited for esports this year

[@TiaguinhoMu]

Funny thing that baseline requirement to play Ranked games since forever, has been to have 20 champions on your pool. And here we are asking pros to have "at least" 14. The way we have been playing the game is twisting so much of the OG stuff

[@JakobMusic]

Fearless draft is a pro. New perma-fighting meta is a con.

[@andreamazzeo4306]

I hope fearless becomes the standard for all Bo5s in every tournament.

[@dirtydard4870]

Maybe wait and see how it turns out

[@TiaguinhoMu]

Funny thing that baseline requirement to play Ranked games since forever, has been to have 20 champions on your pool. And here we are asking pros to have "at least" 14. The way we have been playing the game is twisting so much of the OG stuff

[@raphaels33]

It gonna fail miserably. people dont wanna see diversity for the sake of diversity. they want to see diversity narutally throught the balance of the game.

[@moosehole1289]

​@@TiaguinhoMu if you are last pick red side, there are 19 bans/picks before you pick. If you didn't have 20 champs it would be a forced dodge. Has nothing to do with pro champ pools...

[@shinobuu__]

@@raphaels33 pros in league will never naturally diversify their champ pools. League could have a perfectly balanced game and pros would still default to the same champs every game. League pros are the only pros i've seen do this in a competitive game before. All others games I've seen have pros actively trying to find hidden strats/counters to things.

[@liare]

So excited for this! When you can predict with 75% accuracy what champs are gonna be in a professional pick-ban phase things feel really stale. Having pros expand their pool and creating their own unique identities are gonna be awesome. Pros being associated with specific champs feels really dope. Can't wait for like a clutch demon-performance on Shaco or someone smashing top with Sett and stuff like that. Love this 😊🤘

[@supertaakot]

The point about predicting the draft is SO true. I really wish pros could expand their drafting because there's a whole world of unexplored drafts that aren't necessarily "cheeses" like double funnel or soraka/sona taric etc...

[@raphaels33]

disagree. quality of games will drop a lot late on the series.... some picks gonna appears just because doesnt have anything else the results are soloq champions that doesnt have any strategic depht . cant force diversity for the sake of diversity, It have to happen naturally throught game balance.

[@leonardo9259]

Well well well guess what they're doing, they're encouraging new picks so that they get actual information as to what a champ needs to be good in pro​@@raphaels33

[@worldiefeard8396]

@@raphaels33 it's not so much about "forcing diversity" per se. One of the main issue pros have, as Phreak implied at start of the video, is that proplayers don't really feel the need to even bother learning more chars because time investment in a char you will play *maybe* once per season is wasted whereas practicing champions that are "good always" is much better spent. Remember that playing a champion at soloqueue level (even master/gm) is way different than playing a champion in proplay, both due to the amount of economy you get (don't ever dream to get more than 3 items as a jungler or even more than 1 as a support in proplay f.e., and at same time you don't exactly get the entire map fed to you as adc in soloqueue either). More varied drafts also encourage pros to actually pick/learn more of the "viable but not top dog" champions, because the chance they will have to use them in series is much more real and they don't want to end up literally having their entire champion pool unavailable in game 5.

[@Aeivious]

​@raphaels33 or it will show us which teams have people who can play more than 2 champs, which is an absolute positive. Id rather see game 3 maybe be slightly worse, but not be the same 10 champs swapped between the teams

[@hammerth1421]

As someone native to Overwatch, I'm awestruck by how well changes to League are thought out and communicated. Good job, Phreak!

[@ichdu0014]

The shade on LS with the Z- tier mention xD

[@Walkxll]

Z triple plus nonetheless

[@HienLeGia]

They DO banter and talk behind the scenes, don't you know that?

[@Pulo747]

​@HienLeGia it's good faith banter but banter nonetheless

[@Htnn]

Fearless Draft is maybe the most genius idea I've ever seen in E-Sports. I am not someone who usually follows LoL E-sports all that closely even though I play the game a ton. With this Fearless Draft change I can deff see me watching a whole heck of a lot more games than I did previously.

[@TiaguinhoMu]

Funny thing that baseline requirement to play Ranked games since forever, has been to have 20 champions on your pool. And here we are asking pros to have "at least" 14. The way we have been playing the game is twisting so much of the OG stuff

[@netgregory]

Great to hear the thought process behind these changes and the strategy. Have used Design Thinking in many projects in my career and hearing how it translates in Game Design and Game Theory is really cool.

[@XCeazyX]

Really educational video just from the perspective of what working a job like this is like and a good example of giving a presentation about a project with many moving parts, timelines, alternate pitches, etc. Thanks Phreak.

[@MurexHyena]

This is going to be so good that we will also want it for split 2 and 3

[@hammerth1421]

Depending on how it plays out, the teams themselves might end up pushing to keep it for the rest of the season because they simply don't want to re-adjust back to normal pick-ban draft.

[@ChristopherAndersonDP]

Hearing about all of the alternatives you considered is really interesting. I'm stoked to see how fearless draft plays out.

[@zacharialopez4284]

TY for the content my goat. Always love to hear your thoughts

[@frogmanxbl7129]

Great analysis and very fun discussion of game theory implications of different choices, keep up the great work!

[@pedroeol]

This is looking super good. Excited to see how things go in this split ^^ Thank you Phreak for the explanation. Nice outro btw xDDD

[@justice2708]

One of the best esports explainers I have ever seen.

[@Janders797]

I am excited for official tournaments, mostly because variety in Pro play leads to variety in casual play, which leads to more broken stuff being discovered, and likely also fixed.

[@michaelwoodhead2726]

There was a survey sent out last year, asking amongst other questions how to improve the esports viewership. I actually suggested a format similar to the fearless draft that they are implementing. I'm very excited for this upcoming season.

[@nickmajora]

Excited to watch some fearless and see how it pans out. Going forward I suspect eliminating only champions a teams wins with and/or removing bans might be improvements.

[@ianlunger8656]

Huge props for this decision - It keeps games fresh and rewards innovation

[@awoat]

Great video. Best ending yet

[@MentalMittens]

havent watched the video yet, but love that videos like this one get made, even if i end up disagreeing by the time ive watched this, I respect the transparency and effort put into communicating with the community

[@klowbye]

Really glad for this, im very hyped to watch pro games using Fearless Draft.

[@SharksFan1997]

Really appreciate this video. Personally I love the idea of the new format. But even if I didn't seeing you talk it out like this I'd imagine is helpful.

[@itsmeitsmeitsmitchyt]

League aside, these videos improve my critical thinking and help me appreciate the design of systems in a way that I previously had no concept of. Ty Phreak, this channel is crazy good.

[@StimReaper]

@Phreak I've had an idea for awhile that is basically a combination of two of your unrepresented pitches. I think it would be really cool if there was a pre-match, blind ban phase that also has a few protection picks. Both teams would submit a list of 5 bans and 2 (maybe 3?) protected picks before the match begins. The 5 bans apply ONLY to the other team, and they apply for the whole match, regardless of series length. The protected picks are protected only from the blind, pre-match bans. Protected picks can still be picked/banned by either team as usual in the normal draft phase of each game. I think there are a lot of benefits to this approach. Exciting mind-game storylines can emerge. Like maybe you don't actually protect a famous pocket pick that a player on your team has, because you know the other team will expect you to protect it, so you think they won't waste a ban on something they "know" you're going to protect. Anothe benefit is that no time is added to pick-bans, because it's all done pre-match. And it gives another interesting thing to cover on the broadcast while a match is being set up. Also because it is pre-match, both teams have time to strategize around the results of the blind ban phase, resulting in more interesting strategic choices in the normal drafts that follow. I am very excited about fearless draft though. It will give even more champion diversity than the above idea would. But if more draft tinkering is done in the future, I hope you will consider adding something like that.

[@cedrichofstetter4057]

I'm really excited to see how fearless shakes out in Split 1 and the possible iterations into the future!

[@sapphire--9375]

Damn its cool hearing a bunch of concise breakdowns and thoughts of a bunch of pitches by phreak lol

[@B1GB1RDB4G3L]

Great video phreak, love your communication

[@zurcarak]

At least 12 picks for every role for an example of the possible variety we can expect: -top: ksante, renekton, gnar, jax, camille, fiora, gragas, ryze, ambessa, rumble, aurora, garen -jg: wukong, vi, maokai, sej, viego, skarner, xin, j4, gwen, ivern, noc, karthus -mid: syndra, ori, viktor, azir, ahri, taliyah, lb, neeko, irelia, yone, yas, akali -bot: jinx, aphelios, ezreal, ashe, mf, jhin, senna, corki, kalista, varus, ziggs, hwei -supp: alistar, naut, leona, braum, tamh, pyke, rakan, rell, blitz, bard, milio, sona

[@MurexHyena]

This is the best thing ever

[@sethmasters2147]

Really excited for this change! I think it will really make tournaments better.

[@TheSorrowfulAngel]

Amazing outro, as always x) Im looking forward to this. Should honestly make proplay a lot more interesting. Big pro play balance outliers also cannot be as dominant anymore in this system. And maybe this means that, down the line, proplay balance strategy can be changed to be less influential on domestic play.

[@Stezzone]

I'm not even a hardcore league player but I still enjoy these videos

[@whyeumadbro]

Honestly I'm really enjoying Fearless Draft so far. I never watched pro-games for the main reason that each game was too similar. Since Fearless Draft had arrived I've been watching upwards of 10 hours of pro-games per week. Fearless Draft makes every pro-game unique and rises some very interesting off-meta picks. Good Decision King.

[@delvegameguides]

I'm so happy about fearless, this game has needed this so badly for so long. My advice would be to keep it as simple as possible, I feel like viewers will appreciate the variety and players will warm up to it, and that's how the game should be. More importantly, I want to say that I'm so far loving Swiftplay, the thing is that I still know when I'm outplaying my opponents, (or when my opponent is outplaying me) but it doesn't feel like the game is just over because one team or my lane opponent got an early lead. So I personally wouldn't mind if you guys started thinking about moving some swiftplay mechanics over to ranked, at some point as the data comes in. And I also want to thank you personally, as well as Riot for looking in that direction at least, it's been a major frustration point for me for a long while now and I'm really grateful you guys seem to be on the same page, more or less.

[@thiamond3]

such an exciting and (to me, surprisingly) logical change

[@AlreadyTiredOfYou]

This is going to be amazing as an e-sposrt fan!

[@kpkost]

Fuck yeah. Probably the most exciting change for viewership ever. I MIGHT be able to see SHaco at some point!

[@DevTech23]

I haven't seriously watched LoL esports in at least 8 years. This is actually a super exciting change that should highlight lesser picked champs. I enjoyed the early seasons of LoL esports where each region would bring a crazy selection of champs that other regions never even though of using in pro play. Can't wait to tune into LEC and LTA this year.

[@BrendanZanitCoen]

I’m both scared and excited looking at my teams pickups this year. And some of our ex players had big champ pools. I’m SPOOKED.

[@achrefzeddini2484]

No free chests. Trash missions and pass (will not purchase any more battle passes) No champion capsules when leveling up (are you kidding me ????) 5 min + queue times. Too much new stuff in the game. My team does not even know they should get the objectives. I'm out till they fix this.

[@micemu]

I absolutely love this new format, great decision

[@WWFanatic0]

Gotta love when being subscribed and ringing the bell STILL doesn't give me the notification nor show up on my homepage.

[@eyesee5413]

forgot to comment when i watched but came back to say ty for video after thinking about what would be the best format.

[@B1GB1RDB4G3L]

Looking forward to watching this format

[@zsnzHD]

Fearless is the best thing to happen to competitive league in years. I feel it has been needed for a while because of powercreep and champion pool bloating. It should be used for every single Bo3 and Bo5 from now on. Would be amazing if Worlds 2025 was played using Fearless.

[@Aeivious]

Another thing this makes more interesting is it actually validates esports teams with more than 5 players. Maybe you have two midlaners, but they play a different pool of heros kinda thing.

[@warvinn]

The last time I was this hyped for LoL Esports was like Season 6

[@Some_Awe]

i LOVE fearless or atleast the changing draft, getting teams to submit like 3 mutual bans before draft wouldve been so nice aswell

[@harveyhutsby7697]

very enjoyable video. As you said near the start, design fundamentals are always the same. I am studying in a completely different design field, but this was educational.

[@galio2012]

I pitched an idea like this into the ether of Twitter years ago. But I think having the winning champions banned, for both teams, for subsequent games is better than punishing every pick.

[@arinlirgaming]

Question is why it took so long. This was the only answer to seeing same 15 champs every game.

[@makadur7438]

The pre tournament draft seems like a really fun way for a tournament. IMHO having 1 tournament per year with changing rules could make for a very entertaining experience.

[@guimontezuma1508]

Change the Feats of strength. Replace "First Blood" with a challenge where the goal is for a player to eliminate all members of the opposing team, similar to Rengar's passive or the Treasure Hunter rune. It would be epic to chase down that player who's 10/0, hunting them across the map to secure the objective. This would create more team strategies.

[@realOGvoli]

Wow what an amazing idea it great to league of legends evolving after such a prolonged state of monotmy.

[@VeralionRawr]

People are flaming me for picking shyvana again, i really appreciate you going out of your way to make me feel like crap every time i play the game

[@HienLeGia]

Been waiting for another Phreak Fundamentals Fun 😂

[@starstranger2114]

Wow. Great video. I had so many question that were all addressed. And recently I've also started to really dislike bans. I agree with the sentiment that it's a cheap way to deal with picks. It stifles a constantly evolving meta if teams don't have to counter a champ. But then you can't experiment, because if you get a counter then it just gets banned instead. However, I still had one question that wasn't presented in this video: Instead of Fearless, what if you just locked a team from a draft they won on? If they win on certain champions, those champs are locked out for them for the rest of the series. Instead of being locked out for everyone, win or lose.

[@WFFLDealer]

Thank you for explaining this exciting change, love the initiative to bring open mindedness in both pro play and thus also in general play. This from someone who has played Syndra Support and loved it.

[@apexhuman1777]

If you can get the champs rip blue essence

[@silverpact1008]

Let me just pause at 0:20 and give an answer the entire community has had for years: Because it's interesting. It's fun to watch. Anyone can be a OTP and climb to Challenger rank 1 with enough time. We expect our pros to be better. To know a more diverse champion pool, to know match-ups, to know different item builds to face different situations that arise from a more diverse pool of possible enemy comps. And NONE of that is available in current ranked format. It's pretty much 20-25 champions played more than 3 times through the entire season, and certainly no more than that at worlds most years. It's the same cookie cutter builds, to deal with the same cookie cutter enemy comps, to deal with the same cookie cutter gameplay. It's not fun to watch, and it shows almost 0 skill expression. The only difference between a pro and a challenger streamer in the current pro scene gamestate is usually a personality that's at least capable of team play. That's pretty much it. If they aren't a piece of garbage, they can be a pro. Which sounds fine, but solo queue draft and pro play SHOULD be entirely different, not so insanely similar that you can pretty much transfer game tactics 1 for 1 with a bit of team communication, and find equal if not greater success. The pros should be pros. The best. There should be no question. Instead, currently, the pros are (outside of players who have other value to their team, such as merch sales or popularity) just the lowest price-to-sign players capable of competing at a baseline level. The reason we don't find Faker-level players anymore is because the teams are disincentivized to find one. Costs too much. Better to pump out 7 second-rate players than accidentally find a first rate player and have to pay them appropriately, when the pro scene just isn't that difficult to begin with.

[@alastair7140]

Thanks for the info as always phreak!

[@kipp14]

Meta game optimization external to the game at hand in the short term would be bad but would improve the overall quality of the support staff specifically analysis. The biggest problem I've had as a viewer is the lack of draft preparation in most western regions is almost always based on bad or incomplete analysis.

[@darkking4748]

I wish you guys had also implemented ban carry over as well, where if a champ is banned it can’t be picked or banned for the series. Would have opened up even more options

[@Aleksdgr8t]

Hi Phreak would it be cool if the official multikill timer was longer? So many long teamfights with unofficial pentas or quadras. Last game I had 1 long teamfight where I scored a double and a triple in 27 seconds between first kill and last, but the teams as a whole were in the teamfight the whole time

[@zoroark522]

The topic of pro-play balancing and pro jail is a topic I've heard august talk about a lot as well. You mentioned it at the end of the video a little, but do you think there are solutions to the issue? I feel like I know the problem and methods to fix this, but I would need more time to study and think about it.

[@totoyuki1]

Pro jail is kinda hard. Fearless does somewhat address it, by having champions with strong team oriented abilities having to be used strategically. This allows characters like Galio, Ryze, Gnar, etc. to see some meaningful buffs on its own, because it now can't be P/B for all 5 games in a series. It doesn't solve for everything though. Some champions will just never be allowed to be too good in the format, so Ryze, and Galio, who I mentioned before, will probably never be allowed to be as good as they could be in Solo Q, because then they could just completely take over pro games when they are picked. Theres not really a solution to that which would actually be functional and useful. People have suggested stuff as extreme as pros having special buffs and nerfs in tournaments, so Galio does innately 10% less damage or something, but that couldn't actually work because it would completely fuck over any solo q practice with that champion, ingraining bad trade habits that work and are fine in one place, but would be unuseable in pro.

[@daxentomasivern7744]

i love fearless draft ,good change phreak !!

[@Achievementsish]

I know this might not be the video for it, but I wanted to ask about Yuumi, specifically, any plans for her to get any compensation with the feats of strength? considering she is balanced around not building boots like Cassio have, while not as real and enforced as cassio, Yuumi kinda has a "Cannot buy boots" sneakily on her already. I appreciate any thoughts, I feel like with the heavy focus on roam and boots, she was kind of left in the dust.

[@mactheattack100]

Hey with the addition of fearless pro draft do you think Rell Jungle could come back?

[@PassivesAbseits]

Fearless draft is fun for the early part of the season. But having it all season long would take away one of my favorite things: A player winning both sides of a match up! Beating the opponent on the exact champion, he just got stomped on, is the ultimate proof of a skill gap.

[@kylbarry4466]

You could still get that just series to series

[@BRAZILIAN_MIKU]

Rare phreak W

[@UwU_Blaster]

You changed the game pimp, that’s what you did

[@PassivesAbseits]

On the whole "Disable Champions for a tournament" thing: You shouldn't do this, if a champ gets picked a lot, but if it has a ban rate of over 95%. The obvious historic example is the "Bruiser Worlds Patch", where Gangplank, Elise and Mordekaiser were so fundamentally broken, that they had to be banned in every game. All teams basically agreed to this. And if that happens, the meta becomes really stale, because you have no room to adapt your bans towards the opponents signature picks.

[@optyfen5276]

I like the extent you guys went to think outside of the box, I have one question about pro jail picks: you said that fearless allows for champs to be less pro jailed (Varus, Ashe etc), but how exactly? Does that mean the champ gets buffed and we will see an overpowerd Varus/Ashe in G1 every game (or bans)?

[@TriedVenom]

can corki with package come back now?

[@jususi71]

havent watched the whole vid yet, but if this what i think its about, what happens when 1 team gets malp and the opposing team lucks out and gets sylas.

[@naelarribet7992]

What about a hairless draft?

[@leonardo9259]

Only singed and lee sin

[@badaap69]

Excited for this

[@Playthrough_Pulse]

I think you guys are going to find the best version of league so far this year. Keep up the good work.

[@TiaguinhoMu]

Funny thing that baseline requirement to play Ranked games since forever, has been to have 20 champions on your pool. And here we are asking pros to have "at least" 14. The way we have been playing the game is twisting so much of the OG stuff

[@atrece175]

Nice Short Phreak

[@DiVaioLoLGameplay]

Can you also make a video about how Riot arrived at Gacha system and removing chests + mythic essence earns?

[@GeekOfArabia]

Given Phreak is on the live balance team, which is the actual gameplay portion of LoL, he probably wasn't in those conversations

[@DiVaioLoLGameplay]

@@GeekOfArabia I know , but he is the only one who honest with the community all these years

[@enterBeastmode1]

@phreak Stoked for fearless draft. However, I think it is sufficient to just have a ban phase in the first round of the series. Given that 10 champs are auto-banned proceeding to the next round, that’s already a huge chunk. I would even probably suggest to have default banning thru picks, and remove the active banning phase. Basically means that by picking a champ to play, you already have to consider that you also are actively banning it yourself, for the whole series. Having the fearless concept and a banning phase feels redundant.

[@dABiGfATLol]

is fearless = champs that are PLAYED cant be replayed but banned champs are still available?

[@arthurmarshall6825]

Yes, unless they are ban again.

[@MaschMa]

I am so hyped for it

[@blarblablarblar]

I want someone to tally the number of times Phreak mentions shaco unprompted

[@daymianhogue1634]

Honestly love fearless, but also wish Esports decided to merge in some of your other suggestions: Like the anti-flex pick thing: each team has to assign a role to each champion/player, and then cannot change it for an entire split/tournament. And the automated champion removal under certain conditions like maybe a champion hits 80% presence in all game ones? Theyre disabled for either the rest of the patch or the rest of the tournament. I feel like esports could use far more variety; it should either be Blind Pick, and proplay becomes a field of mechanical excellence with every player being absolutely mastered at their champion... or it should be an very stark opposite where pros are expected to have champion oceans showing how diverse and strategic the esport can be.

[@AbyssArray]

We get to see players on T1 flex the entire champion roster into mid and support

[@Vermiton]

exciting stuff

[@Ic-gv2eo]

Did he post and take down a patch rundown for the new season or am I getting Mandela effected rn

[@fablesenpai8609]

My only thing about shorter bans is that teams are going just come in with a pre zcripted by there coach told them to do before hand based on team

[@ggwp6929]

I think this would be so much better to some champions who often get nerf due to pro plays. Literally they are just ok in ranks. For example, aphelios, kalista, raze, azir. Kinda unfair tho. ( I agree these champions may also get nerf from high elo but definitely not outstanding ones that break up the balance

[@SyaniteL0L]

So I'm just trying to understand, 1. Is there still a game 1 ban phase? 2. If so, there are 10 champions banned and 10 champions picked, does this mean that game 2 has 20 champions banned? game 3, 30 champions banned?

[@hen4698]

can’t wait for start of season thoughts. has anyone gotten the ga version of new neutral, idk how to spell it. i’m not high elo rn, have like 20 games so far, have not seen ga buff a single time yet

[@dealbreakerc]

Yep, got it in my last ranked game this evening. We got it and our jungle and me (support) ran straight to the baron (we had killed atakan in bot) to ward. We got picked by three of them and we went 1 for 2 and chunked the two that survived. Our teammates had backed and then went to baron while we were respawning and got a pick on the opponents two who hadn't been involved in killing me and our jungle. Because we respawned so quick, we then had all 5 of our team up for the baron and their last two only respawned as we were finishing of baron. Not how we wanted it to go I'm sure, but it worked out

[@Ensyd]

Look at all of the negative reasons the swap to Fearless was made when the reasoning was always better is because it’s more fun to see more characters which makes for more diverse and exciting games. How can the devs complain about toxicity when it’s so inherent to their behavior they can’t even see it?