Phrozen Sonic Mega 8KS + wash & cure stations [HONEST REVIEW]

[@Kudakeys]

That wash station is a beast, I wonder what people would think if I went to Poundland and brought 25L of IPA to the checkout 😂

[@vogman]

Maybe you can get bulk discount 😂🤣😂

[@ikedosch9443]

Great video as always! Thank you VOG!

[@vogman]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MrNBridger]

Excellent review, I just recently got the original Mega 8K because of the missing 10cm of build height and love it.

[@vogman]

Big isn't it 😁😁😁😁😁

[@chuffinghell-UK]

@@vogmanas the actress said to the Bishop

[@kapikoprinted]

Great review! It helped reassure me to stick with Anycubic and wait for their next large format printer with better specs, features, and a lower price!

[@sreed3819]

Great video!

[@vogman]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@sasca854]

Thanks!

[@vogman]

Thank you very much. You're very generous. 😁😁😁 I hope you enjoy my look at the 8KS speed printing results here kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZTSnZawaJaFmLM

[@kuntibolox]

Can a 90⁰ elbow be fitted in place of the straight tap to bring it closer to the printer point it downwards?

[@markmorgan8378]

Man would need a whole other room for that machine. #LLVM

[@vogman]

This is the kind of printer that makes you say, "I really want one." Then when it arrives you say, "I want a bigger house." You could put it in your shed... or you could put your shed inside it 😁😁😁

[@uvz6539r]

cool.... thats a big boy Honestly, with the heater thingy, I would simple do like elegoo with their filters. one port for filter, another for heater. however a heated vat would be optimal... but hey...

[@vogman]

Uniformation are the only ones I'm aware of that think in terms of re-using naturally generated heat. As you say, in theory it's possible... it's a shame companies aren't doing it.

[@ClayMann]

I really no longer care how good a printer is, if it doesn't have a heater, I'm not interested. While I have made my own solution thanks to Vogmans ideas on a small temperature controlled heater (That's a great video btw!) I have a 50watt heater that sits inside a 3D printing tent about twice the size of the printer and can keep all my resin bottles in there too and it keeps it all 25c printing in a shed in the UK when its literally freezing outside. So I solved the problem but its ugly, bulky in my tiny shed and given how little printer manufacturers need to put into heating the VAT, its insane to me that isn't a feature on all mid priced machines this year.

[@vogman]

I don't get it. These companies produce resins that clearly state a recommended temperature which, for a lot of the world, happens rarely if ever. So why haven't they made more use of the printers own heat? Why haven't they manufactured after market heaters? It's strange. Frankly I have zero use for a resin pump. But a heater, I can't do without!

[@gorzany]

Thanks for the review! I'm considering this printer.. could you please note the max height and depth measures of this printer when the cover is open? I could find it in the specs

[@arjunb1499]

sir, I have been following u for a few months your review was great and detailed...I have a doubt I looking for a high-speed cam machine with accuracy and I came across mars4dlp-70mm/hr and mar 9k ultra (mono lcd) up to 130mm/hr...I read in some articles that DLP is very high speed compared to LCD ..sir can u tell which printer is good for high-speed output?? please reply me sir

[@goldkrs5683]

Hello 👋 can you tell me, which one of those 3d printers is the best for jewelry making. 🙏

[@markburton5292]

if it had two vents you could cycle the air. one being a cold air exhaust and the other being a warm air inlet sorta like a hair dryer

[@vogman]

Good thinking.

[@jasoncombs3232]

I'm waiting for Elegoos Jupiter upgrade. Really need that heated vat.

[@vogman]

Hmmm... I'm still dubious of the Jupiter. It appeared upon first review that it was a printer developed with "upgrades" in mind. I've yet to be convinced that's the case... but I genuinely hope it is 😁

[@TheHelicapt]

Can you tell me the total distance from front to back when cover is open ?

[@3dtechnologies153]

I don't know about faster printing but acf seems to get me fewer failed prints on my anycubic m5s compared to my epax printers..

[@vogman]

That's good to hear 😁

[@stevesloan6775]

I’m glad you have affiliate links. It’s a real shame it doesn’t have the 40cm hight.

[@vogman]

Yes... cost savings taken too far I think.

[@adurbe]

The wash station feels like it really needs a bit more innovation. You could make the tap so at the very least it flips up out the way. But im also thinking that they are missing a trick in that the position of the tap will drain all the IPA but not the sediment that will settle at the bottom which will be left behind..

[@vogman]

Yes, that tap sticks out too far and on a workbench could easily be knocked. I also think there's plenty of room to alter the positioning. It's a big machine... that alone should make it EASIER to move things around.

[@Gormadt]

I think a beveled bottom that funnels everything to a spout that could attach to the front and detach when not needed would have been better. Of course the impellers would need to be placed differently if they beveled the bottom. So having them sticking up from the bottom (to be flat above the bevel), on the beveled side walls, or having them near the bottom but on the sides would have been a good call as well. The wash station seems like more of a quick design to shove out with the larger printer and cure station compared to the others that look like they have a lot of design work that's gone into them. And of course for all of them, putting the dang power switch on the front. Yeah they'll need to have a separate spot for the cable to plug in but it's not difficult to route wires for a power switch, especially for a large company that's already designing a printer.

[@vogman]

I was thinking of a detachable hose... maybe instead of a tap, a flush "coin slot" shut off valve.

[@markburton5292]

@@vogman maybe a siphon tube built in like what is used for transferring brewed beverages?

[@TryptychUK]

@@vogman They could at least put in a 90° bend in it.

[@Protocol-X]

It is a pity they still are not making heated cure chambers. There are a million curing systems, but there is no selling point to any of them anymore. So many non-standard resins anymore have specific curing temps, but unless you want to pay thousands, we are still stuck with diy.

[@catnamestaken]

Coolcool. Highly doubting if I should buy this as it is quite expensive still, also I'm afraid that after I buy it they come up with a mega 12k

[@vogman]

That's always the risk with 3D printers. The moment you buy, an upgrade arrives 🤣😂🤣

[@southerndime333]

what a guy.

[@vogman]

Who? 😁😁😁

[@demonsorrow536]

I want it i just dont know about the slicer

[@vogman]

Sorry I didn't say in the video... there's no restrictions I'm aware of which mean any slicer that wishes to can support it. Certainly Lychee, ChiTuBox and Voxel Dance do already 😁

[@jod3000]

Interesting looking machine but that price tag is so far out of reach it's a non starter. Great review as always VOG!

[@vogman]

No, it's not cheap. It's a lot cheaper, but still not cheap. But honestly, the sheer size of this printer is NOT for those without a serious purpose in mind. If you print VERY large prints all the time, this is for you. If you print several hundred minis per week, this is for you. If not, then don't bother. There's better options for the casual user 😁😁😁

[@markburton5292]

@@vogman yes verry cool printer. but i don't print that big that often so... however what i wonder is could you put the 12 k upgrade that they have for the mega 8k into it?

[@chuffinghell-UK]

That’s all well and good but what about the most important issue normally covered in your reviews? You didn’t mention the knob size 😂

[@vogman]

Well... I was embarrassed to say really... two... quite small knobs...

[@coinopanimator]

Shame theres no wifi option.

[@zpbeats3938]

At this point, no built in heater=pass

[@GregAtlas]

"They all seem to drag their feet on this issue" It's likely because heaters can be a fire hazard. A hazard they probably don't want to risk liability over if they can't provide a quality and durable product. Possibly due to licensing as well. What's even dumber than not producing a heater is how their resin pump is tied to their software in the Mega 8KS instead of stand alone so you can't use it on the old system or other printers.

[@vogman]

I agree with you Greg. No doubt there's lots of red tape and safety regs to navigate, and that's daunting and expensive. Yet these same companies produce FDM printers that melt plastic at over 200C. In comparison, heating a chamber to 30C should be child's play 😁😁😁

[@GregAtlas]

@@vogman I agree it should be child's play. Still probably regulatory stuff that doesn't affect normal printer heating methods (yet).

[@Return_To_Sender]

​@@GregAtlasexcept gktwo gas one. Soooo.... There goes that theory

[@TryptychUK]

I feel it's a bit crap to have what is effectively a semi-pro machine at that price not have Wi-Fi/LAN as standard. I get the impression with all these Chinese manufacturers that they are all following each other's tails and nobody is capable of any original thought. As I can get an Arduino dual Wi-Fi/Bluetooth controller board for under a tenner, there is simply no excuse.

[@vogman]

They are all quite similar, but one really stood out to me and that was Uniformation. They at least are thinking differently kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5aUaYFqfNeAjLs 😁

[@keal4825]

The print quality is really bad compared to mighty 8k

[@vogman]

Different machines for different uses. The Mighty has a resolution of 28µm vs 43µm on the Mega. That is a quality difference that is easily discernible to the eye. That's why I felt Phrozen made a mistake in not including a 12K screen. It still wouldn't have bettered the Mighty, but it would have narrowed the gap 😁

[@keal4825]

@@vogman Yeah, i like speed of Mega 8ks and Size , but i will wait Mega 12K , haha, thank you sir Vogman😍