Мне седьмой десяток, трудовой стаж более 45 лет. Во истину, я всю жизнь работал, обрабатывая металл последние, без малого двадцать лет, работаю на авиа заводе (моторостроительном) инструментальщиком станочником, изготавливаю полный ассортимент режущего инструмента. То есть опыт работы с металлом, вся жизнь. Но смотрю это видео, и зрелище просто завораживает, происходящее смахивает на колдовство. Это магия, каких нибудь 20 - 30 лет назад, такое и представить нельзя было. Абсурд заключается в том, что в общей массе человеческая раса тупеет, а робото-техника стремительно развивается. Наблюдаю некий пугающий дессонанс. Восстание машин может оказаться не вымыслом а пророчеством.....
@daniellange1912 Жыл бұрын
ok guys..i am working with different CNC mills. from mahos of the 90s to Hermle of the 2015 and 5 axis of the newest generation... the speed with that the table is turning is a way too fast imo. why u are manipulating the video when the original speed is quite impressive enough . nowadays the speed isn´t the impressive stuff.. high end tools and stable machines are often standard.. try to craft a prototype with accurancy of less than 0.01 mm with the first try and that speed .. that is impressive
@MineProful Жыл бұрын
Watch Titans of CNC Videos
@daniellange1912 Жыл бұрын
@@MineProful i know those videos..nice to watch but a lot of show as well
@idraugr5725 Жыл бұрын
A lot of animosity towards those guys is seems. Have you machined titanium and inconel?
@daniellange1912 Жыл бұрын
@idraugr5725 yup..titan not as much as inconel ..no animosity..I am just not a big fan of videos that show standard manufacturing processes and do like that is the Supa mega epic roxxor stuff .. that is what I mean by saying "a lot of show"
@chuchonchuchon7640 Жыл бұрын
@Daniel Lange completely agree about Titans of CNC Makes me lol when they bring out their fancy tork wrenches for a set screw lol
@234dilligaf5 жыл бұрын
One of the most incredible inventions of all time.
@JF323045 жыл бұрын
It's still amazes me how strong end mills are!! Just amazing!
@georgepapadimitriou49654 жыл бұрын
this is aluminum dont get amazed LOL
@mennomeilink46603 жыл бұрын
@@georgepapadimitriou4965 still pretty fast machining
@jimmywalles13 жыл бұрын
@@mennomeilink4660 still pretty fake video... or do they all talk that fast over there
@trxtech30102 жыл бұрын
Not a "Mill" it's a CNC Machine
@JF323042 жыл бұрын
@@trxtech3010 the CNC machine is nothing if the tool is junk. The strength of end mills amazes me...
@superjon785 жыл бұрын
I would love to know more about the complete engine that the block being made in the first section is for!
@katralavinodkumar68515 жыл бұрын
First section is made by casting process bro
@wolframstrempfer1494 жыл бұрын
It's solely a demo part. See here.: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mamYcoyfrrV5nqs
@superjon784 жыл бұрын
Wolfram Strempfer - that’s a bummer. There’s certainly an opportunity missed.
@user-gb8nf8iv5t2 жыл бұрын
Это видео конечно чисто для демонстрации станка. Наяву же он будет раза в 2 как минимум медленнее. Во первых на таких скоростях убьешь станок быстро, ресурс инструмента конечно же уменьшится. ну и конечно же взяли бы не дюраль, а сталь типа х12мф и т.д., которую у нас в основном и обрабатывают и показали скорость обработки. Я сам на ЧПУ уже лет 20 и по опыту скажу что это чисто паказуха.
@SshAleksandr Жыл бұрын
Здесь станок лохматого года выпуска только для сравнения вставили. Но смысла этой вставки я не понял.
@derekb47313 ай бұрын
Amazing to watch, just wondering how quickly we have developed this technology, we've progressed so far in so little time
@HepauDK5 жыл бұрын
9:21 I am pretty shure that is NOT a CNC machine...
@mrono19105 жыл бұрын
Henrik Paulsen no thats a lathe...
@HepauDK5 жыл бұрын
@@mrono1910 I shoul know. I apprenticed for 3 years as a fitter, a great deal of that time was spent at a lathe similar to the one in the video. :P
@user-hs2hd7wp9g5 жыл бұрын
That's a top of the line 5 axis CNC machine
@suicideris5 жыл бұрын
CNC - Computer Numerical Control. Pretty much any machine can be a CNC. CNC router, CNC mill, CNC plasma, CNC grinder, CNC pick and place, CNC water jet, CNC wire cut EDM, CNC LATHE and so on.... Most of them can be 2, 3, 4, 5 axis....
@HepauDK5 жыл бұрын
@@suicideris The machine in the video however, has no computerized controls whatsoever.
@clgusa236898 ай бұрын
That conveyor belt system was like watching a race where everyone's a winner. Absolutely fascinating and oddly soothing.
@user-pq2nd6tm5k5 жыл бұрын
А Где Мы со своими станками по металлообработке??? В Далёком прошлом...🗿🛐💯
@ActiveAtom5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see such machinery in action hard turning is what we strive to be good at. We liked what looked to be the Delrin if not another poly chem product material gear cutting as well, thank you for sharing. Lance & Patrick.
@shahidwani10032 жыл бұрын
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@Pidalin Жыл бұрын
It's already here - machines create machines!!!!! 😀 11:51 - lathe combined with another 5+ axis CNC center, that's totaly sick
@therealthreadkilla3 жыл бұрын
50 seconds was it for me. It's cutting aluminum which for machining is one step above butter.
@tomastoth6375 жыл бұрын
9:21 Grundlagen des konventionelles drehen :DDD
@waynechrisco11635 жыл бұрын
I've seen farm-raised pigs, but never have I seen Factory raised pigs
@trexmidnite5 жыл бұрын
The machines also carved out the sound to make the soundtracks you heard! That is one step ahead..
@poligon333 Жыл бұрын
These machines are badass, at work we have only 3 axis CNCs. I wish the company bought one large 5 axis CNC. It would save us so much time.
@Pidalin Жыл бұрын
Push them to buy that, they will save a lot of money after some time and products will be better. We also had only 3 axis in furniture company and you are constantly doing some things in more steps, you have to remove it and put it there again other side up or something, it's very annoying, complicated and it makes training of new workers really hard. You have to constantly switching tools because some tools can work only on this side and other tool on another side.....it's impossible to train new people when it's that complicated, everyone will immediately crash it. We would be totaly screwed now without new 5axis machines because in last 5 years, they created so many new products where we really need 5 axis machine. But with 5 axis, there are new problems, like spindle is really big and you have to be really careful to not hit something with that, especially when you are using beams+suckers system which we have for wood working. In last few years, things started getting better, there are no people who could od that work on work market, so company has no other option than to invest to technology, buy better tools etc...to make it faster and better. Some old bosses went finally to pension and finally we can have what we really need. We forced our owner to buy a second 5 axis machine during covid when people were constantly ill and many people ended (many foreign workers returned home), so we really needed second 5 axis machine and I was surprised that our owner just bought that and it was not a big problem. We have a new manager in last years and he is not that stupid as our older bosses, he knows that we just need it, so who cares that it cost 200 000 eur, we just need it. The point of CNC is that you program that, put material there and it will make whole product in one step, when you have to manualy change tools and turn product manualy several times, it lacks the point of CNC machine and your bosses and owner should understand it. You can do it whole manualy then and it can be easeier than do it on CNC like that.
@vasyapupkin38235 жыл бұрын
Какой же пиздатый люминь или дюраль для таких демонстраций...
@NiNjAjOjO124 жыл бұрын
Amazing machines.Btw song name? 10:22
@skipd9164 Жыл бұрын
I was apart of the transformation generation of machinist. Worked in old manual factories then first generation CNC factories. CNC machines that monitored toolwear and inspection process. Watched a large military contractor close factories because unions would not except changes. Seen and predicted vacant lots.
@davidmarino94695 жыл бұрын
I've machined that fast. Its the cutting tools that is making the difference
@user-sk9hl7si7l5 жыл бұрын
how much kW those cnc eat up ?
@Skeez0022 жыл бұрын
As a machinist this is an art. Having a perfect cycle time with every rapid in the right spot just machine gunning chips. It's a beautiful thing(still makes my stomach turn seeing that shit run dry, I understand it's for the vid though)
@paulgallagher2937 Жыл бұрын
I was in CNC machining for more than 30 years. Yes its very cool to see this. Most people don't realize this took weeks or months of engineering work to perfect that machining sequence. Of course in the real world, its never that fast, or you would spend more money on cutting tools than the value of the parts. But can come close to this.
@Pidalin Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, on new CNC machines it's more and more hard to program that because you have no actual control over that, you have to draw it in some stupid cad-like software and then click and add some milling with very limited possibilities. My oldschool G code programs on older machine are perfectly optimized, but on new machine, it's just doing something and very often it would be to complicated to change it. But on other hand, new machine can at least change tools while riding in X axis, so at least something, that can make a difference, I would love to have this feature on older machine, but maintenenace person said that it would be to complicated to add such feature and they are not able to do that, producer of that machine would have to completely reprogram that and they won't do that for machine which is 8 years old.
@Pidalin Жыл бұрын
@@paulgallagher2937 Weeks or months? Some my programs took literally years to make it finally perfect. 😀 Sometimes you are doing it somehow and 1 year later you have genius idea and you are surprised why you didn't find out that earlier. 😀 I work only with wood, most of programs are not really complicated, but when you work with metal and to make one part can take even hours, I can't imagine optimazing it, it really has to take months because you need to see that program many many times to see all things which need some improvement during that program. With wood there is another problem, you have to respect wood fibers and if you do some milling in wrong order, product will look really bad. Sometimes it's expected that some milling will pinch out peace of wood and that's why you do it first and then you format final size of that product or something. People think it's simple to program some stupid kitchen table plate, but it's more complicated than they realize and they really don't pay us enough for such responsibility.
@matthewrossilini58083 жыл бұрын
That first machine was hauling ass. Would really like to know what cutters and machine that was. It gave beautiful finishes!
@therealthreadkilla3 жыл бұрын
It's cutting aluminum which for machining is one step above butter.
@tolget46845 жыл бұрын
Simply beautiful. Poetry in motion.
@GSSurry Жыл бұрын
I am wondering where is the heat going? Material expands from heat, how can this be accurate?
@user-ff1sh3ou3u2 жыл бұрын
削るの、楽しそう。でも、鋳物でできないの?
@DodgeandGMkiIIingFurdDaiIy5 жыл бұрын
Aluminum is easy to cut through
@Viper6-MotoVlogger5 жыл бұрын
Incredible machines
@gianpietromigliorini95635 жыл бұрын
Viper6 📳♒️❌
@user-bi7nq4nj7q3 жыл бұрын
lol I call b.s. The ones with voices in them make it obvious some if not all of these are videos played at higher speed
@user-xk2lb2ob8p Жыл бұрын
Впечатление такое что это чисто демонстрационные образцы -- для рекламы возможностей оборудования.
@quweefs5 жыл бұрын
Should have included the Makino mag ex 3. That thing can crank out 37,000 rpm and 700 ipm.
@xz36933 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah. Makino is awesome. I worked at a place that was able to run for 5 days straight, by itself, 24hrs/d, from a pallet stacker that fed two machines. Amazing.
@Anthony-uz5tj2 жыл бұрын
@@xz3693 i cant walk away from my machine for 10 mins without shit breaking
@MagnetOnlyMotors5 жыл бұрын
12:50 must have made from pig iron!
@Xezma2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to seen the beginning of that program
@veranet993 жыл бұрын
So they speed up video playback and everybody creams their jeans.
@MagnetOnlyMotors5 жыл бұрын
9:40 hope the machining is better than than masonry work behind.
@aaronhobart47635 жыл бұрын
MagnetOnlyMotors haha what they do lay the bricks the wrong way?
@The1robjones5 жыл бұрын
its aluminum..very easy and fast to machine. 5 axis machining is neat to watch though
@aK47r05 жыл бұрын
This is beyond fast in my opinion.
@wingmanalive5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching woodworking tools do their cutting but this just takes it to another level. CNC machines are pure sex to a machinist, or anyone for that matter. My father was a foreman in a tool company back in the 70's called Elliot in Jeanette PA. He told me stories back then that blew my mind and I can only imagine the possibilities today. His company worked with back then state of the art equipment and for fun they used to duel with a Japanese company. They would send items back and forth just to out do each other for the sport of it. Mind you this was back 40+ years ago. My Father's company sent their rival a metal tube no wider than a human hair. I can't imagine a need for such a thing but they wanted to prove it could be done. Weeks later the Japanese machine company sent the same tube back.......tapped. Again, this was 4 decades ago. Today? Today they could probably line that same tube with micro fiber optics for pennies a mile.
@innominatum99065 жыл бұрын
A threaded 0.03mm diameter tube? I'm sure your father and his friends made some neat tools and shit, but that one is stretching it a bit far ;)
@wingmanalive5 жыл бұрын
@@innominatum9906 Lol well it was my Father's story, NOT mine. I think he meant it was drilled and tapped not on its' length but its' side. Either way it was an awesome display for the time.
@wingmanalive5 жыл бұрын
@@PGspeed88 Well today they have micro machines making micro machines. Nano technology is real.I'm sure you've heard an average calculator today has more computing power than what got the Apollo missions to the moon. Those kind of things I enjoy learning about.
@Pidalin Жыл бұрын
I also work on woodworking CNCs and I can't imagine to program these metal parts, It's totaly enough for me to program our stuff, I would probably jump under train if they wanted from me to program some airplane engine or something. 😀
Nice. But regarding the 1st piece of material: i've been working on an old deckel maho 60 (manufactured in 2002 i belive) and one day the manager comes and says we have an urgent task. So i pushed the "old fart" to it's limits(12k rpm and 4200 vf with 4 mm increment on z axis) on a hard material(don't know the denominations it was what we call silver-steel-carbon) That old machine rocked!! Altough the end mills were useless after that program😁😁 Nice video!!👍
@ledgendsrus Жыл бұрын
How much rpm effect the force that’s applied to the cutting tool?
@tomstuff4605 жыл бұрын
There are CNC machines but they're not super fast CNC machine. 1 depending on the material you're cutting. 2 material and the tools get too hot. 3 there's no coolant . Plus I can hear the high-speed voices in the background . Trust me I know I work in a company that uses CNC lathe and Mills.
@jeepmanxj5 жыл бұрын
You don't or you would know you are talking out your ass. None of this is sped up, its quite realistic and seen in shops everywhere day to day. I've not been in a shop in the last 15 years that uses coolant while milling. Coolant causes fracturing of inserts from the extreme changes in temperatures from cutting to not cutting. Almost everywhere uses air. I can mill on a press table for 15 hours and its still not hot.
@SINARIS_YTB Жыл бұрын
It's the V4 Engine from ?
@tungstenvideos1235 жыл бұрын
i think someone used G00 instead of G01 :D
@sheikhtassavurahmed445 жыл бұрын
ya I think so too 🤔
@mira2384 жыл бұрын
:D
@sudhirpatel76205 жыл бұрын
No coolant. What type of end mills are guys using? Japanese.
@LordOfNihil3 жыл бұрын
look at that thing devour metal, beautiful.
@kkkk-mv9ck5 жыл бұрын
厲害的是 刀具 刀具不夠硬 鋒利 一加工 就斷了
@travispovey62255 жыл бұрын
It says lathe. Pretty sure it’s a 5 axis vmc
@Reddiablo11115 жыл бұрын
How many thou are you taking off per pass? That looks like a block of aluminum, so I'll guess 35 thou per pass? Maybe more
@danjal075 жыл бұрын
yea, thats not a lathe, its a 5axis mill running a feedmill... I was running a machine like that 10 years ago in a mold shop....
@cookesam65 жыл бұрын
Sure that first one is amulinium no?
@Chris-wf2lr Жыл бұрын
Dudes voice was all speeded up. Thought the CNC machines were really this fast
@pernykvist3442 Жыл бұрын
It make steel look like butter with reflection
@mealex3035 жыл бұрын
That first 5 axis bed is a work of art instant repeatable precision wow
@StealRidePark5 жыл бұрын
overall an amazing machine im espescially impressed by how well it blends the bores with just an end mill. The precision and speed is just insane indefinately.
@BenjaminGoose Жыл бұрын
"a work of art instant repeatable precision " a what now
@catfish243 жыл бұрын
It had to be a genius that invented and made this machine.
@CapnBob20105 жыл бұрын
Lathe, huh? You sure know your way around a machine shop.
@leoaksil40855 жыл бұрын
and milling.
@Drache8325 жыл бұрын
it even says milling in the title....
@oneillam19905 жыл бұрын
yes there were multiple lathes
@CapnBob20105 жыл бұрын
I understand; I was just rattling your cage. ;-). Happy New Year!
@brianscott60585 жыл бұрын
Looks like a mill to me
@phils46345 жыл бұрын
Pretty amazing stuff, though the capital (and consumables) cost places this far beyond "hobbyist level" :-D
@chrisCKDE5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, most machines at my workplace range from 500k - 2mil.
@CalvinEdmonson5 жыл бұрын
I can do all that on a manual mill in 2 months +/- 1 month. ; ]
@toddsecor2885 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@KippoHound5 жыл бұрын
So fuckin true tho! 😂
@mohdnorshahril30895 жыл бұрын
2 week for me
@Oclb5 жыл бұрын
Nice tolerance you got😔 lead man gave me a tolerance of +0, -1. And he holds me to it
@Birb_of_Judge Жыл бұрын
I wanna see you make that pig on a manual mashine 😂😂
@perturb77445 жыл бұрын
Fast forward ... you can hear it at 6:35
@tylerwickwire15225 жыл бұрын
So SATISFYING!!! I LOVE IT!
@user-hd1ow8pg4i Жыл бұрын
40х пусть попробуют на таких режимах резать, станок развалится)) А то алюминиевый пластилин показывают.
@jeffsiegwart Жыл бұрын
Nice demo.
@djdead42425 жыл бұрын
В начале какая скорасть обработки?
@snoopdog685 жыл бұрын
How much for the metal pig? I want one.
@warmmacshine5 жыл бұрын
How do you metals without coolant? Do you ever get metal binding to the tool? Or are all the endmills using inserts?
@avenged31185 жыл бұрын
these are probably machines at an expo, showing off what they can do. with coolant it would be kinda difficult to see
@chrisCKDE5 жыл бұрын
there are so many factors that you need to meet to do that kind of stuff, ranging from cutting speed to forward movement sped (?) (sry I only know the German words) to heat tolerance of the tool and wear rate of the tool. most of the new tools are high-quality machining tool steel (or something like that) or carbide elements.
@jamesjarmon73835 жыл бұрын
Aluminum is so soft, you dont need coolant. Brass, cast iron, and titanium are also milled dry. Coolant does give you a better finish on most metals though.
@Tischlerimkopf5 жыл бұрын
Because of the speed, the Chips are already way gone before they can bind to the cutter, thats why you dont need "cooland" they are blown away by the Air hose, that gives a little Bit Advantage, and helps to get the Chips Out
@gregzielke91874 жыл бұрын
What machine is using the minimaster plus at the 7:27 mark?
@khamvongxay15385 жыл бұрын
It looks so fast for me. I have been working a machinist for 34yrs . Most all the time I run Matsuura ,Hass, and Mori seiki with fanuk control, so I have more time to check the parts 100% . if I scrapped 2 or 3 a month they might be unhappy or ....... the job I do call out .ooo1-.0005 tolerances Specially boring holes.
@lifewithfelipe72885 жыл бұрын
kham vongxay damm 34yrs? And I just barely getting started on training next week by Tuesday
@juniorjohnson95095 жыл бұрын
These speeds listed are not all that great nowadays, when you look at the latest high-speed machines that run at 30K rpm and feed rates around 1000 IPM.
@mariusfek197610 ай бұрын
Ist das 5 axen Maschine?
@billfry87795 жыл бұрын
Yeah that speed is awesome, until that end mill seizes for no reason and knocks that head out of alignment. :) Good shit.
@jimmywalles13 жыл бұрын
ye the speed that the people talk in the background is awesome aswell... i wish i could speak that fast
@andreaspetersson358 Жыл бұрын
Maybe dont fast forward the clips??
@user-mv6gn6pn1p5 жыл бұрын
i want to know where the machin made it used
@MagnetOnlyMotors5 жыл бұрын
11:30 why not just by a tow ball?
@bestamerica5 жыл бұрын
' drilling / cutting on the aluminum is a so easily with machine... hard steel is a so hard with a machine
@yoopersen5 жыл бұрын
bestamerica depends on what you consider hard
@flyingdutchmen34215 жыл бұрын
How many material wasted
@LegendOfBozz2 жыл бұрын
But this is Aluminium, make Steel !!!
@BekaK5 жыл бұрын
Where are these machines sold? link please?
@tobikruse115 жыл бұрын
Das in 1080p wäre perfekt
@ashkanrostay5545 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed. that was perfect
@earlvanfleet35015 жыл бұрын
I would put a Makino ahead as far as EVERYTHING goes :-)
@BurkeCN745 жыл бұрын
It took me 2 hours in my high school machine shop to figure out how to properly cut threads on a pipe. I hang my head in shame.
@christopherdynak25475 жыл бұрын
We all start at the bottom. You don't jump to the top. You climb to the top. You'll get there.
@videoburg19505 жыл бұрын
Why is no cooling liquide needed? 🤔
@furstenberg4everprost9305 жыл бұрын
The Heat is gone by de milling chips
@honzakmenz70645 жыл бұрын
Because they are mostly using tungsten carbide which is not effected by heat
@EngineerPEretired5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Thanks for uploading and sharing. 10:38 multi timed! PRICELESS -- Plus at 12:38! Awe Amazing! (just needed a tail - just saying) ---
@scott26035 жыл бұрын
Obviously sped up in places. Its just ally and mild steel. Free cutting material. Try running at that speed on inconell.
@JackJanovec5 жыл бұрын
Ever thought that mild steel is a little more practical than inconel? Moron
@CGoody56425 жыл бұрын
@@JackJanovec completely dependent on the circumstances.
@ricklivingston37745 жыл бұрын
Inconel 625 or 750?
@nathanenfinger95595 жыл бұрын
This for an engine?
@HowToDoAnything7775 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@holarndius3 жыл бұрын
Am i the only person who thinks these machines waste a TON of material? i mean look at all that wasted metal.
@jys29925 жыл бұрын
Loving Hermle😍
@god_of_bread Жыл бұрын
God, how much metal goes nowhere .. but I have to admit that it's beautiful
@sturmifan Жыл бұрын
you know that metal is being caught and sold to a resmelter to make something else right?
@rmkensington Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it all gets thrown away genius
@just86185 жыл бұрын
А что за станок на 6:12(eng:what for the machine at 6:12 )
@obe220993 жыл бұрын
Someone invent time machines so we can kidnap metal workers from the past and force them to make reactions to this.
@Amy-eq9no5 жыл бұрын
Is it metal Na??
@aar0nhickman5 жыл бұрын
Wow who ever is controlling this machine with such accuracy and precision must be really experienced. They could have honestly told me a computer was doing this and I would have believed them, this person has some real talent.
@nauseumster5 жыл бұрын
I think he is using an Xbox One controller, wired to a steam engine drive, much faster than just trying to do it by hand.
@chrischang77015 жыл бұрын
The parts which machines are done on a computer... They use MasterCAM, its a program used machine these parts which tells the machine where to go and what specifications the parts need for example tolerances, depth of cut, feedrate etc.
@aar0nhickman5 жыл бұрын
Chris Chang r/woosh
@khalisaputri50285 жыл бұрын
for what machine, please tell me
@xDjordjeMx5 жыл бұрын
What's the time needed to program the first part from this video?
@antonsjoberg5 жыл бұрын
Djordje Manojlovic they probably use CAM
@kennethdiehl4655 жыл бұрын
Most intricate designs (and production parts) use cad/cam software to write the program, however the programs still need minor tweaking from the programmer/setup person
@KippoHound5 жыл бұрын
how tf do the bit not break.
@vaughanrobinson98945 жыл бұрын
Made from ceramic/ CBN inserts, google it pal
@juniorjohnson95095 жыл бұрын
The cutter load is kept well within it's limit.
@jacksonlefteye3 жыл бұрын
wait i wanted to see the M36 threading
@ProtosCrema5 жыл бұрын
I hate wen in internet they show automatic cnc machine working on alluminium but they don't show when the specialized worker have to intervene on a component in AISI 326Ti or SuperDuplex ... bleah
@selim633893 жыл бұрын
Wtf ist das nicht n bisschen übertrieben vom vorschub her??? Besonderd auchnoch bei metall? (Hab bisher nur kunststoff gefräßt)