Pushing CNC Machining Past Failure | 800 IPM | Kennametal

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6 жыл бұрын

Titan Gilroy tests out the Kennametal Stellram Shell Mill. CNC Machining.
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Пікірлер: 631
@osuna3525
@osuna3525 5 жыл бұрын
(Spindle talking to Aluminium): *Bite the vice, i'm going in dry*
@BrandonBurns1985
@BrandonBurns1985 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@trevorlahti569
@trevorlahti569 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@s3ntin3l60
@s3ntin3l60 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂....how long to come up with this gold?
@beatbox20fmj
@beatbox20fmj 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, top comment.
@hksoundpro
@hksoundpro 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@BPond7
@BPond7 5 жыл бұрын
Haas Spindle: “Why do you hate me?”
@zombieresponder
@zombieresponder 4 жыл бұрын
"Because you're a HAAS."
@maratmasssa6768
@maratmasssa6768 3 жыл бұрын
nothing personal just business
@goldman7267
@goldman7267 3 жыл бұрын
Haas deserves just as much hate as their customers receive from them.
@69deleteSystem32
@69deleteSystem32 17 күн бұрын
@@goldman7267 why though?
@derfacecrafter1869
@derfacecrafter1869 5 жыл бұрын
This coukd be a new sport discipline. CNC Drag Racing
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын
Cool Right:-)
@Assasimon5599
@Assasimon5599 5 жыл бұрын
Haha nice one :D Haas vs DMG :P
@JF32304
@JF32304 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@teewadleyiii4433
@teewadleyiii4433 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao!
@bmxscape
@bmxscape 4 жыл бұрын
that actually sounds like a cool idea, people try to make their machines the fastest and compete for a prize. kinda like those chainsaw competitions where they gotta cut through a log as fast as they can 3 times or whatever, just with metal and big azz cnc machines. ok the guy with the sawzall can come too
@Ghost00117
@Ghost00117 6 жыл бұрын
It's not about how fast you mow. It's how well you mow fast.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta Push it... Relax it... then Kiss It. SpaceX doesn’t complain
@MrEtronic
@MrEtronic 4 жыл бұрын
@@TITANSofCNC just looking out for you here, you might want to delete this . confidentiality agreements and what not.
@AndrewMerts
@AndrewMerts 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrEtronic It's a 2 year old comment. If it was going to be an issue, it's a bit late now.
@ThumbDr
@ThumbDr 3 жыл бұрын
Elisha Robin you’re a moron
@floridaman3026
@floridaman3026 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThumbDr real original
@troyvinyard255
@troyvinyard255 6 жыл бұрын
Eat Easy to push it on aluminium. Show me the boundaries on 300 or 400 series steel. I'm curious.
@prasad123yadav
@prasad123yadav 5 жыл бұрын
300 and 400 series needs some gentle loving by the tool😆😆😆😆. We all know what happens when you try to push the envelope with 300 and 400 series. Tool life goes haywire!!!!.
@gokugohan9000
@gokugohan9000 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna see it on carbide
@Chevydevil
@Chevydevil 4 жыл бұрын
Let's see them cut inconel
@seanoneill1982
@seanoneill1982 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chevydevil incolnel good, but better yet is mars
@fryer05maverick31
@fryer05maverick31 4 жыл бұрын
See it on some D2
@DarcyJCurrey
@DarcyJCurrey 6 жыл бұрын
IPM looks cool. When it comes to roughing, it's MRR (Material Removal Rate) which counts. The customer pays for the finish cut. You make money on the roughing cut!
@kentvandervelden
@kentvandervelden 6 жыл бұрын
That's a great point!
@joshuawentworth7426
@joshuawentworth7426 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. You passed the MRR of the 800 IPM (inches per minute) cut with 1.5 in. WOC (width of cut) all the way back at 450 IPM with the 2.7 in. WOC.
@jayclose1945
@jayclose1945 5 жыл бұрын
Ya make your time roughing, ya take your time finishing:)
@SuicideKang
@SuicideKang 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe true but power milling is hard on your tools and your machine. I can turn an endmill into a ball mill and still finish the job before I’m even aware of it with high speed machining. My parts come out flatter and my walls are straight within tenths. Aaaaaannd I don’t have to tighten the crap out of my delicate part. Power milling has proven to be faster for sure but when that tool breaks, your holder is damaged and that part is scrapped hsm will have put more money in your pocket from said customer. Unless you have a spare tool in the carriage and the part hasn’t moved and verified it hasn’t. A continuously running hsm program will leave you behind and give you over 3 times the tool life.
@SuicideKang
@SuicideKang 5 жыл бұрын
A high speed machining rough cut is practically good enough to pass as a finish cut. Your finish cuts should be even faster because of chip thinning
@eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154
@eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154 6 жыл бұрын
Hey , just a thought , If you back off radial another 1.5" , you could go a bazillion ipm.
@delano62
@delano62 6 жыл бұрын
Very true, And that would prove, ipm isn't always the answer.
@obi-wankenobi9871
@obi-wankenobi9871 6 жыл бұрын
Just what I though.
@jackgal4673
@jackgal4673 6 жыл бұрын
Eiserntors Phantom of the Opera
@sammybobammy891
@sammybobammy891 5 жыл бұрын
METAL REMOVAL RATE. volume over time.
@matthewpigott5568
@matthewpigott5568 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, never once that I have seen does he mention CIH...going fast looks cool. King of roughing ..wonder what he finishes at. Or what is acceptable for tolerance variance.
@steedspeedturbo
@steedspeedturbo 6 жыл бұрын
I use a different approach. I set up my machines to run as many parts as possible. I bought a brand new, gorgeous VF5XT last year and I fill the 60 x 26 travel with parts. this gives me a 9 hour run time with tool reliability. I can run the machine during the day and then get another run in at night. Maybe I could push it harder but as its lights out machining with nobody at the shop I'm happy with a program that is reliable and doesn't break tools.. ever.
@ChefofWar33
@ChefofWar33 4 жыл бұрын
Thats a good approach to alot of small parts, but big parts or ones where you need 4 or 5 ops for completion, it isnt doable.
@fryer05maverick31
@fryer05maverick31 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in business to make money, not the tool supplier money. ( I tell my guys that all the time )
@forloop7713
@forloop7713 4 жыл бұрын
Cool approach, will remember for when I'm finished building my wooden diy cnc
@whywouldyoucareaboutmyname6610
@whywouldyoucareaboutmyname6610 2 жыл бұрын
Here I am 2 weeks into Precision Machining classes and I'm reading OP's comment like "Wasn't one of the first things they said in the safety course and safety tests, to not ever leave a CNC running unattended, and to keep an eye on the entire process"? Lol
@peterdwyer4609
@peterdwyer4609 2 жыл бұрын
Hear that..thats how we do it too
@Apathymiller
@Apathymiller 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta say i was amazed at the surface finish at 700 ipm without coolant. Absolutely amazing.
@rodidy
@rodidy 5 жыл бұрын
The cost study on new inserts, tooling, and machine wear vs. 1 minute saved on cycle time. Marathon vs the sprint.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын
We save way more than 1 min and Crush the competition when it comes to bidding. Rough Hard and then Kiss it... for the Win.
@FredFlintstone21
@FredFlintstone21 5 жыл бұрын
@@TITANSofCNC We rough hard too. Inserts last through alot more parts. Interesting how sometimes you're at 60 hrs for the week, YOU (well me anyways) DONT WANT TO WORK SATURDAY, double the feed rates, get it done, and see ya'all Monday! 😉👍
@e23561
@e23561 3 жыл бұрын
Lol and then there's me who has to run the same part 24/6 for 5 years so this kind of nonsense is idiotic unless I want phone calls at 2 am from a production guy who only knows how to put another tool in and blow it up too. In mass production cycle time is even more important than for the jobshop guys, every single second is counted. Including those you spend flipping the inserts every 3 cuts.
@rodidy
@rodidy 3 жыл бұрын
@@e23561 they completely missed the point I made about machine wear. Trying to normalize apparent machine abuse is a desperate grab at youtube views. @e23561, good point about downtime as well
@jenspetersen5865
@jenspetersen5865 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodidy Is it your experience that tools and machine has substantially more wear PER PART if you run fast vs slow? I would assume that on the spindle ex - it would be a very hard, expensive and time consuming study to make. It seems like a lot of parts are unnessacarily expensive due to slow processes, and as with anything backing 10% off the max. is probably a lot more durable than backing 2% off, but the difference between 50% and 90% is likely miniscule in wear.
@crane550
@crane550 4 жыл бұрын
"Today we are going to ram our beautiful F350 into a concrete well just to see how much these trucks can take..."
@JackS425
@JackS425 3 жыл бұрын
i mean thats whistlin diesels entire channel
@sparkyy0007
@sparkyy0007 5 жыл бұрын
When your chips are thicker than depth of cut...Lol
@Barabbas7798
@Barabbas7798 3 жыл бұрын
For real
@shxpsixcreative4318
@shxpsixcreative4318 5 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel... This is every $10hr, employees wet dream 😅 tear shit up
@bluehandsvideo
@bluehandsvideo 6 жыл бұрын
I'm still pretty much a newb, so I'm curious why the coolant wasn't turned on for the original 2.7" step over.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 6 жыл бұрын
I know my machine pretty well and wanted to run it for as long as possible with no coolant... simply because I wanted to have a clear view on camera of the cutter actually cutting. Just for Camera - Not recommended.
@bluehandsvideo
@bluehandsvideo 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that might be the reason. It's one of the reasons I prefer mist on mine.......but I only have 2hp.....so I'm on a completely different playing fields. lol Thanks for the response!! Thank you for everything you are sharing with the rest of us! Mike
@bluehandsvideo
@bluehandsvideo 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that might be the reason. It's one of the reasons I prefer mist on mine.......but I only have 2hp.....so I'm on a completely different playing fields. lol Thanks for the response!! Thank you for everything you are sharing with the rest of us! Mike
@ATK2112
@ATK2112 6 жыл бұрын
Richie Bhoy yeah but they'd shame themselves by making dumb remarks like that....
@damianbutterworth2434
@damianbutterworth2434 6 жыл бұрын
I run a HASS 5 at work with steel parts and just use coolant when drilling. We just use compressed air when milling. The boss says that the tips we use are designed to be run dry so that`s what we have to do. Don`t really know if it`s right as the place is a bit weird lol.
@jayant_muchandikar
@jayant_muchandikar 5 жыл бұрын
Can yu please tell me whats the best insert i can get to machine cast iron RA VALUE SHOULD BE LESS THEN 3.2
@comictrio
@comictrio 6 жыл бұрын
You didn't show the surface finish after each pass? Also, how well did the inserts hold up under the extreme load?
@LucasFAN2006
@LucasFAN2006 6 жыл бұрын
What about the finished surface at this amazing parameter? Have you documented it?
@DethWshBkr
@DethWshBkr 5 жыл бұрын
So how was the cut on the 500, 600, 700, fpm no coolant runs? As a non-machinist, I'm curious to see how much snipe or chatter there was on the (Y?) axis end of the material. I assume the Z was rough as well. (X?) went through on all but the last pass, so there was nothing to see there. (Not sure if the X was the plate motion, or if the Y was, but I'm assuming X based on the load factor on the screen)
@m1k3d0n1
@m1k3d0n1 6 жыл бұрын
How much effect do you have in your spindle? Sometimes we just hit machine limit before tool limit.
@bigbob1699
@bigbob1699 6 жыл бұрын
Do your machines come with body armor for the operators ?
@esm2020
@esm2020 5 жыл бұрын
Hello.What is Your Best Insert for Monell Welding Interroupted Cut For a Lathe ? THANKS.
@dtiydr
@dtiydr 6 жыл бұрын
I want to see 800 in inconel.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 6 жыл бұрын
Me too... Sparks
@David-xl8zf
@David-xl8zf 5 жыл бұрын
Cermet inserts on a lathe. No problem. Makes up for a nice set of firecrackers.
@stonecraft745
@stonecraft745 5 жыл бұрын
Wow a feedrate
@rileysmith3118
@rileysmith3118 5 жыл бұрын
Just go .100 deep, then back off about .101
@icewaterslim7260
@icewaterslim7260 3 жыл бұрын
I always wanted somebody to sneak into WESTEC with some Inconel and swap the leadloy out for it in somebody's demo.
@swikocki
@swikocki 6 жыл бұрын
Nice More positive inserts play a massive difference in spindle load also. Can often increase cutting date this way and also reduce load.
@brandonhuskey9153
@brandonhuskey9153 6 жыл бұрын
Are you keeping your chip load constant every pass?
@nekd11
@nekd11 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Just wanted to know if you changed the inserts for every pass?
@taxalterror
@taxalterror 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Am so glad I have finished work, I had to work on VF3 and VF6,since 1992. plus old M/C in which I prefer . Have fun, I used to program and operate, they always wanted more..UK England,
@sierrabravo7368
@sierrabravo7368 2 жыл бұрын
but I could make the machine work faster by increasing the depth of cut so what do I do make it machine slower with a deeper cut or make the machine work faster? or some combination of the 2?
@sinformant
@sinformant 6 жыл бұрын
A couple questions, what grade was the aluminum, and did you step up the spindle speed when every increase of feed rate, or did you run the spindle speed the same rpm for every test?
@delano62
@delano62 6 жыл бұрын
6061 is what he said at the end.
@horizontaljumper1991
@horizontaljumper1991 6 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! Would love to see a comparison of the finishes for each cut too.
@juliogalindo5227
@juliogalindo5227 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your effort to teach. Please let me understand better about the "sweet spot point" This point is between 80'to 100% of spindel load?
@GRTLRS
@GRTLRS 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool test. 162 in³/min @ 600ipm is more than I expected it would do. Those Stellram cutters are very nice. Do you know how low the rpms dropped on that 600ipm pass? When can we expect a test in steel? :)
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 6 жыл бұрын
I am going to start testing a lot of tools in different materials and machines. This will be a regular feature : Tools of Domination.
@cecilkellyjr
@cecilkellyjr 6 жыл бұрын
Yes we want to see you break shit!!
@prasaddesai9151
@prasaddesai9151 4 жыл бұрын
Sir , can you please suggest me the best but economical 100mm Dia milling cutter with insert specifications for Aluminium alloy having 10% of silicon...I'm waiting for your reply, thank you Currently I'm using SDHT04
@maxsmith2320
@maxsmith2320 5 жыл бұрын
very nice tutorials, i watch almost all of them
@jeremypryor1665
@jeremypryor1665 6 жыл бұрын
What 5 axis rotary model is that?
@junoguten
@junoguten 6 жыл бұрын
You're positive the sudden large load and smoke isn't from the tool rubbing behind/after each insert?
@randyhaight7202
@randyhaight7202 5 жыл бұрын
Are you really gaining ground though? Pushing to 800 is great, but if you're reducing your radial to do it, is it worth it? Especially considering wear on the machine? Great video though, thanks.
@ChefofWar33
@ChefofWar33 4 жыл бұрын
They real machinists calculate their Material Removal Rate vs their chip load.
@wilkoslavakia
@wilkoslavakia 6 жыл бұрын
Man that was smoking, a good job good results and good to see Stuart predicted correctly the outcome at them settings :)
@coreyshoultz8123
@coreyshoultz8123 4 жыл бұрын
Titan what do you think about Walter mills?
@taurinetrashmann259
@taurinetrashmann259 5 жыл бұрын
Hey can someone direct me to a place where I can buy aluminum like that? I’m not a machinist and I don’t have access to tooling equipment (sadly), but I DO need aluminum for metal casting, and seeing that much aluminum being shredded to bits is slightly infuriating tbh
@windowlickerpaintbal
@windowlickerpaintbal 5 жыл бұрын
have you tried googling "metal distributors" ? or if you're looking for a low volume of metal and want to make it simple check out mcmaster carr ( mcmaster.com )
@h2opower
@h2opower 6 жыл бұрын
You da man! That is some scary stuff you just did and pulled it off nicely. Since I work with mostly plastic, aluminum, and stainless steel to me this is very impressive. I hope one day I can make it to just half way to what you know about cutting stuff. Keep up the great work as you are an inspiration to a lot of us just starting in on machining.
@smythdiana9371
@smythdiana9371 6 жыл бұрын
If you never break a tool, you'll never know how fast you can go
@atmosphericpressure3560
@atmosphericpressure3560 6 жыл бұрын
Smyth Diana True. We have to err on the side of caution. I cant go to my boss with a destroyed $800 facemill. I just cant. This was awesome because it is something we all want to try.
@LD-qj2te
@LD-qj2te 6 жыл бұрын
Smyth Diana that ridiculous . It’s alll science . Understand sfm chip load materials and tools
@boldee101
@boldee101 5 жыл бұрын
@bobwatters Absolutely a good machinist instinctively knows when they have the feed and speed right, this takes years of experience, you can talk all the formulas you like but my ear with 35 years in the trade knows best, in any case the maths isn't always get it right in practice.
@boldee101
@boldee101 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you don't make love like that Smyth ;)
@boldee101
@boldee101 5 жыл бұрын
@bobwatters Indeed, and that does not qualify them as machinists, manual machines are still needed to back up CNC and if you don't have the skill you are in trouble.
@gman5986
@gman5986 5 жыл бұрын
What is the best software or application for calculating speeds and feeds for cnc machining?
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын
NOVO from Kennemetal is Great
@gman5986
@gman5986 5 жыл бұрын
@@TITANSofCNC Thanks Titan.........Amazing Response Time. All the best to you in 2019!
@FredFlintstone21
@FredFlintstone21 5 жыл бұрын
We just got the same ngc control in (2018 haas vf5xt). I noticed your chip load you see on the screen is reading correctly as a 4 flute cutter. So far I just programmed tool length and dia of tool . Looks like there is more for me to add (# of flutes)
@kj55
@kj55 6 жыл бұрын
I was checking out that spindle speed I fig you had them RPMS up there lol. Good video
@chaddanylak8706
@chaddanylak8706 5 жыл бұрын
at collage I try to push the haas mini mill to it limit, it got a 6000rpm 5.6kw spindle(7.5hp) I then got it running at 7500 mm/m feedrate which is about 300ipm, I then chickhen out as the spindel is reach over 8.9kw(8.9)
@paulmilligan1808
@paulmilligan1808 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Titan what would happen if you made a cutter body or bought one that can hold 5 or even 6 inserts I bet you could even go faster bring down your chip load by adding inserts....
@TR-sg9jc
@TR-sg9jc 6 жыл бұрын
if you get a holder that has 5 or even 6 inserts you could actually run the spindle ccw. Or atleast in theory...
@wwiijjii
@wwiijjii 6 жыл бұрын
The inserts are still facing the same way, how could you go ccw?
@joelsefur666
@joelsefur666 6 жыл бұрын
You'd bust them off
@charris942
@charris942 6 жыл бұрын
ccw?
@peters_z
@peters_z 6 жыл бұрын
Ccw counterclockwise... running it backwards
@illumiNOTme326
@illumiNOTme326 6 жыл бұрын
Could you try this same experiment with nitrogen cooling the cutter?
@samraa2006
@samraa2006 6 жыл бұрын
Your an epic man and amazing .... inspiring and brave .... nice demo and its a great tuturial who understood what were you doing ....
@cristicoste3443
@cristicoste3443 4 жыл бұрын
How ca-n i restart în The midle of program to makino a500z
@danielcolbert9700
@danielcolbert9700 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, You're the man. Is Kennametal your brand of choice for indexable cutters? I'm sure you've tried a variety of brands and know your stuff so I'm just curious. I'm in the process of modernizing my machine shop and I am currently focusing on tooling. Keep it up!
@chrismechanic2000
@chrismechanic2000 3 жыл бұрын
wow, im surprised the surface finish was still very good at that high feed rate, great vid guys.
@captainobvious2472
@captainobvious2472 6 жыл бұрын
How much does that cutting head cost? And did you ruin it for future work?
@fireblade9549
@fireblade9549 6 жыл бұрын
Put a larger diameter cutter in an go at less than 50% width of cut, that way the cutter is always climb milling and reducing the force.
@SkyzzV_
@SkyzzV_ 3 жыл бұрын
Makes no sense if you want to go fast... larger diameter = slower
@xenonram
@xenonram 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of a difference it would have made if you were conventional milling, rather than climb milling, on the original 2.7" step over. When you were on the 600 & 700 passes, it had that big wall that may have messed with chip evacuation. (P.S. I am NOT a machinist. So if that's an absolutely stupid observation and query, forgive me.) Also, I would like to see a video of milling with & without coolant. For example, if you did the *exact* same cuts with coolant and without coolant. Maybe with a parametric graph with the spindle load % & kw, HP, and surface footage. So we could see whether or not the coolant makes an appreciable difference, or any statistically significant difference at all. Maybe even one comparing MQL, mist, HP vs LP flood coolant, WD-40, brushed on cutting style lube like the old school guys use on the manual machines, etc.
@ImranImran-wi5dh
@ImranImran-wi5dh 6 жыл бұрын
Nice nob there , in my experience the sweet spot is a resonating sound that feels like music to the ears. When you hear it you automatically get to know that neither the spindle nor the tool is bearing any abuse. I work in millimetres and using 45 kw spindles , 22000 RPM a feedrate of 7000 - 8000 mm/min , and depth of cut 4-5 mm it feels like and orchestra . With smaller tools 3mm depth of cut is better and safer. Whats your spindle power and torque ?
@donparker8246
@donparker8246 2 жыл бұрын
Adding the coolant,I bet, made a difference. I wonder what would've happened if you increased the spindle speed?
@codymartin4771
@codymartin4771 6 жыл бұрын
I loved this! As an apprentice machinist this guy can show me da way... haha awesome keep up the CNC videos! coming from washington state! The future must hold more machinists!! lets go!
@ajayraut3913
@ajayraut3913 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, thanks for uploading I want Type3 Software, do u have it?
@5473572
@5473572 6 жыл бұрын
This kind of experimentation is fun when you have the time to play like that. I"m curious, when you hit 600 IPM, what was the chip load per tooth?
@shawnlentz6821
@shawnlentz6821 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming a 12k spindle and 5 inserts the chip load was . 01 per insert per rev
@paul-tx5tt
@paul-tx5tt 5 жыл бұрын
i assume you used the same side of the inserts for all the tests? there was probably build up on the inserts once you got to the high IPM
@cncrim1
@cncrim1 5 жыл бұрын
The video show you fast the thing cut but doesn't show you tool life comparision, the over all money ratio to profit at the end.
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын
You must not have watched the end. I simply was showing the the tool can outlast the machine so don’t be scared and then backed it off and said 400 was the sweet spot We run at 400 all the time and never have issues at all...
@joandar1
@joandar1 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see this demo on alloy. I would like to see the result if you had tried to do fast speed (ipm) before you had reduced the height with previous cuts. More leverage on part, that would be interesting! Cheers from John, Australia.
@felixbender2041
@felixbender2041 3 жыл бұрын
i started my cnc-carreer about 1,5 years ago with lathe turning... my colleauges called me crazy for roughing aluminum with stainless-steel-inserts at doc 5mm f .5mm v 500m/min :D i just started introducing high power inserts for roughing, pushing productivity by +300% - +800% depending on material and possibility to get good grip ;-) love your show, PeacE :D
@ripleybrown8075
@ripleybrown8075 3 жыл бұрын
Cool vid. but need to know rated power of spindle and chipload per flute as well as chipload per revolution! how many revolutions per min? gotta know stuff but cool vid either way!
@aaronjay4896
@aaronjay4896 6 жыл бұрын
Have to love the variables, from a parametric programmer👽
@sbeprecisionproducts6729
@sbeprecisionproducts6729 5 жыл бұрын
The Fadal I was running yesterday cant even rapid at 800 IPM more like 700 ipm rapid at most. This is crazy stuff.
@johndoe-bw6pj
@johndoe-bw6pj 5 жыл бұрын
Is this aluminum or aluminium? Can't tell.
@carlossalvadormoralesjuare7037
@carlossalvadormoralesjuare7037 6 жыл бұрын
Titan, bearing into the spindle going to be affected? This was interesting test!!
@wilecatrexy
@wilecatrexy 5 жыл бұрын
The coolant made the most difference I'm sure.
@beccabeme
@beccabeme 6 жыл бұрын
20.3 metres a minute is certainly travelling. What RPM were you running? What grade aluminium were you using? Material has a big bearing. Insert geometry also has an influence. All machining is a lot of trade offs between speed, tool use, wear and number of operations in a job. The rapid traverse rates and speed of tool change also can have a bearing in time taken. Would be interested in seeing this performed on steel tho.
@CaptainDammiit
@CaptainDammiit 6 жыл бұрын
I want one of your titans of cncs T-shirt’s! I enjoy watching the videos you guys post!
@abidahsan7389
@abidahsan7389 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU KENNAMETAL
@Ale-Garcia
@Ale-Garcia 3 жыл бұрын
Can u try with H-13 or D-2
@user-tw9io9nz2m
@user-tw9io9nz2m 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video and I learnt a thing or two. The only thing I don't understand is why the emphasis is put on feed rate while there are more variables contributing to material removal. Making money with a machine means removing volume as quickly as possible, which would mean cubic inches per minute. The 600ipm pass at a 2.7" stepover was 126 cubic inches per minute The 800ipm pass at a 1.5" stepover was 120 cubic inches per minute BUT with reduced spindle load What I would suggest in search for a metal-hogging recipe is to be at full depth of cut, keep the maximum feed rate and play with the stepover. The reason being, you're paying for big inserts but only use .1 inch of the tip. Any thoughts?
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 6 жыл бұрын
2.7 was definitely a higher HP also... My point was not to bury the tool but just to show everyone the tool could handle a lot... so don't be scared to experiment. My normal feed as seen the the spark plug video is 300-500IPM at Z-.2 which gives me a nice MRR.
@TravisHammeng
@TravisHammeng 6 жыл бұрын
𝖘 𝖍 𝖎 𝖗 𝖔 you're right a more complete doc would use the insert more efficiently. Though generally a tool of that size your probably using more for facing style cuts, not so much mass MMR, there's more suitable tools for that
@steedspeedturbo
@steedspeedturbo 6 жыл бұрын
I cut mild steel every day with sandvick r.390 inserts. One thing I've found to save the cutters and inserts is to either be above the screw or below it. Having the cutting pressure concentrated at the thinnest part of the insert leads to inserts breaking. Best strategy is at 1/3 of insert or 2/3. I cut at 40 ipm with 1 inch sandvick and .5 depth of cut using air through tool on my HAAS VF5 XT. Btw, I've been machining since 1980 and the HAAS is the best machine I've ever used. Yes, I've owned Makino, Matsuura etc. HAAS wipes the floor with them.
@svk1324
@svk1324 6 жыл бұрын
You should try some DMG, Mori Seiki or Hermle Machines. Those wipe the floor with anything else you know.
@Mattyjayw
@Mattyjayw 6 жыл бұрын
"HAAS is the best machine I've ever used" haha
@el737rs
@el737rs 5 жыл бұрын
I could almost smell the metal at 600, haha... I wish I was there to see it live
@chrisbowen1987
@chrisbowen1987 5 жыл бұрын
What does "stepping in at -2.700 radial" mean? What does the "radial" parameter mean?
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын
Just that the tool is 3.0” and 2.7 is engaged in material cutting.
@mnmattie
@mnmattie 6 жыл бұрын
Was that a Pittsburg Dead blow hammer?!
@1972adrianm
@1972adrianm 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like it but so what it works.
@kisspeteristvan
@kisspeteristvan 6 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see the limits of a machine , but in real life application , this is too scary. Over 400 it really gets out of hand , if something breaks , even "only" 200 brings your hearth rate up :D . Now i wanna see some super high feed turning even if it's just aluminium . (parameters like .1 radial depth , feed .05"/rev , and cutting speed about 6000SFM)
@TITANSofCNC
@TITANSofCNC 6 жыл бұрын
You must not have watched it til the end...
@kisspeteristvan
@kisspeteristvan 6 жыл бұрын
i did , but that is just too much for the machine . so what about pushing turning to the limit ?
@codypodevels9145
@codypodevels9145 6 жыл бұрын
Kiss peter that is the reason the shop I work at loses money, one guy runs and saves aggressive money making programs the next guy "ooo that's too much" and drops feeds and speeds by 50% and burns up tooling
@thegadsdensnake408
@thegadsdensnake408 6 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that you did not want to enter the cut right at half the cutter diameter, because it is the weakest part of the cut for the insert. For example enter the cut at 1.6" or 1.4" I could be wrong
@UneasiestDaisy
@UneasiestDaisy 5 жыл бұрын
amazing!! I thought you were going to burn it up the first 700 run
@carolshawol6699
@carolshawol6699 4 жыл бұрын
Were does all that smoke come from the inserts or aluminum?
@Tinkle1
@Tinkle1 4 жыл бұрын
The heat alone, it condenses water from the air
@ThePointlessBox_
@ThePointlessBox_ 3 жыл бұрын
coolant
@TiMechOfficial
@TiMechOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
lol we are using the GARANT feedking and we can mill at vc=1500m/min F=1,11mm (per tooth).... is it faster? AlCuMgPb
@BoxOfGod
@BoxOfGod 4 жыл бұрын
For me usually is the workholding that limits the speeds. I can dial in the numbers even larger MRR than that in video but either there's too little material to hold on or poor selection of vises at the moment. Eitherway it costs money better known as opportunity cost. Proper tools always pays off in time and only thing that you can't replace is time so that will always be the most expensive thing in any shop.
@martynfrench6535
@martynfrench6535 3 жыл бұрын
Man,turn the quill on. What a crack up. Great demo thanks.😁
@fatihaksk7474
@fatihaksk7474 6 жыл бұрын
Yanalı azaltmadan 800 ıpm bor yağlı denermisin ??
@Sonicman1352
@Sonicman1352 3 жыл бұрын
I would've liked to see some chip analysis on this, just to see what kinda chips are breaking across the board at the different feeds.
@basseising1169
@basseising1169 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha love it. Look at the chips, this is realy to much. Greeting from the Netherlands
@sancrtr
@sancrtr 6 жыл бұрын
is it alluminium
@173roberto
@173roberto 5 жыл бұрын
Titan, what SFM are you using?
@wolkelipka2344
@wolkelipka2344 6 жыл бұрын
That's dope I wish I could learn from you 👍
@ondrejburza9706
@ondrejburza9706 6 жыл бұрын
Love this test! How we say: Chips like elephant nails! :-)
@yassinesaidi2338
@yassinesaidi2338 5 жыл бұрын
And Hardness materials are different 😉 ..moreover you're amazing ..whereas you're risking a lot in this trial ... You're the best 👍
@nonjb3811
@nonjb3811 5 жыл бұрын
mrr - 2 liter / min Al ? :)
@freekingawwsome
@freekingawwsome 3 жыл бұрын
ive got to be the biggest viewer i come back and watch this often .
@bandito468
@bandito468 6 жыл бұрын
OOOH WHAT A WORLD.....It was when tape readers and auto-chuckers ruled the world..!!..I toured the Hardinge plant in Elmira in 83' when my company bought their first Super Slant...Kennametal gave the Spectra Physics fab shop some of their first production tooling to try out on the floor..It was good back then, but now OMG..
@biscuitsticks438
@biscuitsticks438 6 жыл бұрын
Mgyver D but a HLVH is still one of the best machines ever made, aside from the 10EE.
@wop5132
@wop5132 4 жыл бұрын
Can we see more lathe testing?
@OneCupOfCoffee204
@OneCupOfCoffee204 2 жыл бұрын
Great video most enjoyable for sure'
@anthonyrb20
@anthonyrb20 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you lower your material removal rate just to make the feed rate faster?
@JosephArata
@JosephArata 3 жыл бұрын
Axial loading...... He specified directly in the explanation.
@raptor50trex
@raptor50trex 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that was insane I've never seen anyone push a machine that hard before!!
@raptor50trex
@raptor50trex 6 жыл бұрын
I work in maintenance so this made me cringe lol
@daviehudson4270
@daviehudson4270 4 жыл бұрын
wish I was allowed the time to get to know the tools
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