Pick the RIGHT vise for woodworking.

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Rex Krueger

Rex Krueger

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@gfsimmons1
@gfsimmons1 2 жыл бұрын
Rex, thank you for your videos. I am 75, retired and a caregiver for my wife. Woodworking has become sawdust therapy for my stay at home lifestyle. You videos have encouraged me to build a workbench, which is a compilation of many content contributors, is a wonderfully addition to my shop. The side Vice is all yours, almost. I am looking forward to today’s video to make a decision on an end Vice. I also do the wood turning so your new series is enjoyable to me and I enjoy your teaching style. Thanks again.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 2 жыл бұрын
Gary, thank you so much for your kind words! I'm delighted that you're finding my content useful and helpful.
@loganbender1562
@loganbender1562 2 жыл бұрын
I will henceforth only refer to my hobby " sawdust therapy"
@joetoner8848
@joetoner8848 2 жыл бұрын
I tip my cap to Logan Bender. The term @sawdusttherapy should go viral!
@BostLabs
@BostLabs 2 жыл бұрын
Sawdust Therapy it is then, gents. 👍
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 2 жыл бұрын
Similar though you've got twenty years on me.
@gavintao1071
@gavintao1071 2 жыл бұрын
tbh, my personal favorite top 3 vises are, my foot, my knee, and my butt
@michaelallenyarbrough9503
@michaelallenyarbrough9503 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really cheap so I designed and built a twin screw vise with a long threaded rod that I cut in half and two nuts for $4, and scraps! It works great!
@WalterMelons
@WalterMelons 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rex I have a video suggestion. How to make a tabletop/mini work bench for hand tool woodworking. I’ve seen other channels make them but I’m curious what you could come up with.
@saxus
@saxus 2 жыл бұрын
Well... I use my great-grandfather's workbench. I'm from Central Europe, for historic reasons we have a lot of german influence in tools and even in professional language. (for example we call the square as "vinkli" after German Winkel). It have the traditional "moving car" tail-vise, and a the "Ping pong racket" style front vise. It's may be more complicated than those new, fancy one, but I still really like that. Much more than this new iron vises. And I think that what kind of vise you use most is really depends what kind of workbench do you have. For example because it have the square metal stops, for almost every planing and thicknessing I use the tail vise. I use the font vise only for edges. Also when I have to do some kind of metal stuff, I can put my bench vise - using a T shaped base made by a birch plank and a spruce 2"* - into the tail vise (because it have much-much bigger surface). And for smaller stuffs (I started to making musical instruments) I can hold them down with an F-clamp or maybe two if I want a surface to use an F clamp horizontally. It's and old, heavly used workbench. But it's still usable and I really like to work with it even if I could probably do or get a better one. * Obviously we use SI.
@BrimfulEmptiness
@BrimfulEmptiness 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely miss the old workbench that my grandfather inherited from his father, which has been built this way and dated from the 19th century. The complex shape of the tail vice opening made that thing really flexible when it came to quickly switching between workpieces of different sizes.
@borjesvensson8661
@borjesvensson8661 Жыл бұрын
We work the same way in sweden (our carpenters often went to gernany as journeymen (gesellen/gesäller)) Only thing done in the front vice is stuff not fitting in the tail vice. You might even plane the edge of boards lying down on the bench sticking out on the side if accuracy is not important. Planing the face of boards in the front vice is just confusing to us. How do you even get the idea? Planning to make more square dogs for my bench from wood. Have not desided if i will use wood springs or canibalise some pens.
@mikezmit340
@mikezmit340 2 жыл бұрын
Like the old knight in Indiana Jones say: "Choose visely" (sorry I couldn't let it pass)
@mm9773
@mm9773 2 жыл бұрын
8:06 I wish people would stop trying to present planing against a planing stop as some kind of virtue - it isn’t. If you prefer it, great. If you prefer not having to worry about your workpiece moving around, then you’re more like me.
@robohippy
@robohippy Жыл бұрын
Hmm, no mention of the Moxon vice. I am thinking one of them would come in handy. I have lots of offcuts from my bowl turning blanks, and they are square, from 1 to 3 inch diameter. They won't stay still in a standard vice.
@robertspeer
@robertspeer 2 жыл бұрын
I am pretty set on bourbon and buying tools I don’t really need, but these seem like nice vices too…
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 2 жыл бұрын
Good one.
@michaelsnell4034
@michaelsnell4034 2 жыл бұрын
I built an extendable bench I saw on Pask Makes. I have a moxon vice on the end with handles I turned on the lathe. I want to make a version of your knock down legs for space saving and portability. A dream vice I saw on Acorn to Arabella is a pattern maker's vice.
@jimcarter4929
@jimcarter4929 2 жыл бұрын
The tail vise is indispensable on my bench. So many uses, use with dogs, especially for plow planing, spare vise (Sometimes something is in face vise I don't want to remove work) some shapes just are not able to go in face vise ( the other day I was leveling plant stand with four legs) and sometime its just easier to saw a board sticking out from vise. On my bench I leave dogs in all the holes in front for face vise faster and easier. They are blind holes so I made hook tool to pull up out of piano wire and dowel handle, dogs have hole drilled at shoulder.
@larryfisher7056
@larryfisher7056 Жыл бұрын
I agree about the tail vise. When plowing or shooting long moldings like window mullions a tail vise is really convenient.
@borjesvensson8661
@borjesvensson8661 Жыл бұрын
Why not through holes and dogs not long enough to push up from underneath? Do you have a apron on the bench (and how do you keep a blind dog hole free from debri?)
@jimcarter4929
@jimcarter4929 Жыл бұрын
@@borjesvensson8661 Apron in the way. holes go through.
@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531
@roughroosterknifesharpenin5531 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished my moxon vice. I put it on the end of my bench. It's almost 3 feet long. I made it from pipe clamps. And made a quick release also. But my problem is that it racks up and down. Still have not figured out a solution yet
@AhmetCnarOzuneUyans
@AhmetCnarOzuneUyans 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Rex, I build my own tail vise and I don't agree with somethings that you say about tail vises: -I don't have to take out the dogs and constantly move them in and out because I have dogs in every hole that is in the way of the tail vise, and all I have to do is to pop-up the one that is needed and pop it in when finished... And also by having dogs in all the holes, saw dust doesn't fall underneath and it is quite useful if you have an extra shelf underneath like my workbench which stays less dusty... -A tail vise doesn't have to be quick-release. If you have enough holes in numbers, then it is not much of turns on tail vise's wheel. (For instance mine has 10 cm distance between the holes) And additionally, the tail vise is almost only for long wood planning, so it means you don't use it much (as in the front vise), not for cutting pieces obviously, so it means using it less, so no quick release is necessary. And also as the tail vise is at the other side of the table, you have to go to that side of the table to operate the quick release, which is I think is not very practical. (I build a 'bench craft tail vise' , so maybe that style is more practical then the version that you show, I don't know 😊) *But of course a simple planning stop is cheaper, easy to build and still very functional. Just that I don't like the look of them and I find it tiring to lift up the hand plane higher every time I plane to the end. Because you know with tail vise, you can secure the piece and it really helps if you have potential back pain issues, especially when working on number 5 or 6 Stanley planes, which are heavier then number 4. -Especially with wider boards, with a planning stop, you have to move it right to left all the time (unless you have a really wide plane stop) and also you are not able to plane crossly as much as you do in a tail vise. -I also plane a lot of wood that is twisted, so I can not imagine planning them without a tail vise.
@stevebenson1802
@stevebenson1802 2 жыл бұрын
Alcohol! That's my vice.
@PeteLewisWoodwork
@PeteLewisWoodwork Жыл бұрын
Hi Rex. I've recently bought two of those quick release 'tail' vices in the largest size; they have the same screw type and ribs that you mention but are re-badged under another name here in UK. As it happens, they were already affordable so imagine my surprise when I got two of them at half price because they were in obsolete packaging. BONUS! 🙂
@nickbrutanna9973
@nickbrutanna9973 2 жыл бұрын
The History Guy: Phillips vs Robertson Screwdrivers kzbin.info/www/bejne/iF7QdaSBqc6pq6s
@famitory
@famitory 2 жыл бұрын
i have a mechanic's vise screwed into a piece of wood sticking up from my bench, such that the top of the jaws faces the operator horizontally at about chest level that i use for clamping bar stock and round stock in a vertical position while working on their ends (drill, tapping, tapering, ect) i'm curious if there's a wood equivalent that holds long pieces up and down for similar purposes
@RoyBlumenthal
@RoyBlumenthal 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes dude... What's happening with your audio? Hopefully this isn't your normal setup. Hopefully it's just that something went wrong, and this is the best you could do in post to fix it. But it might be that you're using settings that have this weird, clipped, strangely EQed, strangely compressed result on purpose. Won't you chat to some buddies who know about audio to try and sort this out? Thanks man. And thanks for the vice vid. And every other vid you make.
@BlackHoleForge
@BlackHoleForge 2 жыл бұрын
Here I was scrolling through my feed and then I saw your thumbnail. It feels like I haven't seen you in forever.
@B.A.Bassangler
@B.A.Bassangler 6 ай бұрын
I'm working on my modified "Maximum Timber Bench", a combo of Min-Tim/Eng Joiner's. After much deliberation, I thought you may enjoy that my choice of the leg vise, was ultimately decided on one key factor...which vise will hurt less when I inevitably walk into it?
@markluke8447
@markluke8447 3 ай бұрын
Great advise Rex, thank you for sharing. I need to build a workbench and will look deeper into your options. Im limited in space, sharing double car garage with wife’s car. Is there a bench you suggest?
@TheGologozo
@TheGologozo Жыл бұрын
".....you had to go vintage..." dude. that's your answer for everything..!😍
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 2 жыл бұрын
Miami Vise is my favourite 💪🌴♥
@thomash7117
@thomash7117 2 ай бұрын
Hey Rex Question. I want to add some vises to my workbench. You mentioned that if you’re right handed you want to put your face vise on the left side of the workbench. Why is that?
@TheTylerWhit
@TheTylerWhit Жыл бұрын
I'm used to larger, corded routers kzbin.infoUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
@anthonyrich1592
@anthonyrich1592 Жыл бұрын
So... both of your quick release vices had built-in dogs right above the screw. Why go to the trouble of adding a dog to the wooden jaws? Why not just mount the vices at the correct height so you can make use of the built-in dogs?
@TheTrock121
@TheTrock121 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I would only add that when using a draw knife, you can't beat a shaving horse aka foot vise.
@DeeegerD
@DeeegerD Жыл бұрын
As per your suggestions. I don't have any $ thus one uses what one has, can get or borrow. My hardware store vice is sufficient but your placement on the far left would have me against a wall. Two thirds towards the left would be better. I have no problem with having to screw the vice back and forth either.
@georgstudnicka9969
@georgstudnicka9969 2 жыл бұрын
What about wodden screws? Someone told me they were better than metal. I think about building such a screw of wood. That will be interesting...
@mattstandeven2599
@mattstandeven2599 Жыл бұрын
I may be wrong but if one is right handed, wouldn't you want the vise on the right side of the bench? when cross cutting wood, wouldn't you almost always cut with the waste piece to the right of your saw. Thoughts?
@camerongaul261
@camerongaul261 2 жыл бұрын
So I misunderstood and thought we were supposed to pick a vice, for woodworking. That didn't work out well.
@duckels1
@duckels1 2 жыл бұрын
Hey rex, I don't see a video going over exactly what planes you should have as a beginner starting out and like a deep dive on planes, am I missing which video that is or could that be a video in the future?
@cna9708
@cna9708 2 жыл бұрын
Do you intentionally position the cameras so they shake when you whack the holdfasts while looking really strong? ;D
@glabbe27
@glabbe27 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, Rex. I was wondering if you could speak to face vise positioning? The majority of bench plans in woodworking magazines that I’ve seen over the years tend to position a face vise on the “outside” of a leg, closer the the end of the bench. In recent years we’ve seen where folks like Paul Sellers and Vic Tesolin have their face vises mounted on the inside of the leg, closer to the middle of the bench. Are there advantages to one approach over the other? Thanks, Gene
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 2 жыл бұрын
I think you just really want it close to a leg. Other than that, I'm not sure it matters.
@troystallard6895
@troystallard6895 2 жыл бұрын
In normal woodworking, I pretty much agree with you. But it you get into traditional boat building, there's an unescapable truth: no matter how many clamps you have, on any particular project you're going to be two clamps short of the number you need. :)
@borjesvensson8661
@borjesvensson8661 Жыл бұрын
But that is for fitting boards! Not planing. I love my traditional swedish tail vice but learned building boats in norway with planing stops and butt clamping.
@johnrako
@johnrako 2 жыл бұрын
Love what you do. Off topic but I was taught to always lay my plane on its side when I set it down. Thoughts?
@michaelallenyarbrough9503
@michaelallenyarbrough9503 2 жыл бұрын
Down. You're less likely to cut yourself. And other tools are more likely to scrape/nick the blade than your wood bench top.
@ElwoodSharit
@ElwoodSharit 2 жыл бұрын
I came here looking for ad vise. But you never play any ads. ):
@carterscustomrods
@carterscustomrods Жыл бұрын
My buddy got the new 7in carpenters vise from Harbor Frieght ($70). It's a surprisingly well made quick release vise that mimics Yost, and almost 1/2 the price of the Yost! He used the 20% off coupon and made it an even better deal.
@nicholasdavis9849
@nicholasdavis9849 9 ай бұрын
How do you feel about Wagin Vices? I’d love to see a video from you on those.
@Dunc2222
@Dunc2222 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of a costly tail vice, wouldn't a good alternative be a wonder dog (eg, by Veritas, or alternatives) used with bench dogs (or with a planing stop) to hold down pieces for planing or sanding? Is there any downside to this, in comparison to a tail vice?
@andrewyork3869
@andrewyork3869 Жыл бұрын
Could you turn a face vise on its side, if you awaited a Scandinavian style shoulder vise?
@albertjonas5675
@albertjonas5675 2 жыл бұрын
How to advise on how to add vise? (Sorry puns are my vice...)
@erlixerlix7573
@erlixerlix7573 2 жыл бұрын
I almost exlusively use the tail vice on my antique scandinavian work bench. The front vice is rarely used and only if I have to clamp a really large piece for edge work like a table top or a door. When planing I always use the tail vice and the hand forged dogs that came with the bench. In fact the front vice consists of a wooden screw about 60 mm in diameter and not much else. The tail vice is much easier to use.
@borjesvensson8661
@borjesvensson8661 Жыл бұрын
We sure love our tail vices here in sweden. The front vice is not even concidered a real vice by many😄. If i built my own bench it would probably have a scandinavian/german tail vice with 3-5 dog holes and a leg vice as a front vice. (Those things are so much more stable than our front vices that pretty much is for edges of boards and sawing dovetails. But there are so many cheap old benches in good shape around here that there is no need for building a bench.
@brucecomerford
@brucecomerford 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Rex. That was very helpful.
@Biaanca5036
@Biaanca5036 2 жыл бұрын
I just use the little 18$ harbor freight vise. It's not like I'm throwing 16ft, 8x8 *hundred-pound logs* on it. Just tiny wooden posts, 2x4x8s, and faceplates and stuff
@robinradema1
@robinradema1 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing, been thinking about upgrading my workbench vise.
@Chayanta
@Chayanta 2 жыл бұрын
same here, just about to buy my first vise
@s.d_jones007
@s.d_jones007 11 ай бұрын
can i use the tail vise as a face vise, because i want the quick release but i also want a face vise
@brianwallace9997
@brianwallace9997 2 жыл бұрын
Rex, I want a better vise and I am ready to raise my woodworking skills to build one. I am looking to build a Scandinavian style shoulder vise. Yes, it is more complicated than other vises, but can its construction not be simplified? Is dovetail construction really required or is this just an opportunity for very advanced woodworkers to show off their skills? The cost of building a shoulder vise is modest. (The metal hardware sells for C$42.50 at Lee valley). Sourcing the hardwood required to make the large timbers for the shoulder may be difficult for some but this is not a showstopper. My problem is that there are very few articles, videos or plans on how to build one and those that exist are not great. Rex, I could use your help. Are you up for the challenge?
@DarrinSK
@DarrinSK 2 жыл бұрын
is it easy enough to build a stop into the beginner knock down bench?
@leestokes6761
@leestokes6761 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased the complete plans for the joiner’s bench. Part of my garage will be my shop--once it’s warm enough for me spend the time needed to install the electric shop heater. (Heat and cold coexist rather uneasily with a neurological condition.). The completed bench will sit on casters which can raise and lower the legs. A lot of my woodworking will be things such as baseboards and window/door casings, possibly some wainscoting. Even if, like me, you mostly use power tools, you NEED a sturdy, easy-to-build bench for project assembly. These snooty, stained and varnished Baltic Birch benches? Get real! The d*mn thing’s a workbench, not a place to show off your refined woodworking skills! Anyway, hand-planing seems the best method for smoothing and leveling the wide sides of planks even if you did use a router table as a jointer prior to glue-up. (I wish I had the plane I used in my junior high school wood shop back in 1968.) My late paternal grandfather was a maintenance machinist for an aircraft plant. He took up woodworking when he retired. One of his last projects was a doll cradle for my oldest daughter, his first great-granddaughter. In addition to the finish carpentry mentioned above, I want to duplicate that cradle and give one to each of my own four granddaughters. If it works out, perhaps I can supplement my retirement income by selling doll cradles at local farmer’s markets and craft fairs.
@silmarils94
@silmarils94 2 жыл бұрын
I have a tail vice, but I'm building a new bench ( as I know now what I want and need it will be an English bench ) and......no more tail vice, it's in the way for cross cutting rough stock. The approach of Richard Maguire suit me best in term of high and holding.( I'm preparing rough stock by hand ) Regards from France.
@knutzzl
@knutzzl 2 жыл бұрын
See the machinist vice in the background... That's what's on my bench (sideways on the front left corner) in addition i have a workmate (one of the folding travel things) and that's it...
@davidbeckwith7598
@davidbeckwith7598 2 жыл бұрын
I found a Emmert Patternmaker's Vise at Joughin Hardware in Painesville..."I Love it"
@LordPadriac
@LordPadriac 2 ай бұрын
I recently built a new bench and used the improved Moxon Vise kit Taytools sells for about forty bucks for both the face vise and the tail vise with the only difference being how much space between the screws and the resulting moveable jaw size. I do not care how many people say it is wrong or a bad idea. It works and I simply love it. Plus both vises cam in at about eighty bucks total.
@CzKaa
@CzKaa 2 жыл бұрын
Ooops. I have good ironcast tail vise (with stop block) prepared to be as face wise. I am rebel. :D But I have solution: in my small workshop, my new bench will be combined with tablesaw/router and will be designed as square, where is not face and tail.... :D
@TomBuskey
@TomBuskey 2 жыл бұрын
I'm lost w/o a planing stop. I also have a angled leg vice, a portable moxon (2x4s + 8" 1/4-20 bolt + wing nuts) for dovetails. And a wonder pup in the row of dogholes for when I want a tail vice setup.
@mm9773
@mm9773 2 жыл бұрын
2:48 No it isn’t - unless you’re using a vice like the one shown here, that doesn’t seem to want to move at all; any half-decent vice will move in and out much more easily than that. Quick-release vices can be convenient, but if you find a great vice that doesn’t have a quick release mechanism, absolutely go for it. Most of the time you will clamp and unclamp the same piece, I don’t know where Rex takes the idea from that you’ll constantly switch between pieces of different sizes. Sometimes you’ll switch between the face and the edge of a board, and that can get annoying, but it’s annoying with or without a quick release mechanism. Yes, I’d strongly recommend additional options like bench dogs and holdfasts - and a tail vice, which doesn’t have to be a quick-release vice, either. Of course you’ll want to secure things easily and quickly, but if speed is really that much of an issue in your hand tool woodworking shop, you might want to give machine woodworking a try.
@scorpianspirit5124
@scorpianspirit5124 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for some good ad-vise ! ;-)
@somebodypeculiar
@somebodypeculiar 3 ай бұрын
I grew up using my father's wood vise, which had in interrupted screw. Crank it open until it stops, slide it in or out, then crank it closed - but a bit less than one rotation. Wonderfully convenient. When I set up my first bench 40 years ago I was too spoiled to live without a quick release, so I spent a heap on a Record. That vise is still attached to that bench, but I later inherited my father's old wood vise. It sat around for years, until I needed a bench for the basement, the original being in the garage. I doubt you would think much of that bench. The top is most of a flush, solid core door that I acquired with my house, and the structure is held together with a Simson StrongTie workbench kit. Solid and simple. Utilitarian. That bench also has a big heavy bench vise. Man does not live by wood alone.
@johnhernlund539
@johnhernlund539 Жыл бұрын
I'm building a bench now...in the process I realized that Apron boards (such as those on the English bench) obviate much of the need for a large face vice, since larger work pieces can simply be clamped to the aprons themselves in a variety of ways...so I ordered some inch-thick maple boards to attach to the side as aprons. I'll still keep my quick release face vise (with the back jaw seated behind the apron board) and it will get most of the holding use, but for larger pieces the apron seems critical..
@cezar9344
@cezar9344 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there. Rex I've got a favour to ask. Could you tell me the diameter of the screw and the support rods on your vintage vise. I'm currently working on welding my own vise.
@tomfomby4853
@tomfomby4853 Жыл бұрын
I built a tail vise that is removable from my work bench, as you said, not easy to add one to a bench,, unless it is removable. this was a prototype that I thought I would try. Turned out great. I mount it to my work bench using the dogs,, The fact it is about 3 inches tall makes it perfect for hand plaining on top of my low work bench. Built it out of scraps. but even surprised myself. Took about half a day,, bought the screw online. guess can't add attachments here,, new here myself, but like your channel. very informative.
@jonathanvanderwoude6332
@jonathanvanderwoude6332 Жыл бұрын
Hi Rex. Thank you for the detailed content in your videos. My question is about the shape of each vise. I understand the uses based on where it's mounted. However the options I see are a vise with a larger plate (and quick release) verses longer thin vise (with or without quick release). Is there a reason I should not use your tail vise as a face vise? Or for that matter, the same vise in both locations? I'm about to build a bench so I'll probably just go with your suggested options, but I'm curious as to why they have different shapes. Thanks again.
@1romcat
@1romcat 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rex, so about vise’s. For a face vise is a metal jawed version with dog preferable or a cabinetmakers type wooden jaw on moving jaw and bench edge acting as other?
@kypdrayson
@kypdrayson 2 жыл бұрын
Just after I finished gathering all the supplies needed to build the Quick Stack, Rex tells me I should build a bench without a vice instead. What am I supposed to do with these vices, Rex?! I'm kidding; thanks for the video! It'll be my first workbench, and I was already wondering how to add a plane stop and more holes to it, before I've even built it.
@thesweetone
@thesweetone 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always Rex, sadly like the last few i watched ... about 24 hours late for me as i just ordered a new vise ... i, uhh ... destroyed my last one. just... don't ask.
@mdglussier
@mdglussier Жыл бұрын
I am building a built-in workbench in an alcove in my basement for when it's too cold to work outside, or for other projects that are smaller scale, etc. I settled on Lee Valley's quick-release pipe vise because it's small, can be removed from the face of the bench as needed, and doesn't get in the way of the 52" tool chest I've got underneath. That said, I'll keep this in mind for the English bench that I'm putting together in the garage. I built a little saw bench and bent that will take care of a lot of the crosscutting and sawing work like crosscuts and ripping with a kataba or a western-style handsaw - kind of like the low bench but even smaller for my micro workspace. All this to say, my woodworking game has been hugely elevated because of your videos and no-nonsense approach to woodworking! Thanks for your great work.
@wickedwoodgaming1486
@wickedwoodgaming1486 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to find my woodworking bug again. I watched all your videos for years while I built up my shop and skills. I gotta thank you for that. But the last year ive been to my shop twice. And it wasn't to make dust.
@johnzx14rk94
@johnzx14rk94 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rex. I just made a 8'x30" woodworking table. I need a few vises.
@BinManSays87
@BinManSays87 2 жыл бұрын
I managed to find a NOS record 52D for £55 sure I could of got a used one or one without a dog much cheaper but I wanted the dog, FYI I'm local to Sheffield England so good old tools come cheap around here on the market stalls
@arnoldkotlyarevsky383
@arnoldkotlyarevsky383 2 жыл бұрын
You know what would be a kind of low effort but potentially fun video series? Examining some of the big names in wood working, look at one of their youtube videos and see what stuff you think is good or what is outdated or what would be worth replicating. The Paul Sellers woodworking bench from scratch using only hand tools was a cool video series but the bench is...enormous and not really representative of the kinds of benches you see online or even in his later videos. Id love to hear your thoughts on the project.
@gregdeitrick6073
@gregdeitrick6073 2 жыл бұрын
Putting the primary vise in the face or tail position makes no difference, as far as I can see, except that the face position will make convenient edge planing long boards and the tail position will make more convenient face planing rough stock with a scrub plane. So I think it comes down to which of those jobs are done more frequently. Also, I'm having enough trouble chopping out dovetails even with the work clamped down, which is more convenient with a tail vise available. I also find that marking and sawing dovetails goes better if both edges of the work are securely clamped. None of those vises can do that. I am considering dual 6 inch tail vises, about $35 each, and use a caul spanning across both of them (possibly reinforced with a bit of angle iron) to clamp long, wide boards for end work.
@peterk7428
@peterk7428 2 жыл бұрын
As for which vise for me? I choose junk food.
@sovl2659
@sovl2659 2 жыл бұрын
Hello rex I Know that you love traditional simple and yet functional approach when selecting vices, by any chance do you know about Adaptable Leg Vise designs? There are some Clamp design that adapt to the shape of different object I was wondering if there is any model out there that can be applied to a vise as well
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 2 жыл бұрын
So advice on a vise… lol Looking forward to it.
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 2 жыл бұрын
As it turns out, the vise advise was fantastic! Thanks Rex
@borjesvensson8661
@borjesvensson8661 Жыл бұрын
There is a way around the tail vice without the quick release. Traditional tail vices hav about 3-5 dog holes at a smaller distance than the one in the bench so shifting the dog around quickly adjusts the lenght to something that almost fits (put the board on the benchtop and move it lengthwise until it is close to one dog hole in the vice and one in the bench). This way you never need to move the vice more than about one inch Working with a tail vice can be made even faster by having more than two dogs. Traditional benches are made in such a way that the dogs can be pushed into the dogholes without falling through and if you have many dogs you often only have to push up one! Shop made dogs also save on tools if you get carried away while planing. Of course this does not mean planing without a vice or clamp is still often faster.
@foxmoulder7724
@foxmoulder7724 2 жыл бұрын
why have i never plane stops outside of your channel? Im definitely puting one in my workbench!
@BinManSays87
@BinManSays87 2 жыл бұрын
I got an old NOS record vice last year the same as your tail vice for like £50 delivered but I have a made in Sheffield issue which comes in handy with living in a city next to it and all the best old tool brands setting up shop there
@jeytex3161
@jeytex3161 2 жыл бұрын
Clear straight forward ad”vice” ! Lol appreciate this video since Iam at that point of building a bench.
@SeekerOfLight
@SeekerOfLight 2 жыл бұрын
What's your thoughts on this cool little bench Rex? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHiYh2iCqN-XgLM
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Tamar is brilliant and I love her videos... but if you have the tools to make that bench, I kind of doubt that you need that bench. I'm sure someone well tell me I'm wrong, but that's my gut reaction.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 2 жыл бұрын
I've just picked up a simple vintage Record vise that needs a little restoration, that's what I'll be using.
@WoLpH
@WoLpH 2 жыл бұрын
If I had the money and the need, I would get a Twin Turbo Vise from Andrew Klein. Absolutely brilliant bit of engineering
@derekholifield8047
@derekholifield8047 2 жыл бұрын
Lord Voldemort strikes again with another banger! Nice job!
@spencerhanson7808
@spencerhanson7808 8 ай бұрын
An application where a tail vise may be a life saver is sanding cross cut log pieces. (For those that don't have a giant drum sander)
@NoodleGod-kg5ni
@NoodleGod-kg5ni 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't started woodworking yet but i was wondering if its possible to build a workbench top without glue or fasteners using dimensional lumber from the hardware store like you use on most of your recent bench builds?
@johnfreiler6017
@johnfreiler6017 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you're getting something for all the vices you just sold... Got a new face vice on order.
@James_T_Kirk_1701
@James_T_Kirk_1701 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap Rex, I literally was comparing the Yost and Pony last night.
@prof.crastinator
@prof.crastinator 2 жыл бұрын
How about a tail vise that doubles as a planning stop? That way no quick release needed- but still have ability if necessary?
@douglasmurphy5343
@douglasmurphy5343 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Tell us about your machinist’s vise.
@MannoMax
@MannoMax 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say you need a quick release if you use a vise a lot. Machinists vises never have quick releases, and a machinist usually just has 1 vise on their bench
@CzKaa
@CzKaa 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, still I have some time to buy some good drink and prepare for show. :)
@colemine7008
@colemine7008 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I keep going in circles on this one. I have had several vises in my carte for year now. I'm going to watch this again. I got some mix messaging from you on this. You finished on the note .. you like the Yost. But.. it was also presented as the secondary vise.
@maty7645
@maty7645 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another thought provoking video. Great ad...vice!
@mikegilbert5434
@mikegilbert5434 2 жыл бұрын
The correct answer is obviously all of them!!!:)
@weisnowhere
@weisnowhere 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of a tail vise I use a benchdog screw clamp, I rarely use them and they're cheaper so it's good for my needs! Thanks!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 2 жыл бұрын
I keep meaning to pick one of those up. They seem very nice for the English Bench.
@James_T_Kirk_1701
@James_T_Kirk_1701 2 жыл бұрын
Rex I actually use these now. I for a long time did wood working on just a narrow section of bench that was pre built along the wall of a shed I bought. That a 1/8 inch strip of plywood in two dog holes were the only work holding I had. Built a moxon vice especially for dovetails. I really think people don’t know what kind of options they have for work holding because they are just brainwashed into thinking they need a huge bench and expensive vises. You should try one I really like mine. It worked particularly well for me as my work station was very narrow and long. Hard to explain without a photo or two so I will sore you the novel. Nonetheless, your workholding videos are priceless because frustration with holding your work was my biggest issue when starting out.
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up as a support
@marvelousmaker
@marvelousmaker 2 жыл бұрын
You seem like a man with many vises
@J.A.Smith2397
@J.A.Smith2397 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on homemade leg vise. I picked up an old beat up leg vise n used the wood screw after surgery on it lol n used a part of it to lengthen it to the floor. Draw bored it with like a 2 inch tenon lol
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
Rex, I’ve been making videos for almost a year and was wondering if I could ask you a technical question? I love your presentation and delivery and am wondering if you are using a teleprompter or are memorizing your script or what? Can you weigh in on your process?
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 2 жыл бұрын
It's all scripted. Anytime I'm talking but the camera isn't on me, I'm just reading. Then I have short passages that I memorize, so I look up, say a few sentences and then go back to reading. On a topic I know really well, I'll also have sections where I improvise, so I don't have to do so much writing. I'll just have a short part where I talk off the top of my head. I love working from a script, but it's time-consuming.
@James_T_Kirk_1701
@James_T_Kirk_1701 2 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger Having notes really makes for a better more direct delivery and helps make sure all points are covered.
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger yeah no kidding! I find that scripting helps me to make sure that I say everything that I want to say, in a logical, linear fashion, and reading from a teleprompter keeps me from umming and stammering my way through the content. I know you’re a guitar player, you can check it out if you want. It’s mostly setup tips and stuff. Love the channel!
@mattevans-koch9353
@mattevans-koch9353 2 жыл бұрын
Made my Wednesday evening Rex. Thank you for the vise links also. Have a great weekend.
Installing a "basic" vise is pretty difficult.
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