Picogrill 85 & 239 Swiss made Wood Burning Stoves (IMPORTANT UPDATE)

[@RTWood5131]

This is amazing. I just found it this morning. You do the best videos. I am not a camper since I lost my husband, but I do enjoy dabbling in my backyard. Sometimes I take my dog to the park where they have picnic areas for fires. I have been collecting hobo and rocket stoves of all kinds. I love this. I bought the 239 because I always say get the largest of anything I can afford. I will order in in a few minutes. Your video is sparking my interest in BBQing again. Thank you so much. I want to watch your others I missed.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad I could spark your interest, and thanks for the kind words!

[@davidfritzen4474]

I took the 85 on a weekend backpack at a higher altitude where fuel and wind would make a fire problematic. I brought a couple chunks of that prime 6 charcoal that I lit in the stove with some fat wood and a fire starter. Had over four hours of hot coal and leisurely cooked a nice meal and hot drinks.. Great hand warmer too and was really pleased with the whole set up and the stove.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Sounds very like it was a very enjoyable time. I now have two of the larger stoves to test out as well. Thanks for commenting

[@billb5732]

Based on your recommendation, I bought a PicoGrill 85. It is brilliant and exceptionally lightweight for a packable wood stove. Perfect. Thanks for the tip!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. Thanks for commenting

[@Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival]

That is an awesome twig stove that as you suggested, seems to fill a twig stove niche very nicely. The weight to size/usefulness ratio appears to be very good.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Hi Lonnie. Long term testing will indicate durability compared with the larger, heavier stoves but this is such good choice for anyone looking to reduce weight. Thanks for commenting

[@toastiesburned9929]

I would definitely buy one of the smaller ones for backpacking. It's no heavier than a windscreen for your alcohol burner, but it allows you to use free fuel if/when you run out.

[@paradyne1T101]

I got both of mine from Amazon..They are excellent for ultralite hiking and as emergency stoves!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on! I see they are only available through Amazon US but not Canada, yet. Thanks for commenting

[@kevinmccarthy6718]

Purchased the 239 a few days ago and already had three burns in it! Last night fire about 3 hours. How light and thin! Except for discoloration no warping or anything. Impressive.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. I noted initial warping, taking a set shape as the company indicated it would but no more since. Thanks for commenting

[@jackvoss5841]

I like your comment about, who doesn’t like to sit around and look at a fire. I’ve noticed that people are almost hypnotized when watching a campfire, waves, or clouds. It’s an ancient thing from back there a million or two years. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks for commenting

[@samTollefson]

Clear and honest words, thank you! I gave a review on Amazon referencing your video countering an ignorant review of the 239.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I will have to check that out. Thanks for commenting

[@carmenmartinez2882]

😂😂😂 I saw the dumb review you’re talking about. I have the 85 but was checking the other.

[@samTollefson]

@@carmenmartinez2882 Yes, the guy was a jerk. I put a review linking to this video to help enlighten folks but Amazon didn't publish it because of the added link. I might note the 85 went up 5% (one dollar) since this video came out and if they see a spike in sales, they will continue to increase the price. the 239 seems stable for now but went up from $35 to $40 Sept. 7th.

[@carmenmartinez2882]

@@samTollefson same is going to happen with the other 2 with different format (price wise) that’s why I got them right away. The Chinese knock offs are not the same and I don’t think they’ll last, a friend of mine has one and honestly I think after a few burns it’ll warp tremendously or something whereas I’ve used all of mine plenty and they’re doing fine.

[@Canadian_Craftsman]

Just gave my 239 a super burn in last night its UNBELIEVABLE the lightest weight firepit in the world you are right friend!!😁✊🔥✌️💚

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. It will warp some but does not affect use. Thanks for commenting

[@starlingblack814]

Thanks Mark; that looks like a great lightweight hobo stove. I see now that they are selling them on AMAZON. I think I will pick the 85 up. Thanks again, I enjoy your videos.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

It is a great stove but please buy through the links I provide in the video description to ensure you are not buying a forgery. Thanks for commenting

[@keithsmith5998]

I saw this video. I liked it. I ordered the 85 from Amazon on Saturday. Got it the next day. On Monday I cooked up my breakfast with a small 8 inch cast iron pan. I like it!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you like it. Thanks for commenting

[@jcmuellner]

Looks like a fantastic way to start my foray into wood stoves. Also like that it can take the Trangia spirit burner.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

They are great stoves for sure. Thanks for commenting

[@MrMann703]

I'm addicted to little pack stoves, I like this thing but I probably have too many already haha. I may try to make one though. As always I love the videos, great info

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks for commenting

[@waktosha7378]

I have that identical mocha TILLEY TH5 hemp hat! Mine is faded and well used too!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I have been thinking of dying it dark again but kind of like the faded look as well. Thanks for commenting

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

IMPORTANT UPDATE - The owner of Picogrill advises that all products using the Picogrill name sold on Amazon are forgeries made in China. Do not buy. These are the only authorized dealers: www.picogrill.ch (Selling from Switzerland not on Amazon. Switch to English) PIKARI OUTDOOR-SHOP (Selling on Amazon, soon all the products) WANDERLUST EQUIPMENT (Selling on Amazon)

[@GavTatu]

I did, massively expensive... but i still bought one....sob !

[@Badger77722]

Glad you found the Amazon link for the smaller stove! I saw my first review of this stove about a week ago and it looked like a really nice design! I love the flat shape of it when packed, you can stuff it almost anywhere in your pack, even with the overall size of the stoves. Really nice that they include the ability to use a Trangia (or clone) built-in to the stove.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. At least US residents can buy it. Thanks for commenting

[@Saltfly]

There’s definitely a market here in the States. I just bought both sizes. And if these hold up, they will be my go to wood stoves. I predominantly use firebox G2 stoves which I really like. But the 239 weighs 1/2 of what a 150$ titanium G2, at the cost of 40$. And the 85 weighs 1/5. And I’ll be honest, this thing is an absolute beast. I want to thank you for the heads up. You’ve helped lighten up the load a bit. I always enjoy your videos.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

That is where these stoves sign for sure. So lightweight. Thanks for commenting

[@pedroclaro7822]

You got the prices mixed up i believe. The large Costa 99chf, it's the small one that goes for 40

[@Saltfly]

@@pedroclaro7822 30$

[@rodbagley1686]

When I was watching i was thinking those would be good just as a portable campfire. Not long after that you said about the same thing. Who doesn't love playing in a fire?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. Great price for the 85 on Amazon.com right now. Thanks for commenting

[@carmenmartinez2882]

They have other 2, they are more like a fire pit but you ca cook on them. I have them all, I love them all. The 760 can hold a considerable amount of wood and fairly big pieces, made flat an very light for transporting, 760 is what I use exclusively as a fire pit.

[@randal1470]

I really liked the big one especially. Love the idea of a stove that crosses over to firepit duty.

[@halabujioutdoors]

If you like the big one, 239 model, check out 398 model, which is more as bbq grill.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Right on. So lightweight and capable. Thanks for commenting

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

yes, I have seen that. Often copied by the Chinese

[@northwind7409]

A piece of aluminum flashing cut to fit inside the pouch weighs 23 grams. Not overly strong, but would provide some spark protection. I'd still advise clearing down to mineral soil, as any good outdoor person will always do anyway.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Amazing coincidence. That is exactly what I had done. I had them with me when I recorded the video but was holding mentioning them until I do a more full review. Thanks for commenting my friend

[@northwind7409]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Not so much a coincidence. I knew you keep a supply of flashing for that kind of thing.

[@GavTatu]

got mine today !! only took a week...i am super excited ! just gotta try and get out to use it now ! it was expensive tho, for what it seems it is....i dunno, i don't make 'em ! usually cheapo's from amazon do me fine.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

If I can obtain one of the copies I will do a durability test. Might be fine for occasional use. Thanks for commenting my friend

[@youtube7076]

. Mr.Y, well done yet again :-D I really liked your line where the wood was just starting to catch in the stove demo and you said; "Its starting to catch now, With a Vengeance", one will occasionally rarely hear that in my part of the world as well :-D .

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed it. Funny what sayings we learn growing up. Thanks for commenting

[@halabujioutdoors]

You're right! Never seen them before. But I do know Pico grill 398, which I like it very much, is more as fire pit bbq grill. Just ordered 85 model. Thank you!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I am now hoping to get the 398 to try out. Thanks for commenting

[@halabujioutdoors]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Price of Picogrill 85 went up by USD $1.00 in last few hours. Your introduction is causing buying frenzy in Amazon 🤑👀💥

[@terryw.milburn8565]

Impressive Compact Stoves From Over Yonder, Thanks For This, Mark ! ATB T God Bless

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Great stoves for sure. Thanks for commenting

[@shockers12512]

thank u so much for this breakdown on this stove ive been waiting to choose either this or the ti firebox.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you found it helpful. I now have the two larger Picogrill stoves to test as well. Thanks for commenting

[@kevinmccarthy6718]

Decided to go ahead and also get the Picogrill 85 because so far the larger 239 grill is doing so great. Have total of about 40 burns in it now and still see very little additional warping. However, see where this are fake! If fake are of excellent copies.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Even the Picogrill maker admits some of the copies are fair quality. Of course, when they use his name they are stealing/ Thanks for commenting

[@BingWatcher]

Very nicely done overview of these two stoves. I had thought that they seemed familiar to me, but I had to double check. And sure enough, I had put them on my Amazon wish list a few days ago. In the USA, the Pico 85 is currently selling for about $20 and the larger model is $31. I find it interesting that the manufacturer appears to be unaware of this information.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

In hind sight, he may have meant not available in Canada but I assumed he meant all of North America. Unless, it recently changed. Thanks for commenting

[@richvrm]

Do you still have the link to the stove on Amazon? I was looking the other day but didn't see it. Sorry just saw all the comments in the video details. Won't be buying from Amazon.

[@BingWatcher]

@@richvrm It looks like it was removed from Amazon due to reporting on a counterfeit product

[@oldbatwit5102]

The cheapest I have seen the genuine Pico 85 is around $67 plus shipping, not $20. The 239 goes for around $99 plus shipping. I don't know where people are getting those lower figures from.

[@BingWatcher]

@@oldbatwit5102 At the time of the release of this video, which was almost four months ago, 🙄 Amazon.Com was selling it for the price"s listed in my post of "Pico 85 is currently selling for about $20 and the larger model is $31". Subsequently, we have learned that there was some uncertainty regarding the pedigree of the products in question. 🤔

[@maninacan.6285]

Great video, I like them both but Amazon in the states now has the Pico 85. So I'm going to buy one . Thanks for showing , and for getting this info out. When I get it I think I'll try the keto pizza like you did in a few videos ago Lol.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you liked the video. Before you buy you should know I just learned from the owner of Picogrill that the ones sold on Amazon are fakes. Thanks for commenting

[@hansschmid3937]

Hello Mark... you have made a nice review!!! I use the smaller 85 for a few years now.. most of the time with woodsticks. It works fine.. is very light for my use and super packable... i carry i in my daypack for scrambling allround in the woods or with canoe. It is nearly.. an edc on smaller trips. A few years ago i have lost the u shaped wire.. but it works after first use... without.... at home i took an old inox tentpeg.. made a new one... ready 2 rumble again.. also possible.. to make one of old spokes or inox welding wire.... by the way... i bougt two crossbars from kelly kettle... they work good for a lot of hobos.. like the ikea a. s o. and also for this stove and the funny Decathlon rocketstove as a potstand. I a dreaming of the 239 as a portable fire/cooking pit.. also light enough for a backpack.. Canoe.. Bike or Motorbike Tour. as you mentioned... for a safe fireplace.. to look into the flames... in my opinion... a worthy product... have a nice time.. an again.. it is only simple lousy German basic school english.. 😁😂😂😂🙏

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Hello Hans. Your English is perfectly fine. Thank you for sharing your experience using the Picogrill 85.

[@hansschmid3937]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you.. in my eyes.. a wonderful product. Worth buying... there is a possibility to drill holes into the body of the Hobo.. to plug in small tentpegs in different hights... to lift up the Trangia for better efficiency or to put down a small cup.. nearer to the original potstand of the Trangia for more wind protection... pi will try to find the meassurements again. or a photo.. and send it to you!

[@hansschmid3937]

a few pics on your Facebook account..

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

@@hansschmid3937 Hi Hans. I look forward to seeing the pictures. Thank you

[@carmenmartinez2882]

@@hansschmid3937 great idea, I have this, used it for a 2 + week camping with twigs, charcoal and Trangia, I did noticed it needs to be higher for the Trangia to work more efficiently. I must try what you suggested.

[@kevinmccarthy6718]

Glad to finally see your review as I had already contacted you regarding Brennerle-like stove. Haven't pulled the trigger yet though as already have so many good stoves. Was originally thinking to get the 837, but it's almost too big. Now thinking more likely the 85 Great to see these super light stoves in action!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

More of a preview as I have only used the stoves a few times. They have a lot going for them. Thanks for commenting

[@rodbagley1686]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft I think you reviews could make or break a stove manufacture. You have a good following. I am one of those followers. Thanks!

[@thomascronquist1604]

This stove is a remake of the Littlbug stove. This Pico grill brings a new style of this stove. Light weight, compact. Thank you for the review. You can now buy this and other Picogrills on U. S. Amazon

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

It has a lot of similarities to the Littlbug but also some real differences. This stove does not go together in pieces like the Littlebug plus, it has a fire grate in the bottom unlike the Littlbug. Thanks for commenting

[@Woodswalker1965]

Two fantastic lookng stoves Mark! Light and useful, I like it 👍

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

So light weight and capable. Thanks for commenting Wade

[@twestgard2]

This thing looks amazing.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, they work great. Thanks for commenting

[@jackvoss175]

Try digging a small trench under these stoves. About 1/4 as wide as the stove, longer than the stove width. It aids air flow. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Great suggestion. Thanks for commenting

[@darthkek1953]

Fantastic, not just stoves but the larger one is definitely a fire-pit too. For those who visit the official site, they have some v-shaped "flat" stoves on legs that are intended to "grill" (BBQ skewers) and they look like they'll make EXCELLENT fire-pits. I do hope you help this company "get into" North America, it's nice to see non-Chinese innovative stoves and fire-pits. (And I say this as someone who has bought Chinese too, I'm as guilty as anyone).

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I agree. Great stoves. I see the Chinese have copied the V-shaped stove but not these ones. Thanks for commenting

[@halabujioutdoors]

One you mentioned is 398 model, or bigger 760 model. I almost ordered Chinese copy of 398. Now genuine 398 model is available in Amazon. I'm glad I didn't go for it back then.

[@carmenmartinez2882]

I have them all 😂😂. The 760 (biggest one) I use exclusively as a fire pit is excellent holding regular size wood, interesting the legs don’t get hot thus you can lift it and dispose of the ashes in a safe way. 398 I do BBQ and is a smaller fire pit, it requires more tending to than the 760. Morning coffee is with the 85, fast and furious, lol.Love this stuff. They’re so light and efficient. I car/tent camp so weight is not an issue although they’re light.

[@DrDennis]

Awesome new stoves I have not seen. I don’t know what one to go with. Guess if you use smaller pots I would need the smaller stove? More reviews on these and that Ti pot too buddy. Just received my first ever Tilley T5 canvas hat for my birthday. It’s a keeper.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Could always get both stoves😂. I think for me I would go with the 85 unless you really need the bigger stove. Congrats on the Tilley. You will love it more each year you wear it. Thanks for commenting

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

oops...almost forgot to say Happy Birthday

[@roberthobbs8222]

Hi Mark, I really enjoyed your review of these stoves. I'm going to have to get one.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for commenting

[@johnhoward7298]

There's something about those stoves that remind Me of those Little bug stoves!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, the lightweight circular nature. These are different in that they do not need to be pieced together. More like the Brennerle Hobo Stove. Thanks for commenting

[@plextoob]

Thanks! I was looking for a lighter alternative to our 1200g FireBox which we love. I had considered titanium but a quality Ti in a similar size was over $400 CAD. I just ordered a Picogrill 239 and some accessories direct from STC. Came to just over $200 CAD and will weight around 320g! thanks!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

The Firebox is a good stove for sure but is heavy as you say, even the titanium model is a bit heavy. These stoves are very light as you discovered. I now have two of the larger versions to test out. Thanks for commenting

[@mike_outdoors4918]

I like these, especially the 85, I'll have a look and see if I can get them in the UK. Thanks Mark 👍🙂

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Most welcome. Let me know if they can be purchased in the UK. Thanks for commenting

[@benthere8051]

Those are amazing little stoves. No doubt there will be a North American market.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Apparently, they can be bought on Amazon US. Thanks for commenting

[@jameshakala3940]

How do you like this stove compared to a gasifier type?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I don't see them as similar enough to compare. Both have pros and cons. These are super light and compact. Thanks for commenting

[@jameshakala3940]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft thanks for the fast response.

[@Eastwood-qz5rg]

Those stoves are great! I want both. I just found them on Amazon.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Cool. They are not showing up on Amazon Canada. Thanks for commenting

[@darthkek1953]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Nor Amazon UK.

[@markcummings6856]

Really? They are not knockoffs?

[@Eastwood-qz5rg]

I just got back from a backpacking trip where the Picogrill 85 performed wonderfully! Thanks, Mark, for showing this and all your other stoves.

[@halabujioutdoors]

@@markcummings6856 They do seem genuine. And prices for each of them are very reasonable.

[@bigchief7798]

Awesome video. By the way what oven would you recommend for ultralight backpacking with grandchildren

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed the video. It is difficult to make a specific recommendation ofr one stove that will serve your needs. The Picogrill 85 is a good choice but I would suggest you take a look at my playlist of videos for wood stoves to see of there is another that may be better. Thanks for commenting

[@bigchief7798]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you. I will look.

[@ssos4540]

I would love to see these in the US especially the 85.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

There is a link in the video description that may help. Thanks for commenting

[@Ulversial]

how do you think these compare to the brennerle?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I was hoping someone would ask that. The two stoves share a lot in common and I like them both. I need to make a side by side comparison video. At this point I feel either stove will serve well. Thanks for commenting

[@andymytys]

I like the PicoGrill 85 when I’m trying to go as light as possible. It holds a lot of wood, and is short in stature, so the heat really blasts the pot. If you position the wood correctly, you can get a decent set of coals that don’t fall through the bottom grate too fast and, again, due to the short height of the stove, the heat from the coals simmers for a good 15 minutes. Those hot coals also mean you can throw in a few twigs here and there and they will light up relatively quickly and keep the heat going, but you don’t have to constantly feed the stove like on some other small sized wood burners. This is mainly because it has a massive burn chamber relative to its height. What I don’t like about this stove is the amount of large side holes it has, and how low to the ground they are. If there’s even a little breeze, I’ve found the flames can come out of the stove, horizontally, a surprising distance. This means I’ve really got to make sure the area around the stove is clear of flammable material (always a good idea anyway) and that I’m not sitting too close it it or wearing loose fitting clothes when feeding it wood. It’s a good stove for sure, I’ve just got to be a lot more mindful when using it than, say, the Brennerle.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Good analysis. Along with the extreme lightweight and simplicity of use are a few considerations to maximize its safe and effective use. Thanks for commenting

[@huanpham2618]

I noticed your pot is relatively clean from soot. How do you clean it? The titanium material ?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, as I mentioned in the video, it new pot from Uberleben made from titanium. I have a separate review if interested. Thanks for commenting

[@redoak3809]

Amazon carries this stove. Mark, which one would YOU choose for day hikes?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

According to the company owner the stoves on Amazon are fakes. Please see my pinned comment and video description. Thanks

[@kevinkiem2959]

Thank you great looking stoves

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you like them! Thanks for commenting

[@markcummings6856]

I am intrigued! I do not own a wood burn stove and have always wanted one. Watched many of your videos and other’s, just didn’t know which one. This one however seems to “have it all!” Love how it just collapses, even the bottom. Just brilliant design. Thank you for showing. I don’t understand what you mean by having to find a distributor, though. Anyway, if enough people maybe comment that they are interested, maybe they, can find a distributor.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

It is a great stove design for sure. Issue is the company does not ship to Canada. I found after making this video that they do sell on Amazon US but not Canada. If a company in Canada would add this stove to their line we could buy them more easily here. Thanks for commenting

[@samTollefson]

Mark if you are interested I would buy now, as soon as AMAZON sees a sharp rise in orders it will jack up the price. $20 is low compared to the other "very proud of their stove" sellers.

[@markcummings6856]

@@samTollefson Thanks. And, I agree, that is a steal for that superior stove. I’m on it.

[@ReneMA]

Hi Mark, nice video with a good overview of these stoves. What are your thoughts of these stoves compared to the Brennerle stove?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Great question. I am planning on a comparison as they share a lot in common. At this point I would say the Picrogrill 85 is simpler, not as versatile but cheaper as well. Thanks for commenting

[@ReneMA]

Thanks, it would be interesting to see a comparison between them

[@NorthcoastPatty]

How great is that item for shipping - flat and lightweight!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I agree, unless you live in Canada...shipping is so expensive here😂. Thanks for commenting

[@MichaelR58]

Mark , good initial review , thanks for sharing , God bless !

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you enjoyed. More to come. Thanks for commenting

[@boomshanka8743]

Nice one Mark, cheers! I think the manufacturer will be surprised at the demand for these stoves. I bought one of the first version of the Uberleben stainless kettle a few years ago and ended up returning it. It was designed with a loose nut that a bolt screwed into to secure the handle. I thought it was a terrible design - it was too easy to drop the nut when attaching the handle, and dropping a tiny nut in the forest duff would ruin your whole trip. Did they ever address that?

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I do find the original Kessel nut a bit of a challenge to tighten. I leave the handle in the fixed position as a result. The new one is much better. Thanks for commenting

[@whateman12408]

Mark do you have anymore tests coming for the pico grill 85 or 239

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, I do, but, I have a number of stoves ahead of it I need to test and review. Anything in particular you would like me to cover?

[@whateman12408]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft wind screens. I think a lot of heat is being lost around the pots.

[@waktosha7378]

I really like the pico fire pit grill you reviewed, but at that high price kills it for me.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, I understand. The company owner is now looking for a North American distributer to bring the price down. Thanks for commenting

[@carmenmartinez2882]

Exactly, I ended up getting the ones from Amazon regardless wether they’re original or not. No offense but many KZbin reviewers get them for free but we have to fork our money for it. Got it when it was $19 vs $70. It works great and didn’t brake the bank.

[@jackvoss5841]

Similar to the Littlbug Jr and Sr stoves. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Thanks for commenting

[@mediocreman561]

I've had the 85 for a while now. You can get it on Amazon.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, I learned after making this video that it can be purchased on Amazon US but not in Canada. Thanks for commenting

[@aaronwilcox6417]

I'd love to try the larger version. Much to like about the concept and I like the capacity. I recently picked up a weird name knock off of the Lixada gassifier stove like yours and I'm enjoying it. It can use wood, pellets, alcohol gel, fuel tabs, and my Trangia. I can even sear a steak on it with a grill grate. Thanks for trying these stoves and bringing them to light (no pun intended) so we know whats out there. BTW I've been using Titanium pots and some cookware and it's fine for boiling water even though it has poor conductivity but it's horrible too cook with. I'm going back to my aluminum and stainless kits and the carbon steel skillet. Titanium is a love-hate relationship with me.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Glad you are liking the stove. I agree about titanium. Boiling water or making soups but frying is very hard to do without burning. I really like the hard-anodized aluminum for strength VS weight. The best (I had) is the now out of business Open Country. Would love to find a replacement. Thanks for commenting

[@pedroclaro7822]

Hey mark! I want to remind you that you ended up not doing the video of these using a trangia burner, as you said you would in the video. Did you forget it or drop the idea? Also, would you do me the kindness of measuring the thickness of the steel plates that the stoves use for the walls and ash pan? Only thickness specs I’ve found are for the separate stand which is 0.7mm, and the folded assembled stove which is 4mm. Thanks in advance!!!

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I measure the steel at 0.25mm. I have not forgotten but neither is it a priority for me right now. I have a good number of other videos on my list to make first. Thanks for commenting

[@pedroclaro7822]

Thank you so much!!!

[@jongjoorhee931]

I like them, Mark. Especially the bigger one. Small one would work fine but I tend to use bigger pots and pans. I'll check out their website and find out more of the optional pot stands. You could always use more ventilation in wood burning stoves. It is amazing that the stove could withstand almost 4kg of weight. Appreciate the good info, Mark. I kinda like the Seige Stove, though. It looked tough enough to hold 6+kg.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

You could cook some pretty big meals with this one😉. Thanks for commenting

[@halabujioutdoors]

If you like the bigger one, check out 398 model, which is in different format, but more like a bbq grill.

[@derekcroft2055]

Love the Review Mark.... These stoves remind me an AWFUL lot of the Little Bug Stoves. 👍

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Great stoves. More like the Brennerle Hobo Stove I thought. Thanks for commenting Derek

[@johnhoward3271]

They look like better engineerd little bug stoves .

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

They have some similarities for sure. Thanks for commenting

[@jarjar3143]

Nice for bike packing I'm thinking . Wonder if they'll do a titanium version with a mini top grid ? Just hope people stay away from the Chinese knockoff .

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I agree. Bike packing or any other ultralight use. Yes, it is especially bad when they use the companies name on the product. Thanks for commenting

[@angelafowler508]

I bought one from Amazon 3 months ago for $19.99.

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Yes, I learned it can be bought on Amazon US but not Canada. Thanks for commenting

[@JonHancockUK]

USD19.99? That's quite a bargain! They're CHF67.00 on the manufacturer's sure, which is something like $72.

[@carmenmartinez2882]

@@JonHancockUK I got it too, together with the 398 (different format) and the 760. I knew they’re way more expensive everywhere else and I’m sure they’ll go up on price on Amazon. I like them all, 85 for fast cooking, morning coffee etc, 398 I use for BBQ, steak etc, 760 I only use as fire pit. Yes, I have a camping addiction.🤷‍♀️

[@owenbeglane4851]

The cellophane wrapper with the barcode says made in China

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

I just heard back from the company owner that all Picogrill items on Amazon are fake. Very disappointing. I updated the video title, description and my comment to show this

[@owenbeglane4851]

@@MarkYoungBushcraft I really feel bad I bought both stoves on Amazon I’ve been head

[@sirdee9607]

Cool Thing

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

It truly is. Thanks for commenting

[@iColinCDN]

Great review. Thanks for sharing :-)

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Most welcome. Thanks for commenting

[@jimf1964]

So I’ll throw in 2 criticisms. First is that the reason to have the pot elevated slightly is not just because of the dampening effect, but also so the chimney effect will be directed at the pot bottom. What I see with this is much of the flame goes straight out the feed pot instead. The other criticism is so many Europeans are so stuck up they make me gag. I mean yes we’re a small market, but to say we wouldn’t want an ultra light kit? What uninformed buttheads. That being said, I would think of getting the large, because as you said, it could double as a mini fire place, but the small ones performance didn’t impress me enough to give up my firebox nano

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

You could be right about the chimney effect Jim