Pieper's 7-Barrel Mitrailleuse: Like a Shotgun But Accurate

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@HellbirdIV
@HellbirdIV 5 жыл бұрын
"So, do you want single shot, or a repeater?" Monsieur Pieper: "Oui."
@HellbirdIV
@HellbirdIV 5 жыл бұрын
@@hansstrouf It is "Oui" in Belgian French too, though.
@keistermeister7983
@keistermeister7983 5 жыл бұрын
You did the joke right, congratulations
@bradwhite5352
@bradwhite5352 5 жыл бұрын
HellbirdIV has always happened when the one time oooo
@HellbirdIV
@HellbirdIV 5 жыл бұрын
@@noidontthinksolol And Pieper was from the French half.
@HellbirdIV
@HellbirdIV 5 жыл бұрын
@@noidontthinksolol 1. His name was Henri Pieper. 2. He lived and worked in Herstal. 3. All the material about his manufacturing company is in French. It's almost like there's sources you can look up on the internet to find out these things. littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20p/a%20pieper%20en%20tete%20gb.htm I'm sorry if it offends you, but the guy behind this gun was definitely French Belgian.
@KarlfMjolnir
@KarlfMjolnir 5 жыл бұрын
The gun cost, 70 dollars in around 1880, would be about 1,840 dollars today (for those who were curious).
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 5 жыл бұрын
I think I would pay that much for one. I just have my doubts that the gun could be made at that price without $50,000 of tooling at least.
@nathanielweaver7078
@nathanielweaver7078 5 жыл бұрын
Well, a guy I worked with spent that on a 12 gauge semi, only to shoot it for a season and hate it.
@cardiffpicker1
@cardiffpicker1 5 жыл бұрын
Not that excessive for what you get, would cost more than that to get one of similar quality now.
@chrisneedham5803
@chrisneedham5803 5 жыл бұрын
What would it cost to fire all the barrels at once, today?
@cardiffpicker1
@cardiffpicker1 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisneedham5803 less than 1 round of .308, less than curtis Jackson.
@jlee7811
@jlee7811 5 жыл бұрын
Archeological proof that people have always sought more dakka
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 5 жыл бұрын
Schnapps does funny things to a man.
@davidoftheforest
@davidoftheforest 5 жыл бұрын
DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
@kainezilla3688
@kainezilla3688 5 жыл бұрын
OI DAS RIGHT YA GIT MORE DAKKA TIL DE AIR WE BREEF IS FILLD TO DA BRIM WIT LEAD AND FIYAH!! WAAAAGH
@Lathlan
@Lathlan 5 жыл бұрын
OI, I SEE YOUZ A BOY OF KULTUR AZ WELL!
@nikolassantoro7466
@nikolassantoro7466 5 жыл бұрын
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
@DoitForTheLolz1
@DoitForTheLolz1 5 жыл бұрын
when u gotta snipe but shotguns are life.
@Ravenghast
@Ravenghast 5 жыл бұрын
Sniping's a good job mate
@c1berserker744
@c1berserker744 5 жыл бұрын
725 intensifies
@dobber43
@dobber43 5 жыл бұрын
@@c1berserker744 .357 over intensifies
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 5 жыл бұрын
shotguns ARE life.
@Mossy500A
@Mossy500A 5 жыл бұрын
Shotty-snipes.
@SolarWebsite
@SolarWebsite 5 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to have someone (Taofledermaus, Destin or the Slomo guys come to mind) film this thing firing seven rounds in ultra slow motion? That must look amazing.
@Matt_The_Hugenot
@Matt_The_Hugenot 5 жыл бұрын
It should be possible with the .22 provided it chambers one of the cartridges still available. The .32 would be harder, no one makes .32 rimfire any longer however there are a couple of kits using special reloadable cartridges. All we need to do is to crowd fund several thousand dollars and hope it's not illegal in California so Taofledermaus can film it.
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 5 жыл бұрын
@@Matt_The_Hugenot it would be fun. Fun is specifically outlawed in kalifornia, as it is known to cause cancer.
@edwalmsley1401
@edwalmsley1401 5 жыл бұрын
That would make the O.G's day 😂😂
@1234567890CAB
@1234567890CAB 5 жыл бұрын
I came here to ask the same thing
@deranathonarkantos6712
@deranathonarkantos6712 5 жыл бұрын
Randy Magnum That’s pretty much what I was thinking.
@SnakesRaven
@SnakesRaven 5 жыл бұрын
I'm probably "the odd one out" in the comment section when I say I don't know much about guns, but I really do like the more historical value these vids give me. It's fascinating to see how guns evolved and what people came up with throughout history. Cool stuff.
@grizzly3793
@grizzly3793 5 жыл бұрын
No same here, I'm here for the history. I've only fired a gun once, more of a bow and arrow person xD I hardly know what a bolt is!
@rvanhees89
@rvanhees89 5 жыл бұрын
@@grizzly3793 its what you shoot from a crossbow! :D ;D
@mickeyreder1705
@mickeyreder1705 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome home guys. I'm fascinated by the engineering.
@ajvanmarle
@ajvanmarle 5 жыл бұрын
That's what this show is all about. For technical information on firearms you can find lots of channels, but this amount of historical insight is pretty rare.
@SlyPearTree
@SlyPearTree 5 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see some statistic but I would be surprised if people like you and me are really that rare among this channel's subscribers or even casual watchers. I do know a lot more about guns than when I started watching even if I never handled one since I was a teenager, a 22 rifle under adult supervision. I found shooting fun but I like the history better.
@erniemiller1953
@erniemiller1953 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Pieper picked a peck of puckered pepperboxes.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 5 жыл бұрын
I can't even begin to imagine how much work goes into regulating SEVEN damn barrels...
@2spooky4me96
@2spooky4me96 5 жыл бұрын
I ran into one of these about 20 years ago (.22lr) the old fella who had it said his family had used it for field goose hunting back in the day. I never knew what it was (by name) and neither did he but this solves it. - up here in Canada by the way
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't it use 22long ?
@2spooky4me96
@2spooky4me96 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you are likely right, I didn't fire it or see it fired. It was just shown to me, maybe it could even function with shorts?
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
@@2spooky4me96 i heard some that claimed it used 22 short,others 22 long,i guess it was fine with both. Now,just imagine a modern version in 22 mag.
@2spooky4me96
@2spooky4me96 5 жыл бұрын
Junichiro Yamashita be a great turkey gun lol
@shelbyz1988
@shelbyz1988 5 жыл бұрын
@Junichiro Yamashita unfortunately it wouldn’t be legal to manufacture for commercial sale, in the US anyway. Volley fire is in the same basket as a full blown MG.
@Kar4ever3
@Kar4ever3 5 жыл бұрын
For when you truly possitively want someone to feel some hurt.
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, don't be mean - go .45/70 & everybody gets hurt . . .'Call this one mah bear gun, I'll try it one day.'
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 5 жыл бұрын
I.E. the shooter
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 5 жыл бұрын
For when you truly, positively want someone to eat some goose.
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of damage will be go with it whet it hits his target. I guess pretty devastating results,even with the .22 caliber
@sapateirovalentin348
@sapateirovalentin348 4 жыл бұрын
KRUG SAY YOU WANNA FEEL BIG HURT -the guy who made this gun probably
@srspower
@srspower 5 жыл бұрын
A popular way of extending the range for wildfoul using a ten bore in the UK was to create a wax slug out of the shot and then shoot it in to the water in front of a load of ducks. It would break up showering them with shot at long ranges.
@timd729
@timd729 11 ай бұрын
Who told you this? I never heard this before. I wonder how 12 gauge birdshot wax shells would do if fired into water. Never heard anybody using wax shells that way
@F4Wildcat
@F4Wildcat 5 жыл бұрын
*sees notification on phone about "pieper 7 barrel mitra* Me= what idiot makes a 7 barrel gun?? *opens video and sees his country flag Me= oh...i guess we do...
@Hirosjimma
@Hirosjimma 5 жыл бұрын
Natuurlijk is het een Belgische uitvinding
@jenkinsrooster7152
@jenkinsrooster7152 5 жыл бұрын
Hey you were the guys that gave us, the rest of the world, the concept of "Why get one when you can get two of them, but we wont' stop there, order now and get a THIRD thrown in for free!" etc
@2Potates
@2Potates 5 жыл бұрын
Ik bedoel wie anders?
@undyingUmbrage
@undyingUmbrage 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hirosjimma Zuid-Nederland bedoel je
@nickthompson9697
@nickthompson9697 5 жыл бұрын
If it's dumb but it works, it's not dumb.
@TheDougwoods
@TheDougwoods 5 жыл бұрын
That .22 is absolutely gorgeous even today, I love the grain of the wood, and then the up close look on the metal made me find it even more beautiful than the opening shot did.
@Awoken_Remmuz
@Awoken_Remmuz 5 жыл бұрын
Instantly I thought "well if it's basically meant to act like a shotgun, wonder how effective a double barrel version would be"
@logantc.1353
@logantc.1353 5 жыл бұрын
If it had double the barrels it would probably be real real heavy, but boy would it look cool
@LordSluggo
@LordSluggo 5 жыл бұрын
@chris jackso for when you want to obliterate the broad side of a barn
@pedroamerico9992
@pedroamerico9992 5 жыл бұрын
I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK
@jlee7811
@jlee7811 5 жыл бұрын
You mean a fourteen barrel version?
@JackTalyorD
@JackTalyorD 5 жыл бұрын
14 no no no go the quard barely version 28 barrels. When u want to go fly from recoil.
@YarugumaSou
@YarugumaSou 5 жыл бұрын
Doomguy: *Heavy breathing*
@limpetarch98k
@limpetarch98k 5 жыл бұрын
Also Doomguy: *Fuck it, how about Too Many Super Shotguns ?*
@ArcturusOTE
@ArcturusOTE 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect for those pesky chaingunners and archviles
@kainezilla3688
@kainezilla3688 5 жыл бұрын
DoomSlayer would love to have one but chambered in 12 gauge instead of.22
@IndianaJoe3
@IndianaJoe3 5 жыл бұрын
@@kainezilla3688 They're rifle rounds, so they would be in 5.56 or 7.62.
@about37ninjas
@about37ninjas 5 жыл бұрын
@@IndianaJoe3 nah, .308 probably
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 5 жыл бұрын
The Pieper pepper box. There's a tongue twister to be had.
@TheArgieH
@TheArgieH 5 жыл бұрын
Peppering pushy p(h)easants! Sorry
@BlackcatOutdoors
@BlackcatOutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
Well pieper produced a perfect pair of posh pepper box poppers.
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 5 жыл бұрын
pieper prepped his pepper popper promptly pooty poo. priming pretty purposely he popped his polearm to his solder too. aligning the post and valley, he prepared to pull the pendulum. a paltry push and off it wooshed! in a puff of percussion the projectiles he made flew.
@gfarrell80
@gfarrell80 5 жыл бұрын
@@b.griffin317 well done sir, well done.
@derekkt49
@derekkt49 5 жыл бұрын
If I won the lottery I would start manufacturing modern day versions of this.
@Hubert_Cumberdale_
@Hubert_Cumberdale_ 5 жыл бұрын
Do it in 45 70 just to be mean.
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
I see it more probable in 327 fed mag,or 22 mag. Usable but still strong.
@williamhart4896
@williamhart4896 5 жыл бұрын
17 win mag I'd like to see
@marvininabox
@marvininabox 5 жыл бұрын
It'd be a fun plinker in 22
@Bubben246
@Bubben246 5 жыл бұрын
@CycloneLeadworks Technically, if all the barrels fire at once, it is a "volley gun" and is legal under US law.
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747 5 жыл бұрын
I want to see Paul Harrell test this on the meat target.
@matthewpaine6908
@matthewpaine6908 5 жыл бұрын
Need to get him one first.
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747 5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewpaine6908 Maybe his Patreon can cover it.
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747
@dr.johnpaladinshow9747 5 жыл бұрын
@ I've estimated that a fresh meat target costs about $15.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
@ Never try anything Paul does at home. GO TO THE RANGE!
5 жыл бұрын
@@shawnr771 if my plans work out, the range will be my back yard. fyi, I was using humor, something that not everyone appears to have. like the Harley guys say, "if I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand anyway".
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
YEAH, I cannot believe you listened to me! I have been eyeing this gun for at least a couple of years,i also started a thread on reddit because i want to have made a reproduction of it. I didn't know the 32 cal version was also available in 7 shots,always thought it had 5. THANK YOU IAN!
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
@@sporkstar1911 i was dreaming about one in 220 Swift. Or in 25 06 ,which i heard is a very good hunting round.
@maomaokitty
@maomaokitty 5 жыл бұрын
3:41 And that's how I would have lost the cartridge plate in tall grass.
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 5 жыл бұрын
Don't Go Into The Tall Grass!
@fidjeenjanrjsnsfh
@fidjeenjanrjsnsfh 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe not necessarily because the cases might hold it in place...
@thomasmorgan1433
@thomasmorgan1433 5 жыл бұрын
You would for sure have more than one.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmorgan1433 Well, your man would. This kind of gun wasn't for men who loaded their _own_ guns. :)
@glennsosinske3260
@glennsosinske3260 4 жыл бұрын
Get a very big 🧲. Problem solved.
@thecati008
@thecati008 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine a gatling gun with these guns as the barrels
@crestfallensunbro6001
@crestfallensunbro6001 5 жыл бұрын
That would almost be enough dakka...
@odysseusinspace9704
@odysseusinspace9704 4 жыл бұрын
matthew hurley Never.
@pauladams1829
@pauladams1829 4 жыл бұрын
Lead hosepipe.
@alphagt62
@alphagt62 4 жыл бұрын
He’s said they were “relatively”, light, but they look heavy! Those huge barrels must be dense.
@bigjaytaylor8227
@bigjaytaylor8227 4 жыл бұрын
The Meroka CIWS is 12 barreled, 20 mm cannon used for missile defence on Spanish Navy ships en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meroka_CIWS
@RunDub
@RunDub 4 жыл бұрын
Two of the coolest guns you've ever featured! So neat.
@MichaelZeagler
@MichaelZeagler 5 жыл бұрын
This is something I've thought would be a thing for a long time. I'd really like to have one of these made in modern times to shoot.
5 жыл бұрын
from the muzzle view it looks like a bundle of seven barrels (hence individually regulated barrels) shrouded in a tube. may be lighter than it looks. I liked the rimfire "firing disk", simple and elegant solution to a complex task.
@_7_7_7_7_7_
@_7_7_7_7_7_ 5 жыл бұрын
Wow almost at 1.5 mil! I feel like you hit 1 mil about a year ago congrats!
@ericn7677
@ericn7677 5 жыл бұрын
Those are some beautiful pieces. You know a lot of craftsmanship went into creating these. It's too bad that they couldn't select single barrel firing but I suppose that's not what they had in mind.
@troy9477
@troy9477 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. Never heard of these. Definitely a niche market. The cartridge plate makes a lot of sense. Assumedly it was possible to carry extra plates in a pouch of some sort, like a speedloader or moon clip. I imagine the first volley would spook the birds, but it would still be a good idea to reload quickly and keep walking. A modern version in a centerfire like .223 would be interesting, but for what practical purpose i do not know. Regulating the barrel assembly would be time consuming and expensive. But with today's precise line boring methods, maybe it would not be necessary? Still a lot of work just to blast side by side water jugs at 50 or 100 yards. Anyway, great video as always. Thank you
@tomsmith3045
@tomsmith3045 4 жыл бұрын
This was great to see. I love old things, love old guns, and weird old guns are fascinating.
@sqeeye3102
@sqeeye3102 5 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating and beautiful firearm. I wonder why the idea wasn't more popular. I'm also curious about the recoil. Thank you for the great video, as usual.
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 5 жыл бұрын
Speculating a bit about the recoil... The .22 version probably doesn't have that bad of a recoil. The barrels alone adds a lot of weight and the rest of the rifle is certainly chunky with nothing but steel and wood. Light metals were not often used for firearms at this time, and there were no polymers (AFAIK) so it will have some nice weight to offset the seven barrels. The 32 might have a bit more kick to it though, and I think that you probably do not want to go to far up in caliber or power before it gets uncomfortable. Thoughts on my musings?
@fensoxx
@fensoxx 5 жыл бұрын
Top 5 coolest firearms you’ve shown. And that’s saying something. It would be very very cool to see these shot.
@supersonicbros23
@supersonicbros23 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what it'd be like to have a modern version of this. "The Chiappa Beehive; From here to there in 7 shots. At once."
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 Жыл бұрын
Like the Triple Threat but bigger.
@barrylinkiewich9688
@barrylinkiewich9688 5 жыл бұрын
The stock on that .22 is gorgeous, those brindle stripes just add so much character.
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 5 жыл бұрын
"And that's how the food industry worked"
@jerbid_
@jerbid_ 3 жыл бұрын
I took a second wondering why they're in such small cartridges before I immediately remembered that this chambered in something like 45 Colt would probably blow your shoulder off
@LordRaa
@LordRaa 5 жыл бұрын
Two thoughts at seeing this. 1) Would it work in .38? 2) Would it work as a cavalry carbine?
@NutjobGTO
@NutjobGTO 3 жыл бұрын
1:21 is where Ian's gun-knowledge experience matches up with the insanity that is my experience with modern trucking
@matth7448
@matth7448 5 жыл бұрын
It wouldve been fun to be a hunter back in the day
@ifell3
@ifell3 5 жыл бұрын
Really liked how the firing control works on this, especially the trigger guard and breech.
@dlwoxford
@dlwoxford 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Sharpe and Sgt. Harper would approve of this video
@johnkelinske1449
@johnkelinske1449 5 жыл бұрын
Intended for waterfowl pass shooting at high flying birds. The French made the similar 3 barrel "Buffalo Stand" in .22 Long Rifle at MAS. The latter is rare in USA, last one I saw for sale went for over $4000.
@il6993
@il6993 5 жыл бұрын
Me: How many barrels would you like? Pieper: Yes
@andrewamann8855
@andrewamann8855 5 жыл бұрын
You: *presents gun...* Pieper: not enough barrels...
@il6993
@il6993 5 жыл бұрын
Me: *Visible confusion
@toaster9922
@toaster9922 5 жыл бұрын
“ALL OF THEM!”
@brucelee3388
@brucelee3388 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen a photo of a 'Remington Goose Gun' - 7 x .22RF, no loading plate - allegedly made by Remington for the US market on a fairly standard rolling block action.
@oneleggyboi
@oneleggyboi 5 жыл бұрын
that 70 dollars back then was definitely worth it considering how beautiful they are 140 some odd years later.
@vickdeweo4288
@vickdeweo4288 5 жыл бұрын
Great camera work. You are really getting nice work. They look great.
@SeraphinaPZ
@SeraphinaPZ 5 жыл бұрын
When it's the 19th century and you need to deal with 40 to 50 feral hogs.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
Shooting .22 s at hogs is pretty much a waste of time unless you can hit them in the head and have enough velocity to penetrate the skull. Not sure .22 Long Rifle was a thing in 1898 so relegated to Long and Shorts. They certainly did not have CCI minimags. The .32 version might be a little better but still probably have to be a head shot for a kill. At the this weapon came out my choice for hogs would be a lever action 30 30. Would not want to mess around with anything smaller and in case you missed this rifle is not exactly reloadable quickly.
@rayg.2431
@rayg.2431 5 жыл бұрын
With those two calibers, more like "pissing off 40 to 50 feral hogs"... I'll stick with waterfowl, thanks :)
@herknorth8691
@herknorth8691 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a thing sorta kinda like this back in 2013 that was an insert for a 40mm grenade launcher. You would put 7 rounds (I think?) of .22LR in the insert then load the insert like a standard grenade into the launcher. Firing the launcher would shoot seven .22 bullets from individually rifled barrels. I remember the timeline because the joke someone made back in 2013 was that a 40mm grenade was probably cheaper and easier to find than seven rounds of .22LR back then.
@kyleclark4449
@kyleclark4449 5 жыл бұрын
The modern version of this is some twit opening up on some geese with a full-auto American 180.
@oso1165
@oso1165 5 жыл бұрын
what?
@claycarmine7466
@claycarmine7466 5 жыл бұрын
Wait what?
@RalphReagan
@RalphReagan 5 жыл бұрын
My wife wants an American 180
@claycarmine7466
@claycarmine7466 5 жыл бұрын
@@RalphReagan ...What?
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 5 жыл бұрын
Letting loose a hive of angry bees!
@richardtaylor6300
@richardtaylor6300 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking I saw one of those guns at the Remington Arms Museum at the factory in Illion NY. That museum has a little bit of everything from Remington production guns to Chinese hand cannon and large bore guns from the 17th century. If you haven't visited the museum I highly recommend it if you're ever in the Illion NY area. I did some contract work for a company I worked for that built CNC machines and installed a few of them at the factory back in the late 80's. The museum is in the factory complex.
@parodyclip36
@parodyclip36 5 жыл бұрын
"Manufacture d'armes de st Etienne" is the company that made the famas( Fusil d'Assaut de la Manufacture d'Armes de St Etienne) and other french weapon like lebel rifle, chassepot and gras
@aj1986917
@aj1986917 4 жыл бұрын
I'm like, positive he knows that
@loicneyraval779
@loicneyraval779 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Saint Étienne in France, and i love to see weapons of my city in your video Vive forgotten weapons et vive la France
@TheEnginator
@TheEnginator 5 жыл бұрын
Must be for pretty big birds. I can't imagine what it would look like after multiple .22 caliber projectiles have hit a quail but also a rabbit or a hare.
@bloodvue
@bloodvue 5 жыл бұрын
Its for professional hunters shooting into a flock of large birds at a large distance, multiple birds at once.
@BlitzkreigWTF
@BlitzkreigWTF 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I think I have a new invention, Ian shows me it was already done 100 years ago.
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 5 жыл бұрын
I want to see it patterend at 100 yards. I bet there is some aerodynamic interference from bullet to bullett that causes scatter.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting thought.
@paulo9670
@paulo9670 5 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing. Even the muzzle blast of several projectiles in close proximity may effect the external ballistics and thereby degrade accuracy. Wonder if this possible effect played into how the gunsmith regulated the barrels to achieve optimal accuracy.
@addicted2everythingnothing496
@addicted2everythingnothing496 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and the way you deliver the info
@markhendel9321
@markhendel9321 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that shot any Target to see the accuracy pattern
@azalinprime
@azalinprime 5 жыл бұрын
For everyone asking about US legality today: Volley fire guns are not considered machine guns under the NFA. The machine gun definition is more nuanced than "any gun that fires more than one projectile with a single trigger pull."
@StevieB8363
@StevieB8363 5 жыл бұрын
Question: since this fires seven rounds with one trigger pull, does that count as a 'machine gun' under US law? IIRC the two-barreled Colt .45 has that limitation.
@jamesbizs
@jamesbizs 5 жыл бұрын
StevieB8363 no
@A.F.M.B.1234
@A.F.M.B.1234 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of these put on a range, fixed in place and then fired at multiple ranges, to see how consistent the pattern is...
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 5 жыл бұрын
Gunfucious say "Double the barrel, double the fun." These nice looking guns go way beyond. Wonder if the .22 could handle modern rounds?
@brucebaxter6923
@brucebaxter6923 5 жыл бұрын
Well, there is long rifle, long, short and acorn It has to handle acorn at least
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 5 жыл бұрын
@DeVon Taruex you never know though, back then companies often just used plain iron. not exactly built for high pressures
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of damage will be go with it when it hits his target. I guess pretty devastating results,even with the .22 caliber
@bvcxz47
@bvcxz47 5 жыл бұрын
my brother owned one for about a week ,after some cleaning and a closer inspection it was determined that all of the chambers were cracked .the guns were made by inserting 7 small diameter barrels into a tube then apparently silver soldering them together . so the chamber walls were on the thin side.the guy he bought it from reluctantly bought it back , so if anyone happens to find one for sale check it for cracked chambers.
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost Жыл бұрын
Secretly designed to kill monsters.
@MaximeThatsMe
@MaximeThatsMe 5 жыл бұрын
This gun should be added to Hunt: Showdown...
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 5 жыл бұрын
Shoots the Butcher. Looks up. Oh no!
@Spike-13
@Spike-13 5 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!
@ManiacMoomin
@ManiacMoomin 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Would it be compact or medium ammo?
@CatTechSupport
@CatTechSupport 2 жыл бұрын
@@ManiacMoomin people would complain it into special ammo.
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire
@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 5 жыл бұрын
For the hobbyist machinist / home gun maker, making a rifle with 7 chambers and rifled barrels out of a single piece of steel would be difficult, but an alternative could be made that would work as good, although the barrel assembly would be a bit heavier. You can buy raw barrels from companies like Green Mountain Rifle Barrel Company. If you bought 7 of them and arranged 6 of them around the 7th and then put a machined band on the front and rear to hold the assembly together, you would have the same thing and in fact, it would be even stronger since you would not have a thin chamber wall on the outer portion of the chamber. They have barrels that will handle up to a 10mm round in 1" diameter. The ones for .22LR are also 1" in diameter. Arranging those into a pattern of 6 around a 7th in the center would result in a total diameter of 3". The barrels vary a bit on prices, but $50 each would be a good estimate, resulting in a barrel assembly of $350. By my calculations, a 16" barrel for a .357 mag round would weigh around 3.109 lbs, giving a total 7-barrel weight of 21.765 lbs. And that doesn't even count the additional weight of the breech, stock, and bands to keep the barrels together. not exactly something that I would want to be hiking through the woods with while hunting. :) Now, if I was a machinist by trade, I would be definitely tempted to build such a rifle, just for bragging rights. You gotta admit, having a .357 rifle that could have up to 11,000 ft-lbs of muzzle energy gives you a bit of bragging rights.
@morelenmir
@morelenmir 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say the Knox gun is probably pretty well known as Sergeant Harper's gun in the Sharpe stories.
@connorkilpatrick6283
@connorkilpatrick6283 5 жыл бұрын
At last someone knows Sharpe and the Knox.
@alltimelow2345
@alltimelow2345 5 жыл бұрын
God save Ireland! LOUDER FILTH! GOD SAVE IRELAND! SAY IT!
@morelenmir
@morelenmir 5 жыл бұрын
@@connorkilpatrick6283 I loved those books--and for that matter the Bolitho stories as well.
@morelenmir
@morelenmir 5 жыл бұрын
@@alltimelow2345 Daragh O'Malley was brilliant in that role. Perfect casting.
@alltimelow2345
@alltimelow2345 5 жыл бұрын
morelenmir he really was! I just binged watch the entire series last week. You can watch it on amazon Prime if you pay extra for Brit box. Well worth it to see the Royal green jackets and the south Essex kicking ass!
@Face2theScr33n
@Face2theScr33n 4 жыл бұрын
Doc Brown actually made this in 1885, but as a time traveller, he was unable to take the credit.
@damiangrouse4564
@damiangrouse4564 5 жыл бұрын
Out of the factory? It’s “gorgeous” now.
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 5 жыл бұрын
Wanna perforate a pheasant, but it's placed too far away? The Pieper pepper-pot rifle is gonna make your day!
@InbredJed82060
@InbredJed82060 5 жыл бұрын
It saddens me no company take risks like this anymore
@xannymanny9754
@xannymanny9754 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Wakefield facts but I think it’s because we’ve developed such reliable mechanisms there’s not really a need too
@alexm566
@alexm566 Жыл бұрын
​@@xannymanny9754it's more about the laws too I guess. Similar thing with cars.
@TheGearhead222
@TheGearhead222 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always, Ian!:)-John in Texas
@b1ff
@b1ff 5 жыл бұрын
Should probably call it a “shifle”, for shotrifle.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 5 жыл бұрын
To the dozens of comments asking about the legal nature of this firearm. In the USA, volley fire is not considered a machine gun. So you could easily manufacture one in the USA for sale with the proper license. If it's for personal use, if you're legal to own guns, there's absolutely no issues. There are volley fire guns for sale in the USA currently.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 5 жыл бұрын
stdgun.com/s333-thunderstruck/ - case in point. Completely legal for anyone who can legally own a handgun in the USA.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 5 жыл бұрын
Except for states that have a approved handgun registry and limit models. But that's not NFA. That's California being crazy.
@LeArquebus
@LeArquebus 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect for my steampunk warrior scientist.
@hecklerundkochhk416
@hecklerundkochhk416 3 жыл бұрын
And Rip n Tear some demons
@pauladams1829
@pauladams1829 4 жыл бұрын
Love to see one of those shoot into a ballistic gel block. Some kind of quick repeating/automatic version would be interesting.
@turbowolf302
@turbowolf302 5 жыл бұрын
So, question. What would these transfer under? A normal 4473, or since they're pre-1898, do you just take it home, or since one trigger pull fires more than one round, does it count as an NFA item? I'm genuinely curious.
@halo7oo
@halo7oo 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think federal law would even recognize this as a firearm considering it's pre 1898 and black powder.
@kiloalphasierra
@kiloalphasierra 5 жыл бұрын
The questions is would you have to register a modern reproduction as an NFA item?
@painmagnet1
@painmagnet1 5 жыл бұрын
@@halo7oo Should be smokeless by that date.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 5 жыл бұрын
Volley fire doesn't fall under NFA restrictions.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
@@halo7oo It is not black powder. It takes rimfire .22 and .32.
@daltongarrett7117
@daltongarrett7117 3 жыл бұрын
damn, I would pay a pretty penny for a modern remake in 22 or maybe 9mm
@JimFortune
@JimFortune 5 жыл бұрын
Did you pick a pair of Piepers?
@donpaterson4476
@donpaterson4476 5 жыл бұрын
You had to do it
@JimFortune
@JimFortune 5 жыл бұрын
@@donpaterson4476 At least I didn't say "to put on display"
@Erpyrikk
@Erpyrikk 4 жыл бұрын
someone needs to reproduce this with 410 compatible chambers.
@loosemoose4134
@loosemoose4134 5 жыл бұрын
So could you load the .22 caliber one up with modern ammo and have it function?
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly .22 Long Rifle was introduced in 1884.
@agoogleaccount2861
@agoogleaccount2861 5 жыл бұрын
22 shorts would probably run real close in velocity to the .22 long cartridges of the era
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
@@agoogleaccount2861 They used to have a .22 Long.
@roelantverhoeven371
@roelantverhoeven371 4 жыл бұрын
fun fact, the pieper company also designed the very first hybrid car... for the Belgian Imperia car branch in the early 1900's
@lovessniping
@lovessniping 5 жыл бұрын
DoomGuy saw this and the deathmetal started.
@zakazany1945
@zakazany1945 5 жыл бұрын
Someone should make this into a mod for GZDoom
@joeyuzwa891
@joeyuzwa891 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a gun like this in Doom
@JeSsSe66
@JeSsSe66 3 жыл бұрын
That decorative texture on the receiver and barrel appears to be Guilloché. Very, very nice! Extremely time consuming process
@fuzer909
@fuzer909 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine breaking into someone's house and the owner uses either of these for self defense. I picture massive damage to the criminal.
@polomat14
@polomat14 5 жыл бұрын
and speedloaders/moonclips as reloads :D
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
It is basically a single shot shotgun, where each pellet is bigger,heavier and has its own propellant charge.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 5 жыл бұрын
It's roughly equivalent to a standard double-ought Buck charge if two pellets miss. Or a standard number four buck load if 30 of the pellets miss.
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 5 жыл бұрын
@@GunFunZS with its traditional loads,imagine one in modern calibers,like 22 mag.
@itatane
@itatane 5 жыл бұрын
"It shredded the pork steak pectorals, made a golf ball sized hole right through the ribs, decimated our orange lung tissue and made it through to about the second or third layer of fleece."
@max333463
@max333463 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice stock and action. Impressive technology for its time.
@zebuking4651
@zebuking4651 5 жыл бұрын
"intended to be a long range equivalent or replacement to a shotgun" Was there a 'side-by-side' or 'over-under' 'double volley gun', intended to be a long range equivalent or replacement to a double barreled shotgun? A double-seven-barreled-volley-gun, imagine.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Video coming. ;)
@InquisitorJack
@InquisitorJack 5 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons God Be Praised!
@roadsweeper1
@roadsweeper1 5 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons What!!!! they actually made a double barreled version of this??? Please tell me its still in working order! :)
@painmagnet1
@painmagnet1 5 жыл бұрын
Drooling over this one. I'll take the .22, please!
@1804unclesam
@1804unclesam 5 жыл бұрын
49 views, 46 comments and 412 likes.... that’s funnily awesome. Oh and this thing is really cool.
@kokadosh8763
@kokadosh8763 5 жыл бұрын
Huh. About to have supper and luck would have it, Gun Jesus decided to bless us with another great vid. Thanks Gun Jesus
@MrMisterDerp
@MrMisterDerp 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine the poor sob in the factory that had to get all 7 barrels going exactly parallel, no thank you!
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
He wasnt poor. His was master craftsman who probably got paid very very well for his work. People with that level of skill get paid or they go find another job.
@MrMisterDerp
@MrMisterDerp 5 жыл бұрын
Shawn R oh dear god, not literally poor, what you’ve never heard that expression?
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrMisterDerp Yes I have but someone that skilled enjoys it.
@robbiemer8178
@robbiemer8178 5 жыл бұрын
"Exactly parallel" would probably have lead to the worker being let go from the job. The guns barrels were precisely "regulated", and I would guess that means that the center barrel is what the other barrels were regulated to--meaning those six are each very slightly angled in toward the center. That is a guess on my part about which barrel would be the primary, but it seems like the easiest way to go. Maybe the top barrel was the starting point and the others were regulated to that one.
@MrMisterDerp
@MrMisterDerp 5 жыл бұрын
rob biemer thought the same thing at first but it dawned on me, at one point, all 7 rounds will collide at some distance based on what angle they were drilled
@twobrotherscycleanda
@twobrotherscycleanda 5 жыл бұрын
I remember being a kid and seeing these on an episode of "Young Riders".
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 5 жыл бұрын
$70 huh? Well since their used I’ll give you $40 each for them. That .22 is gonna go for a small fortune.
@mugglepower
@mugglepower 5 жыл бұрын
this looks like something to hunt vampires with
@kutamsterdam
@kutamsterdam 5 жыл бұрын
The Belgian's name is pronounced as "peeper" my dear Ian.👍
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 5 жыл бұрын
😊👍
@thiesvanderkooij8421
@thiesvanderkooij8421 4 жыл бұрын
The last step towards the punt gun
@danielsankey8786
@danielsankey8786 5 жыл бұрын
god save ireland
@T3hderk87
@T3hderk87 5 жыл бұрын
Pieper, for when there is a particularly aggressive squad of squirrels 200 yards distant that is threatening your home.
@zerofail13
@zerofail13 5 жыл бұрын
First American Comment
@GunsGuy1990
@GunsGuy1990 5 жыл бұрын
That's so cool. Very clever shotgun like rifle.
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian .
@andyd2960
@andyd2960 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like this would be a practical hunting gun even today. I really want one.
@camelthegamer7165
@camelthegamer7165 5 жыл бұрын
What a handsome couple of guns.
@AmerAhmad
@AmerAhmad 6 ай бұрын
The Nawab of Bahawalpur ( now part of Pakistan) Sadiq the IV , bought two of these in .320 rim fire. The guns are serial number 303 and 304. I don't have exact date of manufacture.
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