"The War of 1812, Battle of Stoney Creek", as described from Burlington Heights and the Battlefield

[@waynedeadder664]

Best description I’ve found online

[@PierreRepooc]

Many thanks. The British encampment on Burlington Heights and that the earth works that still exist are not well known. Glad you enjoyed.

[@MadeGreatCanadianMedia]

Ty for the video! Cheers

[@PierreRepooc]

You’re welcome, glad you enjoyed.

[@JP89SE3]

I searched for an overview of the battle here after listening to Billy Green by Stan Rogers. The brilliant lyrics in that song made me look Billy Green up and hence the Battle of Stoney Creek. A great summary, thanks!

[@PierreRepooc]

Thanks Joe. I knew little about Billy Green but your comments prompted me to look him up and Stan Roger's song. So thank you too. My video composition was prompted by my knowing that few people knew of the existence of a Fort Burlington Heights and that it still existed today...in the Hamilton cemetery of all places.

[@zackwaffen9210]

Really enjoyed this video Pierre. I grew up in that area, but never knew the history. I think this summer I will go and take a look at the place we defeated America at. Appreciate it, thank you.

[@PierreRepooc]

Many people are aware of the Battle at Stoney Creek but very few are aware that the earthen works built by the British regulars on Burlington Heights still exist and are now part of the old Hamilton cemetery. And thank you for your kind comments.

[@PuffKitty]

Came here from Rescue Mediums and feel kind of shallow compared to the knowledgeable comments 😌 but I stayed for the whole talk and really enjoyed learning about my joint Canadian-American heritage!

[@PierreRepooc]

Kelly J Jackson Interesting comment.

[@PierreRepooc]

Glad you enjoyed.

[@terrywhelan6651]

General Dearborn's express dispatch arrived at 10:30am. Colonel Burns ordered the boats that had just arrived at 6:00pm the night before back to the Forts with all hadte. They arrived late that night of June 6th at the 2 Mile Creek. Sorry the raid at Stoney Creek was only a delaying action to but time for Commodore Yeo's fleet to arrive. They were delayed due to a lack of wind. P.S. Billy Green is a fictional story as is Laura Secord. General Vincent was stationed at a pickett at Big River!!! I just found out that at 6:00am General Dearborn sent a telegraph via 6 batteaux from Fort George which took 40 minutes to reach Colonel Burn's which ordered him to return to the forts with all haste. It now makes 100% sense as Yeo's vanguard fleet was only 15 miles off. The Battle of Stoney Creek was unnecessary but was a great propaganda bonus to motivate the inhabitants for Provost. now we know.

[@terrywhelan6651]

They sailed within an hour of Dearborn's express dispatch arriving at 10:30am arriving at the 2 mile creek later that evening of June 6th. Colonel Burns ordered the retreat with the remaining 2,400 men to the 40 where the batteaux boats would come back to assist the next morning. At 5:00pm on the 7th General Lewis arrived by batteaux as did 3 British ships. They attacked the batteaux boats the next morning who left their tents etc... on the shore as 5 boats were disabled.

[@CanadianGooseWithagun]

Omg that’s so close to my naval reserve unit

[@PierreRepooc]

Yes you are right on. Amazing the connection over the 200 years of history.

[@jefferyyoung2580]

My mother is moving to stoney creek

[@PierreRepooc]

Great place to live. I’m sure you will want to visit the Devil’s Punchbowl, a beautiful waterfall overlooking Stoney Creek.

[@terrywhelan6651]

Wrong. It was a raid, not a battle. 890 British against 1280 Yanks. The Yanks were ordered back by General Dearborn at Fort George because Commodore Yeo's 14 ship fleet appeared off of York at first light on June 6th. He was worried that they would sail over and attack the undermanned forts so he ordered Milton's 240 Rifflemen, Burns 2nd Troop of Light Dragoons and 500 of Chandler's Battalion to sail back asap. There were 40 batteaux and 7 schooners and gun boats at the mouth of Stoney Creek.

[@terrywhelan6651]

Not true the earthen works were built in October 1813 after Proctor was defeated. the Battle of Stoney Creek did not route the Yanks it was the appearance of Yeo's vanguard of 5 Schooner which appeared on the morning of June 6th. The raid on the Yankees cantonment at the Gage farm was successful capturing the 2 Generals Chandler & Winder but it ended with Burn's Light Dragoons. and Milton's Riflemen routing the British nearly 2 miles West of the Big Creek where General Vincent was stationed at a tavern. Sorry you have it all wrong! You are preaching the British propaganda of the time not the truth. At least you didn't mention sure fictional characters as Billy Green!

[@PierreRepooc]

+Terry Whelan Thank you for your insight into an engagement that took place over a hundred years ago.

[@terrywhelan6651]

+Pierre Repooc General Vincent received an express dispatch from Whitby that reported Yeo's fleet was floundering with the lack of wind making little headway. Vincent had been hopeful that he would appear with his 14 ships before the Yanks would advance on Burlington Heights. General Vincent set up a defense position not at Burlington Heights but behind the swamp of Coots Paradise near Dundas Mills. General Vincent new once Yeo's arrived the Yanks would have to return to Fort George to defend it or a force landing behind him cutting him off as all supplies came by water. The raid at Gages farm was a delaying rearguard tactic not a battle in the true sense. The War of 1812-1814 was all about control of the waterways. Whomever controlled the lake won the day. Commodore Yeo's and General Vincent were in constant communication via express dispatch. It was the lack of wind that made the raid at the Yanks left flank necessary, a rearguard tactic with a planned retreat.

[@PierreRepooc]

Again, thank you for your comments.

[@tdpay9015]

Wow, Terry, you're riding several hobby horses. Your obsession with downgrading the battle to a raid is downright weird, and not reflected in the scholarly literature. If naval power was all that mattered, why did the Americans even venture out of Fort George by land? You're dishonest about Billy Green's existence - the revisionism of journalist James E. Elliott has been discredited, and Green's role has been verified based on British and American officers' correspondence.

[@k.s.333]

The plaque simply says that the ramparts were built during the war. Not sure if there's a record of when they were specifically constructed but it stands to reason if the British knew the Americans were advancing they would have prepared defenses. You have to remember that there many hundreds of men at this location and if they had sufficient tools probably could probably have thrown up the rampart within a day or two. It could have been lower at first and then "improved" later. Interestingly the Americans later landed on the beach strip with the intention sending a detachment in boats across Burlington bay to attack the British on the heights. They reportedly could see an "entrenchment" on the "front" side of the encampment. This would have been prior to October 1813.