Pig does the "AFK strat" but there is one problem... | Dead by Daylight

[@asyashi_]

afk pig strat kill probability (assuming they don't bother 99ing gens): 0 kills: 32% 1 kill: 42% 2 kills: 21% 3 kills: 5% 4 kills: 0.4%

[@anonymousname426]

How did you get this information?

[@6powersofM]

@@anonymousname426 Math. And he's right. I calculated it myself too and came to the same results.

[@NinjaPickle]

So really, you're just better off not even doing it, at most you're getting 2 kills every 4 games.

[@Furfire]

@@NinjaPickle people do it for fun

[@RanomTrixie]

​@@Furfire Ah yes, fun. Fun of not playing the game of dbd and instead rolling 4 4-sided dice in an attempt of getting a dopamine rush when you hit a 0.4%

[@arzorark6649]

Imagine playing AFK Pig, Videotape, NOED, and still manage to end the game with a 0K Very good play from the Survs

[@Baileeeeeyyy]

Very revealing as to the type of players that use this build haha, how do you mess up that bad?

[@GatoEpico]

time to delete the game it seems

[@xornedge8204]

I like how everyone is talking shit about an endgame build but are the first to jump to defend a second chance build on survivors.

[@Кинокультист]

@@xornedge8204 People just don't like AFK pig because it is the least fun and fair strategy in the game

[@cezarsoba]

@@Кинокультист next to afk bubba and basement trapper/hag(which both take luck, since you need strong basements on strong maps, and the knowledge about basement trapper/hag)

[@StarlessSupernova]

Pig at the start: oh yeah, it’s all coming together. Pig at the end: oh no, it’s all falling apart.

[@broadbandislife]

"I'm a genius!"/"Oh no!"

[@leazeejune8453]

The problem is: Otz is the survivor, not the killer

[@lcdream4213]

otz is not otz

[@fourtysix4646]

To fix the strat switch the add on where they can’t see the box to the add on that makes 10seconds disappear after a gen pops, just get to a box fast and it doesn’t matter if they know where they are you are playing a rng game anyway. There fixed for all pigs

[@howtohideabody2845]

666 likes

[@TogTeg]

@LCDream "Baba is not Baba"

[@Infernahlia]

Don’t worry this is not Otz

[@headrush8535]

Hello, friends. This is Otz, the famous Elden Ring streamer, and today I'm teaching you about Dead By Daylight.

[@DariusD-fg3uj]

Other way around

[@PurpV12]

​@@DariusD-fg3ujthat was the joke

[@darkos1012]

4:47 That Jill play was so fucking insane, I can't believe you guys not only embarrased and destroyed that Pig, but utterly humiliated it xD Incredible

[@Chuckvsfrank1232]

I did this the other day and got 3 people who all needed the 1 box

[@georg3besti3]

@@Chuckvsfrank1232 hobby u shud get then chad

[@Chuckvsfrank1232]

@@georg3besti3 your hobby is KZbin comments

[@SamHoward-l9q]

@@georg3besti3 gaming is a hobby you fucking fool. Also. *you should get a hobby Chud. The Chud part might be wrong though.

[@CoolJoshido212]

as someone who hasn’t played in 3 years since the free weekend, what exactly did she do? did sliding on the pallet cancel the pick up?

[@Nzlaten]

You know what I love about this game? When survivors destroy sleazy killers or vice versa just amazing

[@gabesworld3188]

sleazy?

[@ThatsPrettyFunnyMan]

Yea no matter which side you main, if you do that kinda shit, I'm always up for you to get fkd over. If I'm a surv, seeing a scummy surv, I might just risk getting reported for sandbagging.

[@chaosflash912]

@@ThatsPrettyFunnyMan Yes. It's one of the greatest feelings in this game.

[@skelyue3811]

Its a meme build and strat. Its funny lmao

[@gabesworld3188]

@@skelyue3811 Yeah wtf are people on about. Someone plays away you don't like and so now its scummy and sleazy. I hope the people that think afk pig is so bad keep it consistent with the survivor equivalent like flashlight locker saves and forcing DS/BT body blocks.

[@jellymaine5858]

I had a pig do this. Thought she had my box so we just 99'd every gen. Realised I missed a box and got my trap off. Popped five gens at once and got out. The panic that pig must've felt lmao.

[@scottwpilgrim]

Afk pigs don't have feelings, what do you mean? 😂

[@dam9743]

i'm new so tbh i don't rly get how the box works, you have to use 4 boxes to remove the trap? and she's afk as long as there is still one person still trappe or that multiple generators are finished?

[@jellymaine5858]

@@dam9743 You only need one box to get your trap off but it'll be random, so you just gotta try boxes until you find the one that is "yours". So if she happens to be blocking the box you need then you're in trouble. The timer for your trap starts counting down once a gen completes.

[@jellymaine5858]

@@dam9743 And yeah as long as one person is still trapped she will probably stay afk until that person dies from the trap because it's a zero effort kill. It's a pretty distasteful way to play.

[@thatleonsexykennedy]

I actually wanted to do this when I found out about it, but there was gonna be a twist where I brought BPS and oinked at anyone with an active trap but I'm pretty sure this might happen so my piggy presents might not go well lmfao. It's way funnier pretending to be mean then plot twisting the end, I got the idea from this streamer who liked our chases so he pretended to hook me then started moonwalking [as Myers] towards hatch LOL

[@zamanovrus]

I’ve faced that strategy once, we all was solo, but managed to 99 all gens and then I with trap was lucky to get a hatch 😀 endgame chat was so funny

[@joshuawatts9991]

And then you woke up. Jkjk that feels so surreal to have a solo queue team who all can cooperate

[@lonelylumine1134]

Ima have to doubt this, cause Solo Q teammates would never work so well

[@soloh8r]

@@lonelylumine1134 Guess you don't play with soloq warriors then, these homies are the real ones. To hell and back types

[@enzobalboa3695]

@@soloh8r We dont have the same solo queue teammates…

[@therealhokageyondaime]

You probably was the ace... in farm?

[@chapinero017]

That CJ flashlight save was NEXT LEVEL lol

[@VenomSWR]

Fun fact : I had a game like this on Yamaoka. All 4 traps were gone in like a minute, and the killer DC'd after that lmao

[@avrandlane2735]

fun isn't its what the game is turning into, killers don't want to chase cat and mouse anymore i don't blame them loop locations are absurd and you have bad survivors thinking they're good but the game system itself is broken and survivors are just playing with it, just like this pig did as well nothing wrong with it. just like terrible hook locations and survivors go in the corner or up stairs. killers have to deal with way way more broken/unbalanced issues.

[@VenomSWR]

@@avrandlane2735 Uh..... I get what you're saying man, and I kinda agree, however that wasn't the point of this ? AFK Pig is litterally "get kills not moving", it's litterally the opposite of trying to play the game normally. I get the game is getting frustratingly hard, but it's not unplayable either. It's not "Go AFK or get 4 escapes", you know ?

[@osoroshi9984]

@@avrandlane2735 tell me you're a killer main without telling me you're a killer main

[@Vazmezvez]

@@avrandlane2735 Average killer main complaining about a killer sided game not realizing it. There is a reason hug tech is gonna be gone and they are reworking maps to make them more fair.

[@xornedge8204]

@@avrandlane2735 I agree with this but not the AFK part. If she was playing it normally it would simply be a just another end game build. But AFK builds can be a bit of a problem so I think maybe some type of penalty should be put in if either side AFKs anywhere for over 2 minutes and the issue would be solved. Pallet spawns being fucking ridiculous I 100% agree with though.

[@moopleaf]

my and my friends actually did this strat a week or two ago! we expected her to use NOED and go after people at the end so I could go take my hat off, but she was still AFK at the end because we bored her to death by taking 20ish minutes to 99 every gen lmao

[@Hirotoro4692]

Given that it takes 79s to 99 a generator and you chose to 99 7 of them, how did it take 20 minutes? Lol

[@podstepmistrzem8200]

@@Hirotoro4692 looting all chests, cleansing all totems, standing in front of the killer, probably. I know when my group of friends meets an afk we just fuck around until either they come back or we get too bored of waiting

[@Amaroq64]

@@podstepmistrzem8200 You know there's meme builds that rely on pretending to be afk and then when the survivors get too prideful, suddenly coming back from afk and trapping them in and 4k them with engame collapse that they can't escape from.

[@FlipflopB]

This is one of the best random teams I’ve ever seen. I don’t think 99% of my randoms know what a CJ tech is, let alone would they try it. Edit: Also that is one toxic killer trying to just ruin people’s day. Glad this game worked out the way it did

[@justmonika2345]

Seeing how some survivors behave I wonder if they did it out of retaliation.

[@itsOasus]

@@justmonika2345 no kidding. Survivors aren't exactly saints.

[@KarenFromWalmart]

a killer isnt toxic for trying a build that almost every other killer is doing. lets not pretend like the majority of survivors are innocent players that don't teabag/clickity click after a stun, leave death threats on your profile, or say "ez" in endgame chat after bullying a killer. btw otz uploaded a video trying the same afk pig build and i dont see people calling him toxic in the comments

[@thrill_dbd]

I didn't find this killer toxic at all

[@Libellulaire]

@@KarenFromWalmart Agreed. This is a strat like any other. It's a high risk high reward strat because doing this doesn't guarantee one kill, let alone 3 or 4. It's more of a meme than anything else, and seeing how unrewarding it should be most of the time, I doubt they're doing it to annoy survivors. People are very hypocritical anyway. I remember watching Otz live, and there were those survivors obviously memeing and not caring about the game. They were not even touching any gens, they were just being dumbasses but you could tell it was on purpose, not them just sucking. But so many people on Otz's chat were making fun of them, going all "Wtf are they even doing ?!", calling them idiots or mocking how they played... Yet the same people will get super salty and annoyed when survivors are trying hard to survive like their lives depend on it. If the survivor tries hard = insult them, if they're memeing and being dumbasses = insult them. There's no winning. Also to me a much more "toxic" way of playing for Pigs is when they harass someone with a trap, making them unable to remove it. They'll follow them around to prevent them from doing any boxes, but they'll make sure to also not trigger chase so the timer keeps ticking. And as a survivor there's nothing much you can do except maybe run into the killer. It is funny though to run after a killer who's running away from you :P

[@costellomuzik4936]

To be fair though... That strategy is very in line with an actual Saw trap

[@squeaks5677]

One made by Amanda no less

[@kingol4801]

Exactly. Immersion > other reasons

[@Swift_Wings]

Not exactly, but it is very much in line with a trap specifically designed by *amanda.*

[@ogzelle]

I had this happen to me on MIDWICH of all places and the same thing happened to us: all 4 traps off and a 4 man escape

[@AxxLAfriku]

SCHOOL! The answer is I don't go! Why go? I am famous. I am famous. I have more fans than fingers multiplied with toes multiplied with teeth multiplied with ears. I am famous. I am famous. SCHOOL? No, thanks. KZbin FAME? Yes. Good day, dear pg

[@bitbreaker_creator]

@@AxxLAfriku wtf

[@nonkey74]

@@AxxLAfriku your so famous ive never heard of you!

[@theomenqueen1200]

@@AxxLAfriku loser

[@ProfessorAres]

This survivor team played this so well but imagine if Otz was on their team🤔

[@vvilliam355]

funnily enough these are comp players. idk if otz was queued with them or it was just luck lol.

[@angrygingerboss]

@@vvilliam355 did otz join and played with this guy?

[@vvilliam355]

@@angrygingerboss they all are and idk

[@angrygingerboss]

@@vvilliam355 strange. Because when I watched I didn't see otz at all

[@gamogi7142]

The odds of not having anyone die to that with 4 boxes is about 32%

[@davidmorning4820]

How did you come to this conclusion?

[@gamogi7142]

@@davidmorning4820 .75^4 (Multiplying the odds of one person not getting caught by it by itself the amount of times there are players)

[@davidmorning4820]

@@gamogi7142 which is 3?

[@davidmorning4820]

Just made ya comment get to 69

[@gamogi7142]

​@@davidmorning4820 The odds that 3 survivors live and one dies is 42.1875% (4(.75^3 x .25))

[@richardcarter8751]

I bumped into a pig like that as well. She was nodding her head when I found her in front of a box. Everyone got out of the trap. She DC'd

[@henrique839]

This is how BHVR wants you to play the game, kills are skill, no matter how many hooks. And as a surv even if you get chased for 5 generators and die at the end, you are unskilled for not escaping. 😎🖖👌

[@bap8195]

This pig had NO SKILL🤭

[@glitchesarebitches1785]

Yeah skilled counterplay isn't skilled counterplay if you died /s

[@asyashi_]

I mean this strat very rarely leads to more than 1 kill, if even that. So I don’t really get ur point. It’s a bad strat and it loses you mmr, isn’t that how it should be?

[@Casper.P]

@@asyashi_ It very often leads to atleast 2 kills, one from the traps and the second from you camping with NOED

[@asyashi_]

@@Casper.P even if you manage to get 2 kills you dont gain any mmr

[@GodsDissapointment]

This is the first time I've seen random survivors, luck, behavior, and hockey all come together in perfect unison to spell the absolute devastation of a killer. She was doomed the moment she decided to boot up the game.

[@Mr_Mellowz]

Liked for hockey reference

[@Shadowswolf9666]

I also liked the comment for hockey

[@alphyishere]

I too also liked the hockey reference

[@eeeoooaaayyy]

This hockey reference was good

[@Baniwinnie]

You haven’t played solo que enough then

[@mylife1221]

had a pig offer rpd and try and do this against me and a bunch of other solo q players. everyone was smart enough to 99 gens (even the baby meg with fixated, thank god) and everyone got their trap off despite her camping the one box. was a very boring game.

[@ayoubp7689]

I'm kinda new. But what does 99 the gens have to do with the strat? Cant you do gens like normal?

[@randomrecruit]

@@ayoubp7689 the trap is inactive, it only starts the countdown once a gen has been completed

[@akpembroke8717]

@@ayoubp7689 the trap activated when a gen is complete. 99% gen to pressure the gen but also to deny the trap to activate. Like otz said, this pig playstyle is distasteful, blocking the unlock trap box to force a survivor died to trap if someone pop a gen early. So the strat that Otz is to 99% at least 5 gen to deny the last trap being activate. if you watch the video, when the other survivor are working together, they can be in position to help the unlucky survivor with the trap by pop 5 gen as quickly as possible, open the gate and the three other escape asap, so the unlucky one can try to escape with hatch.

[@minemode9637]

"I'll make a video of that" - otz "I'll hold you to that" - me He kept his word, i am happy

[@Hunter-kn5bq]

Shoutout to Jill for that incredible cj tech

[@TheGreatDemon666]

I’ve faced this a few times and one of the times, we all had the last key trap that the piggy just so happened to be camping. So we all just screwed around and maxed out our bp in the ones that we could max out(minus altruism because the bitch didn’t hit or hook any of us and the one that has boldness in it because the piggy was crouched, so we couldn’t enter chase). Then we just ran around for 1 hour and 37 minutes until the piggy DC’ed. They wrote in chat; “Typical SWF holding the game hostage.” I wrote back; “Typical video tape bot piggy holding the game hostage and then DCing when you realized we weren’t going to pop any gen and were here solely to waste your time, add-ons and to prevent you from doing this to other people for as long as you stay. No wonder you’re still Ash 4 lol.”

[@Ub3Br3ad]

i would had left to get lunch if I was the pig LMAO

[@agtallent]

Actually faced this just yesterday… all solo randoms as far as I could tell, on the game map no less, but we managed to 99 all 5 gens and organize enough to pop them all at once. One person still had their trap on when we did so, but managed to get it off once they could see where all of the boxes were. Unfortunately somebody got hooked and camped (way to make a scummy strat even scummier) and we couldn’t find the NOED totem in time, so only a 3 man escape :(

[@Chuckvsfrank1232]

That's why when I do it with pig I use the add on that removes 10 seconds for each complete gen so if they 99 all the gens they just die faster

[@frost_8784]

the jill’s cj was the best thing ive seen today

[@MrRivech]

"One of you will die and one of you will live." So it's almost like you...Make Your Choice?

[@Real_RUBB3R]

Fun fact about the Iridescent Tape, it actually doesn't guarantee all 4 survivors start with a trap on their head, it simply applies all the tapes you have available onto survivor's heads, up to 4. If you also bring Amanda's Letter, only 2 survivors will have traps on their head

[@AXP_4]

Shout out to bhvr for producing FUTURE hockey goalkeepers

[@renix2383]

I played DBD for the first time tonight after a month break. My third game back and we had a pig do this, except they weren't even afk. We were a swf on comms and I explained to the others what was happening and how to play around it as they were blocking the correct box for 1 of us. We 99ed the 5 gens then split up and popped them all in a few seconds. Three of us left asap to make the hatch spawn and as soon as we did, the pig moves and finds the person with the trap on their head to 1hit down them with noed before they can find the hatch. They left them to bleed out the entire way. SBMM says the pig deserved that kill so it was skill. SBMM also says that survivor in the best case scenario would neither gain nor lose mmr but even that didn't happen. What a great design :)

[@ZandoFox]

There's about a 31% chance of this happening lol. Higher than you might expect.

[@HachuraAMV]

The chances of 2 people having the same box be their key is less than 10%. 90% of the time AFK Pig gets 0 to 1 kills but people are calling it exploitative and unfair. Got Otz saying it needs to be patched. Amazing to me

[@ZandoFox]

@@HachuraAMV Assuming that the Pig blocking your box automatically equals a kill, the probability of them getting 2 or more kills is about 26%, not 10%.

[@TheRealMycanthrope]

31% percent chance of what?

[@HachuraAMV]

@@ZandoFox 256 possibilities (4x4x4x4 possible boxes), for two people to share a box while the others have to NOT share that blocked by box is (1/4) * (1/4) * (3/4) *(3/4) = 6/256 or 2.3% It's probability. You have to ask how many possibilities there are vs how many possibilities you're looking for.

[@ZandoFox]

@@TheRealMycanthrope There's a 31% chance that none of the survivors' keys will be in the box blocked by the pig

[@qxdeath13]

This is why they should still spawn hatch at no more gens, you could escape through there and avoid the head pops

[@youngrootv]

These guys had to be communicating or have the stream up, there’s no way they played it that well haha. Absolutely rolled that killer!

[@KumaNicol]

That was the most satisfying CJ I have ever seen. No mercy for AKF pigs.

[@redblue681]

so one box can remove more than 1 beartrap? i always thought every trap has a unique box to it

[@Dr.Slaughter]

Each trap has a key randomly put in a box. They all could be in the same box, they all could be in a box of their own. Its random

[@Shadowswolf9666]

I thought so too, until I caught 4 survivors running a train on one of my boxes :(

[@weskershades]

I thought this too

[@unsuspiciousdweller8967]

Iirc, completing a box gives an RNG chance of getting the trap off depending on how many other traps/boxes are done, increasing in probability as there are less boxes to search. Once a trap is taken off, that box wont give a key for another trap

[@Shadowswolf9666]

Oh God they found my comment

[@GarrB3ar]

I've faced this and my team and I absolutely dissected the person trying it. They were a streamer too so it was great to watch their crybaby reaction. I watched their vod and they even started stream sniping the streamer I was playing with at one point in the match. "These guys are so boring, killers can't meme 😢", as he sat there eating, stream sniping, and not moving the entire game 😂 Genuinely embarrassing human, a father in his 30's btw, yikes. I had just watched Yerv's video on it the day before so I knew exactly what they were doing. A couple things you didn't mention besides 99'ing gens is doing all the totems to prevent the inevitable noed and having 1 person (or even 2 if the pig is smart enough to know that everyone can get out if only 1 person needs the box they're blocking) not search boxes until the gens and totems are ready so that the pig stays "afk" in hopes they'll still get a head pop, since that's all the cringe lords doing it really want 😂 always good to see people getting what they deserve

[@terrnoisrp8894]

We had game like this on RPD and all of our bear traps were attached to the same box. The same box was blocked by the pig the entire game. We did all the totem, 99% all the gens and by the way we were a complete solo queue team and just did all of this knowing what was going on. Eventually we all dead but no salt at all it was kinda of fun

[@collinluell5777]

That’s so lucky haha

[@Notoriouslydevious]

That pig was prob so fcking sad. Bringing that end game build, thinking they'd just clean up the 3 remaining survivors after someone got popped by a reverse bear trap.. I almost feel bad for them.

[@kristofszilvasi9021]

5:58 lmao hope vs noed chases seem so fun, you are faster by 7% the killer is faster by 4% the chases are so much more intense and faster

[@ryokiritani4187]

It's like taking the training wheels off

[@humanarian]

Can't argue with the devs, Otz! Kills = skill. This Pig just wasn't *_skillful_* enough with the RNG, but if she was, she would have most likely have a kill without even lifting a finger. You can't get more skillful than that! (according to the devs)

[@googleplex7097]

Every mmr game basis ur skill rating off winning and losing. If u died u lost end of story. Only the cry baby dbd community thinks this is a problem

[@SLKibara]

@@googleplex7097 Ah yes because running the killer for five gens and dying because yougot facecamped is such an issue of the sruvivor who died being less skilled

[@ManlyOBeeferton]

@@googleplex7097 Please tell me you're joking and are not actually this clueless.

[@googleplex7097]

@@ManlyOBeeferton all sbmm games give you mmr if you win the game. Dbd’s win condition is to escape, what don’t you get about that?

[@ManlyOBeeferton]

@@googleplex7097 Wow so you are being serious. Oh dear. An immersed Blendette could hide and do absolutely nothing the whole game while their teammates do all the work and take on the killer, yet the Blendette could still escape and 'win'. Great 'skill' there..

[@soursylveon4784]

KZbinrs using a funny cheese strategy: 😎😂 KZbinrs when a random does it: 🤨😡📸

[@arshadzaidi4667]

There's a difference between a funny cheese strategy and afking for free kills.

[@Wiseguy150]

@@arshadzaidi4667 I think he is referring to how comments were mostly positive when Dowsey did the same strat as a joke video but it gets blasted when someone else tries it

[@arshadzaidi4667]

@@Wiseguy150 The video was making fun of the devs mindset regarding kills=skills. It was blatant satire. Not a good comparison lol.

[@Nzlaten]

@@Wiseguy150 Dowsey and his chat were toxic to survivors who destroyed him when he was trying this strat just like this video... He wasn't trying it for fun he's just a sad man

[@soursylveon4784]

@@arshadzaidi4667 that’s litteraly what the funny cheese strategy is

[@NicE-yr2vx]

When Otz makes the mistakes you know the other survivors are amazing players!😂

[@Ritsu362]

Funny how I saw so many people praising this strat online when it’s the laziest shit ever taking full advantage of the RNG element in this game. Yes, it’s totally in character for the pig. But it honestly sucks when you’re trying to play a normal game and you run into this and one of your teammates,without knowing, pops a gen. It definitely is pretty distasteful

[@isaiasvasquez]

Bro relax, we’re just trying to be lore accurate

[@Ritsu362]

@@isaiasvasquez ah yes, the lore accurate pig with noed, blood warden, and rancor

[@thatsplinter]

Where the hell were you that you saw people praising this?

[@Ritsu362]

@Dart Runner on Reddit, the amount of comments and posts with 1k+ upvotes about this is kinda nutty. Pretty sure yerv’s vid is pretty popular too

[@deKlaw_04]

@@thatsplinter I saw it in the forums too

[@NanaDaiba524]

3:19 that was a perfect moment for a sweet t-bag

[@GooblyWoobly69]

With strats like this and noed being a thing, it blows my mind that people want this game to be competitive

[@SilastheMatchmaker]

I think the correct wording here is treating Pub matches as heavily competitive. Comp DBD is a thing, and stuff like what that Pig was doing doesn't happen there. NOED also has more consistent chances of getting counterplayed, so...

[@avrandlane2735]

eh the game has been like this for a long time, killers don't want to chase cat and mouse anymore i don't blame them loop locations are absurd and done extremely bad and you have bad survivors thinking they're good but the game system itself is broken and survivors are just playing with it, just like this pig did as well nothing wrong with it. just like terrible hook locations and survivors go in the corner or up stairs. killers have to deal with way way more broken/unbalanced issues. this game was never competitive and never will be, way to many balance issues.

[@Tony_zr]

This game is to RNG heavy for comp

[@camelliascholl6564]

2:27 - "LMAO if this turns into noed backup plan I swear" AnnieRuby with the prediction

[@thepeterx]

8:02 Otz hides the screen in case the pig is a streamer 8:21 Otz shows the screen again even though it's a streamer and a youtuber, but without TTV or YT in his nickname.

[@gorgit]

Should he now know the name of every streamer and youtuber? He probably only looked for ttv and to be fair, thats all one can reasonably expect him to do.

[@lonesquiff6551]

I've only come across this playstyle once and I was the unlucky survivor as the rest of the team started popping gens immediately. I thought it was hilarious though. I've always thought each box was unique to a specific trap so thanks for that insight Otz.

[@ouijabored45]

the key should always be in the 3rd box by default, that way it'd be a win-win: the traps don't come off on the first search, and the pig can't camp the boxes. it should scale up depending on how many boxes there are to be 1 less than that amount so the addons don't make it easier.

[@Simon-lq5uk]

"go to college and find a statician to tell you how unlucky you are" is very creative. Love it.

[@darkestmoon5134]

The Pig lost the game because of this strat. She sat AFK and by the time she started playing, some of the Gens were already half finished.🤣

[@Nimoot]

They lost because it only really works on some maps, like the police station because of how maze-like it is.

[@derpyduck5088]

@@Nimoot It doesn't matter what map it is. If you don't know the counter, the person who's getting their box camped will die basically no matter what.

[@electrojay4666]

@@derpyduck5088 that’s technically not true since let’s say theoretically the other 3 survivors get their traps off and escape, you can escape via hatch, a hatch escape with an active trap will not kill people contrary to exiting via exit gate with active trap, that will kill you.

[@theplaguedscripter7805]

Future man here This strat is definitely why they added 5 boxes

[@FunnyVaIentine]

So does it still work?

[@E_2the_mma]

@@FunnyVaIentine Nope, because of this strat they reworked the boxes by adding a 5th box and you are guaranteed to get the trap off after the 4th search.

[@theplaguedscripter7805]

@@FunnyVaIentineno it doesn’t since this was back when pig only had four trap boxes so originally pig had a 25% success rate on this but once they added five boxes it’s now a 0% chance if this working Every box has a 25% chance to remove the trap that increases each time you fail eventually reaching 100% guarantee on fourth box so this strat no longer works.

[@boringmonkey6958]

Went against Dowsey doing this and him and his chat accused of us of "hOlDiNg tHe GaMe HoStAgE" for 99'ing the gens until we were ready to pop them at the same time so last survivor with the head trap could get hatch (the only way to counter this crap) but there were 2 survivors with head traps so we sort of waited around to see if he would give up and move away from the box (which he did eventually). Dowsey was so damn toxic and salty about it and so was his chat. So lame.

[@tk_the_onion]

Bless everyone who escapes against AFK pigs. Chad moves vs virgin playstyle

[@boringmonkey6958]

@@tk_the_onion It's just kind of pathetic to employ a tactic like that and then ACTUALLY get mad about the Survivors outplaying said tactic. He even brought up the whole "you think you're good when you're playing in a SWF"... 2 of us were, not sure about the other 2. And even if we were a 4 man... Who cares? Can't exactly complain about anything when you're playing like that, I rewound his stream and he was even saying at the start "guaranteed 2 kills" and his chat were saying something about "queue the salty survivors coming in chat after the match"... He went in to the game with the intention of being toxic and got his medicine

[@dungeaterfancam]

Lmao Dowsey did that? I knew he’s pretty immature but Jesus Christ doing the Pig exploit on stream is so lame

[@lukec8402]

Do you remember what vod it is? I wanna watch that hahah

[@cjnewman7550]

He's probably trying to show bhvr kills = skill

[@nohbbddy]

Had a match similar to this where the pig had the add on where there are only two things to get the trap off of your head. I got the trap put on my head close to late game, and what she did was watch me and follow me around, blocking the box before I got to it. Was the most aggravating and hilarious game I've ever had as Steve. My teammates tried to block her towards the end, but if I got to it she would just down me and leave me on the ground to be healed. Get healed only to have the box blocked once again.

[@Terreignx]

Hate killers like that

[@lolmayne]

I played a game against the same type of pig, but unluckily THREE of us had the trap on the one box she decided to camp. Q_Q

[@kordami28]

"I don't remember going to the dentist; what are these braces?" Lol

[@NeocrimsonX]

Sad thing is the people that play pig normally will eventually suffer for this

[@DatCrumb]

I mean the best thing they can do is to just not let you block the boxes by removing collision or making the key move to another box if the pig is too close to the box for a long time, I do get your concern as knowing these devs they'll probably nerf the video tape before they change any mechanics involving the box.

[@NeocrimsonX]

@@DatCrumb yeah

[@Leyllara]

kind of expected that the afk pig with all the backup plans would fall for a CJ save

[@yeetmeister574]

I literally sat for like 40 minutes looking at the pig and with my team as we had 99 all the gens,and then we baited her out and we got our traps removed (we had 2 people with traps on their heads) and we had 2 people escape

[@opechatka]

Omg my friends and I were playing against an afk pig as well a few months ago, I remember it clearly. She was sitting at one of the boxes which none of us used and still got our bear traps off. It's an oof xD

[@413X13]

Pig can counter the counter by bringing a hatch offering, then camp the box that’s closest to the hatch 🤷‍♂️

[@ilovemesomevideogame]

Hatch offerings are very inconsistent. Pop one for shack hatch and you might get Haddonfield (pretty sure I butchered that), pop a main building offering and you get the Saw map

[@413X13]

@@ilovemesomevideogame basement offering on Haddonfield means hatch will spawn in the Strode house

[@where.am.i.]

and also bring ruin which would be extra toxic lol

[@olegplottrot]

@@where.am.i. Na that would just get cleansed easily especially cause it’s not being protected it just wouldn’t work with this strat

[@where.am.i.]

@@olegplottrot true true

[@Haileycartero]

I’m so happy this became a VOD

[@serioustable8659]

This isn't even the best/most unfair way to troll with pig, it's actually [REDACTED]

[@testerfox6998]

Thank you for explaining the add-ons and perks in your videos

[@anima4real866]

Pig, I load into the match Pig, I sit at a box. Pig, Everyone get's they're trap off. Planning board, Everyone gets they're trap off.

[@KM-jb3vg]

That Jill nailed the CJ tech my lord wowee what a clutch moment

[@Goolesy]

Killers: survivors have no self respect teabagging and flashlight clicking. Also killers:

[@Reece8u]

The real strat is to 99 all the gens as soon as you realize the pig is doing the strategy, before getting any hats off at all. That way, you are guarenteed to escape even if all the hats come off

[@elemo9117]

Lore accurate gameplay

[@Kaiarartus]

the ironic thing about this play style is its 100 percent lore accurate and something the pig would actually do

[@InterwovenElements]

AFK piggy is my favorite thing in the game right now. Skilled gameplay leads to kills, that build proves it.

[@thatfishguy4991]

I don’t know if Behaviour even needs to patch this. It’s counterable, and, if I was a survivor and noticed this, I’d probably go and find all the totems and cleanse them before the last Gen pops as well, just because it seems clear they’d have NOED too.

[@ManlyOBeeferton]

It needs to be patched because it turns the match into a borefest.

[@joescott1526]

The devs love this style of play

[@platypusboi5107]

Bruh, i has such game today and we all removed our traps(unlucky pig), but then jake got hit by pig and disconnected, later same thing with claudette, i was soo confused, then pig found me, hit me aaaand my game crashed :/ idk if it was some bug that would only trigger in specific situation or if pig was a cheater.

[@ThatGuy-c]

3 DCs? Has to be a cheater

[@blitzotheclown2495]

Honestly I do this every now and again to see if luck is on my side that week

[@lel1883]

Honestly they should’ve buffed her ability and not her add ons

[@overratedfool6900]

That add on sucks. I don't remember what it was before (though I'm confident it wasn't iri, since I had about 50 of them), but whatever it was was better than this. It's a negative, worse than no add on. You're actually handicapping yourself bringing this, however you choose to play it.

[@lel1883]

@@overratedfool6900 yea it was called video tape and it was a yellow add on

[@lel1883]

@@overratedfool6900 and there was also Amanda’s letter Wich is the same but it’s removed 2 bare traps and not 3

[@lel1883]

@@overratedfool6900 1*

[@christopherpeccorini9592]

AFK pig still more fun than a Hag game.

[@jarritostf2188]

I don't even own pig, but this seems like something I'd do once or twice just as like a little game show. If I get 0 traps like what happened here, I'll just snort around gens and let all 4 out. If I only get 1 but they coordinate the gens to try and get last guy hatch I'll give it to them. Mostly I'd just wanna do it as a luck check for myself lol

[@MattBiersackSanders]

Same, this is something you could randomly try just to check if it works and then move on. People just overreact to it like it's the new meta lol

[@kouyaaotsuki4757]

I too love wasting people’s time in the most unfun ways possible

[@jarritostf2188]

@@kouyaaotsuki4757 it ain't that serious brother. If you're getting like this over a simple youtube comment I can't imagine how shitty you are in postgame. Just breathe and step away if you're so immediately unsettled.

[@Nzlaten]

@@jarritostf2188 it sounds like you're the one that's overreacting since he said nothing but state a fact; which is you waste everyone's time and make it unfun for 4 random ppl for no reason... If you want to try ur (luck) do it against 4 of ur friends. If you have any with that attitude

[@justwatch7091]

@@jarritostf2188 The hypocrisy of you are getting miles saltier due to a youtube comment that states a fact lmao

[@payasiaakash]

Otz survivor videos are the best.

[@Maitredebo2]

What a bad player/killer. She got detroyed and this is so satisfying to watch

[@oliviab3535]

Never knew you could do that! Thanks for making the vid Otz

[@littlesmoke6874]

This strategy was used against me, very depressing 😔

[@wabalubadupdup]

Is like a High Risk Gambling, but when you get the jackpot it is so satisfied

[@maninhu9837]

A really cool way to patch this is having the jigsaw puppet say something like: unfair amanda! And block the box, if a survivor needs that box it will instantly break the trap and if not then he will just need to try other boxes

[@amber_thefox.cosplay]

I had a friendly pig camp the last one. She refused to let any of my teammates through but she ket us boop her snoot. Such a good time

[@benis654]

As much as I don't condone this type of gameplay, this is perfect time for it to be becoming popular, given the whole kills = skill comment from Patrick. Well done to this team tho for beating this "skillful" Pig lol

[@Synnabelle]

One time we had an AFK pig and everyone knew the counterplay except one guy. She popped the gen so the one unlucky bastard who was needing hatch ended up dying. Then the pig found her and camped her with NOED and we didn't even bother to go save. It was a messy end game chat.

[@empiyrr2133]

Even though it’s an extremely scummy strategy unless pig is fully reworked there will always be players who will use this

[@aceedge9971]

No cap, this strat is the most SAW esque strat I've seen in the game

[@yunglink992]

Depends. For Amanda Whatever, the piggy, you're completely right. But John Kramer would hate it, as his entire deal was that every trap is survivable if they have the will to. That's why he killed Amanda.

[@tk_the_onion]

Yeah, Amanda was shit at her job

[@phaserunner2413]

@@yunglink992 i thought jeff killed amanda

[@yunglink992]

@@phaserunner2413 Well he did, but he was also the trap for Amanda that John had set up. If Amanda had listened to John and wasn't intent on everyone failing their tests, then she would've gotten the hell out of dodge by the time Jeff had made it there, Amanda died by Jeff's gun, but by Kramer's design.

[@baddabing4494]

"Distasteful?" OTZ! That is peak Pig performance! How dare you call that immense skill distasteful! That's one of the best killers I've ever seen! Patrick would be cheering! Why would Patrick ever patch out a skillful way of playing? A prime strategy? He might as well patch out insidious Bubba! That's equally as skillful! Then while he's at it, he should to patch out bodyblocking on the Twins, Trapper's Shack, Demo's basement, and Pyramid Head tunneling. But wait a second, those all seem like creative strategies using perks/addons/powers in unique ways? Why is this one any different? It's a skillful strategy according to Patrick for getting a win (kills)! It's almost as if he has no clue whatsoever what he's talking about... Otz if you die from the AFK Pig strategy, we're you ever really skilled in the first place? Definitely not as skilled as the Pig! 200 IQ plays!

[@DeadDrone-vv7vr]

Does afk tech, fails, get's cjed, gets 0k, 0 bitches, bro's on aura debt

[@TheJacyn313]

Imagine running the afk pig strat *WITH* NoED *WITH* bitter murmur *WITH* rancor and still not getting a single gotdamn kill... 💩💀 That's what happens when you watch one too many dbd meme build youtube videos and don't actually ever play killer yourself so you think it'll be as easy as the video.

[@TheJacyn313]

Last pig I faced ran the iri tape + rule set 2, got angry because I burned a sacrificial ward and they burned a midwich offering so all 5 gens magically finished themselves and all our heads exploded at once. Amazing gameplay 10 out of 10 pretty good job so far.

[@bap8195]

This pig is a killer main funny how he didn't post this game to his Yt channel😂😂😂😂😂

[@MadaraUchiha-ty4rh]

Rank 1 killer, so they do play

[@TheJacyn313]

@@MadaraUchiha-ty4rh rank doesn't matter if all you play are beginners but I get what you're saying

[@Omgitsrevi]

I mean, this is quite accurate in the Saw lore. It s a dilemma if two players are trapped

[@tk_the_onion]

Normally I'm not one for slamming players for their playstyles, but I hope everyone who plays afk Pig loses their gambles and their survivors for the next 50 games all get out without getting hit or hooked

[@deKlaw_04]

I hate flashlight clicking and tbagging but that pig deserved it for playing like that

[@shadowcross4813]

Yeah its really unfun.

[@ghostdoge5275]

Afk pig is not even playing the game, at least campers try to defend the hook, pig just stands there and goes to the bathroom

[@shadowcross4813]

@@ghostdoge5275 I mean bhvr encourages that kind of play for killer. It doesn't matter what happened as long as you get a kill.

[@tk_the_onion]

@@shadowcross4813 that's not really true at all, as AFK pig is literally refusing to participate in normal gameplay. Idling/refusing to participate in normal gameplay is even listed by one of BHVR's reportable offenses. On that same note, facrcamping is not. Most likely because the facecamper has to at least actively prevent hooks. An AFK pig does not, as the RNG of the boxes can either force a survivor to die for no real reason or the game to be held hostage by the pig.

[@Laeyna]

They didn't just dodge a bullet; they dodged a whole ass magazine.

[@dasmaffin1633]

I did the AFstrat twice game 1: 1 got the trap off game 2: all got the trap off I got an extreme and almost the other in a row

[@fourtysix4646]

Don’t worry keep trying you’ll get the 4K head pop with them begging you to move eventually. I have that clip from rpd a few days ago with just that.

[@dasmaffin1633]

@@fourtysix4646 I dont have that many addons and only needed a "kill by any means" challenge while going actually AFK lmao

[@fourtysix4646]

@@dasmaffin1633 yep also a great build if you have food in the oven that’s almost done, walk away/plate it and come back and watch while you start eating lol

[@Hyphen372]

4:54 and this shows how jill mains are chads

[@originalTraps]

the irony of this happening to otz is hilarious since he practically set fire to the popularity of this strat when he did it himself.

[@notOtzdarva]

Please show me the screenshot of me doing this.

[@noahsg5550]

I believe it was Yerv that popularised it.

[@originalTraps]

@@notOtzdarva my bad i could have sworn it was you i watched doing it live on twitch but it may have actually been yerv thinking back

[@IgnasiMarcos]

Otz, lucky I saw that video, because yesterday we got an afk pig with same build and we got also 4 out, she was not happy about that... We were 4 on comms, but most of us not experienced survs so we did our best and worked thanks...

[@therpderp]

nah, making it to shack was not because of your "not precise" movement, it was noed's speed boost making hope's 7% effectively worthless.

[@glassyskies]

No, if not for hope he wouldn't have even gotten close to shack. Hope was the only reason he had a chance, he just needed more precise movement

[@D1mly]

I always forget about speed boost of noed