Pillars of Eternity - White March Finale & Tempering Abydon

[@mariosuarez6656]

thank you sooo muuuch, i lost one and quit the game in a rage with alt f4, i thought that i fucked up, but no, it was my party that save me, aswell my decitions, the only fuck up was supporting animancy, everything else, victory, and your guide, keep up the good work

[@CrankyTemplar]

Glad it helped! Best of luck with the rest of the game!

[@jacobmartin3639]

"The Eyeless disappeared beneath the lake, their bond to Ondra finally severed. With this threat ended, hope returned to the White March. Hunters returned to the wildernesses and travelers to the roads. Tales of the Watcher's bravery replaced stories of monsters in the woods. The villagers of Stalwart busied their hands with work and their tongues with song, eager to seize on the promise of peace."

[@nickclark89]

what if I want to do the neutral ending for animancy? I really want Aloth to be against the leaden key and i don't want Maneha to forget. I released the souls from the battery. This is a mess! XD I'm trying to build my perfect run for POE2 but it's hard and I'm scared some ending slides to be buggy aaaaaa

[@CrankyTemplar]

Yeah, tempering Abydon is kind of a mess with some things you have to do. I'm not sure how the neutral ruling for animancy by the duc plays out for convincing the Eyeless. If you haven't completed Act 2 I'd recommend getting the White March content done so that the quest being active will allow it to work in your favor. If you're past Act 2 already and got the neutral ending for animancy then do tell whether you could use animancy as an example to convince the Eyeless! You can also edit your history for Pillars of Eternity 2 so you don't really need to make a perfect run to jump in (although there isn't a choice to temper Abydon in the history editor, so not sure if importing such does anything). Best of luck!

[@nickclark89]

Yes! I read you can do WM2 before Act 2 (I have to do Lady Webb mission yet so I havent finished act 2) but I read Aloth tells you something about the leaden key and breaks the immersion if you are a obsessive roleplayer XD lets how this turns out! thank you!

[@cresTXTreme]

So my hands didn't just kindled the fires ,i actually bonded those dwarve's souls to the Whiteforge for myself.So i had to present Aloth's script to make up for the loss of that point at 07:45.Aaand tada i suceeded with the Tempering Abydon ending.Yeah ,,,win win ...thnx to Devil coz she was relevant at least in the end. Thnx for the guide too ..never thought my actions throughout wud be weighed on in one final hour. The ending of the WM II just grabbed me by the ......

[@CrankyTemplar]

Thanks! Congrats on tempering Abydon! Glad I could help as it requires a pretty narrow setup to succeed.

[@Igelnase]

Cause of THIS video it worked great for me. :D THANKS A LOT!

[@CrankyTemplar]

Nice, congrats on getting the outcome you wanted!

[@RujRune.Aelysian]

Hey, I'm sorry if I just ask this so many years later, but I can't find anyone or anything answering to this doubt i have with certainty. I have bounded the Pargrunen's Souls to the Durgan's Battery Cannons (although I'm starting to regret it, role playing wise), will my arguments about the White Forge pass anyway despite this decision I made? I mean, i haven't bounded them to the White Forge itself, so, will this be accepted by the Eyeless on this last confrontation all the same?

[@CrankyTemplar]

I am sorry but I'm not sure of the answer for that, it's been too long since I played. There may be a wiki that may have the answer.

[@fgg4136]

Do I need to pass all the arguments?... I've passed 2 but the temper option doesn't show up

[@CrankyTemplar]

Yes, I think all the arguments must be passed.

[@fgg4136]

CrankyTemplar oof i guess I’ll replay

[@Shrooms-gud4ya]

I actually used The Devil of Caroc to hammer the crystall, but this is also badass :)

[@Super-xs5gq]

I didn’t actually have to make any bad choices to temper abydon because I finished the white march in act 1 lol

[@CrankyTemplar]

Seems the best way to do all of this.

[@fabiandonvil]

hey can i know how you made the reputation and disposition gian visible in the conversations?

[@CrankyTemplar]

I think the options have things to make things them available but it's been a very long time since I played and I don't quite remember.

[@jacquelinegrey5011]

Is there a way of doing this without banning animancy?

[@CrankyTemplar]

Yes, if you complete the White March before finishing Act 2 you can argue that animancy has knowledge best forgotten, the same thing you use if it was banned. Otherwise, I know if you persuaded Aloth that keeping secrets can be important and he's present during the White March finale then you can use him as an example in that section. There may be other methods to persuade the Eyeless in that particular section, but I don't know of any others. It can be frustrating because it's a pretty narrow window and if you resolved things a certain way you can't get the best outcome.

[@TheShadowlt]

Do you really need to have companions to reach the best possible outcome?

[@CrankyTemplar]

I'm not 100% sure since I don't know all possibilities, but it does seem that some companions are needed to have enough examples for at least one point (Memory remains a burden) and their side quests have to been resolved in a certain manner for them to count. For instance, convincing the Eyeless that some knowledge is best forgotten has an option for Aloth but only works if he was steered toward believing that some secrets should be hidden. This finale was before completing Act 2 because you can't use the animancy option unless you convinced the duke to ban it or had not finished the quest (and that yields a worse ending for that segment).

[@gonzalosans8490]

Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaankssssssssssss

[@CrankyTemplar]

No problem, hope it helped!

[@LilPorcelynDoll]

I have Aloth, how do I know if he is swayed more toward authority rather than autonomy?

[@CrankyTemplar]

His side quest in the animancy asylum should influence it (I believe if you encourage him to prevent the research about him from being published versus letting it be published then he'll be more towards secrecy).