What Happened To John Constantine After The Apokolips War?

[@BlitzGamer35]

babe wake up new needlemouse video just dropped

[@GRH_Roadhouse]

5 more minutes Roadhouse

[@GlorytoAllah749]

"Five more minutes dear"

[@БогданКрименюк]

@GRH_Roadhouse why the duck do you feel the need to repeat your username IN YOUR COMMENT?

[@retsel2009]

He's back in justice league infinite crisis om earth part 2 where he does not remember his name, until John Stewart tells his name.

[@petethelman957]

I do like this movie’s version of the spectre. While in the comics the Spectre is more ruthless and unforgiving of anyone who commits horrible crimes. He actually tries to help Constantine because he knows John did what he did in order to save earth. The spectre is sympathetic and gives John a punishment that he would actually enjoy but John being John is too full of self hate and bitterness to think he deserves it.

[@luciferneverchanges5841]

Full of scotch, and bitterness, and impure thoughts.

[@manojramesh4598]

What is the movie name of this?

[@jilhaneyisaiahdanielb.8878]

I saw a screenshot of Spectre deleting Darkseid.

[@jemd5766]

Yet he doesn't give him 1 Tip about House of Mysterious until it was too late for him.

[@gameover9390]

Him being understanding while still delivering just Vengeance is more fitting to him, as the spectre is supposed to be the The physical manifestation of God’s wrath.

[@LDHulll]

I remember that movie pretty well. It hits deep that his own thoughts were against him the whole time and it was his own thoughts that were killing him.

[@SHMOUSEY86]

"I remember that movie pretty well." I mean it's been less than a year since release, so I sure hope you do lmao

[@Onepiecethunder23]

​@SHMOUSEY86 I seem to have missed this movie entirely, what is it?

[@Onepiecethunder23]

​@SHMOUSEY86 nm I found it, even had it posted at the start of the video, missed that too lol.

[@LDHulll]

@@SHMOUSEY86 I should be clear that the message at the end is what was impacting not really the whole movie. Guy got screwed over in all of his lives.

[@ammolator]

Thats depression right there, I go through that too.

[@StephenDurnan]

Flash: *Messes with the timeline for the 1000000th time* Spectre: I sleep Constantine: *Brings everything back to normal and makes everyone happy* Spectre: Real shit?

[@Kj99x]

flash served his punishment tho

[@DavidWilson-kx5bg]

@@Kj99x how?

[@jannydj2393]

Answer: Speed force John Constantine only get punished because he was the one suggesting Flash to create another flash point

[@passbyicecube]

@@DavidWilson-kx5bg in newest movie, flash redeem himself

[@FsicX]

@@jannydj2393 i know you commented this before infinite crisis part 3 but its not quite what happen the reason flash doesnt get the punishment when changing the timeline because its not a fixed point in time example like barry mother when barry save his mother he broke the universe rule so his world turn into chaos eventually he stop himself from saving his mother because he knew it was a fixed point while constantion told the flash to save the universe which means killing darkseid flash cant kill darkseid but constantine spell on the flash kill darkseid which is also a fixed point he broke the universe rule and NOT FIXED it like barry hence breaking the universe into 2 creating the multiverse so in simple ways flash was a bullet while constantine is gun blaming the bullet for doing something is stupid right? so yeah there is your answer

[@damarcusmcghee9900]

I feel like this was a horrible way to end him. I'm surprised the specter didn't just visit him after a while and then clarify what was happening. He acknowledged constantine was saving the universe from Darkseid and didn't want to hurt him. Helping him find peace but trapped for eternity would have been a better ending. Maybe even turn him into something similar to the specter.

[@incognit01233]

He's a constant one. He, his bloodline, will always be and always has been.

[@fikrijuanda6321]

Now i realized Spectre is so stupid not giving him the situasion there in. I think John would happy in prison if he knows what's the purpose of that

[@shanonsnyder9450]

I think he was trying to teach John a lesson, but his own flaws prevented him from growing. Instead of confronting his demons and accepting his fate, he tried to wriggle out of it through cunning and spite. Ultimately, he uses his gifts to run away from his personal problems. If he had simply submitted to killing each time, and instead expressed himself to his "friends" (the good side of his psyche) he would have had a good life. Instead, he ran away rather than facing his troubles, which was his ultimate undoing.

[@paxtonpowerranger]

I thought that ending for John Constantine, was stupid. That version of the character was BEYOND GOOD. They should of had him be the only one who remembered the New 52 universe, but not tell anyone about it. I hope they bring him back

[@alertwolf]

We don't have to wonder what happens to him. In the next DC film on Green Lantern the bum who was about to be set on fire (for talking doom and gloom) was John. So not a good ending for him.

[@bryanyap3888]

with the new crisis movie, you are sorta right

[@Amerac133]

​@@bryanyap3888if I'm not mistaken he is in multiple of the new movies not just crisis

[@animysticamv4417]

Which movies? ​@@Amerac133

[@stephendelosreyes1084]

He's back. Crisis on Infinite Earths ;)

[@SHMOUSEY86]

Constantine is EASILY one of the most well written and complex characters in all of comics. The only thing I want more than a decent Green Lantern movie is a dark, live action JL: Dark movie with Constantine, Batman, Zatanna, Etrigan/Jason Blood, and Deadman.

[@DC.edit347]

Real

[@westower7898]

Very true, and I'd like Matt Ryan to come back to play the role of Constantine.

[@LiterallyEveryone217]

@@westower7898 100% with you on that

[@randallflagg3700]

@@westower7898 - Matt Ryan has been playing Constantine for 9 years now, both in live action (from his own TV show that sadly only got one season in 2014, to *Arrow* season 4 and then in *Legends of Tomorrow* ) and in animation (the DCAMU, and his cameo in the show *Harley Quinn* ) . I love Matt Ryan as John, he's a fantastic cast, but I wouldn't be mad if they gave someone else a chance at playing our favorite hellblazer.. Giving Keanu another shot was an interesting pitch (I have no idea if that project is still even a thing), same as having a different version of the character in the show *The Sandman* ... Matt Ryan has had a great, almost decade long run as JC, but if we don't try other actors we might miss out too...

[@Who_Tye709]

Batman and deadman have the best interactions in the Comics

[@S1nn1S]

Well they answered it in the infinity crisis. He is doomed to watch worlds fall for eternity, one after another.

[@sypherthe297th2]

So they made him Pariah?

[@dikastederook6380]

​@@sypherthe297th2 Essentially

[@sypherthe297th2]

@@dikastederook6380 Always thought Pariah was kind of meh and then the Dark Crisis nonsense. . . But this happening to Constantine is kind of funny.

[@dikastederook6380]

@@sypherthe297th2 Yeah I agree

[@lucasbertram4728]

Atleast this tells us that the old DC animated universe still lives on throw one person

[@carlosgarza400]

For once the Spectre was actually trying to protect somebody who did something wrong instead of trying to avenge. Kinda ironic that the perfect prison for him was leaving him with his own mind

[@saurabhkanhere7033]

Wrong ! He saved Earth. Use brain, NPCs

[@sharksbean]

I think what happened with the universe swallowing Constantine up is that he was last piece of the old timeline not erased or rewritten. So it removed him from existence entirely.

[@felixjohnson3874]

That wouldnt make sense because he asked spectre to kill him which, given his already quite dead circumstances, indicates he was ASKING for a complete erasal from existence, it also means whatever he was getting dragged into was worse.

[@painful_fish3083]

@@felixjohnson3874 he was dragged into the heart of the universe but I have no idea what that means

[@sharksbean]

@@painful_fish3083 Heart burn?

[@Raiden6277]

Knowing John, he'd probably find a way to escape it.

[@sharksbean]

@@Raiden6277 another possibility is that he saw the beginnings of the crisis on infinite earths and got tossed into it.

[@fernandorosales599]

Actually, I think Constantine did appear in the Tomorrowverse in Beware My Power. It is possible that the homeless person that Jon Stewart saved and that person was talking about how "the world will end with a flash of light" and only Constantine remembers anything from the previous universe. Both films were released 2 months apart as well.

[@NicTheMonsterMan2901-i7d]

Actually, I always thought the guy was a character from Batman Arkham Manor, an inmate who continually insists that everyone including himself is dead, because this guy seem to rant on about the same thing

[@Poussyeater-w5e]

Oh shit. In the newest animated film, Crisis on Infinite Earths, there's also a homeless looking guy who Flash keeps encountering while travelling between parallel earths. I wonder if that guy is indeed Constantine.

[@Doodmeister0]

Yea that's Constantine

[@ahoora46]

you were right dude.

[@sensiponics]

It's john

[@Cuban20]

I think it was an idiotic ending, we need him back.

[@elijahaaron6949]

Its constantine he always comes back

[@garytheplatypus803]

​@@elijahaaron6949 no that's willam afton

[@GlorytoAllah749]

@@garytheplatypus803 The Fnaf lore went to so many places.First it's about animatronics that got their own mind and began killing humans.Then it's about Children getting killed by the animatronic's owners and then transfered their sould into the animatronics

[@higikatatoshi6627]

I know where this story is going and i am not kidding we are going to see sandman and Lucifer for sure

[@Cuban20]

@@higikatatoshi6627 That's awesome, I hope so

[@Kangaroo-dj3jt]

I think John is the last person who is gonna lose to the universes punishment. Wherever he went he will find a magic to get out.

[@Michaelengelmann]

I wish we saw more of that universe. The quality obviously went down with later movies in that universe.😢 and it was stupid of Batman to not think CyBorg couldn’t have been a double agent for Darkseid since he’s made of the same tech *and as a Batman fan, too many solo Batman movies. And they didn’t even have a SOLO Batman movie.

[@PolarO_O]

well they said they were planning the reboot to occur in only a couple more years and wanted to stretch it with a couple movies but as they werent making any profit from the movies they decided reboot it sooner than expected hence the quality degradation to save more cash on animations and hopefully profit from this new reboot

[@Blackgamer_20]

I agree

[@mhead1117]

His backup plan still saved everyone tho

[@thejunkfoodjunky7533]

I dont think cyborg ever told anybody how he was made

[@Norinia]

@@PolarO_O They weren’t making any money from these movies? That completely sucks, these were some of the best imo. Especially compared to what we’ve been getting recently.

[@s.i.i6765]

How many of us are like Constantine? We hate ourselfs and think we dont deserve anything, so we isolate ourself from the people that actualy care about us. His story is realy relatable to a lot of us.

[@masterofinfinity479]

i used to not be that way, my mom's boyfriend broke me

[@WuanTHAGamer-ji2rl]

He was punished by the Spectre and sent to the house of mystery, which he also escaped and was forced to roam the multiverse to witness the destruction of the multiverse at the hands of the anti monitor. It’s currently unfolding in the new crisis on infinite earth movies

[@jp3711nc1]

Wasn't it a different guy in the comics and in the flash TV series.

[@tjdoescosplay]

John Constantine is my favorite dc character his morality is a joke and he constantly a step a head of everyone And the dude literally plays cards with demons

[@rainbowdragon168]

It would be cool to see him again if the writers are able to make it happen

[@allforone3427]

So basically it's like if Diavolo obtained Requiem but still somehow put himself in the Infinite Death Loop.

[@joserivarola6123]

John is back in the new Crisis on infinite earths part 1 movie if im not mistaken. He takes the role of the doomsday hobo that keeps warning the crime syndicate about the multiverse collapse. At least I think it's him. At one point he tells Flash "We share the same burden" and when he uses his powers his hands shine golden.

[@KittuPaladin]

He's become a Pariah

[@hellsonly8908]

It is him.

[@Cameron_9]

The only thing I don't get is how the Flash goes unpunished for both times he time travels. You can say John took the fall for Barry for what he did in Apokolips War but surely Barry should've been punished for his actions in Flashpoint

[@DC.edit347]

Fr that shit was his fault

[@darkdemonwerewolf]

Ehhh my only reason for disagreeing with flash being punished is more of a pull from young justice. In that show they show that you basically are normally either on the side of tech or magic, and flash is very much on the tech side. John does even point out that it should be a warning to other mages and magic folk, so the crime in question is something of a law against those that use magic. That said yeah this ending sucks. Even if you're going with the whole John hates himself that much and it's why the house imprisonment goes the way it does the specter fails at his job of keeping the punishment in effect. The one that was wronged is not allowed to set the terms of the punishment and the fact the specter doesn't do a thing at the end to stop this from happening is just, really bad. That and let's be honest that would be a better ending. Seeing John struggling to cope with his self hate, knowing he's stuck there proper, and ending on either his own death from his admittance that he can't be happy or forced to just treat himself better and let go of the pain and live out the punishment.

[@josephnewsome2935]

Yeah they should punish the one with the ability to do all that

[@wildkendrick]

The real mastermind behind it was dr manhattan. He manipulated the events and changed what happened.

[@fbiuzz]

Headcanon is because Flash only altered the history of Earth during the Flashpoint Paradox, which is an infinitesally grain of sand compared to the universe. What Constantine told Barry to do was reset the entire history, he basically freed Darksied and Trigon. Yeah the Earth was fucked over, but compare to the universe it was a definite a net good. By doing another Flashpoint, Constantine basically freed both of them.

[@SavorySmegma]

I think the universe sent him to the timeline in the new Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths series, where he was initially shown as an elderly, homeless looking man (still voiced by Matt Ryan)-that trilogy's version of Pariah-who kept warning people about the end of the world as he showed up on different Earths and still had some magical abilities but was forced to just show up to witness deaths and apocalyptic scenarios, until he was triggered into remembering who he actually was, which allowed him to tap into his full magical power and do a "clean up" spell (which also, somehow, de-aged him and made him look like the regular of the character again. The elderly version of him seemed like he had been around for a LONG time and didn’t remember who he was or seem to have any control over where he went or when.

[@yellowsupercar8725]

Well well well

[@abdirahmanibrahimmahamu5409]

I'm surprised That Spectre didn't put demons in the house of mystery to Tormented John but to protect him from Universe

[@pedrocavalcante4939]

DUDE I was JUST thinking about how I wanted to see more Constantine (and DC Magic stuff in general) in your channel! Please keep it up! Zatanna would be an awesome topic too!

[@michaelgutierrez4912]

Is the Universs punishing Constantine by rebooting him to be part of the Tomorrowverse? That's a question I've wanted to be answered.

[@aqn01]

i like that artstyle change is explained by rebooted timeline

[@gitrickt8105]

SPOILER ALERT: He appeared in the recently released DC film "Justice League: Crisis On Infinite Earths Part 1".... after house of mystery, i think he was doomed for eternity to walk to multiple earths n force to watch their destruction. I think Constantine became tomorrowverse's version of Pariah... the character from the comics who freed the anti-monitor and was forced to watch the destruction of multiple earths.

[@tashibalampkin8555]

Damn. That's really sad that all the death and tragedy was John's own doing. Its makes me hurt for him.

[@dezaina9961]

I miss John.

[@alertwolf]

We don't have to wonder what happens to him. In the next DC film on Green Lantern the bum who was about to be set on fire (for talking doom and gloom) was John. So not a good ending for him.

[@rygornspectre7142]

So Constantine tortured himself for centuries upon centuries, ruins his ONE good chance of a happy eternity, gets shit on by the universe and it just ends? That's it?! Without teasing any future projects?

[@WalkerRileyMC]

They 'fixed' it sorta with the release of the Crisis storyline.

[@AJ-xc4qe]

I started watching the DC Animated Movie Universe because I've wanted to see Batman and Superman get their own movies AND follow-ups because I knew we wouldn't get that for a long time. And I just finished them a couple months and I'm now all caught up in the Tomorrowverse. It's amazing how in retrospect, Warner Bros started multiple shared movie universes around the same time. The DCAMU, DCEU, Conjuring Universe and the Monsterverse. Haven't watched the last two, but I know that comparing them, the DCAMU disappointed me the least. Maybe because studio execs don't care about animation, let alone direct to video animation. I wish it lasted 10/11 years instead of just 8 like The Infinity Saga. With more time, we could've gotten a Cyborg movie, a Nightwing movie, a Batwoman movie, a Shazam movie and a Green Lantern movie.

[@dontlikeidiots377]

They actually had Shazam and Green Lantern Animated Movies but Shazam's was short and Green Lantern's wasn't that focused on Hal but the stories of the Green Lantern Corp collectively, with the ending of Emerald Knight, I believe. But, then again it was still short since it didn't have more origin stories.

[@ggt47]

Zatanna definitely looked.. different here.

[@X-Man108]

My personal headcanon is that the new universe after The Apokolips War is the Young Justice universe, instead of the Tomorrowverse, and that is why he isn't in Young Justice, despite all the opportunities for him to show up.

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

I cans at this with pure confidence no matter what it is be it the presence of something even Greater nothing can hold John Constantine even his own worst nightmare couldn't hold him and as such he will get out no matter how many millennia it takes

[@PolarO_O]

They should make him comeback in this reboot probably by him conning even more ppl in that dimension and escaping in a solo movie would love to see it

[@Tobylake-jt6gu]

Well if you watch beware my power there is a homeless dude that kinda looks and sounds like Constantine

[@PolarO_O]

@@Tobylake-jt6gu watched the movie but i guess i missed that easter egg maybe he lost his memories that would be cool

[@chaosmachines934]

did you guys watch Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths, Part Three yet the specter motives to in jail Constantine was justified but spoilers i don't know if he survives the anti-monitor apocalypse

[@danielgrafton93]

Well… crisis on infinite earths part 3 answers this question 😅

[@logan-vq3dm]

im pretty sure he is in the rebooted films? isnt he the homeless guy who keeps telling barry about the end of the world?

[@RomaroBrandon]

I hope the New 52 John Constantine escapes and meets the Tomorrowverse John Constantine in a future film.

[@moomymilkier]

o=so glad your back dude

[@watcherfortruth8319]

Thank you for gracing us with a new video needlemouse! ❤❤

[@mrtony1181]

God I love these movies so much, wish they got more recognition

[@raphaelnowag3960]

fr i dont like the tomorrow verse

[@metal87power]

John imprinted a special spell on Flash's body and sent him to kill baby Darkseid without even touching the young despot, but unknowingly Constantine sentenced entire multiverse to annihilation because Darkseid existence is essential.

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

Could you please do a video on all the times Lex Luthor has gotten superpowers

[@brianbrink8286]

I love that he came back as Pariah in Crisis

[@thehedgehognerd]

Also SPECTRE IS SO F@#$ COOL. I wish we could get more of him....and a live action horror movie.

[@chainz983]

"hes not coming back, this is it" yeah about that....

[@frogmouth2]

While marvel characters are generally more interwoven with eachother, I personally think DC’s B-list is much more interesting. Constantine is a good example.

[@savagegokuman1232]

Great video

[@vmaninc.761]

That is what pissed me off the most about flash's story; as reverse flash pointed out here he basically nearly destroyed The time/space continuum all in a selfish act of saving his mom yet he only gets a slap on the wrist for that, however when constantine in a noble act of wanting to undo the damage that was done in the darkseid war and restore the heroes back to their formal heroic selves encourages flash to go back and create a second flashpoint he gets sentence off to eternity in a hellscape (Unbeknowst to him at the time) of his own making and then sent off to a far worse fate when he escapes from it, the hypocrisy is so unreal it's nauseating! 💯🔥🙄🤬😉👍🏻

[@shadowkinggamerart7960]

Dont worry, the flash is being punished in crisis on infinite earths.

[@GrimNobody]

He has now been cursed to walk worlds doomed to die, per Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths.

[@ColdFuse96]

For those asking why Constantine is harshly punished but Flash isnt, youre wrong, if anything Flash is more severely punished every time he does a Flashpoint. The first Flashpoint was the Thomas Wayne Batman universe and he was originally punished by being stripped of the speed force but still retain his past memories, but was then forced to see Wonder Woman and Aqua Man start a nuclear war, see Captain Atom be used as a nuke, and see everyone he ever loved be killed, and the only way to fix it was to allow his mom to be murdered. The second Flashpoint caused the New 52 universe, which ended with Darkseid capturing and horribly repurposing his friends, the earth was literally destroyed from the inside out, and he was used as a battery to power Darkseid's planet, and it ended with him being forced to cause another Flashpoint just to escape the horrible state the world was left in. I havent seen the Tomorrowverse movies, but we clearly see him traveling to different universes and watch them be destroyed by the Anti Monitor Wall, and apparatus he now has to power a cosmic treadmill to save just one, which leaves him aged to an old man every time he uses it, all with the addition crime of John Constantine forcing him to murder Darkseid as a baby, which is a mandatory canon event to every DC universe.

[@tashibalampkin8555]

1:53 I'm crying. Dude brought a contract saying he got dibs first. 🤣

[@brownwindedangel]

The fact that the universe is so mad makes absolute sense considering it doesn’t matter how beneficial it is in the long run no one would be happy at you altering them with their opinion or consent. Like even if you cure my stage six mega cancer operating on me so deeply and without my consent would make me absolutely pissed with you like A-Train when he found out about them giving him blue hawks heart

[@sk8skii]

if my stage six mega cancer was cured even without consent i'd be fairly happy tbh

[@WalkerRileyMC]

@@sk8skii IKR? There's being angry and then there's being stupid.

[@orkun3844]

John constantine got the William afton treatment fr

[@phillipwalters7702]

John Constantine survives his punishment and does appear in the Tomorrow verse, we just don't know it is him, because he is older and overwhelmed.

[@fearablackheaven1198]

John Constantine was becoming a hard reset for the universe just like Flash they had to find a way to limit him

[@goldencrisp4671]

This is honestly a very sad ending to go by especially after getting the bitter ending in apocalypse war

[@Alienhos]

I'm so glad he is back for the Crisis movies, it makes so much sense, too

[@drahunter213]

Only way I see him escaping the universe is the flash breaking him out lol

[@mhelm0225]

Imagine saving the whole universe and it's like, "You weren't supposed to do that bozo."

[@swaginton1180]

john didn't deserve this punishment I feel. I'm pretty sure it wasn't even his idea to do what he did, it was someone else's if I remember correctly. and it was flash who actually did the reversal of time, john just acted as his road map. A very unfair thing to do to a man who both was ignorant to the consequences of his actions and only did it with the absolute best intentions for literally trillions of lives, all while seemingly being the only one punished for his said actions.

[@blazingdance3612]

John has loads of luck within the supernatural: Survives the impossible and is in the right place at the right time always. And he has loads of unluck outside of the supernatural: Everyone he loves or knows dies all around him. He is forever alone.

[@Lelines0]

I like to think the Universe banished John Constantine to the CW universe.

[@christianjohnson5294]

I say they do a film where he escapes whatever prison the universe put him in. Then he goes back home and tries to catch up on everything that he missed out on.

[@SomethingWittyRW]

If im gonna guess where john got sucked into was the source wall. It's the only possible punishment that could make John react like that.

[@scarface406]

Worse place then hell? Super hell?

[@seriousspikesam7770]

Trigon likes this idea.

[@JThreefingers-ms3kd]

They brought him back as a beggar in every world that dies. He gets to watch the planets die over and over.

[@B_Leo86]

I think this video needs a sequal as the tomorrow-verse continued this story in there version of infinite crisis.

[@TheOGcupcakesniffer]

Was literally just about to write the same

[@sayanking1]

This might be a bit of a stretch be I think John is already in the new universe. The homeless man in the green lantern movie. He sounds like John when he’s first introduced he’s spouting crazy sounding stuff to anyone that’s not in the know of what happened to the previous universe and he’s clinging to the bottle like it’s the only thing that matters. He’s constantly trying to be in a drunk state because it’s the only thing a that numbs the pain of the knowledge he has of the previous universe and the horrors that happened to him

[@NightBane345]

Guess you got your answer in latest DC animated movie with Crisis

[@spetsnaz-vic2398]

Living up to his saying, “No One Ever Gets a Happy ending.”

[@MatawguroRobbie]

I'm guessing he eventually turned into Pariah on Crisis on Infinite Earths.

[@slomkaadas9603]

Definitely deserve MUCH more time!

[@derekteague1314]

Someone told me after that second Flashpoint the animated universe we have now, with man of tomorrow, the Long Halloween and such, is the animated universe we have now.

[@IchiroFuma]

Constantine got caught in a time loop? As shown by his own actions to start the time loop, the way to break out of the time loop would be to convince a demon or something else that can break into his prison, to break in to prevent him from escaping.

[@draklen2244]

Constantine became the universes new pariah. I'd bet just about anything that he's in the upcoming crisis movies.

[@anaceattorneyfangreatgame9770]

Plot twist: this entire sequence IS the hell; and he must permanently live it in loop

[@thomasnolastname8734]

Ah yes. The movie where Starfire got turned into marinara sauce, and Robin was saved by anime tropes

[@masterdef2209]

But wasn't John in the crisis on infinite earths movie. He was "doomed to be on earths that were about to end". Was that this John or was that another one?

[@HerrDerpington]

One and the same. He's the Pariah in the Tomorrowverse.

[@chrisfranklin7547]

“Fink happy foughts” ~ Needlemouse philosophy

[@eznf98]

Only Flash will remember the new 52 and and John

[@aeginsilverblood2070]

Constantine’s not done. His super power isn’t magic, it’s finding loopholes

[@masteryoda7366]

I wish they never rebooted the new 52 universe and just carried on the story with the Kingdom Come storyline, maybe even introduce batman beyond

[@GrifterTheBoyIdiot]

Boy your in for a treat

[@blak238]

In the 3 part movie crisis on infinite earth, it was shown that because john used flash to go back in time to kill darkseid as a baby, it set off the crisis event. John was trapped on the crisis earth with no memory of himself. Crisis on infinite earth part 3 really puts everything together with john Constantine

[@TheHayabusa1604]

I personally think he was made into the next Pariah- forced to watch the deaths of a thousand universes

[@caitlinbrewer4843]

This CAN'T be the end for my boy! He's coming back eventually, and he might just be a lot more dangerous when he does. ...And hopefully with a better design!

[@justincosingan9159]

He should have never asked Barry to make another flashpoint.

[@sensiponics]

And he put a sicknesses curse on the flash to kill a baby darkseid just by being in the same room as he was only weak his 1st year of birth bc he knew even with magic barry woudlnt kill a child willingly

[@AnotherSWnerd]

I didn't even know about this. I thought I saw all the films. Last I watched was apocalypse war

[@Nova_Stuff]

Honestly I want more underrated DC characters to appear in animated media, one of them is Tim Drake as Red Robin, not robin.

[@takainof]

we now know where he got thrown away, to every earth on a brink of destruction

[@GuardianKyle]

Here after Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 2.

[@yulianloaiza]

Is it streaming already?

[@trippyeyes1477]

Damn....I was so sure he'd be one of if not the only person in the new universe who remembers the old. They did him dirty.

[@JAKEAVALON-rg8xm]

I know where he has been I am a Time Traveller he send to all multiverse that he created and the worse part is he got remove his memory.

[@moilevin7088]

“The universe is powerful thing that is.” What about The Presence, The Great Darkness, Lucifer, Michael or literally everyone who is a universe buster in DC.

[@serenitydoesthings]

I did not not understood the ending like this To me it seemed more like he was thrown into the new universe. Where he first will have a great life and then everything crumbles once again apart

[@nathanbell8415]

The way that energy was I think it was ether the new timeline setting in erasing the old one sending John into a limbo type place but there is a theroy that in behold my power there’s a crazy man shouting about everyone being dead and he’s drinking a lot a lot of people think this is actually John in the new universe but powerless and was given his memories as a punishment since no one believes him which I prefer because it means John is still in the universe just driven crazy with memories from another universe My theroy is is kinda connected with the previous one with the crazy man one however what drove him made was he saw the energy of the (universe) but was actually the anti matter wave beginning to wipe things out and he’s become the pariah of this universe witnessing universe after universe wiped out so when he was this crazy man it’s because he’s already witnessed worlds destoryed

[@serenitydoesthings]

@@nathanbell8415 oh thats interesting. I cant remember the guy. what did he look like...or when did he appear? oh damn that sounds... I just want to see him again. and hopefully reuniting with Zatanna too

[@nathanbell8415]

@@serenitydoesthings apparently it was just at the beginning of the film it’s in a alley he’s a bearded guy same accent as John as well it was the new green lantern film bewere my power look it up on KZbin John Constantine in beware my power and you’ll see the video of the theroy

[@serenitydoesthings]

@@nathanbell8415 thanks i will check!

[@serenitydoesthings]

@@nathanbell8415 just watched it. damn thats really interesting. i do hope its not john. it would be interesting if some randos also maintained their memories. but i guess this doesnt make sense I kinda feel like he looks a bit too old but then again john often looks older than he actually is

[@foomongus2935]

he is brought back now for the DCAU crisis on infinite earths

[@koro_kokoro]

Well it wasn’t the end. He was forced to watch the crisis in those new movies

[@coglineerro730]

Its not hell. He asks Spectre to kill him which would send him to hell, a place he knows well and would eventually escape from. I find this ending truly the worst possible ending to give such a tortured character. It would have been a great movie if he learned that his magic was what caused his pain. Now, it didn't start his eternal cycle of pain, but its what powers the wheel of pain. The actual reason he couldn't survive trapped for all eternity in the House of Mystery was his fear of being contained and trapped. That's why he hops from relationship to relationship and why he seeks escapes through drugs and magic. I would have preferred they ended it with Spectre explaining that it wasn't a punishment, but a way for him to rest in a way he couldn't in death and just simply strip him of his memories, especially those of magic, and allow him to remain in the house with non magical versions of his friends, finally finding the peace he may not deserve, but truly has earned through sacrifice.

[@brandonmelrose288]

I know it's yrs later and you even called this, but the new crisis movie with flash, i think the hobo was Constantine with his cryptic talk about punishment

[@hellsonly8908]

Its him.