Pilot Ejects Safely in Dramatic F-35A Crash in Alaska

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C.W. Lemoine

C.W. Lemoine

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@jochenheiden
@jochenheiden 10 күн бұрын
And thanks to my KC-135 maintainer brothers for always being ready to record on their unauthorized cell phones!! 😂
@pars5027
@pars5027 10 күн бұрын
Whoever posted this video, should be arrested and court-martialed.
@maverickmissile801
@maverickmissile801 10 күн бұрын
😂😂
@kujiro352
@kujiro352 10 күн бұрын
😂😂 shhh 🫥😅
@jochenheiden
@jochenheiden 10 күн бұрын
@ 🤫
@uwekonnigsstaddt524
@uwekonnigsstaddt524 10 күн бұрын
The IMC is happy to replace it 😂
@ryanw1433
@ryanw1433 10 күн бұрын
AP reported it suffered “significant damage” in the understatement of the week.
@owensparks5013
@owensparks5013 10 күн бұрын
Before or after merging with its own shadow?
@countzero7
@countzero7 10 күн бұрын
"rapid unscheduled disassembly"
@Kubose
@Kubose 10 күн бұрын
Yeah I see "significant damage" and I'm thinking it was a landing gear collapse or something, not a full test of Earth's gravity.
@cricri7066
@cricri7066 10 күн бұрын
Damage limited to the entire airframe?
@mcloutier5
@mcloutier5 10 күн бұрын
AP reported what the air force stated.
@Ifoughtpiranhas
@Ifoughtpiranhas 10 күн бұрын
When an A model wants so badly to be a B model, but fails miserably.
@briancooper2112
@briancooper2112 10 күн бұрын
Yeah right!
@DarkTaylick
@DarkTaylick 10 күн бұрын
I don’t know if I should 😂 or 😭 from that comment
@Bournesax
@Bournesax 10 күн бұрын
XD
@Emma-i9x
@Emma-i9x 10 күн бұрын
Now I like that to see with wanting to be a C version
@existentialselkath1264
@existentialselkath1264 10 күн бұрын
I thought for sure this was a B, how the hell...
@ronaldschoolcraft8654
@ronaldschoolcraft8654 10 күн бұрын
"It should not be flying like this." It wasn't flying. It wasn't even falling with style. It was just falling.
@nicolassanchez8318
@nicolassanchez8318 10 күн бұрын
I see what you did there Woody
@korana6308
@korana6308 10 күн бұрын
MiG-15 style. (2nd gen craft).
@HDSME
@HDSME 10 күн бұрын
Nice glide racio
@afrog2666
@afrog2666 10 күн бұрын
@@HDSME Ratio*
@warboyrb
@warboyrb 9 күн бұрын
It's flailing
@H4rry82
@H4rry82 10 күн бұрын
As an Egress guy myself, congrats to all the Egress guys/gals who worked on and serviced that seat, enjoy those beers. What we do matters and saves lives
@JOEM747
@JOEM747 10 күн бұрын
& AFE!
@414Chevy
@414Chevy 10 күн бұрын
The ejection seat is one of those things you hope you never need, but pray that it works if you have to use it.
@sirclarkmarz
@sirclarkmarz 10 күн бұрын
I was a Navy PR 76 to 85
@wyateerp1
@wyateerp1 9 күн бұрын
@@sirclarkmarz What Squadron ? AMH here,"75-81"
@sirclarkmarz
@sirclarkmarz 9 күн бұрын
@@wyateerp1 VF-121, VAW -88 and VF-301 and a lot of time that AIMD paralloft Miramar .
@danielblea3520
@danielblea3520 10 күн бұрын
with the location of the pilot in that video it looks as if he ejected and the plane went positive vertical and then stalled out, the pilot is clearly behind and below at the start of the video
@chriscummings4206
@chriscummings4206 10 күн бұрын
Another channel supposes that the pilot was still able to control the aircraft enough to go vertical to get more altitude to eject............
@granthancock3622
@granthancock3622 10 күн бұрын
@chriscummings4206 and perhaps in an attempt to control post-eject trajectory of the aircraft to avoid collateral.
@geronimo5537
@geronimo5537 10 күн бұрын
there is more than enough thrust for these jets to pull out of a stall. they can even hold their own weight and gain speed from 0 holding position in the air. either there was a major failure on the pilot's part or the jet stopped working for some reason. Maintenance and Pilot are in for many months of questioning.
@daffidavit
@daffidavit 10 күн бұрын
@chriscummings4206 Yep, I saw that too.
@danielblea3520
@danielblea3520 10 күн бұрын
@@geronimo5537it will try to keep you out of the stall yes, but when the plane is at pattern altitude you don't have the vertical space to pull out of a stall. I think it was a flight control computer failure. The plane was at nearly full thrust when it hit the ground. I think he lost control of the jet, ejected when it departed controlled flight and it did the rest on its own
@joelhammond814
@joelhammond814 9 күн бұрын
The Air Force thanks the cameraman for the great footage and then rewards them with an Article 15. 😂
@wyldhowl2821
@wyldhowl2821 9 күн бұрын
"I was just crowd-sourcing an accident investigation."
@Rex-ii2yz
@Rex-ii2yz 10 күн бұрын
You hear the engine die as soon as it hits the ground, It sounded like it still had power until impact. Its most likely a flight computer/controls failure the way it has departed flight like that. Hell, I wonder if the 35 can have a static/ram air failure. Looking forward to the swiss cheese diagram on what caused this.
@Knightfang1
@Knightfang1 10 күн бұрын
that's what I'm thinking as well. unexpected and Un commanded flight control inputs? although that usually doesn't happen at the end of a flight. I'm thinking of the B-2 that crashed on takeoff from Guam.
@bluestraw4060
@bluestraw4060 10 күн бұрын
has to be something that is or leads to flight controls failure. you can see those surfaces aren't moving an inch when they have every excuse to
@slickstrings
@slickstrings 10 күн бұрын
​@@bluestraw4060 If you watch it in slow mo, it looks like they are deflecting somewhat. Though its hard to tell because of the video quality. If the commander's press release is anything to go by, the jet was heading back with a problem and it either deteriorated or caused loss of control when it got to the airfield. Flight control systems are multiple redundant and you would think wouldnt result in this happening but... there doesnt seem to be any bits missing. So what else could it be? maybe loss of hydraulic power? that could explain how it was able to make it back. Hydraulic leaks usually dont cause instant and total loss. Its usually a gradual loss in pressure with every movement. Not sure. All we can do is speculate.
@steveanderson9290
@steveanderson9290 10 күн бұрын
The reason for the seemingly synchronous loss of engine noise could be because of the camera's audio AGC (automatic gain control). I.E. it figuratively slapped it's hands over it's ears when it heard that big sound.
@Angryspec
@Angryspec 10 күн бұрын
Flight controls was my specialty when I was in. That could happen on an older flight control system, but not on a modern design. They are almost always quad redundant. If it was flying fine the whole flight up until this point I highly doubt it’s a flight control failure. The only times I have seen a flight control issue on a quad redundant system that caused flight problems it was always someone entering data incorrectly in various ways. Like CG data or calibrating a pitot error when there was water in the probes *cough* B-2.
@spooky2bricks
@spooky2bricks 10 күн бұрын
Another great breakdown Mover, unfortunate events like this will always ruffle peoples feathers one way or another. First and foremost, I’m glad to hear the pilot managed to eject safely and hopefully something can be leaned from this to prevent future mishaps once the AIB concludes. As always, thanks for the analysis given the limited information.
@RL.1
@RL.1 10 күн бұрын
"The aircraft is at a very unusual attitude." Fuckin' LOL.
@justliberty4072
@justliberty4072 9 күн бұрын
Vertical Landing
@CrashTestPilot
@CrashTestPilot 10 күн бұрын
Martin-Baker wins again. Now he gets a snazzy tie.
@briancooper2112
@briancooper2112 10 күн бұрын
Unless different company made seat.
@jaydeister9305
@jaydeister9305 10 күн бұрын
"The Brits are a Clever Lot!"
@danzevg
@danzevg 10 күн бұрын
It's a watch ... or have they been a victim of cost cutting?
@robd2184
@robd2184 10 күн бұрын
@@jaydeister9305, cheers bro
10 күн бұрын
Tie, patch, certificate, tie pin, and membership card, with optional watch at pilot cost.
@christoffermonikander2200
@christoffermonikander2200 10 күн бұрын
It sort of reminds me of the JAS 39 Gripen crash in Stockholm, August 1993. It too went from simple forward flight to just fall straight down like a leaf with no forward motion. That was caused by error in the fly by wire system and the flight computer. Glad the pilot got out in this one.
@Torgrim5958
@Torgrim5958 10 күн бұрын
Heard it described as "The software code arrived at a place where there was no instructions on what to do" Might be the same. That thing just stopped flying and fell to the ground.
@vipvip-tf9rw
@vipvip-tf9rw 10 күн бұрын
​@@Torgrim5958always update your jet to latest firmware before each flight
@bodan1196
@bodan1196 9 күн бұрын
As I understand it, there was an element of PIO, pilot induced oscillation. Same as the first crash. Also the same pilot. As it came out of a gentle slow left turn, the nose dipped and the wings rolled a few degrees to the right. This was then followed by the opposite, nose up left roll. Then again low/right, after which the nose went almost vertical and the airspeed dropped to nothing. This was when the pilot ejected. The oscillation looked really weird to me. Had it happend ten fifteen seconds earlier, I might not be here to type this comment...
@RedLine0069
@RedLine0069 9 күн бұрын
maybe he stopped for a windows update .... P.S. - Movie reference
@leosmith848
@leosmith848 9 күн бұрын
@@Torgrim5958 I write code. I had just such a bug once, Was a hardware fault corrupting IO addressing. It sure can happen. I know there are supposed to be 4 computers but...
@DJSoundspectrum
@DJSoundspectrum 10 күн бұрын
I was waiting on this vid from you. So much deeper than everyone else's.
@shawn2443
@shawn2443 10 күн бұрын
As always THANK YOU Mover……. You get many requests because you make these break downs in a clean, unbiased, professional and easy to understand first look. GOD Bless our military 🇺🇸 and Martin-Baker 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@RetiredEE
@RetiredEE 10 күн бұрын
Did the pilot sound tense before the ife or is that normal noise?
@aralaX_K
@aralaX_K 10 күн бұрын
God bless Your military? Which military are you referring to, Sir? The one who is completely incapable of defeat the Houthis? With all due respect, Sir, but the whole world laughing at your military, and not only that.
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 10 күн бұрын
@@aralaX_K You're babbling nonsense.
@antwango
@antwango 10 күн бұрын
@@aralaX_K right there was 3 F35 accidents this year alone!!!! 1 fell off a carrier in the black sea ok not this yr! and another fell off a carrier outside chinas doorstep! the VTOL variant bunny hopped and crashed recently the dude was just a few feet off the ground too and was only at base FFS!!! This plane is notorious for being shite that even their own Americans make fun of it!! The navy dont want it and its notrious for being on the ground more than the air!!!! And this proves it!!!!! The plane wants to be on the ground!!!!
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 9 күн бұрын
@ You need to upgrade your knowledge. They've only lost 11 airframes since 2006 with approaching 1,000,000 flight hours flying in service all around the world.. 1 loss in 2025 1 loss in 2024 1 loss 2023 3 in 2022 1 UK loss in 2021 2 2020 1 Japan loss-only pilot fatality 2019 1 loss 2018 During the 3 years of 1991, 1992, 1993 there were 112 F-16's that were lost. hence the nickname the "lawndart".
@worthvapor7296
@worthvapor7296 9 күн бұрын
Gotta love how far martin-bakers seats have come, heard the pilot sustained little to no injuries from the ejection.
@pollylewis9611
@pollylewis9611 10 күн бұрын
Holy Crap is right, I was hoping you were going to give your input into this, you explain what the aircraft was doing and when something horrible went wrong I will really be interested in what happened, and so happy to hear the pilot ejected and was safe from getting hit or land in the debris. Thank you Mover.
@iamscoutstfu
@iamscoutstfu 10 күн бұрын
The engine audio cuts out pretty dramatically after impact. It doesnt trail off.
@michaelrunnels7660
@michaelrunnels7660 10 күн бұрын
Yup.
10 күн бұрын
True that. That usually happens with a RUD.
@johnh9637
@johnh9637 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for this. It's nice to year a KZbin reviewer say "I have no idea" when it is what's appropriate. Glad the pilot got out ok.
@jimveybe7689
@jimveybe7689 10 күн бұрын
The jet engine noise was from the crashed fighter, not from his wingman, as evidenced by the abrupt cessation of the noise upon impact.
@weedfreer
@weedfreer 9 күн бұрын
The other jet would have been at least about a mile away and would also likely have gained a fair amount of height from the airfield by the point of impact. I've been witness to an airshow featuring one of these things doing maneuvers at extremely low levels in the UK while it flew over the show ground while I was at my folks house around 3-4 miles away. The engines were rattling the windows it was that loud. That said, as soon as they'd gained height and were not throttling up, you couldn't hear them half as much. The noise at the start could have been either. But, by the time it was about to/actually hit the deck, the only noise would've been from it, as, as you quite rightly point out, is evidenced by the relative silence after the impact.
@icaleinns6233
@icaleinns6233 10 күн бұрын
That was the most bizarre looking crash I think I've ever seen. To see Mover baffled by it too reinforces to me just how truly strange this was.
@tiffles3890
@tiffles3890 9 күн бұрын
I watched the footage. It kind of felt as if some giant hand that was holding the aircraft above the ground simply let it go.
@Machlooper
@Machlooper 10 күн бұрын
Got to be the engine noise from the crash jet because it stops instantly when it hits .
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 10 күн бұрын
Sound stops about 2 seconds post impact approx. 1/3 of a mile from the camera. 6 seconds to the mile. I agree it had to be the crash birds engine noise.
@Latter-Day-Aint
@Latter-Day-Aint 10 күн бұрын
It's kinda funny to read the comments on other videos from self-proclaimed experts stating with confident certainty that it was a VTOL failure. The video title clearly states it's an Air Force base and a F-35A. They must be relying on their experience flying the F-160 Raiju.
@graveperil2169
@graveperil2169 10 күн бұрын
the Video is of a F-35A having a VTOL failure
@Latter-Day-Aint
@Latter-Day-Aint 10 күн бұрын
In this case, you must mean Velocity Took Over, Launched into deck.
@xfreedombuckO5x
@xfreedombuckO5x 10 күн бұрын
@@graveperil2169 F-35A don't have VTOL...
@wmouse
@wmouse 10 күн бұрын
@@xfreedombuckO5x That explains why it's having a VTOL failure. :)
@mmedved5567
@mmedved5567 9 күн бұрын
Comments are from video game boys living in mommie's basement.
@Fox3-Luck
@Fox3-Luck 10 күн бұрын
Nice breakdown Mover, thank you
@talia6442
@talia6442 9 күн бұрын
This happened where I live. So grateful the pilot made it out alive.
@tomwilson1006
@tomwilson1006 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for covering this Mover!
@lagrangewei
@lagrangewei 9 күн бұрын
as long as the pilot is safe. my country lost an F16 last year, sensor broke, FBW could not maintain stable flight, pilot eject safely... these are complicated machines.
@crazypetec-130fe7
@crazypetec-130fe7 10 күн бұрын
Another wild theory about the parachute being below the plane: maybe it was rolling out of control and when he punched out it was inverted.
@RobertsWorkbench2023
@RobertsWorkbench2023 10 күн бұрын
True, but look how far below the plane that chute is, fully deployed, and with how fast the plane was dropping. My initial thought was that it was somewhat vertical when they punched out. Pilot goes out horizontal, plane keeps going up and then falls, which would explain the erratic looking spin and little to no "forward" airspeed
@rodneywallace2984
@rodneywallace2984 9 күн бұрын
​@@RobertsWorkbench2023 my thoughts exactly
@michaelbarnard8529
@michaelbarnard8529 7 күн бұрын
@@RobertsWorkbench2023that would also help explain the zero airspeed if it pulled up into a stall.
@DarthSchlemminator
@DarthSchlemminator 10 күн бұрын
I thought about messaging you about this but figure someone else already did. Still crazy watching how out of control that jet was, glad the pilot made it.
@moshe_nativ
@moshe_nativ 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the update, Mover. MB with another save.
@Jaybird563
@Jaybird563 10 күн бұрын
Saw another channel make a video on this today… said to myself, ahhh I’ll wait for C.W Lemoine🤣
@Latter-Day-Aint
@Latter-Day-Aint 10 күн бұрын
I said the same thing last night! I knew Mover and Ward Carroll will fill us in with reliable commentary.
@boellis241
@boellis241 10 күн бұрын
Mover, Mooch, and Blancolirio. The go-to sources. Thank you gentlemen.
@ryanw1433
@ryanw1433 10 күн бұрын
@@Jaybird563 CW or Blancolirio!
@seldoon_nemar
@seldoon_nemar 10 күн бұрын
The fighter pilot Juan Brown is back!
@michaelrunnels7660
@michaelrunnels7660 10 күн бұрын
F-35s have a 1% Class A mishap rate (11 aircraft). That's quite a bit better than the 23% Class A accident rate for the U.S. F-14s (144 aircraft).
@GodWentAFK
@GodWentAFK 10 күн бұрын
Facts never matter to sensationalists, though. People who believe the plane is a failure are never going to change their minds
@adrianmadden2207
@adrianmadden2207 10 күн бұрын
Cost per airplane is what exactly? Mishap percentage rate even at 11 per still too high… F35 DOC’s per hour isn’t even in the reasonable rate… 2lbs of shit in a 1 pound bag is a better analogy…
@michaelrunnels7660
@michaelrunnels7660 9 күн бұрын
@@adrianmadden2207 In 1988 the F-14D cost $78 million each. That's $207 million in today's dollars. $78 million times 144 aircraft is $11.2 billion dollars lost due to accidents, along with 68 aircrew killed. That's $30 Billion in today's dollars. The F-35 costs an average of approximately $90 million dollars. $90 million times 11 aircraft lost due to accidents is about $990 million dollars, with 1 pilot killed. The F-35 has the lowest accident record of any American fighter since World War 1. What accident rate is acceptable to you?
@frugalaudio
@frugalaudio 9 күн бұрын
11 over how many years and how many aircraft delivered vs 144 over how many years and how many aircraft delivered?
@michaelrunnels7660
@michaelrunnels7660 9 күн бұрын
@@frugalaudio The accidents stats are for 633 F-14s over 34 years vs approximately 1,100 F-35s over 14 years. BTW in 11 F-35 accident loses, 5 were F-35A, 5 were F-35B, and 1 was F-35C.
@scott_meyer
@scott_meyer 10 күн бұрын
$100 million became $0 real fast.
@leepatterson5710
@leepatterson5710 10 күн бұрын
An expensive bonfire. I know it is winter in Alaska but you would hope the USAF has better heaters.
@korana6308
@korana6308 10 күн бұрын
It's not even 100 million. They are pretty much lying about the price. If 2 trillion supposed cost for 2000 crafts is true ( over it's lifetime) then it's price is 1 billion...
@ObiWanShinobi917
@ObiWanShinobi917 9 күн бұрын
The F-35 is 82.5 million. For the love of God use google
@superphi
@superphi 9 күн бұрын
Only $100 million that’s a bargain
@haroldcruz8550
@haroldcruz8550 9 күн бұрын
I disagree, It actually perfectly performed what it was designed for and more, it disappeared completely from the radar.
@Kelly-oq9nh
@Kelly-oq9nh 10 күн бұрын
God bless those who serve our country. I’m thankful for every one of you.
@mattcallaway7164
@mattcallaway7164 10 күн бұрын
Glad the pilot ejected successfully! Breaks my heart though to see that full-figured gorgeous lady named Amy meet such an unfortunate demise.
@BeckTools
@BeckTools 10 күн бұрын
thanks for the video. I've seen a lot of coverage but to be honest I've been waiting for yours cause I trust it the most. :)
@facilitatinghappiness
@facilitatinghappiness 10 күн бұрын
Also, I thought it was interesting that the pilot was already below the jet during the initial capture. It eventually passes through...
@mrgreenjeens
@mrgreenjeens 10 күн бұрын
I thought the same. Wonder if they ejected on the way straight up, then the jet got to zero airspeed and departed.
@ancientgamer541
@ancientgamer541 10 күн бұрын
The plane propably gained alltitude after ejection. The straight down tumbling of the plane kind of suggest that the plane only had vertical speed when it stalled. At least something like that.
@cameronwebster6866
@cameronwebster6866 9 күн бұрын
Or the plane was upside down when he ejected.
@Fanatic1704
@Fanatic1704 9 күн бұрын
@@cameronwebster6866 flat turn > catch bird > stall > eject upside down
@Mr59Kenzo
@Mr59Kenzo 9 күн бұрын
always enjoy your concise non-speculative rundown your review are always as informative as is possible. Thank you Mover
@auntykriest
@auntykriest 10 күн бұрын
Thrust you can trust! Kudos Eielson Egress shop!
@perspicator5779
@perspicator5779 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the update!
@lonnywilcox445
@lonnywilcox445 10 күн бұрын
The lack of forward movement is strange. Objects in motion tend to stay in motion absent an outside force acting on the object. The appearance of the plane at an altitude higher than the pilot in the parachute is likely that the pilot pulled up when he realized he was in trouble to gain some altitude and ejected before the plane reached the altitude before it dropped like a rock.
@paradoxicalcat7173
@paradoxicalcat7173 9 күн бұрын
Newton resulted in some bad physicists and aerodynamicists. It's an unstable FBW aircraft. There are a whole raft of reasons for zero airspeed. Unfortunately there is insufficient video showing what happened earlier in the chain of events. The pilot may have ejected inverted. The aircraft may have performed a loop after the pilot left the aircraft. There are several non-obvious causes of why the aircraft is above the pilot.
@queazocotal
@queazocotal 10 күн бұрын
Flashed the B firmware on the A model.
@MythicFrost
@MythicFrost 10 күн бұрын
I head someting about Full system blackout... sounds like BSOD =)
@leosmith848
@leosmith848 9 күн бұрын
LOL. the crazy thing is, you might be right...
@MavHunter20XX
@MavHunter20XX 9 күн бұрын
First of all, thank God the Pilot didn't try to take the USMC commandant suggestion that the pilot should have kept troubleshooting; instead elected to eject. So I'm seeing comments saying, "Unlikely the aircraft malfunctioned, must have been catastrophic, like FOD engine ingestion." Well, they need to look at all the previous F35 mishaps. While it could have been a bird to engine interaction, there are instances where it's the jet malfunction devoid of outside influence. One thing to think about, this is in the one of the coldest parts of the USA, during the coldest seasons, I wonder if its a frozen AOA sensor.
@ModernVintage31
@ModernVintage31 9 күн бұрын
Is this the same commandant that relieved Del Pizzo? Also - sensors, man. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if the failure of one was causal in this incident. My father did some work for the space program and he’s got lots of stories about faulty sensors crapping the bed.
@MavHunter20XX
@MavHunter20XX 7 күн бұрын
@@ModernVintage31 SO I finally saw the AIB commentary by CWL on the Hill AFB F35 crash. It says it was cause by wake turbulance. Also stated MAC departed controlled flight. I wonder.
@MrMaxyield
@MrMaxyield 9 күн бұрын
Was waiting on this video....Mover made the video 9hrs ago! 🤣🤣 Always keeping us informed, with pure facts and never speculation or bias. . Its the reason we're all here. Now I'm waiting on the following videos..
@ruipedro4424
@ruipedro4424 10 күн бұрын
Thanks Mover. Best regards, mate.
@richieismyhero
@richieismyhero 10 күн бұрын
Wow that is scary! Thanks for this Mover
@KernitTheFont
@KernitTheFont 10 күн бұрын
'Can we get Kvochur Bell manoeuvre, chief?' 'We have Kvochur Bell manoeuvre at home'
@AvengerBB1
@AvengerBB1 10 күн бұрын
When the video first popped up for me I thought it was an R/C aircraft at first losing power and being pushed by the wind. The fireball killed that idea. Just damn. I'm glad the pilot was able to punch out.
@RedTail1-1
@RedTail1-1 10 күн бұрын
Wow. I've never seen an aircraft fall out of the sky like that. They normally keep the same attitude or they are in a flat spin. Never seen any rolling while falling straight down.
@jimmieusaf-pol5818
@jimmieusaf-pol5818 10 күн бұрын
I thought the same thing, and thought it was very weird it wasn't moving forward at all, with what sounded like more than enough engine thrust to do that. I just thought after typing that line, maybe it's possible that if there was some type of complete control malfunction, the controls were all in a position to slow/stop any forward movement, and/or just make it roll like it did.
@bobsurgranny
@bobsurgranny 10 күн бұрын
it's Ai that's why.. yes the crash occurred but this is a fake take on it. How can nobody notice how badly fake it is!?
@MACE1-1
@MACE1-1 10 күн бұрын
Fat Amy falls gracefully....
@APMtube9000
@APMtube9000 10 күн бұрын
@@bobsurgranny Pretty sure the AFB reported the crash officially. So.. not ai. "nobody notice[s]" because it is a very real video of a jet crashing. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@kiwidiesel
@kiwidiesel 10 күн бұрын
​@@bobsurgrannyai😂😂😂🧢
@michaellingg1852
@michaellingg1852 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for your take. I think we are all pretty much thinking the same thing, but it is good to hear from a professional in the field that the thoughts are pretty much the same thing... "It should not be flying like this."
@JonBrase
@JonBrase 10 күн бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen real-world video of that kind of departure. I mostly associate it with something like clipping a mountaintop in a sim that doesn't model destruction of the airframe in collisions. In any case, when I see it in simulator flights, it usually results from events that would break up the airframe or bend it beyond recognition IRL. How on *Earth* did that happen in the pattern???
@paradoxicalcat7173
@paradoxicalcat7173 9 күн бұрын
I guess FBW is far beyond the ability of most to understand. The aircraft is unstable by design, and can do things you wouldn't think an aircraft can do, and requires the FBW to make it stable. Hence weirdness like this where there is a FCS failure/fault/problem.
@mage3690
@mage3690 Күн бұрын
"Unstable" in this context would mean, I think, that the aircraft wants to fly backwards. The instant FBW fails, controlling the aircraft is a lot like balancing a broom on one finger -- it _really_ wants to _hang_ from your finger, not sit on top of it.
@jasonjenkins-ferris
@jasonjenkins-ferris 9 күн бұрын
Martin Baker blows me away. IDK what their success rate is, but I think the only unsuccessful one I know of was that one you talked about where maintenance had been delayed 3x. That's not MB's fault IMHO. Also, the speed / reaction time of you guys (fighter pilots) always amazes me. seems this sh*t can happen in an instant and it's amazing how many ppl in these situations make it out alive. Much respect to MB and fighter pilots.
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk 10 күн бұрын
Welp, there’s goes my bonus next year.
@blakena4907
@blakena4907 9 күн бұрын
Ohhh man I've been waiting for this after that crazy tumble.
@RobertLongsocks
@RobertLongsocks 10 күн бұрын
God help the maintainer who recorded AND posted this before the flames were even put out. Buddy just got the entire flightline hours of reaming and extra training
@wll1500
@wll1500 9 күн бұрын
OPSEC is a thing of the past lmao
@robinwier
@robinwier 9 күн бұрын
I believe Bronco Juan speculated that the pilot might have pulled straight up before ejection (to gain altitude), thus eventually showing the jet above the successful chute, and falling straight down. Makes sense to me.
@who2u333
@who2u333 10 күн бұрын
Wondering what happened that made the crew want to get their phone out and start recording. And have the time.
@johnp2110
@johnp2110 9 күн бұрын
Excited for the new book mover!
@RamblingRodeo
@RamblingRodeo 10 күн бұрын
Thank goodness that the pilot was able to eject, what a WILD video.
@steelfaith99
@steelfaith99 10 күн бұрын
I’m glad the pilot is ok!
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 10 күн бұрын
Computer malfunction for sure. The computer decided to do something wonky, pilot realized he is going to die unless he pulls the handle and here we are. "the computer says no"
@malekodesouza7255
@malekodesouza7255 10 күн бұрын
“I can’t do that, Dave.”
@rykehuss3435
@rykehuss3435 10 күн бұрын
@@malekodesouza7255 its actually a british sketch, pretty funny, look it up "computer says no"
@str33tkng
@str33tkng 10 күн бұрын
@@malekodesouza7255the good ol’ movie stealth.
@babygrrlpc5057
@babygrrlpc5057 10 күн бұрын
I’ve been waiting to be able to see your take on this. Your explanations are so helpful. Frankly, watching that thing roll made me sick to my stomach. Looked like a paper airplane.
@Turboy65
@Turboy65 9 күн бұрын
Constructive criticism: When commenting on a video like this, FIRST play the video COMPLETELY THROUGH so we can see it uninterrupted, THEN go back and play it and pause and comment, resume play, pause and comment, etc....this makes for happier viewers because many of us haven't seen the original video until now, and want to see it run straight through before watching it for three seconds at a stretch between commentary.
@mortlet5180
@mortlet5180 9 күн бұрын
You realize what you're asking for would put his entire channel at risk from copyright strikes, right? There's a reason most KZbin channels, that are older than a couple of years, do commentary/reaction content without playing the original content uninterrupted and in full.
@paradoxicalcat7173
@paradoxicalcat7173 9 күн бұрын
@@mortlet5180 What is there copyright about a video published online? It's public domain. If YT can't handle that without problems, that's YT problem.
@evancrum6811
@evancrum6811 10 күн бұрын
Thanks as always for the breakdown Mover
@mobeus5019
@mobeus5019 10 күн бұрын
How did the plane end up so high above the Pilot in the chute? Did he trade airspeed for altitude for the punch out?
@bluestraw4060
@bluestraw4060 10 күн бұрын
i think he punched out, plane went out of control and climbed for a sec before tumbling down
@geodkyt
@geodkyt 10 күн бұрын
Exactly my thought. Yeah, that canopy is designed to open *NOW* , but he was WAY below the AC, under a full canopy, falling apparently in close proximity to the dead bird. Almost like he was going straight vertically (maybe stalling out already) when he ejected, and the plane just gave up all aerodynamic lift right after he got out. I mean, weirder shit has happened (Cornfield Bomber), but still...
@thefogg
@thefogg 8 күн бұрын
i think the AF will look into this video and the black box for the investigation. with this perspective, i'd rule it out. until the box is analyzed
@Impulse21s
@Impulse21s 9 күн бұрын
That Amy looks like it hit an invisible wall. That thing dropped straight down. No arc , no glide. Scary stuff. Glad the Pilot's ok. Thx Mover.
@RubenKelevra
@RubenKelevra 10 күн бұрын
Clearly the engine was running, as the noise stops after impact
@blackhawku
@blackhawku 8 күн бұрын
Been a busy week in aviation! Praying for all family and victims!
@Gilbertmk2
@Gilbertmk2 10 күн бұрын
It there's ever an illustration of "departed controlled flight" this is it.
@stevedimartino683
@stevedimartino683 9 күн бұрын
Great job explaining, thank God the pilot is OK
@mikeck4609
@mikeck4609 10 күн бұрын
I’ve had it with the F-35 hate I’m seeing on other channels discussing this….as if other jets don’t crash. If you look at mishap rate per flight hours, the F-35 is one of the safest combat aircraft ever. If you think this crash is a reflection of the F-35, do everyone a favor and go look at the mishap rate for the F-16 from 1978-1983 (its first 6 years in service). Or look at the rate of F-14 crashes from 1974-1979. You can’t even imagine the rate for the older century series aircraft. Perspective people. Jets are complicated machines. Flying a high performance jet is dangerous business and - as William Sherman would say- “there is no use trying to reform it”
@mikeck4609
@mikeck4609 10 күн бұрын
Btw, I’m not directing this at you mover…I’m posting here because yours is one of the more popular of the sites I’ve seen this reported on. And it’s not the host../its people in the comments lamenting that we should have just bought more F-16s since the F-35s “keep crashing”
@jasonpeacock9735
@jasonpeacock9735 10 күн бұрын
The F-35 gets bad press. One goes down and it’s front page news for a few days. A 15/16/18 goes down and it will barely get a blip in the press.
@michaelrunnels7660
@michaelrunnels7660 10 күн бұрын
F-35s have a 1% Class A mishap rate (11 aircraft). That's quite a bit better than the 23% Class A accident rate for the U.S. F-14s (144 aircraft).
@Albertkallal
@Albertkallal 9 күн бұрын
@@michaelrunnels7660 Just as a update? Including all airframes lost in total? That number is now up to 13 lost. However, EVEN counting the airframes lost due to pilot errors, and not some failure on the F35? We still at this right now: More than 1000 F35’s made now. That’s more than Typhoon/Eurofighter, more than Rafale. Accident rates: (Class A rates) F15: 2.36 per 100,000 hours F-22: 5.49 per 100,000 hours F18: 2.84 per 100,000 hours F16: 3.45 per 100,000 hours Harrier: 11.4 per 100,000 hours F35: 1.33 per 100,000 hours
@otgunz
@otgunz 8 күн бұрын
@@Albertkallal I have an objection. Many of those losses from earlier platforms happened to planes that were being used harshly in dogfight and extreme manouvers. So wear and tear were much higher for any legacy F16's or F14's etc. in short term. Yet people await from F35's to have a nice supercruise to the planned attitude and then drop bombs, fire missiles or give combat monitoring then return. They generally fly like a airliner. No dogfight mumbo jumbo. They should fall far less compared to these 3rd and 4th Gen. fighters which many times exercise low level flying, aggressive anti-SAM defence manouvers etc.
@1911wood
@1911wood 10 күн бұрын
I think that prominent engine noise is his. It cuts out after impact at the same time the impact sound gets to the observer. Remember what you see and what you hear will not be synced up because of distance. Impact noise then engine noise stops.
@MrSomethingdark
@MrSomethingdark 10 күн бұрын
No way the F-35's computer would let the plane come to a point in it's envelope where it would stall. This has to have been a catastrophic system failure
@MavHunter20XX
@MavHunter20XX 10 күн бұрын
You sound certain about that.
@jayss10
@jayss10 10 күн бұрын
We will see what comes of the AIB but I wonder if something went through the engine on the final suddenly killing all thrust. The fact they never declared an emergency or anything means it happened quick. Just an uneducated hunch. I’m sure we’ll hear about it.
@latoyamcdonald4444
@latoyamcdonald4444 10 күн бұрын
Possible bird strike? Last year at the Traverse City cherry 🍒 Festival. Blue Angel number 5 had a bird strike in the middle of their show. Thankfuly, he landed safety. It made for a long night for their maintenance crew. They had to fly from Michigan to Pensacola and back to Michigan to have number 5 back up and running for the Sunday show. In case it wasn't ready by show time they put number 5 on jet number 7 and took off. Number 7 had some sort of issues he had to come in and landed hoped in the original jet number 5 and completed the show. By late Sunday afternoon all seven jets were back up and running for the blue angels to depart for their next show.
@KPX-nl4nt
@KPX-nl4nt 10 күн бұрын
It will if the pilot thinks the auto throttle is engaged but isn’t. Remember that something similar happened with an F-35C on approach to the carrier a couple years back.
@Ariccio123
@Ariccio123 9 күн бұрын
​@@MavHunter20XX I encourage you to watch the MIT lecture on the F-22 Flight control system. These modern fighters are designed to be downright hard to fly badly.
@williamshanaman5098
@williamshanaman5098 10 күн бұрын
Better explanation than others. I saw gear down so it had to be during the landing phase. I had also heard the pilot did declare Mayday before punching out. It looked like a flat spin/auger combination to me. The plane departed flight parameters
@rons5341
@rons5341 10 күн бұрын
That KC-135R was getting ready for engine start and launch. Had ground man and one on headset and vest to martial.
@robcraigmyle3892
@robcraigmyle3892 10 күн бұрын
Marshal.
@KOSTASFK1200
@KOSTASFK1200 9 күн бұрын
When the A model was identifying as a B model... Thank you for the videos C.W. I enjoy your channel!
@jaffas007
@jaffas007 10 күн бұрын
Why are you not pointing out the Pilot is 1/2 way towards the ground before the JET goes down, the jet almost goes past him?
@INOD-2
@INOD-2 10 күн бұрын
Jet was probably going vertical as pilot punched out and went above the pilot, stalled, then came back down. Could have been the pilot pulled up to gain altitude to increase chances of ejection survival.
@STARSanSTRIPES
@STARSanSTRIPES 8 күн бұрын
The courage to make an unhesitating decision to eject, GOD BLESS THIS PILOT
@LoneWolf051
@LoneWolf051 10 күн бұрын
Sounding like the engine was on, as the sound disappears a couple seconds after impact
@kenchen704
@kenchen704 10 күн бұрын
The way that F35 spun and tumbled into the ground is so weird, modern god-like flight computers don’t just let that happen.
@FatherExo
@FatherExo 10 күн бұрын
Working on 35s, i dont see how pilot error could ever result in such a violent departure. And i also dont see software being the issue either, my only current assumption is a flight critical controller lost electrical power (not signal bc for every controller or computer there are secondary redundancies for *signal* for said components) from distribution to the controller
@woolymittens
@woolymittens 10 күн бұрын
Computer decided to apply latest update from Microsoft ..."One moment while your computer restarts ..."
@FatherExo
@FatherExo 10 күн бұрын
@@woolymittens true!
@charlesgregory6866
@charlesgregory6866 9 күн бұрын
Looks like a controller gave itself a lobotomy.
@Doomguy-777
@Doomguy-777 8 күн бұрын
@@woolymittens And then "CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT" BSOD
@_mw55_
@_mw55_ 7 күн бұрын
@@woolymittens getting a bluescreen during flight
@nestorperena8629
@nestorperena8629 10 күн бұрын
pilot after the crash: I'm never going to financially recover from this.
@CAG5205
@CAG5205 10 күн бұрын
Always interesting to watch 👌🏼 It looks like the pilot under his deployed chute was lower than his plane or maybe its just the angle 🤔
@slartybarfastb3648
@slartybarfastb3648 10 күн бұрын
The plane may have gained some altitude post ejection.
@roflBeck
@roflBeck 9 күн бұрын
Maybe it was sideways when he ejected, or upside down.
@jmp.t28b99
@jmp.t28b99 10 күн бұрын
Glad pilot was able to get out. I'm old school USAF UPT 68-F. In today's Air Force, I would still be punching the reset button as I auger in.
@A.Mac-meta
@A.Mac-meta 10 күн бұрын
Base Commander said aircraft experienced a malfunction. What could possibly cause the pilot to be underneath the aircraft after ejection at slow speed in the pattern?
@recoilrob324
@recoilrob324 10 күн бұрын
Right...that's something kind of weird to see the chute at much lower altitude than the falling aircraft. Guess we'll have to wait for the accident report on this one. Edit: Wanted to add that maybe with a Zero-Zero seat if there's adequate altitude and ejection is inverted it doesn't fire the rockets to correct and gain altitude? I'm not up on my ejection seat parameters.
@spiderpotato1139
@spiderpotato1139 10 күн бұрын
@@recoilrob324 I could be wrong but I think it only does that if there isn't enough altitude
@TXHusker05
@TXHusker05 8 күн бұрын
When I first saw this video, with no context, I thought it was just a B model that gave up the ghost and threw its pilot out before turning into a fireball. It wouldn't be the first time. When I realized it was an A model, I think my brain melted trying to figure out how it could have possibly gotten into that situation. I have no idea how you go from flying around the pattern to swinging under a chute as the jet falls from the sky beneath you like a brick. This AIB will be must-see Mover TV when it comes out in 6 to 9 months.
@mikelastname
@mikelastname 9 күн бұрын
F-22 does a falling leaf maneuver - F35 pilot - hold my beer.
@TheModelGuy
@TheModelGuy 9 күн бұрын
“I may of slightly fucked-up the pedal turns.”
@KaiTakApproach
@KaiTakApproach 9 күн бұрын
Ah, good old falling leaf drills. Brings back memories.
@riishith
@riishith 9 күн бұрын
The f35 removed the leaf and maneuver part of the falling leaf maneuver
@wicked1172
@wicked1172 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for explaining that departure from controlled flight in the pattern in a modern fighter is not similar to what can happen in a conventional civilian airplane like a Cessna.
@Tod_oMal
@Tod_oMal 10 күн бұрын
Was that the F-35 Max by any chance?
@maxstatic
@maxstatic 10 күн бұрын
Can you imagine getting out of the jet and then whilst under canopy, see your troubled bird come back towards you tumbling through the air?
@sithticklefingers7255
@sithticklefingers7255 10 күн бұрын
That’s what a modern, inherently dynamically unstable jet without its flyby wire does… I’m going to speculate that they lost the flight control computers.
@robcraigmyle3892
@robcraigmyle3892 10 күн бұрын
Also the CG shift.
@mortlet5180
@mortlet5180 9 күн бұрын
All four of them!?
@tbone403
@tbone403 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the break down
@TheStowAway594
@TheStowAway594 10 күн бұрын
How that thing had like zero airspeed, it looked like it was literally falling straight down. Weird
@samuraidriver4x4
@samuraidriver4x4 9 күн бұрын
I knew i didn't have to send you a message for you to make a video about it👍 Alot of incidents world wide recently, anything from doors and wheels falling off to aircraft getting shot down and to top it off a mid-air today. Makes you wonder.
@99AudiMan09
@99AudiMan09 9 күн бұрын
One of my gaming buddies is an F35 maintainer at Eielson, he's smart and not saying anything about the incident. but he did suggest that the person who recorded and posted this video so soon might experience "a sudden and rapid transition to civilian life"
@laynesuhr
@laynesuhr 9 күн бұрын
I saw a report that they updated the FCS code, after the F-35 went "missing" after the Pilot jumped out, to avoid an aircraft flying around for an extended period.
@rickbrackett7738
@rickbrackett7738 9 күн бұрын
Look again brother….. Something is clearly obvious here. Prior the IFE, the aircraft took a major increase in altitude. In the video, the pilot was clearly in his chute well below the falling aircraft. Was it a severe un-commanded pitch up?
@TheSzalkowski
@TheSzalkowski 10 күн бұрын
That is going to be a Class A mishap right there.
@starkat70
@starkat70 9 күн бұрын
7:22 clearly the F-35A identified as a F-35B and failed miserably
@floorpizza8074
@floorpizza8074 9 күн бұрын
It was busy trying to decide on its pronouns.
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 10 күн бұрын
the falling leaf move is so realistic and natural
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