Pilot Ranks The Most Realistic Video Games

[@smittywerbenjagermanjenson1095]

We need an OSHA inspector to look at construction sites in video games in order to find all the OSHA violations possible. Wonder how GTA5's mile high club would be lol

[@arog7493]

Now this is funny.

[@almothana]

lmao yes please

[@sarminder4357]

Or Portal. Only because someone went through all the OSHA violations in the games

[@charlie7mason]

Dude, there so much content possible with that idea. So many worlds and games to explore in a hilarious way. Excellent Idea!

[@thetruereuploader1346]

Wait isnt mile high club in just cause

[@TakNuke]

No war thunder and il2 strumavik? Who is giving him options. He's a great expert at least show him good games to review. Even arma and rising storm have better flight mechanics, at least you gave him DCS and MFS. Try playing any of the games above mentioned in vr and in simulator mode (WT has option to choose mode). War thunder also has one more good thing if one doesn't get many matches in sim then try flying in rb with vr. It becomes more thrilling and at least comes close to the feel of sim.

[@haterbehavior4583]

No just no war Thunder takes everyone’s soul don’t put that man through that pain

[@reisen1932]

Well his previous experience was literally War Thunder Arcade mode. I didn't understand that either, why noone showed him Simulator battle mode.

[@mobiusone6994]

@@reisen1932 Because only the autists play sim mode

[@TakNuke]

As much as WT takes to grind and is a pain in the ass for various reasons. It is beautiful when it comes together. The real fun is RB and sim especially in VR for air. It doesn't have accurate and functional cockpits like DCS but its large player base gives it more intensity. In both DCS and WT one might die with a shot from nowhere but at least in WT one can have some action before dying, and then spawn back to have some revenge. While reviewing Ace Combat the controls were not in expert mode for him it's like giving an adult training wheels for riding a bicycle.

[@koc988]

@@reisen1932 Sim just doesn't give you a HUD the physics are just a bit better.

[@Trizzle2Jernts]

I'm still mad that they're having him play Ace Combat with the arcade control scheme. WE WANT JUSTICE!

[@rizalkhafidin1471]

THIS

[@mr.sunmeadow]

I don’t think he was playing any of these, just watching videos

[@rizalkhafidin1471]

He played ace combat on expert try video

[@thiccchungo1041]

Not only Justice we want Liberty too!

[@gdspy]

From these clips, he's actually ranking games based on how seriously players play them, not how realistic the gameplay mechanics are.

[@CaptainPilipinas]

too bad these are just reacting to the in-verses' P-GA era ones-

[@SA80TAGE]

aye thought the exact same thing.... DCS should easily be S-Tier in realism, they model the entire cockpits where every button and switch is usable and does exactly what it's supposed to.... why rank the players knowledge and ability when you're supposed to be ranking _the game_ ???

[@DCGMatthew1]

No IL-2 so I'm crying.

[@leongao5120]

i feel like vtol vr should not be the same tier as ac7

[@LtDogoop]

Agreed

[@kanyenorth2092]

fr dawg vtol should be a tier dcs should be s tier

[@leongao5120]

@@kanyenorth2092 dcs should be s tier but vtol should be b tier

[@caschque7242]

@@leongao5120 now vtol vr is better simulated than dcs in some areas. e.g. the radar is properly simulated in contrast to dcs. but it looks cartoonish. i know. as always clothes make the man.

[@leongao5120]

@@caschque7242 ehh the radar is better then the non full fidelity modules but not better then the full fieldity ones IMO

[@radoToy]

Yeah to a dcs tomcat or viper driver not getting s would be disappointing but it makes sense, the old fc3 modules are not up to standard and allow for an “easy” ride

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

To be fair, he said depending on the aircractt and who you play with it can be s tier. Which is completely true... because the when you don't you have guys taking off on taxiways... etc. lol.

[@radoToy]

@@_Jake.From.Statefarm_ ahhh yes, the world famous dcs special double stacked taxi-cobra-takeoff… „hell is other people”

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

@@radoToy I'm so glad servers were able to auto kick players for doing it lol.

[@radoToy]

@@_Jake.From.Statefarm_ oh yes, the bulls**ttery is fun on KZbin or on a private server with friends but not when a hornet lands on your head while you align the ins 😂

[@cinnamontoast9999]

Gregor is the man, although I prefer him reacting to dcs, vtol vr, or any of the IL games, these other games are way too simplistic and arcady

[@crudetomato]

Dude I love vtol vr, but it’s in my opinion more unrealistic than war thunder, especially when looking at the good ol Jank physics in vtol. For the feeling, vtol takes the cake getting to have 100% interact-ability in Vr, but it’s most definitely not up at the most realistic.

[@cinnamontoast9999]

@@crudetomato never said it was fella

[@inserthandleherelol]

you typed that as if its bad to have a more arcadey flight sim game. AC7 is fun, I know from experience.

[@cinnamontoast9999]

@@inserthandleherelol ace combat is not a flight sim

[@inserthandleherelol]

@@cinnamontoast9999 I specified its an ARCADE flight sim not smething like DCS

[@ThatGuysProject]

5:35, the reason for the countdown being so fast is because london city airport has a steeper then usual approach angle, i think its 5 degrees.

[@alexanderbenkendorf688]

Putting VTOL VR in the same category as Ace Combat is borderline insulting. Both War Thunder and Vtol VR deserve the B tier, as being a simlite kind of thing.

[@BobBob-kr8yy]

At 5:30, he talks about the aural cues from the radar altimeter and the PAPI lights. I only want to bring this up because this is a very niche thing to know about that you'd probably only know about if you've had experience at the airport they're landing at in the clip and isn't me being needlessly critical of very well done video. The reason why the PAPI lights are indicating correct glideslope but the cadence is so fast is because the glideslope at London City Airport is higher than most any other airport anywhere else due to the fact that it is placed really badly relative to the geography of the rest of Central London. This is so much so that aircraft that use the airport have to be specifically rated for their type to conduct the steep approaches. The heaviest aircraft rated for the steep approaches is the A318. That A320 technically isn't rated. Although saying that, a sim instructor at airline pilot flight academy showed me taking in a 757 into the airport in the full motion simulator whilst I was sat in the FO seat once just to prove that the aircraft are more capable than their safety limitations but that there was a reason that they existed. Needless to say that if that were a real 757, it'd be in for some serious repairs and there'd be a very angry Mx guy.

[@SanDukey]

David has gotten a lot more comfortable in these videos. I'd love to see more of him with either Cameron or Israel, or maybe even the tank commander (I forget his name at the moment), because he really opens up with a second person to go off of.

[@colecleveland8179]

there's a specific video called Eli-21 by Adrián Caparzo. It's a short film shot in DCS and has some wonderful visuals and impressive attention to detail. I'd love to see him react to it and give his thoughts since it's a very realistic mission with real maneuvers used.

[@covenantslayergaming6362]

I've binge watched Eli 2-1 for quite a while, I've even considered making something similar in another game. It's so well put together and choreographed and I just want MORE (but will happily wait if it means his next work will be of similar quality or better)

[@dampsok]

Please have a react video to "ELI 21" @Gamology! That video truly breaks the uncanny valley in DCS realism.

[@UltimateDissrespect]

i think the clips they used didnt display the game properly and the guy just judged the people flying the aircraft not the sim so yeah that tierlist has to be revamped

[@M_I_C_I__M_A_U_S]

yeah

[@HurtboxTV]

We play Ace Combat to be in the cockpit and just admire how well they modelled the birds.

[@TigrisGamingCML]

It'd be interesting to have him *fly* some of the games. Put him in a sim pit and have him do IL-2 and DCS and a VR headset for VTOL VR... that would be cool to see. He points out, accurately, that there are lot of sim pilots who struggle with accurate callouts. I don't enforce it with my community, as long as it's accurate, brief, and clear, I think it's fine, but I get it from his perspective. But that accuracy stops mattering when he's the one in the hotseat, since he knows how to make accurate callouts and to fly, so it'd be cool to see him do it.

[@LtDogoop]

Yes!

[@benjaminkim1]

Dcs is actually really realistic compared to all fighter jet games out there. You should try it out. The guy you showed in the video didn’t have good energy management. Try watching growling sidewinder

[@barney3028]

The reason the glideslope was so steep in the Airbus landing on msfs was because they were landing at London city airport, because of the buildings the glideslope has to be about 2x steeper than a usual glideslope to land there, and pilots need special training to do so

[@Jeratan]

This tier list is D tier - This is not much of a ranking of video game realism. His criteria for judging realism of a game/sim appears to be: 1. Am I familiar with the aircraft and avionics in this game? 2. What is the skill level of this player in the footage? 3. Everything else.

[@professorbaggywrinkles5244]

5:15 "He's got the PAPIs on the left" *Zooms in on the instruments*

[@cyberboi9783]

Where is war thunder

[@jayson3595]

Bro put VTOL Vr on the same tier as ace combat 7….

[@doomsday9973]

Yeah that’s crazy

[@Gingerbytes]

This video needs to change its title to “Pilot Ranks the Most Realistic Flight Sim Videos”. Actually play the games and then tell me if the mechanics are realistic or not. The mere point that you put VTOL as the same class as Ace Combat says that you are just judging a video and nothing else. Also, you can’t base the realism of Flight Sim 2020 or DCS on someone’s tactics or lack there of; that doesn’t mean that the mechanics and systems aren’t modeled accurately.

[@Savag3P3nguin32]

The fact that this guy said dcs was a tier really makes us regular people who spend like 60-70 dollars for high quality, high definition aircraft, with flight models made as realistic as possible WITH LITERAL HELP FROM THE FIGHTER COLLECTION really makes us raise an eyebrow

[@tomaszwota1465]

"help from the fighter collection"? The what now?

[@ZillaMech]

Every time they show this man Ace Combat they show it being played on Novice flight mode, I'm starting to think they're doing it on purpose.

[@masterman3178]

VTOL VR was definitely B tier. Xplane needs love too.

[@tomaszwota1465]

Yeah, I don't fly it and VR controls sound meh as heck, but from what I saw there's enough meat on that bone to go above something clearly arcade like BF... Sounds like an inbetween, a simcade or something.

[@Toby8700]

@@tomaszwota1465ou should really try it out. Its a great game. The VR controls may change your opinon when you have tryed it yourself, or not. Try it out if you can

[@demben9335]

11:56 F 15: hold my beer this man need a lesson

[@foxywinterfox7575]

Hi there, Ace Combat fan is here. I really wanna see Gregor react to Fictional Aircrafts from Ace Combat 7 and they pretty awesome looking for Fictional style.

[@Hairysteed]

I prefer the fictional aircraft of VTOL VR. Ace combat ones are too... anime.

[@Hairysteed]

I know civilian flight sims like MSFS2020 might not be the kind of high-octane action packed excitement like you get from games like Ace Combat or War Thunder, but the appeal comes from learning the systems involved in flying such a complex aircraft and it's such a dopamine rush when you get it.

[@gungriffen]

A little annoyed he docked DCS based on what the players do wrong and not the accuracy of the simulation the game provides 🤷‍♂️

[@vagabondjay7281]

When I watched a YT of a Rear Admiral with over 1000+ hrs of F14 flight time, Jump on DCS and do a carrier landing, talk about how the only thing missing was the feedback from actually being in the seat, but otherwise, the module was solid, That made DCS S tier.

[@footballemporors14]

This channels does this man a disservice. He is willing to give you his time but you always choose the crappiest gameplay footage or games/simulators. Use this mans expertise and show him some good clips. Don’t let some intern who just googled fighterjet games recommend this. If you put some more effort in research these videos could be epic especially for aviation enthusiasts. At least MFS and DCS were mentioned

[@Toby8700]

VTOL VR is pretty good i think for this type of video if you ask me. If im wrong please tell me, this is not my strongest side

[@valstrax_shadow]

WAR THUNDER just an incredible game

[@axeavier]

not really, it's extremely grindy and unrealistic. Not to mention pay to win

[@elbirri]

@@axeavier yup world of aircraft is less grindy but war thunder is more realistic

[@Hairysteed]

Takes longer to reach the 4th gen jet fighters than it takes to learn a degree! ...and if you want to try another 4th gen aircraft you have to do it all over again.

[@valstrax_shadow]

@@Hairysteed personally I find it very fun , I finish the US , USSR , CHINESE , SWEDISH and FRANCE tech trees all are awesome🔥

[@sundownfilms9058]

I don't understand this guy's mentality. Questioning people's flying choices instead of the game itself. Also Viggens flew that low irl

[@tomaszwota1465]

No disrespect for the guy on the screen, but this video is very low effort. Some random crap clips from a couple of games... I mean, seriously. If DCS doesn't belong in S tier, I don't know what does, but you won't be able to tell from an action oriented clip on youtube. Out of all those, which one is used by parts of actual military forces to use as training aid? Yeah, it's DCS. That says something about it. Also, to your point - I agree that it's a bit silly to judge the game by how the players fly. Oh, this guy doesn't use proper brevity and gets excited when his wingman is getting fired upon -- that means the game is unrealistic? What? ;)

[@Toby8700]

@@tomaszwota1465yeah, there is ofcouse not only gonna be real pilots flying the planes. There proberly are, but these clips are just people having fun and trying to make it as realistic as they can without military training

[@ウルフリーゼ]

The funny part is that youtube's telling me this is a video about War Thunder under the description.

[@elsternix]

Talking about Ace Combat 7. They assigned a beginner to play an advanced mission in the middle of the campaign (where the initial missions are more realistic), using arcade control settings (while most players use the expert controls, allowing the aircraft to rotate freely). It seems like they intentionally adjusted the game to appear less realistic when showcasing it to a real-life pilot.

[@pijin961]

How many times you'll say unrealistic? Pilot : yes

[@iloveamerica1776]

Putting VTOL in the same tier as Ace Combat 7 and COD Vanguard is crazy

[@tonik2229]

the fact that dcs isn’t in S tier is so sad

[@SaltNBattery]

Microsoft Flight Simulator has Military aircraft, kind of bummed you only showed him commercial airliners.

[@makfrags14]

Who the hell is giving the man the options..where is Warthunder and why the hell is there Vanguard here 😂

[@AV8-tur]

DCS is definitely S tier. MSFS and VTOL are A tier.

[@doomsday9973]

Agreed

[@tomaszwota1465]

I'd tick VTOL a bracket lower. It's a good in-between from what I've seen, but on the same level as MSFS? Overall? I mean... It beats it in that it actually does combat, but does it do anything that MSFS does to a comparable level? Cockpits look more like a metaphor. You can do fantasy planes but still make the cockpits stylistically similar to the real thing.

[@AV8-tur]

@@tomaszwota1465 yeah but it's combat systems are all there. It Is basically nerfed down DCS with meh graphics. I think it has a better flight model than MSFS as well.

[@tomaszwota1465]

@@AV8-tur better flight model than MSFS? Does that include the late real time calculation stuff? I'm not that familiar with VTOL, is there a comprehensive write up somewhere that compares the systems depth and fidelity with DCS/MSFS?

[@wrjackhartley]

The jet that they used in a VTOL is a fiction aircraft which is a mixture of some dfferent aircraft. They also have a F-35 which is renamed to F-45A for copyright reasons

[@HaruShikiii]

He already said that unrealistic, just wait until he sees belkan witchcraft

[@Jarandjar]

YESSSSSS, VTOL VR IS GETTING LOVE YESS s

[@KayoMichiels]

Except it was placed in the same tier as ace combat...

[@Toby8700]

It should have been higher and so should other games have been

[@Hairysteed]

@@KayoMichiels Ace Combat should be in D tier

[@sadskytristeciel1439]

Good video. Thanks. You forgot the most realistic one. Falcon 4 BMS. :)

[@galpix]

The video is good but it is missing some games like arma3, warthunder

[@canconservative8976]

MSFS & DCS are simulators.... everything else is a toy arcade game. ...honourable mention to BMS

[@yoesoef4902]

Detected as War Thunder but none of the video talk abou War Thunder, irony haha

[@BigBlockVlogs]

are you KIDDING me about DCS? If you played DCS or Vtol VR DCS would be S and Vtol VR would at LEAST be a B.

[@Toby8700]

True. They should have let him try out the games insted of just watching clips of normal people having fun in games

[@Т1000-м1и]

Here when 123k views. Why didn't a big company owned channel think of that earlier?

[@Aeroflyer_2023]

Dcs is the most realistic in my OPINI9N

[@TimelessWorldOfGaming]

There was a really good flight sim for it's time on PS2 back in the day called Aero Elite: Combat Academy and it was actually very realistic. I imagine it would still hold up today and be worth playing honestly. It's not quite Microsoft Flight Simulator but the physics were extremely good. It wasn't anything like Ace Combat, the entire game was just tutorials and passing tests after learning maneuvers ranging from the yo yo to the good old formation loop. It had classes and tests for VTOL as well which was REALLY hard. It took me weeks of practice every day to be able to shift from flight to VTOL mode and land vertically in a Harrier just once to be able to pass the test. Likewise with Helicopters. I remember one dog fight where I set the AI to the ACE difficulty and the battle lasted almost 2 hours. I managed to gun him down finally after we both exhausted our missiles and it became a gun fight for an hour, but I ultimately ended up running out of fuel on the way back because I jettisoned my tanks upon entering the fight to increase my F-15's maneuverability. It gave me a real sense of respect for the people actually doing that stuff in real life and the calm but quick thinking it takes to stay alive up there and trust in what you've trained or practiced.

[@lowsodiumgamer6805]

The guy not using expert controls for ace combat has me disappointed

[@The_Irish_Fox]

Not mentioning warthunder is a war crime

[@jacksoncapper]

He should have stuck to judging by flight modelling and game mechanics. The way a player chose to play the game has nothing to do with it.

[@daanoffline5716]

Lacks some good games, poor clips that don't represent the games, no credit to the people who made the clips, vtol vr one was by operatordrewski, great youtuber. MsFs should not be in the same tier as DCS and vtol VR should be higher, B tier probably. I am not blaming the pilot, he didn't have much to work with honestly.

[@games68775]

Need arma

[@F-18Super]

Definitely a A/B tier

[@Hairysteed]

B

[@Thomas_Everman]

If you were going to use only rendezook clips for Battlefield, then why not use only Post Stall Maneuver clips for Ace Combat?

[@einarabelc5]

Show him the FC3 module instead of the F18 or F16 module. Nicely done!

[@tomaszwota1465]

What would be the point of doing that?

[@Simply_Canadian]

I think they showed the Su 27 that being a fc3 module

[@deanwilliams433]

No warthunder since the list is only from S to D 😂

[@Mixa_K3]

I don't feel like Vtol VR should be at the same tier as AC7 and call of duty or other arcade games. Vtol vr may be looks simplistic and simple to play, it actually simulates physics really well, as well as frequencies and radars. You can't find people comparing call of duty to DCS, but you can see bunch of people compearing Vtol vr to DCS. At my opinion, it should be: S: DCS, Microsoft Flight A: Vtol VR B: Ace Combat 7 C: Call of duty, Battlefield 3 D: BF3 Renderzook

[@dofense9991]

Give him VR goggles, tape him to a chair, and let him play vtol VR (preferably the f45), he'll change his mind once he gets the hang of it. 100% lol :D

[@KD-_-]

VTOL definitely shoulda gone B tier, its at least got MFDs, rdar, targeting pods, etc.

[@conquerthafuture7209]

I'd like to see this guy's review of Top Gun Maverick.. I love the mustang that Tom Cruise really owns. That was his personal mustang in the movie which is awesome

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

While having AIM-7s on a modern fighter jet is definitely unrealistic. I can understand why they did it. Even in DCS I prefer to fly with AIM-7s for game play reasons. With the Fox ones you will eventually merge with your opponents. And dog fights are fun. Even if they are very much a point and shoot affair. But for game play the late cold War level technology is really really good. But in a lot of ways I'm one of those B tir level players, kinda.

[@kamranbegakafr3ak]

Why do people make these video? Bf below ace combat wtf? Dude let them play it to feel it, it's like he is rating videos not the game itself

[@keipy7672]

U shoulda reviewed the top gun version of meds and also X-Plane 12

[@err0rc0degames]

Man that Ace Combat 7 gameplay was frustrating to watch

[@juraz1k459]

yo thats drewski playing vtol hell ye. gud youtuber.

[@iiApyxYouTube]

Very nitpicky and I wouldn't expect someone who's not from the area to know. But I would take a point away on MSFS for the A320 landing at London City, I'm pretty sure aircraft only up to the size of an A318 can land there.

[@klins1000]

Glad they showed DCS & MFS, but where's War thunder

[@mattalford3932]

DCS isn't just a simulator. It's a study level simulator.

[@dashram2035]

People complaining there’s no war thunder.. anyone heard of DCS? 😂 (edit:nvm, watched the rest of the vid and it’s there thank god. Still tho, how’s anyone suggesting war thunder when DCS is the best out there?)

[@genericnamehere7602]

Aero Elite Combat Academy 4. Teaches and enforces real flight physics. You can Over-G, black and red out.

[@n1co2017]

what no aggressor (the game) what is this sacrilege also on what points are you rating the games ex: like physics, callouts and other stuff because i feel it is unfair to rate some games lower just because some of the players are just casuals that just want to have a good time with their buddies and not go full sim mode. i feel like realism would be like physics, ai callouts and depending on how you chose to see it maybe graphics but some low poly games still gave incredible graphics just not realistic graphics.

[@cairosmith4504]

David "Unrealistic" Gregor

[@IKER774]

The next military simulator, called NOR, is going to be the next S Rank most realistic simulator.

[@tomaszwota1465]

If it ever gets a public release at all. It's also very... ambitious, lets say.

[@DC3Refom]

Xplane' 12 is S tier it's not game , it's a simulator and used by flight schools too

[@friendlyreptile9931]

Ace Combat is just a arcade game with a very anoying community where ppl rly think they are a pilot now but learned nothing about aviation at all :D

[@nosferatu7611]

As an ace combat fan, I agree

[@lucasklaastad5532]

What abaut war thunder!

[@dustin2264]

Yes

[@dustin2264]

And Tom clancys Hawks 1 and 2

[@nesseihtgnay9419]

pilot: completely un-realistic. gamers: this is SO realistic.

[@SlyNine]

Hmm. The joke would be funny if it were true.

[@Pancakeguy410]

Do VTOL VR its on steam

[@reinforcedthr3ads602]

bros judging how people are playing not the mechanics

[@DC3Refom]

I would like to see him react to xplane' 12 dogfighting

[@Always02496]

did bro really expect battlefield to be realistic?

[@ATJStellar]

There are a bunch of games i could think of to show like arma and war thunder

[@Ghostrider-gn8ml]

I`m missing IL-2 in your vid because i`m sure it would end up at least in the A rank too.

[@misovfb]

Where is Falcon BMS?

[@Tiber234]

BMS and Falcon 4

[@octanev223]

0:40 why wont he use the rudders

[@Kurt20051YT]

Where's War Thunder and Il2 Sturmovik? Those are way more realistic than Vanguard or BF3

[@FreezeMaster5]

yall should have had him rank Xplane

[@Savage_Viking]

Yes DCS is a great game.

[@Lee_reid]

Should have had war thunder on this list

[@echo-8404]

This dude sounds like Pail from Growler Jams

[@Doomphantom2719]

Where is war thunder or arma 3

[@SVDenjoyer]

Do war thunder next

[@ИтальянскаяСосиска]

Why there is no War Thunder???????????????????????????????

[@Larsykfz303]

Dcs not s tier... what!?

[@Toby8700]

DCS should have been a S tier and VTOL VR should have been a B tier

[@ambasing638]

Yay keep it up!