Pilot resin falcon vs Pilot metal falcon

[@DD-d6d3]

There is a big difference. The con 70 won't fit in the resin model.

[@DanielSmith_19]

My thoughts exactly. I just don't know if spending $60 more on the Metal Falcon just for the converter....

[@ameliabuns4058]

I wonder if you can sand or grind down the knob on the con 70 to make it fit lol

[@Abid_Zaman]

@@ameliabuns4058 just use a cartridge.

[@ameliabuns4058]

@@Abid_Zaman I do that now tbh but it's just a bit extra annoying to wash the syringe

[@forgotMyUsername100]

"the only difference is the weight" I thought the resin falcon could not fit the large-capacity CON-70 converter?

[@NicolasPare]

Why would you specifically make a video showing the differences between two pens, when you have no idea what the differences are between the two? - Weight and Size are different - Pilot metal falcon can use a CON 70, not the resin version - Center embelishment rings are different (Extra small ring on the resin pen) - Bottom cap is different (color of pen for resin, chrome look for metal) - Top cap different (color of pen with chrome disc for resin, all chrome for metal) - Metal falcon not all metal, grip section is resin - Body colors of course - I'm probably forgetting some

[@11ish61]

... ya bigger converter is a big deal for urban artists

[@explorerextraordinaire5472]

dang that was mean... but helpful thank you

[@Emil_m]

But she does explain all these differences you listed and much more

[@CaptainWumbo]

I have both resin falcon sef and 743 FA. The highlight of the falcon really is that 10g weight. It also writes quite wet for an EF, which brings out lighter colour inks really well. I don't know if Falcon is really advertised as a flex, but in any case the reality is it needs too much pressure and you will hurt your hand. 743 FA does flex without straining your hand and is beautiful, tho many people mess up their tines flexing the pen incorrectly. Mine never had the problems people warn of, in 743 with con 50 or in 823 vac. I love the resin falcon. That lightness is to be cherished. Metal might be more temperature resistant but the feed and I think the section too are still plastic, so the metal is just not an advantage. Still I'm curious about it. The extra weight probably makes flex less strenuous.

[@JohnGMeadows]

Speaking as a photographer, I love that photograph of the four trees in the background!

[@bayesmojo8908]

My Pilot elabo came with a con 70, which doesn't fit the resin version of the pen

[@DeaLenihan]

So...which is it? The pens are identical except for the weight? Or are the nibs different? This was very confusing.

[@Sonicman415]

Pens and Tea is so how I feel in the morning when I write! Boom. I love tea. I love fountain pens, and journals. I really like the look of the Falcon nib. I know you’re not a fan, but I’m obsessed with the con-70. I’m not super into metal pens, yet 😂

[@clarenceyee3529]

I find the metal Falcon a little heavy for longer writing sessions but really like the soft fine nib.

[@qxacexp1925]

The irony is that The resin is light and good for long sess but the converter holds lil capacity The metal is heavy and just for normal and short uses but hold more ink haha

[@Emil_m]

Confusing indeed, that the pen is called Falcon when they have a Falcon (FA) nib which isn’t on it. Should have just called it Elabo like they do in Japan.

[@creativewatercolor]

Got the 912 with no.10 FA nib. Definitely superior to Falcon's soft nib in terms of flex. With a hacked feed outperforms my '40s Mabie Todd.

[@carrywu]

How did you hack the feed?

[@explorerextraordinaire5472]

cool! what did you do to the feed?

[@MrAndrew1953]

I much prefer the extra heft of the metal version and the fact you can fit a con 70 to it, whereas you can only use a con 40 with the resin. You do get a con 70 with the metal version. I'm told you can get a Spencer Ian adaption for the nib on the Falcon to make it a flex nib. I'm also told it's not a flex nib as such like the FA nib on the 912. I prefer the metal Falcon to the 912 as it has some nicer design features like the clip and the weight.

[@zemansk7888]

The metal is designed longer to balance the heavier weight of the pen

[@maryharper9321]

I️ love the resin version I️ have but it was rather misleading that a falcon nib isn’t on a falcon ..

[@MummyBrown]

I legit didn’t understand the statement. It sounded like a comparative statement but I didn’t catch the point. Can someone please clarify?

[@phi1688]

@@MummyBrown pilot's flex nib is called the "FA" nib (falcon) yet it doesn't come on the pens reviewed in this video (the Pilot FALCON pens).

[@jacknemo8021]

1 of only 3 Pilots (the others are the cheap Kakuno, and the not so cheap custom 912) to use the very nice con70 I think.

[@jacknemo8021]

I forgot the 74 and the Justus 95.

[@DD-d6d3]

Jack Nemo and the custom heritage 91.a lot if Pilot pens take the 70. And the resin Falcon does NOT fit the 70

[@dab7963]

Yes the resin version will not accept the con 70.

[@13noman1]

I second MultiEbbot's question -- when is a Falcon nib not a Falcon nib? I have a somewhat older Falcon. How would I know if it's a Falcon nib on it?

[@PensandTea]

+13noman1 the Pilot Falcon Pen has a “soft fine nib” on it. Pilot also makes a nib called the “falcon” nib (commonly denoted as the FA nib) that is completely different from the nib on the Falcon Pen. The FA nib actually had cut outs on both sides to allow it to flex wider and with more ease than the soft fine nib.

[@froisaldivar]

Are the nib sections interchangeable can you take one and screw into the other? Not talking about pulling the nibs but just swapping the sections. Thanks

[@MultiEbbot]

Ok you have to enlighten my ignorance here....Isn´t that the falcon nib on the Falcon ? What is the falcon nib then ? I don´t understand....

[@arguchik]

The Falcon pen has a soft nib. The Falcon nib is a semi-flex nib. They are shaped completely differently. You can see the Falcon pen's nib in the video - it has a cool shape, with no "shoulders" and an arched structure near the breather hole. Here's a link to the Goulet page for the Pilot Custom 912, with the Falcon or FA nib. You can see from their images (they have a great photographer!) that the nib is shaped more like a regular nib, with those two half-moon cutouts (one on either side), which is what allows it to "flex." I haven't ever tried an FA nib, but from reviews that I've watched, I believe it is flexier than the nib on the Falcon pen. www.gouletpens.com/pilot-custom-912-fountain-pen-black-falcon/p/PN71619

[@MultiEbbot]

Thank you for clearing this up for me.:)

[@DD-d6d3]

Sharon Crowley IME it's not any more flexible. It's just a different shape.

[@arguchik]

Thanks, Doreen! I definitely want to try that FA nib someday. :) I have a Falcon with the SEF nib...kinda wish I'd gotten the SF instead.

[@genobambino]

I love the shape of the Pilot Falcon pen's nib. It SHOULD be called a falcon nib because it looks like a beak or a talon.

[@claudea.thomas5381]

I got the gold one in soft extra fine on yesterday

[@user-nq4px1oo1o]

I would actually rather falcon not FA nib. Just because I don’t need it flex a lot. Super soft, super fine nib is just too awsome

[@HerradaJulio]

What pen do you recommend for sketching/ doodling/ hatching? Thanks

[@explorerextraordinaire5472]

wow no one answered in 3 years 💔 You should look up "Peter draws," here on youtube. That guy will set you up CORRECTLY for drawing = ) good luck! (also let me know what you've been using because I'm sure that in 3 years you've surely found a good pen that works great for drawing)

[@Emil_m]

Try SEF, it’s really interesting for sketching but I wouldn’t recommend it for writing, because you have to hold it lightly to avoid scratchy feel. I like the plastic version (haven’t tried metal). Even uncapped the weight feels great.

[@violetageorgieva3515]

Thank you, Kerry, for an interesting review. I wish I knew the correct spelling of your name. I apologise for any mistake/s. Would you consider making a comparison between this nib and the Falcon nib in a separate video, if possible? I bought a resin Elabo last week. Not received it yet but really curious. Kind regards, Violetta

[@arguchik]

I agree! I would love to hear Kerry's take on these nibs in a side-by-side comparison. Here's a video that has no sound but offers a very thorough (probably longer than necessary) writing comparison among the SEF and SF nibs in the Pilot Falcon pen, and the FA nib in a Custom 742 pen (which is Pilot's #10 size nib - same size that comes in the Custom 912). What I miss in this video is commentary on the writing experience - the *feel* of the different nibs against paper and while flexing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6bUpWmohreMsKs

[@PensandTea]

+Violeta Georgieva if I can get my hands on a FA nib then I absolutely will! (And you spelled my name right👍🏻)

[@MrPleers]

Metal pens (or pens with a metal gripsection) are just not for me. Don't like the way they feel in my hand when writing with them.

[@bob963me]

Kerry; "Do a little dance." My old geezer mind reflexively: "Make a little love. Get down tonight. Get down tonight." kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2mspqqFgt-Kh7s

[@explorerextraordinaire5472]

hahahahhahahaha best comment on here!