Pilsen Area in 1980 Documentary

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West Love

West Love

2 жыл бұрын

A 1980 WTTW documentary filmed in September explores the Chicago neighborhood of Pilsen and the challenges it faces, including unemployment and gentrification, but also celebrates the efforts of the community to improve.

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@guyincognito1232
@guyincognito1232 11 ай бұрын
That opening shot, Cullerton, Blue Island and Laflin. I lived in Pilsen from 1998-2020. I’ve must’ve crossed that intersection hundreds of times. La Tortillería El Milagro, brand new Benito Juárez High School, (just behind the camera). La Casa del Pueblo a bit further down, Rudy Lozano Library (wouldn’t be built until the the late 80’s). I miss Pilsen. We didn’t know how good we had it. 😢 You could walk to everything, you could walk to school, church, store, library. 18th street was full of little shops, barbershop, hardware store, laundromat, restaurants, the jumping bean, there was a video rental store, literally on every corner. I would spend my summers at the pool in Harrison Park or Dvorak Park trying to cool off during those Chicago summers. Every once in a while one of the neighbors would open the water hydrant, I’d ask my mom for permission to cool off but she’d say “no, what if the cops come?” I saw the transformation happen right in front of my eyes and it was gradual. But I’d say in 2010, Chicago wanted to expand its Downtown area south. I remember being 14 and playing basketball at a small park on Throop and 18th place. There were a lot of cops in formation (about 20-30) standing in rows of 5 on 18th place. it seemed like a statement for the neighborhood. Like announcing or assigning a whole new squad to Pilsen. Slowly but surely they applied pressure on the gangs, got the drugs out and bought and sold property for a profit. Buy low, sell high. There was a sweet spot in which a lot of the gangs were cleaned up and enough good people were left behind that made Pilsen worth living in.
@xeroxed7766
@xeroxed7766 2 жыл бұрын
Back then Pilsen made Little Village and North Lawndale look like disney land
@SlappingNotes
@SlappingNotes 2 жыл бұрын
Now little village make Pilsen look like six flags.
@JoseLopez-ye9ok
@JoseLopez-ye9ok Жыл бұрын
I’m from pilsen n that’s a good one! But killas kno wasup!
@Amcheesehehe
@Amcheesehehe Жыл бұрын
Little village and heart of Chicago and 18th st walkway been crazy
@viperrr6886
@viperrr6886 Жыл бұрын
It wasnt too long before both were bad ultimatley humbult park was worse than pilsen and little village
@piglet7943
@piglet7943 Жыл бұрын
And now Pilsen is turning into yuppie land. Gentrification is a MFer and Little Village is next.
@Jaime-di1qk
@Jaime-di1qk Ай бұрын
Born and raised in Pilsen: 1977-2002, moved for a while then again in 2006-2007. Left that place years ago. I have some of the best memories, but only as a child. Also, the worse memories as a young adult. The political people from that area never gave a crap about the neighborhood. All those years, and I never saw any huge input of money added. That money went to the suburbs. I saw so many friends lose their lives in that neighborhood. I was lucky to have walked away from it. Thank you for this video…..it brought back so many memories
@westlove1226
@westlove1226 Ай бұрын
@@Jaime-di1qk thank you for sharing your perspective!
@j.s.3297
@j.s.3297 9 ай бұрын
My parents arrived in Pilsen in the 50's and we left in 1975, back then there were still some Cechs and Hungarians living there. We lived by what used to be Burkhardt's soda on 18th st. and used to go Lawrence's fishery on Canal...brings back memories.
@abelincoln6785
@abelincoln6785 2 ай бұрын
We bought two cases of Burkhardt's soda per week, one for us one for cousins.
@bleedcubieblue
@bleedcubieblue 2 ай бұрын
18th and what
@MartVale1
@MartVale1 3 күн бұрын
Where did you move to afterwards? I would love to hear stories of families that first lived in Pilsen and where did they move out too or what are they up to know?
@bleedcubieblue
@bleedcubieblue 3 күн бұрын
@MartVale1 still here since 87
@tmanthemost1157
@tmanthemost1157 2 жыл бұрын
Now it’s almost completely gentrified
@technum1
@technum1 Жыл бұрын
Pilsen Chicago. Gentrification. That’s a definition for upgraded. It unbelievable kids need to create a special path to reach schooling. A woman explained that on TV. The area is gang infested. Children need to be kids and live in a safe area with positive role models.
@tmanthemost1157
@tmanthemost1157 Жыл бұрын
@@technum1 yeah by people that don’t even belong in that neighborhood or have no connection to it. The people can solve the problems themselves I’ll take the gang infestation over unaffordable living.
@OscarHernandez-je9zc
@OscarHernandez-je9zc Жыл бұрын
Not really it’s still the barrio
@tmanthemost1157
@tmanthemost1157 Жыл бұрын
@@OscarHernandez-je9zc it really isn’t anymore
@ggv4541
@ggv4541 Жыл бұрын
@@tmanthemost1157 you act like the place doesnt look the same as it used to besides a little cleaner and a few new buildings
@cesarespinal8151
@cesarespinal8151 Жыл бұрын
Born and raised in pilsen so many good memories with my family growing up 👍
@bluered5420
@bluered5420 Жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on the unemployment discussion? As a young person who merely has to google things, it seems every generation has an argument about how "people don't want to work anymore". Then it seems the blame is on young people who are the least experienced people at any given task. The economy continues to demand a desperate class of low paid workers to keep the company or factory going.
@ggv4541
@ggv4541 2 жыл бұрын
That intersection in the opening scene probably has the best view of the skyline in the whole city
@miketurner3461
@miketurner3461 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you can see the Hancock from Blue Island. You can no longer see it because there's so many more skyscrapers in front of it now.
@Taterfried
@Taterfried 3 ай бұрын
I had a short stint on 18th and Blue Island in Pilsen in 2018 40 years after this doc.
@JuniorAlvarez-ni1wo
@JuniorAlvarez-ni1wo 8 күн бұрын
I grew up in pilsen, 18th and Oakley. We had to move out for mines and my families safety. But the community was great I enjoyed every single year I had over there.
@MrSoldierperson
@MrSoldierperson 9 ай бұрын
My first neighborhood. Heart of Chicago neighborhood. We moved out in the mid seventies.
@MartVale1
@MartVale1 3 күн бұрын
Where did you go to?
@davidc.2099
@davidc.2099 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Pilsen, and adore the area with all my heart. It's scary how most points made were kinda of true in today's Pilsen. I hope Pilsen is not erased in 15 years.
@phillipgrey
@phillipgrey Жыл бұрын
Gentrification just like in Wicker Park, Buck Town and Humboldt Park.
@whatoh3407
@whatoh3407 Жыл бұрын
When all the yuppies and cops move into Pilsen, that's when Pilsen will no longer exist.
@citizenstranger
@citizenstranger Жыл бұрын
@@phillipgrey and logan square
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn Жыл бұрын
@@phillipgrey I think the lower west side has more of a tightly knit community than those areas so I hope they'll be able to resist the forces of gentrification but everywhere within 2 miles of the loop is gentrifying these days. it's the nature of the beast unfortunately. same story all over the country
@fratzogmopars
@fratzogmopars 11 ай бұрын
@@carstarsarstenstesenn Gentrification? Isn’t that racist? It works both ways bub.
@jev3-82
@jev3-82 2 жыл бұрын
Nice , Chi kid myself . 82 , grew up in Wicker park before gentrification . Had an awesome childfood , lived by Paulina between Wabansia and North Ave . Good old times 😃
@ggv4541
@ggv4541 2 жыл бұрын
Puro monarcas vato soy da la Vasco de quiroga y del Barrio pilsen la 18
@vr9580
@vr9580 2 жыл бұрын
You are 82 now? Or were you born in 82?
@dixienormous6969
@dixienormous6969 Жыл бұрын
@@vr9580 lol
@vr9580
@vr9580 Жыл бұрын
@@dixienormous6969 lol the question may seem stupid but I was a little confused.
@904_Florida
@904_Florida Жыл бұрын
@@vr9580 Yeah, I think the year 1982, he'll be a lil younger than 82 if he was born in 1982.
@IgnacioFlores.
@IgnacioFlores. Жыл бұрын
I love how the Mexican and the Chicago Chicago accent sounds like together, so different from la Mexicans; los chicanos. 😲
@kincamell2
@kincamell2 2 жыл бұрын
Heavy Gratitude .
@ggv4541
@ggv4541 2 жыл бұрын
13:36 Look at Pilsen now....
@kilobishop8364
@kilobishop8364 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Pilsen born in 1980
@4quall
@4quall 4 ай бұрын
My man ! Born on Oakley/23rd St in 1968 and stayed thru 89
@MartVale1
@MartVale1 3 күн бұрын
12:40 wow I didn’t know that’s Ms. Fraga! I believe she worked at a school, she is well known in the community and very involved. She’s a sweet person.
@ojonielcntreras780
@ojonielcntreras780 2 жыл бұрын
Great video✡️our family Waz raised in chicago the pilzen area strong minded hard labor working sacred families times change as the yearz go by God bless uz all🏆
@chitownreak
@chitownreak Жыл бұрын
i lived in pilsen from 73 to 99 i miss it very much
@charlesgarcia8095
@charlesgarcia8095 Жыл бұрын
Where are you living now ?
@ggv4541
@ggv4541 Жыл бұрын
18th st reminds me of some escape from LA type shit
@chitownreak
@chitownreak Жыл бұрын
@@ggv4541 in my day it was more like escape from new york,then the warriors then colors
@ggv4541
@ggv4541 Жыл бұрын
@@chitownreak is it because new york reminds u more of pilsen than la?
@chitownreak
@chitownreak Жыл бұрын
@@ggv4541 in the 70s and 80s definitely
@kenkunz1428
@kenkunz1428 2 жыл бұрын
Once the Artists move in, the neighborhood is finished. My long dead Bohemian relatives used to call 18th St "The Bohemian Skid Row".
@fcukyou2_
@fcukyou2_ Жыл бұрын
I see it the opposite, once the artists move In, you know your about to make a ton of money when you sell. im shocked at the values in bridgeport and Humboldt Park.
@kenkunz1428
@kenkunz1428 Жыл бұрын
@@fcukyou2_ Once the artists show up, you've got to pack your bags, whether you own a house or not.
@mrichar9
@mrichar9 2 ай бұрын
Artists... unemployed but with extra steps.
@OPTIONALWATCH
@OPTIONALWATCH Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to find that lady and interview her today if she's still alive.
@ellab2665
@ellab2665 11 ай бұрын
She is alive and is an active member of the community❤
@DamnTheMan1
@DamnTheMan1 Ай бұрын
I was born in 80 and lived in the Pilsen area until 93 when we moved to Texas. My mom and Dad kept in touch with old friends from the area and they told me that they heard how really bad it had gotten and one of my old childhood friends died from a shoot-out or something like that and just so many other things. Now I hear how much it supposedly changed for the better, but I haven't been back in forever already. I plan to go back one day to visit and see for myself.
@sophiagarcia3687
@sophiagarcia3687 2 жыл бұрын
The lady talking I think is Mrs Fraga from jco elementary school
@komptozegee6795
@komptozegee6795 2 жыл бұрын
It Is looked her up. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Fraga
@EdgarHernandez-qs1yp
@EdgarHernandez-qs1yp 2 жыл бұрын
It sure is
@AlmightyLatinKing
@AlmightyLatinKing Жыл бұрын
McKinley Park, Southside Chicago. Since ‘79 👑
@HITTAGAME
@HITTAGAME 8 ай бұрын
No one asked u
@jasongreen2443
@jasongreen2443 2 жыл бұрын
The yuppies are slowly taking over. Pilsen look totally different and the people who lived in Pilsen were forced to move out because city officials purposely raised tenent rent so they couldn't afford to stay in the area.... gentrification is not necessarily a bad thing but it's not a good thing either
@GTSN38
@GTSN38 2 жыл бұрын
It is bad. How do you think rich people get richer and poor people get poorer. They basically stole sections of Pilsen
@kenkunz1428
@kenkunz1428 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's a bad thing.
@phillipgrey
@phillipgrey Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@GTSN38
@GTSN38 Жыл бұрын
Way of the world, been happening since man first walked
@iamtryingtopissyouoff.7729
@iamtryingtopissyouoff.7729 Жыл бұрын
Pilsen is still 75% Latino
@whereismarkcam
@whereismarkcam 11 ай бұрын
I don't think it looks like this any longer. But great report.
@soy_0scar7
@soy_0scar7 2 жыл бұрын
May God bless and protect you Dios te bendiga y proteja
@ggv4541
@ggv4541 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like this neighborhood was always destined for gentrification being that close to downtown
@westlove1226
@westlove1226 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right! It was inevitable, my neighborhood in West Town also faced the same issues
@Jeremy_Meeks
@Jeremy_Meeks 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@iananderson8288
@iananderson8288 2 жыл бұрын
compared to the rest of the city, it still hasn't been too gentrified. There is no starbucks, corporate chains , new apartment buildings etc.
@phillipgrey
@phillipgrey Жыл бұрын
@@iananderson8288 At, least not yet.
@shady4chi
@shady4chi Жыл бұрын
@@iananderson8288 I was going to say just that. Compared to Humboldt, Wicker Park Logan Square just to name a few, it’s nowhere as gentrified as those areas.
@sophiagarcia3687
@sophiagarcia3687 2 жыл бұрын
1985 fifth generation pilsen bby it was and still is a very unique place to grow up even though it was tuff growing up there I wouldn't change it
@dallascowboysnumberonefan4863
@dallascowboysnumberonefan4863 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 1985 baby but not from Chicago from cincinnati
@chicagokush
@chicagokush Жыл бұрын
Same born n raised in chi 1986 ❤
@acebandagedaclown4215
@acebandagedaclown4215 2 ай бұрын
8:36 drinking a beer during work was always a thing!
@fleadoggreen9062
@fleadoggreen9062 7 ай бұрын
That area has been the slowest gentrification I ever seen They were artist types in the early 90’s tgere
@johnmud5085
@johnmud5085 2 ай бұрын
@8:36ish There is an open Old Style on the dashboard for lunch!!!!! Lol... how times have changed?
@iananderson8288
@iananderson8288 2 жыл бұрын
condomania of the north side, i love it!
@Vero8088jv
@Vero8088jv 4 ай бұрын
That blue van in the vídeo looks like my ex brother-in-law R.I.P Lazer van omg that was right around i started coming around i lived in Pilsen for while since the 90s
@Vero8088jv
@Vero8088jv 4 ай бұрын
Update it wasn't his van
@praisegod3768
@praisegod3768 Жыл бұрын
What a darling family -- I wonder how they are now?
@chicagokush
@chicagokush Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same ❤
@iamtryingtopissyouoff.7729
@iamtryingtopissyouoff.7729 Жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Fraga The mom went on to have a career in politics and ran for alderman
@eriksantoyo92
@eriksantoyo92 2 жыл бұрын
Wow Harrison park
@neoalmaguer6505
@neoalmaguer6505 Ай бұрын
This lady probably knew my grandma dad uncle and aunts
@bigwendigo2253
@bigwendigo2253 Жыл бұрын
You don’t think artists will be apart of the community? They’re more community driven than most people I know.
@whatoh3407
@whatoh3407 Жыл бұрын
Yes and no.
@huhhah6757
@huhhah6757 2 жыл бұрын
What happened too woman like this? The man found a treasure with this one
@chicagokush
@chicagokush Жыл бұрын
Her mindset is pure ❤
@45hoynejr70
@45hoynejr70 Жыл бұрын
They’re lost now
@DCAZPER
@DCAZPER 2 ай бұрын
Cullerton Deuces, SDz , Bishops good ol Pilsen
@westlove1226
@westlove1226 2 ай бұрын
You forgot the main ones from the video, the Villa Lobos🐺💚
@ChicagoBornPilsenBred21
@ChicagoBornPilsenBred21 Жыл бұрын
✶ ✶ ✶ ✶Pilsen✶ ✶ ✶ ✶
@mzchavez87
@mzchavez87 Жыл бұрын
Now Pilsen is extremely expensive
@westlove1226
@westlove1226 Жыл бұрын
Sadly is, but its a lot cleaner too
@fcukyou2_
@fcukyou2_ Жыл бұрын
everywhere in the city is expensive..unless you want to move to Englewood
@Y.A.BABY4961
@Y.A.BABY4961 7 ай бұрын
Who REMEMBERS Joe Negrete from the Ambros
@westlove1226
@westlove1226 7 ай бұрын
Rest in Peace to Link and Negrete💙🖤
@JohnDoe-ik4uu
@JohnDoe-ik4uu 8 ай бұрын
NO LONGER IS IT LIKE THIS THEY TOOK IT BACK RECYCLED. SO SAD ONLY THE TACOS STOOD THERE
@UTCSB
@UTCSB 2 жыл бұрын
Omg gentrification sucks i hate it soo much i get so upset same stuff all over chicago 16:47 just excuses from that guy to put familys out like she said
@lisalasoya2898
@lisalasoya2898 Жыл бұрын
Beginning with, I think Chicago Illinois started in July 20, 196...And, only to gather a bunch of dregs to this state. As the recruited faze, among these people, something or someone passed along some weird substance that made their nose sockets, notwithstanding put a big hole. In most libraries the chain-of-command is: Statues: Labor: Quarum: then abandon apartments or/and homes. They did not abandon their apartments or homes, get it!
@BlownMacTruck
@BlownMacTruck 4 ай бұрын
Seek mental health.
@Da_Fonz
@Da_Fonz 2 жыл бұрын
You have to take care of your neighborhood. You cannot make it worse.
@GTSN38
@GTSN38 2 жыл бұрын
They screwed Pilsen. They can make any neighborhood bad if they want it
@mustafahajj
@mustafahajj Жыл бұрын
The aliens 👽 says ol' Mike @3:30
@neoalmaguer6505
@neoalmaguer6505 Ай бұрын
Cmon raza we can be like bro just gen money stay out trouble makes me sad we all the same yet we kill each other so senselessly😂
@Aroncare
@Aroncare 6 күн бұрын
DOCTRINA MONROE, TRATADO DE BUKAREST etc...
@westlove1226
@westlove1226 6 күн бұрын
@@Aroncare huh…?
@4quall
@4quall 4 ай бұрын
The City should have let homeowners there stay on capped property tax if owned their homes prior to 1995. Everyone else cant get the upcharge bullshit they are doing to Pilsen.
@hueso5071
@hueso5071 2 жыл бұрын
@00:30 gang members
@ggv4541
@ggv4541 2 жыл бұрын
What street is that? Are they Villalobos or ambro's
@hueso5071
@hueso5071 2 жыл бұрын
@@ggv4541 not sure. Since a lot of hoods look different today, I say either Ambrose or Counts. Since they were the 2 gangs making the most noise at that time.
@acebandagedaclown4215
@acebandagedaclown4215 2 жыл бұрын
They are inhaling some good stuff
@mikewhite8848
@mikewhite8848 2 жыл бұрын
How did you figure they were gang members? I'm not from that era and back then everybody dressed the same
@hueso5071
@hueso5071 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikewhite8848 this area at the time was heavily gang infested and they always hung out in the neighborhoods like this.
@weupnext1700
@weupnext1700 10 ай бұрын
2024 almight bishops run pilsen
@xxeznn
@xxeznn 2 ай бұрын
sdz more deep there now then bishops
@neoalmaguer6505
@neoalmaguer6505 Ай бұрын
Her daughter Married un gringo😂¿
@mikeforner7797
@mikeforner7797 Ай бұрын
I don't care where you are from...you just better be here LEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@carloselizondo7671
@carloselizondo7671 Ай бұрын
It's all white now.
@westlove1226
@westlove1226 Ай бұрын
Certainly not all of Pilsen.
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