PIMAX 8KX | First Look in Microsoft Flight Simulator | The Ultimate VR Headset for Sim Enthusiasts?

[@SimHangerFS]

I get airborne for the first time in the Pimax 8KX and I am impressed with the headset and their VR Experience config utility. Catch my follow up video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqXadZ2PhqtjsLM

[@calmingsounds8412]

Thanks for the useful video :) How did you import Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020?

[@SimHangerFS]

@@calmingsounds8412 , record the monitor view and then zoom in. Regards

[@calmingsounds8412]

@@SimHangerFS Thanks I meant to ask how did you set up Pimax 8KX to work with MSFS2020, are you running it through SteamVR? Regards

[@SimHangerFS]

@@calmingsounds8412 video on exactly that coming out next 😁

[@calmingsounds8412]

@@SimHangerFS Thanks looking forward to it 😁

[@SpatialGuy77]

Very very helpful video. Thank you! You mean ‘available to the retail market’ not the commercial market (while discussing FOV at around 3:10 or so.)

[@4secsharkmr352]

Thanks Mark, I brought a 8kx (thanks to Steve😉) and I am absolutely happy with it. Mark set Brightness to -2 and Contrast to +1 in PE and you will get a very good black level for flying at night. And of course backlight to 80. Setting Pimax rendering to 1.25 or 1.5 and reducing SteamVR resolution accordingly (50 % 78 %) brings you a crystal clear picture. The Motionsmothness of the Pimax Software is excellent. Don't look at fps. They are far lower as in the HP reverb G2 but is much smoother. Even with a RTX3090 it is difficult to find the right balance in relation to performance and clearity. The way is to reduce the horizontal pixel amount round about 2800 - 3100. That headset is really amazing. No more short blackouts as in the G2. But of course the G2 is in Msfs a little bit sharper. Take care

[@SimHangerFS]

Thanks for the help, I will definitely try these settings out 👍

[@MyFlightTV1]

Dear Pimax, I think you’ll agree that Mark has done an outstanding job with these videos on your amazing headset. To show how much I appreciate his work and his channel, I think it’s only fair after all the praise he’s given your company, to say this. Let him keep the headset. He earned it… he really did. Thanks. 😎🙏🏼

[@SimHangerFS]

Thanks for the praise, much appreciated 🤣

[@StreblerPiano]

That's a great video ! I just got the 8kx and was quite disappointed at first by its problems. Got problems with Subnautica (basically unplayable), problems with FS2020. I tried to mimic your settings as close as possible and was able to get something not so bad (with a rtx 3090). I'm really considering reselling it, but I would love to try your full settings first. In the video, you talked about an upcoming tutorial about settings and configuration. Can't wait ! Keep up the good work !

[@SimHangerFS]

Video out in next day or two 👍

[@StreblerPiano]

@@SimHangerFS Awesome !

[@magsmafia]

Great review, keep up the good work!

[@loubar8328]

Cool video on the headset and a nice display of the product as always!

[@captainnewton4618]

Nice video, imagine this FOV on the Varjo VR-3 with 70 PPD retina resolution. That will be the ultimate VR combo.

[@SimHangerFS]

It’ll come.....I hope...would be amazing!

[@SpatialGuy77]

The Pima 12KX will be the Game Changer. Nothing will compete (not for a while anyway)

[@garywayland6168]

OMG, that’s a C170. My farther owned one of those. It was a Cadillac after the C140 he owned until he move up to the C170B. We use to fly from Miami Florida to Virginia every summer. OK, back to the Pimax ….. Cheers

[@AuthentiKit]

Rich colours, little distortion, smooth at 100% rendering (in 3090). Now I'm tempted again.

[@4secsharkmr352]

Ask Steve and you will buy it for sure🤣 For God's sake he only doing VR stuff and not selling more expensive things🤣🤣🤣 Take care

[@AuthentiKit]

@@4secsharkmr352 I thought Steve concluded he'd stick with the Reverb? Can't remember why - processor demand? Distortion?

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@AuthentiKit the G2 is a little bit sharper but if the 8kx is setup correctly than it is excellent to for using it I'm Msfs2020. In Il2-Box and DCS it performs much better than the G2

[@AuthentiKit]

@@4secsharkmr352 How about all the parallel projection stuff. Wasn't there something not working well there in MSFS?

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@AuthentiKit msfs2020 needs parallel projection. Without you get sometimes double layer when looking to the side. That's is an resource eater. DCS and Il-2 doesn't need that. I was sceptical too but since I had my 8kx my Reverb G2 is sleeping all the time.

[@stephenmason5682]

Can you possibly do a video while satin the Pillts seat, rather than in the back seat? I would love to see what it's like up close and moving your eyes about? Regards.

[@claybomb1064]

Great vid. I want an 8KX!

[@g-maniac8670]

If anyone in UK looking a good deal on 8kx. I have just bought Varjo vr-3 and my 3 months old 8kx now for sale.

[@SimHangerFS]

A Varjo vr-3.....wow...you are in for a treat! I am green with envy 👍

[@g-maniac8670]

@@SimHangerFS I've been playing with it for a couple of weeks now, it's everything I've been looking for in a vr headset. You and vr flight sim guy should seriously think about the Varjo. There are a few of us in UK on varjo gamers discord, you're very welcome to join us over at discord.gg/k6TMYk8q

[@SimHangerFS]

@@g-maniac8670 I know the price is high, that doesn’t really put me off, but there is also a fairly hefty annual charge as well, is this correct? Thanks for the invite 👍

[@g-maniac8670]

@@SimHangerFS it's just they changed the way they charge business with this model. The vr-2 was £5-6k. The vr-3 is £3-4k plus an annual £700 subscription. You can buy a perpetual/lifetime subscription for £5500 all in Inc vat, nothing else to pay. So price hasn't changed just a fancy way to sell to business.

[@ShotInTheDark]

Game mode and (something that sounds like) hangs off? at 12:50 Could you confirm what you said there? Many Thanks.

[@SimHangerFS]

HAGS.....hardware accelerated graphics scheduling....on by default in windows.

[@Buddy308]

Just priced this out. With 2 base stations, it comes to US$1,900 exclusive of shipping and any tax. And that's with the current 10% discount. I'd omit the controllers in favor of a trackball velcroed to a kneeboard, but if I included controllers, it would cost US$2,250 (US$2,500 if Pimax stops offering their 10% discount)!! All I can say is "please order me a 49" LG 1440 monitor/TrackIR or an HP G2, instead." But in actuality, I won't say that; I'll stick with my LG 34" 1440, 160Hz with TrackIR for quite a while. This Pimax headset looks spectacular, but for these prices, it'll almost surely remain a low-selling enthusiast-niche product.

[@SimHangerFS]

Yes, it’s expensive compared to the G2, but you are getting the best FOV and resolution in the market. Your dead right, it’s for the enthusiast market.

[@Buddy308]

@@SimHangerFS Right. I'll be surprised if there's any trouble finding the Pimax in stock 😉 By the way, Mark, ". . . expensive compared to the G2 . . ." qualifies you for the 2021 Great Understatements of Western Man Award. 😉😉

[@djtaylorutube]

Yep I bought a 49" ultrawide and used TrackIR. Then I bought a G2...blown away in VR and I was a big sceptic. Added an 8KX a few weeks ago. My mistake this evening was flying the Stearman over Sydney first in the 8KX, then switching to the G2 and I felt like I had gone from normal vision to looking through a toilet roll tube.

[@Buddy308]

@@djtaylorutube I absolutely believe you, David. That’s exactly what I’d do if there were any way I could justify the price. The 8KX is magnificent. But almost no one will buy it at the astronomical price. I, for example, can easily afford it, but there’s still no way I’m going to pay over 2,000USD. Some enthusiasts will, and I’d not say it’s wrong for them. They're few and far between, though.

[@djtaylorutube]

@@Buddy308 I don't disagree, nor am I going to say it's the best headset at that price. The G2 runs smoother and is slightly crisper and much lighter. I would definitely recommend trying a headset though art any budget point, if only just to see how good this is. I really wasn't prepared for how good the experience was going to be in VR

[@Hotdognzz]

How did it go with your glasses on, I wear glasses and im curios

[@SimHangerFS]

I was amazed, very comfortable using the thicker foam pad as shown in the video. Regards

[@terrymarkowski8762]

if that distortion is the norm i dont think ill get a vr which i was contemplating thank you for the very informative vid maybe the next iteration be better

[@SimHangerFS]

That distortion is from the recording, not visible when your in the headset. 👍

[@Directx11cool]

The problem is, that you don't understand how render works and that rasterization on monitor use linear grade while for such big fov (more then 45 degree actually) need to use nonlinear www.decarpentier.nl/lens-distortion

[@chrisbaggieboy5656]

I’ll stick with my trackir thank you very much.

[@djtaylorutube]

TrackIR works great and I bought a 49" ultrawide screen and built a flight console with dual HDMI displays, along with hardware controls for the G1000's and other stuff. Then I bought a G2 as a bit of an experiment and to be honest, I wasn't expecting the VR experience to be as awesome as it is. I haven't plugged in my dual displays for the G1000's for weeks now. I do still fly 2D and TrackIR but most of the time it's VR now and i've also added an 8KX to the choices. Stick with TrackIR, it'll save you lots of money! :)

[@MrAnthonyfrench]

Hi mark. Will this be your headset of choice now for MSFS ? Iv got the reverb g2 and the index but want one headset that’s a good all rounder for other games.

[@SimHangerFS]

It is definitely a contender, but I am currently testing it to see if I can get the level of performance I need. 😁

[@tomtomkowski7653]

The main question is: how the hell do you get your 3090 xD I can't wait for some customer version of Varjo. Happy flying.

[@andyydna5330]

Thank you so much Mark! Would you recommend the 3080Ti or the 3090 with this Headset in MSFS or Xplane? Thank you and keep going! YOU ARE AWESOME!!!

[@SimHangerFS]

The 3080ti is better value, less expensive, performance within 5% of 3090. 👍

[@Buddy308]

I'm a little confused about compatibility. Does this VR set work with only the Steam version of MFS?

[@SimHangerFS]

No, it will work with the Store version as well, there is an app for Stean VR, WMR for Steam VR, which provides compatibility. That’s what I am using in the video.

[@SparkySven]

Superb video Mark and gives a very good insight owning one. Especially the PiMax tool to configure the entire headset looks amazing. Not a fan of SteamVR and more WMR. The Carenado C170 has a huge VR bug ending up always on the passenger seat instead of the pilot seat. The Aeroplane Heaven C140 latest version 1.2.1 is a lot better and textures are more superior. Looking forward to the next Pimax 8KX videos. Are you going to buy one too like Steve VR Flight Sim Guy did?

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hey buddy, I know you will buy one🤣 that headset is amazing. If you ever have flew with this FOV you are addicted. Imagine a more colourful picture and much bigger FOV as in your G2. That's the Pimax. Honestly said.

[@SparkySven]

@@4secsharkmr352 nope. It'd not OLED. Thats for me a deal breaker

[@SimHangerFS]

Thanks, yeah inVR I end up in the back seat in the C170 😂🤣😂 was a bit confused initially !

[@SparkySven]

@@SimHangerFS the will fix it I’m sure but updates come way later from ms in sim marketplace but that’s the only place to buy Carenado planes unfortunately

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@SparkySven 🤣🤣🤣 we have to wait a long time my friend. Until than the 8kx is the best. Mmh🤔 maybe 9kx with OLED is on my wishlist.

[@SewerShark]

Swiss001 just made a video about this, now you. Seems they are trying to get the whole Flight Simulation community.

[@stevenacton359]

how do you import it into pimax i am unable to do it with my pitool?

[@AdamsSIMporium]

Hey Mark, have you flown at night? In my 8kx in the 172 for example, cockpit lighting (the lighting in the dials) does not show with Parallel Projection on.

[@SimHangerFS]

My G1000 panels show up at night in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqXadZ2PhqtjsLM at around 13 and a half minutes.

[@AdamsSIMporium]

@@SimHangerFS Hi yeah, all the "Garmin" stuff shows up, it's just the dial lighting that doesn't.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@AdamsSIMporium oh, I’ll check it out, thanks

[@bstikkel]

Did I understand well, this headset only functions with the Steam version of MSFS?

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi, no works with Microsoft Store version as well. That’s what I am using. 👍

[@bstikkel]

@@SimHangerFS O, good. Was hoping for that for PIMAX' sake ;-) Thanks for the reply!

[@jamesleicher]

check out varjo vr3 might smoke this one ,but pricy

[@caiazzo123]

Crikey Mike that looks bigger than you. 👍🏻

[@SimHangerFS]

😂🤣😂

[@ianhenry4046]

If it's made from "rubberised" plastic that means it will probably go sticky after a while.

[@jamesohara4295]

VR sets are all very well, but when you have arthritis in your neck, TrackIR is a godsend :)

[@SimHangerFS]

Track IR is a great utility....used it for years 👍

[@paulsheather7657]

My pimax 8kx arrived yesterday and so far I am not impressed. i am getting black flickers it's a bit like a black wall they just come and go,

[@SimHangerFS]

Check what Hz your headset is running at. Sounds like it needs to be higher. Also check if you are plugged into a usb 3 port rather than a usb2 port.

[@paulsheather7657]

@@SimHangerFS it's running at 75hz at the moment I will check the USB ports And report back.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@paulsheather7657 okay at 75 hz you should be running at native 4K . And fov of normal or small?

[@paulsheather7657]

@@SimHangerFS I did some more testing today and there has been some improvements those black flickers i was talking about have gone and the FOV is now set to normal it's still getting the stutters but some fine turning should fix it.

[@rammstein1903]

hard to get a feel for the camera positioning in the plane. I understand this is a first look, but it looks like you are flying from the backseat.

[@SimHangerFS]

Fair comment…this was my error and not the headset.

[@rammstein1903]

@@SimHangerFS wasn’t trying to be critical. I’m not familiar with VR headsets and wasn’t sure if this is a typical thing with them. I’ll take your response though as this is all adjustable. Thanks

[@DJSean00]

I'm not sure how these can get a stutter free experience and less resolution, more higher quality headsets get hideous micro stutters

[@SimHangerFS]

It’s about getting the right balance between graphics and sim settings, not always easy. Often leading to compromise somewhere.

[@CrazyAboutVinylRecords]

Wearing that headset it looks like your head is in a hangar. Lol.

[@SimHangerFS]

🤣

[@virtutubavirtutuba5122]

Pimax has been around for too long without upgrading theyr product line. That is same as to buy stock when its too up high. Something better is coming soon, for this price at least I believe.

[@laartwork]

Lol. This just came out last year after being over 2 years late. They got criticism for upgrading their product line to quickly 8k, 5k, 5k+ then 8k+ then artisan and 5k super and finally 8kx came out.

[@aj2228]

Wow even old people use computers? What happened to “computers let the devil in”

[@gslayer8107]

You didn't do PIMAX any favors. I will stick with Oculus for now.

[@ShotInTheDark]

wow thats HUUUUUUGE!

[@SimHangerFS]

😂🤣😂

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

MSFS 2020 just SUCKS ! Better try it on X-Plane !

[@SimHangerFS]

It works great in Xplane.

[@cptairwolf]

The pimax is horrible. It's only got 90 of function FoV. It's like looking though a toilet roll no joke.

[@justinspirational]

You are incorrect

[@cptairwolf]

@@justinspirational the problem isn't the lens (it supports 200 degree fov). The problem is how it uses the pixels in the screen. nearly half of them go unused causing excessive blurring of anything outside 90 degree. See issue 2 listed here - community.openmr.ai/t/summary-of-known-issues-with-pimax-8k-5k-hmd-v5-that-needs-fixing/5073

[@justinspirational]

@@cptairwolf just increase resolution above 100% resolution to increase the ppd to that of the reverb G2 or better.. And easier use the fsr mod that radically increases clarity with sharpening AND boosts not lowers) fps/performance. This is legit and a game changer.. Runs great with DCS and il-2.. don't have msfs to test github.com/fholger/openvr_fsr I have no issues running at large and normal fovs at all . The closer your eyes are to the lenses (thinner foam) the less or zero distortion you see at the very edges only

[@SimHangerFS]

Hi, my video shows it off using 150 horizontal FOV, and performance wasn't bad, and I still have tweaking to do. I accept it depends on what CPU etc you have, as is the case with all VR.

[@cptairwolf]

@@SimHangerFS Everyone experience is going to differ. for me personally it was unusable and I ended up replacing mine with a Vive Pro (still has the same problem unless you're looking right down the center of the lens but once I got the lens mode to replace the fresnel lenses, it was much better). I think Fov and optical clarity are something that plague most consumer grade headsets.