PINKS- Lose The Race..Lose Your Ride! -Mazda RX7 VS Honda Civic - Import Shootout for Titles!!

[@dragforlife8660]

This needs to come back with a new fresh show in this era 🔥

[@jarjarlol]

Tv bullshit needs to die.

[@tonywilliams6765]

FOR REAL!

[@PNW_R1DER]

Yeah if people would stop sand bagging 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@kwrta]

watch hoonigan this vs that

[@dragforlife8660]

@@kwrta i do ...they just doesn't do pinks , just for fun.

[@SirenOTS]

For the last two races the civic was running NA. Geoff from Full Race posted about it on forums when it happened and they went through a TON of stuff and decided to swap turbos to much smaller then busted an intercooler coupling during the races. They also put a fake nitrous setup on to mess with them lol

[@Danielitoox_]

Really the nitrous was fake?

[@skooter2196]

NA is naturally aspirated. Turbos/super chargers are forced induction. No one is going to the track and removing their turbos to run NA 😂😂😂

[@seran2316]

@@skooter2196 clearly he said it blew a coupler and it literally ran NA. You blind? LOL

[@DickGazInYa]

I've always wondered about that. It did seem so slow for a D16 at 30psi. No boost makes sense tho.

[@landsurveyorNC]

Do you have any idea how much noise a turbo with a blown coupler makes. That’s nonsense, you would’ve heard the turbo screaming over everything.

[@jessedavis1741]

To many people sandbag, that’s why this show went up in smoke

[@chargerman426]

More like they didnt have enough people willing to risk their cars. Thats why they went to the "Pinks All Out" model. But the lack of high stakes in someone loosing a car led to them losing viewers.

[@_PJ2641]

That RX7 sandbagged the whole race untill the end he showed his true colors … That RX7 launched hard that last race .. the first two was truly just hustling the third was the ko

[@chargerman426]

​@@_PJ2641 Did i say he wasnt? Simply that people winning the game (game being out negotiating your opponent and then not screwing up in the race) didnt kill the show, people not wanting to play the game is why it died.

[@SI0AX]

@@chargerman426 With all the sandbagging that is pathetically clear to people who race, who TF would want to, lol. Loosing my car to BS rules and an obvious sand bagger, fuck that! No guy who knows what he is doing is going to risk that unless he runs a tuner shop in where he can benefit from the publicity(these guys).

[@LH2N]

Disagree. Rich and his attitude turned off the show. He just had a total dbag vibe and it ruined the moments. Not to mention his 2 cents usually were just stupid.

[@MikeJones-gn2zy]

Imagine a updated show in 2023 that would be some content right there.

[@TheVoice010]

Don’t we already kinda have it with Street Outlaws

[@Waka69520]

Drake Built, HellacatLuis, wavyk... some good racing content. Lots of drama

[@segari58able]

It would be 90% kids in hellcats lol

[@ShoneDaddy]

Rx7 hustled tf out of them

[@Seri-Katil]

Sandbagged, not hustled

[@KCCamaro]

​@@Seri-Katil Sandbagging is hustling.

[@pigeonsil240sx]

because sand bagging is such a huge problem they should mount camera to watch their feet and see if anyones letting off or tap oscillioscope into tps signal wire so if he lets off the throttle we see a voltage change, this will at least deter sandbagging

[@bulletclub4life]

he got hustled...the no bottle killed him.

[@miaquain]

That's not what an oscilloscope does. Plus I think the sandbagging is part of the game

[@scottw2157]

@@bulletclub4life the bottle was fake

[@bulletclub4life]

@@miaquain you can measure throttle position areas that is transmitted by the sensor. Not sure if it would be that accurate down to the absolute value with these cars tho, newers one or those with by wire throttle, yeah.

[@toxsicxr8ford57]

lol camera to their feet? how about to the rev meter?

[@someonesomewheresomdeday]

T1 Tony, Full Race Geoff, Headgames Dave... Some of the fastest guys in the game still. Good throw back.

[@cpcxgsr]

Ironically enough i was just thinking about Geoff. So I decided to see if I can dig up the old episode of PINKS... I miss the days running into Geoff at Etown raceway park... When turbo hondas were in their infancy stage... And Tony P would come to Jersey with the red integra and break all sorts of records. Glad to see Tony is doing well with T1 Race Development. I know Full Race is still in operation. But I haven't seen Geoff out in public for years now. I hope he's doing well! I hope he's still the big man in charge with FR!

[@scgmilan]

So many of the big names did the Honda thing back in the early 2000s

[@someonesomewheresomdeday]

@@scgmilan it's how most of us learned.

[@jellybeansupra]

Jeff Evans is in there too

[@kyle-327]

Would be nice to see a similar show like this come back since technology and cars and all has came a long way since this show came out but definitely needs more rules and hopefully a better host and etc. Doubt it would ever happen though.

[@adamh9077]

If they had current technology and could pull up datalogs to see what the throttle percentage is at until after finish line. They would know if they were letting out or changing boost or tunes

[@mojojoji5493]

Yea the rx7 launches dramatically harder at the end to maybe sandbagging at 40% throttle the whole time

[@leosam6824]

The full race pink car boost pipe blew off at the end of the 2nd race. The nitrous was never hooked up. It was there for negotiations.

[@lendersbagels01]

That Mazda hustled them from the start and I loved every moment

[@Scrapla1]

Buddy on the RX7 team had a good point, why doesn't the show have a camera on their feet to see if they lift?

[@oxval9614]

I always wondered that. Show could have probably lasted a long time if they had just put a camera on the foot

[@papabull8993]

I believe that lifting or not lifting is part of the game. If they really want equal cars, one of the shows staff would run the cars, all out, before filming, and compare times.

[@bulletclub4life]

@@papabull8993 a good driver can hide and not race the full potential of the car...deff after feel out/practice runs beforehand. If a camera was on them the whole time it would get spotted....of course in real street racing, sht like that goes on, so I guess they wanted that legit-ness than make it fair...lol

[@pacefka]

They can tell if they lift by listening on track. The rx7 pulled off the sandbag with their bad early launches. They probably turned up the psi with a hidden boost controller. Happens all the time.

[@BiIlDipperIy]

@@oxval9614 ikr? Probably would've costed less than that stupid ass hummer with the logo on it lmao. Blows my mind how people run things but hey, what do I know..

[@wags9777]

It has to have been the worst negotiation segment I've ever seen

[@neal864]

Nobody wants to lose their car lol

[@uscustomzauto]

The definition of hustled. I went to all these back in the day they need to bring this show back. I see my buddy tsr arron in there lol

[@Deetroiter]

“YOuRe sAndBAgGing…!” - half of every episode

[@fixyourautomobile]

That little civic was choked up on the single cam head or running really soft timing. The only reason they're claiming 30psi is because it very well could be seeing 30psi of manifold pressure, but that charge can't get into the combustion chamber fast enough. Definitely seemed like something was up with it or its running a stock cam in a stock or mildly ported head and can't do anything. Good older show. haha

[@gregdykie9924]

I know the car and owner. The intercooler pipe blew off had no boost

[@fixyourautomobile]

@@gregdykie9924 I knew it didn't sound or go right. Dangit

[@itsjussjerry]

@@gregdykie9924 that’s exactly what it seemed like. I’m surprised they didn’t check for that with so many professionals there. Last 2 runs you could tell there was ZERO boost.

[@GodzillaSVTMACH1]

@@gregdykie9924 What was the fastest time the Civic ran back then? 13s seconds

[@Tachyon836]

that rx7s performance was all over the place, no fuckin way

[@MacktasticSlick_]

Lol the song around 19:00 is what Hoonigan samples for their This Vs That videos

[@jonathonlyles3349]

Could always inspect time sheets to see the difference

[@russhoffman6301]

Somebody needs to tell Rich that NJ is further from Phoenix than California is.....

[@reverendmayhem7884]

HA!

[@justinm1882]

i miss this stuff grew up watching this with all my turbo cars lol thanks great vid

[@josmith213]

I always thought is was hilarious that the Hondas would make so little torque they could just bounce it off the rev limiter and dump the clutch and barely break the tires loose, thats how they staged lol. I know things have changed but back in the early 2000s ever guy with a 5 speed Honda thought he was Paul Walker

[@johnrobert2148]

If I where to agree to race with pinks. I would drive the worst car nearing the end of its life. Getting free of burdens from an old car rather than spending to fix so its "sale worthy" is sometimes the only way for some.

[@DJJ100]

I love how they say who's your negotiating for you then this guy ends up negotiating for both teams and tells them what they can and can't do " they are getting the bottle back on now how many lengths do you want"🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jasonfields7180]

Hahaha init 😅 🤣

[@Itsjustgaming859]

If they ever bring a show like this back, they need to put a throttle sensor on both cars to see if people are sand bagging. It’s so annoying to see someone lose their car all cause people wanna play games like that. I get that it’s part of the shows drama factor but its also a really messed up way to screw someone out of their car and a car is not a cheap item, especially if someone’s poured tones of money in the car itself.

[@user-vs8ox4hj2q]

Shows fakes don’t worry

[@lifeofmike5126]

Happens all the time in bracket racing that show will never come back and it was fake anyway

[@giancarlolugo9586]

​@@lifeofmike5126yeah and it's known most people didnt lose their cars, for example the race of the green mustang Foxbody vs the white catfish Camaro both cars were having issues with the headgaskets,cooling hoses and losing oil pressure both owners did agreed to set time to fix their cars but rich the host, seemed to want to start a fight between the 2 teams, and when both cars broke again the host didnt allow any of the 2 times to fix their cars, the green mustang won but the team's owner, decided to give back the Camaro to the other team after the program because he said Rich was being unffair with both teams, they just wanted to fix their cars for a clean headstart. Another guy named Cassidy who raced with an MK3 supra turbo, gave back the 69 Chevelle to the rival team because, it was said the father of the driver spent 20 years prepping the car and Mr Cassidy,thought taking a car from someone who spent 20 years prepping it, was unffair.

[@shawnsmith7773]

My car has four tires Rich: that’s a goosebump moment

[@pali1H]

Did that dude just flash the shocker when he won the car? That's so 2008, it's great.

[@getchasome6230]

It's on their shirts

[@jakedavis6835]

I know Matt, they’re the guys that started and patented the shocker symbol in 2004.

[@pali1H]

@@jakedavis6835 haha that's awesome!

[@_PJ2641]

That RX7 hustled his ass lol

[@SI0AX]

The RX7 put out BS argumens like "It's just a 1.3!" A 1.3 *rotary* is equivalent to a 2.6l piston engine. But they were just fucking with the people that don't know, lol. The rotary basically have a whole liter of displacement advantage over the 1.6l piston Honda so even with Nitrous, the Honda was screwed, lol.

[@franchute4731]

@@SI0AX bro did you watch the entire episode? the honda guys said the nitrous bottle was fake, they never used it lol

[@SI0AX]

@@franchute4731 Yeah I had watched it before, but forgot he didn't have it, stopped watching this again as soon as I realized I had already watched it. But even *if* the nitrous was real, he would still be screwed. I'm honestly a bit confused about the fake nitrous strategy. I think it was to make them look a lot slower than normal to get handicap advantages, but they ended up screwed and the opponent got all the advantages, lol.

[@Ehren1337]

@@SI0AX well i mean its a single cam d series which is really slow even boosted. b series or k series would smoke them (stock boosted d series) in stock NA form.

[@SI0AX]

@@Ehren1337 D series are not as bad as you think. Sure the B series has been proven to do 500 WHP stock block, just lower compression pistons, but there are drag cars with modified D engines make 1000 WHP with stock sleeves.

[@ninjamigs1766]

this civic was on Superstreet magazine. Not an actual article on the civic but it was seen attending an event that the Superstreet guys were either hosting or shooting.

[@Artificial_Dopamine]

Yup all games. Should always be heads up run what you brung period

[@travismott6020]

How's the tyre rotating on the rim on the civic on that first hit

[@is2fiftyslowfsport744]

Love this walk away from me track they always play when somebody loses their ride lol

[@segari58able]

This show in 2024 would be 90% hellcats 😂

[@Sweepy00]

That jump at 19:41 was sick. rx7 just took off

[@TorukRD]

Perfect launch different like other ones…. This was the trick upside down the hand

[@solo_dolo6553]

oldschool Haltech ECM so cool.

[@US_Beagle]

Lmao that rx7 was SANDBAGGIN til that last race

[@Adamc0607]

why would they do no bottle again for the last race

[@TorukRD]

I see the Mazda to Bads stars at the beginning to confuse the time at the end to brake Honda’s team plan, and at the final race the launch of the Mazda was so clean and different to the others one launch good race but for a little bit is a scam race like that 😅

[@brandonkupper6268]

That boy with the blue hair was toasted lol ha!!!

[@gaydes1012]

the reveal at the end that the nitrous was fake is so funny to me. like why? I get this whole show is just drag racers trying to hustle each other but like why try and make your car look faster than it is? I think they kinda played themselves ngl. the 5D chess move didn't work.

[@bitrage.]

I don't know if I been under a rock last few years, or if this is unique to the "Pinks" show but I have NEVER seen this kind of "Negotiations" after every single run... Like obviously if you keep trying different things until one car is faster then another, then any car can win regardless of the setup, power, or driver skill... Its a competition of which team can predict ETAs of different combinations/variables, not Which car/driver is faster.... I'm surprised the Honda didn't money shift it in the last round...🤣

[@mynameisrits]

not sure how old you are, but you must have not grown up during the street racing days, you're never going to know how much power the other guy has so it's usually best out of 3. with negotiations after the first race. there's not classes like sanctioned racing where those cars are pretty much even in weight and power that's why those are head to head and best driver wins.

[@LamentOfTheFallen]

Initial D: if Ryosuke and Shingo had a race 👀

[@ChasRebel420]

If it was me. All out. Run what you brung. Heads up. All out.

[@andrereaves2712]

We all knew that rx7 was sandbagging hard. The guys with the civic should learn to control the negotiations

[@Ehren1337]

nah civic is just slow with d series.

[@meat_dragon8834]

This show gives me strong pawn stars vibes

[@WadeWilson-]

So cool that Johnny Sins is doing the launch

[@MILANOKIS]

Can you upload the 1 hour long vdo of the vw vs the crx please?

[@watchpowertubetv]

its coming

[@Scrapla1]

That empty bottle really worked out well...

[@dakken74]

I met the guys that owned the Rx-7 at a rotary car car show called seven stock, they had a booth there. I asked them about this episode and the guys said that the nitrous bottle wasn't empty lol

[@Sweepy00]

@@dakken74 did they ever say what happened to that FC?

[@dakken74]

@@Sweepy00 I honestly don't recall. They didn't bring it to the show, their booth was more or less just merch like T-shirts and stickers and advertising for their shop.

[@MILANOKIS]

Those RX7 guys give doritos a bad name.

[@josephbrady711]

Calling rotaries doritos gives rotaries a bad name.

[@Musicreach101]

No way I would risk losing that Rx7 to that civic. Those guys in the civic have zero negotiating skills… 3 lengths with bottle.. they would have had a chance.

[@willywonkachevy]

That H1 is a sign of how much Chris loves the 🐓

[@sineater6609]

If you ask for lengths do you really Win? 🤔

[@scottaubel4959]

The Honda dudes got hustled

[@nicholashale5385]

Rx7 from my home town lol

[@oreojustinvlogs8091]

I just watched 2 straight race episode that a Honda Civic lost to a Drag Race, that's a bjt of a shock for me but I think those custom builds lacks something and maybe just the way the car is driven. Not to mention correct gear shifting

[@TheWorldOfKel]

Notice how neither driver had their helmet fully secure. Safety should be a little more looked at if this show ever comes back on 👍

[@_elitES]

Thats messed up smh. Even though it was a fake noz, that completely shows the sandbag

[@ksplashallday4876]

That mx7 was moving!!!

[@jbrayda9]

I remember watching this show on TV. But I don't remember what years it was on. Does anyone know?

[@SI0AX]

Wikipedia can help you out (Pinks TV Series). 2006-2010. The later got bought out by another company for 2015 and beyond but the original is 2006-2010.

[@bigdavedayday1581]

Lol it was a cool show but just too much sandbagging

[@datalorian]

"Full Race Stage 1 Turbo, 30 psi" lol

[@fordfairlane662dr]

Run your cars all out

[@joshuachandra6677]

This is exactly why I don't like drag racing a heap of sandbagging and a bunch of bullshit off the track that determines the win

[@Ntyuask]

Remember when 4 cylinders, making 400 hp was badass lol. Now a reliable daily makes 450, no problem.

[@hugecreature3810]

No it don't. Not even turbo 4 cylinders make that from factory. You mean v8s 400hp are not impressive anymore

[@SI0AX]

​@@hugecreature3810 Modern 4 cylinders are making like 350 CHP and can easily be tuned to 400+ WHP and be reliable. The NA V8's with 400 HP are nothing special, but they are pretty long lasting engines with 300k mile capability unlike the turbo 4 cylinders.

[@hugecreature3810]

@Sioax Aeriken not the point g. If I hear or see a 400hp 4 cylinder I'd be impressed that's the point.

[@big-R]

@@hugecreature3810 See AMG A45S, new 4-cylinder AMG C63 (any C63 out of the 3 new C63 variants), etc. You didn't know such cars exist?

[@hugecreature3810]

@@big-R those are impressive asf

[@brutalbasspro]

Granny shifting not double clutching like you should! When this episode came out I was a few years out of high school and had a civic EG hatch that I just did a b18 swap in and a 40 shot of nos that I swear would smoke both of these turbo cars. Crazy how far turbo technology and tuning has come in these years.

[@braeden10120]

You don’t double clutch while racing, maybe u mean power shifting? (Never letting off the gas while banging the gears)

[@braeden10120]

Really u don’t double clutch anything now and days, that’s how u used to drive manual trans that don’t have synchros like a old model a

[@brutalbasspro]

It’s a line from the first fast and furious. People say it when imports race, I hear it if I miss a gear at the track since I race Hondas.

[@kaikai312]

b18 on a 40 shot is like 13 seconds😂

[@brutalbasspro]

@@kaikai312 this was in 2005 13 second cars were fast.

[@mryang3644]

If that rotary was built right, it will take that civic easily

[@brutalbasspro]

Needs more brap brap for sure!

[@zacharyboone5846]

if the civic was built right, it would take the rotary. i mean that could go either way lmfao

[@mryang3644]

@Zachary Boone so let's be fair then.... An all out power packed Single honda VS An all out power packed Rotary .... that D16 would have no chance, throw a rod easily... Def a chance to win if it was a DOHC but the SOHC, he'll nah.

[@SI0AX]

@@mryang3644 There are record 1000 WHP SOHC Honda's, it's all about the build and tune. I think the 1000 WHP SOHC engine was even stock block, just some dumb block girdle thing which is pretty insane. There was a video, not sure if it was sleeved, I think it wasn't and was doing 1000 WHP on single cam 1.6 that was over bored to some number I don't remember.

[@miltonr7925]

@@SI0AX And there's 2 rotors with over 1,600 hp, your point again?

[@Darremedy1021]

Nice sportsmanship though :)

[@wubbalubba4205]

Civic needed his bottle bro they where stupid for accepting 4 with no bottle

[@samotrx7]

Ya realize the bottle was fake right?

[@claytonpehrson5105]

This is not real drag racing 1320 videos and NHRA does zero negotiating it's always 100% a heads up race with each car doing 1 solid burnout. Any jumping the line is an instant loss. That's the only real drag race that comes with what you got and either win or loose heads up. That's real drag racing

[@doublesidestephustler6094]

I agree heads up run what you brought no BS. Watch this upset me the dishonesty is sickening

[@eivad1]

Too bad speed machine couldn’t stay in business went under years later while full race is bigger than ever

[@spencertwoeightyz3383]

a rwd complaining that a fwd is running slicks and a 1.3 rotary complaining that 1.6 is bigger. those civic guys were pretty bad negotiators. they should have won the 4th race but instead just handed it over.

[@MrWonkawonka]

Both had turbos and nitrous. Run your car. Take nothing off. Turn nothing off.

[@TheEvilTwinCG2]

500hp rx7 with a bus lenght start and get so proud? Wow

[@je_yPr]

that rx7 was moving goddamn

[@dontstop6730]

How is this 3 weeks ago it’s been years

[@DriftKingNL]

Don't need 23 minutes to show a "Where's 3rd gear" Civic getting smoked by a RX-7.

[@Racer997]

All negations based on a fake bottle? That’s not smart at all. Also, driver doesn’t even buckle his helmet. Even less smart. 😒

[@carart4fun174]

for me, a race is a race. if the other team didn't bring nitro, or slicks, thats on them. Thats their fault. Civic should let the beast loose.

[@stevenhancock6544]

So when has been sandbagging become honorable

[@tonywilliams6765]

Yooooo keep ‘em comin “Matt talkin bout it’s hard to walk w sandbags”lml

[@bigf1502]

Imagine being named “Geoff” pronounced Jeff… that sucks… trying to figure that out as a kid

[@landon5104]

Bro I called a guy at work ge-off once and it was pronounced jeff

[@bigf1502]

@@landon5104 Lmaooo

[@isleofmann1088]

nice mobile phone rich. clearly this is an old episode reuploaded

[@kyle-327]

People wonder why this show ended, this episode is a prime example of why. More people lost cars on this show due to sandbagging and cheating then actually racing. The white rx7 acting like hypocrites saying the other team was sandbagging when there the true sand baggers. Like why still sand bag when you’re down 2 races lol but they’re from California so explains there IQ level. The concept of the show was interesting racing for cars, just the lack of actual “racing” instead of sandbagging central and everything else is what killed the show

[@hmoovphemtsaab2240]

The rx7 cheating for sure. Last run pulled harder than when they lined up equally. He probably adjusted boost level or not full throttle first race

[@thomas4315]

They should show the times that Mazda rotary must be doing 10 s LOL

[@ralphredmondsmull1773]

THIS RACE WAS ONE OF THE MOST UNFAIR AND ONE SIDED

[@zacharykelley359]

If I was loosing my car, and The other guy was sandbagging the whole time I would of grenade the motor.

[@jonathanrestrepo4883]

Either that car is slow asf or the driver can’t drive 😂😂

[@Tachyon836]

these negotiations are ass, you can't get mad his car is faster than yours and demand they start taking shit off.

[@whatta7793]

Bottle would have never left my car. Run what you brung.

[@eriksandoval6927]

rx7 guys are the reason pinks is done

[@Marz-px6vx]

Hate the negotiation part of pinks it should be heads up first race and all the others.

[@Tiltymilk]

Holy fucc that D series eg 😳 and I thought I was fast pushing 15psi in my D15b ek coupe

[@grabby25]

21:50 Homie got no support 😅

[@theonlycashmonee1569]

Fake noz bottle, legend

[@mynameisrits]

Rich is a good ass host, where is he now?

[@tanachum7930]

If I was rich, I’ll risk my built cars lol

[@NovaPog37]

damn that's an old show

[@turbo79civicbf]

4 and no bottle ?? come on mAn dumb move from the honda crew on that last race

[@djc2789]

Bro didn’t watch till the end 😂 it was a fake bottle

[@SI0AX]

@@djc2789 I forgot about that, lmao. I had already seen this episode and forgot. This shit ended up screwing them over. They were doing the opposite of sand bagging, lol. They basically wanted to say the opponent was a lot faster even "with nitrous" so they could negotiate and advantage, but they never could and in fact it was the opposite that happened, lol.

[@minimanadam]

Too many games, not enough racing... the Mazda was half throttle that whole 1st race

[@RoronX35]

Nah.. I think they turned the boost down all the way to gate pressure and added boost with every run. If you look at the beginning when they were showing the cars, you would see that turbosmart electronic boost controller on the dash on the left side of the steering wheel.