KSP Tutorial: How To Build A Stock Space Shuttle | NO DLC REQUIRED |

[@TheBobert567]

Hold the 'alt' key when placing the engines, makes the engine snap to the node instead of surface.

[@rileyjohnson8039]

Damn i didn’t know that after 400 hours

[@thick45]

Thanks!

[@bobbybobby4]

I didn’t know that after over 1000hours

[@Piolet1549]

thanks

[@ieatdirtwasntavailable]

this makes cargo bays make you not want to die

[@tsunamiman5512]

I couldn’t believe my eyes when my shuttle actually worked. This tutorial was so extremely detailed and you didn’t forget the tiniest things. In my opinion, this is the best KSP tutorial I have seen

[@MartinsTimermanis-ed6jm]

Well actually he forgot struts at fuel lines coz when I takeoff the SRB''s just fell apart and fuel lines coz my vector engines didn't have enough fuel

[@tsunamiman5512]

@@MartinsTimermanis-ed6jm yeah, I just added those myself, but I'm still glad my spaceshuttle launched successfully

[@LunarMARAUDER]

​@@tsunamiman5512There's auto strut you can enable that if that'll help

[@ethangbb]

Tip: Hold Alt while placing a radial attaching part to not radially attach. Helpful for Aerospikes and Vectors!

[@Piolet1549]

thanks

[@radium6962]

Thank you so much vectors are the most irritable thing to place

[@racingmhf9157]

@@radium6962 really

[@Tulin258]

How to do it on Xbox?

[@ethangbb]

@@Tulin258 I have no idea

[@scottwilliams846]

A trick I figured out myself (though I'm probably not the first one to do so) is put a probe core angled the same as your RS-25s (I usually put mine on the external tank) and control from there during ascent. It has allowed me to pretty much do a normal ascent profile when launching my shuttles.

[@lucasgrd4258]

i had the same idea recenty, although i did not execute it the same way. i placed the probe core at the back of the upper main engine and offset it into the engine base so i could still reach it by mouse if i wanted to. did the same thing with the oms (two for symmetry). then bound keys to them so i could easily switch between the first, the other or the cockpit for descent. Edit : btw i used terriers as OMS, the puff engines in this game are not near realistic appart from the fuel it's using

[@firestorm8432]

My first ever shuttle left the pad and then belly flopped, Starship style into it’s demise

[@Piolet1549]

F

[@admiralrus8098]

It’s a space shuttle sn 8,9,10 etc

[@sphansel3257]

help me as well

[@MaximillionBucks]

I recommend the the mod RCS Build Aid. It allows you to see the center of mass with fuel compared to the CoM empty. It makes it a lot easier to balance space planes so that the CoM doesn't shift too far back and make the plane flat spin on re entry.

[@Piolet1549]

thx, I'll look into it!

[@MaximillionBucks]

@@Piolet1549 I'm honestly not sure how I ever played this game without it

[@poopjeans1135]

Or you could just take the fuel out of the tanks while in the VAB or SPH. No mods needed.

[@MrSlyFox]

K, protips from the Buran: use the fairing as a nosecone of the shuttle. It's got higher max temp. While reentering, set your pitch to 40° just as NASA used to do, it really helps. And your center of mass of the orbiter itself is too far back. Try to move it towards the front, with some additional weight, like the airlock mockup and docking system. And maybe put a few separatrons on the fuel tank. I did that, bit that's just a suggestion.

[@Piolet1549]

The fairings would look a little weird imo but I'll give it a try. I actually tried to pitch to 40 during reentry, but it would ultimately still spin out. The COM being too far back was a definite problem, thx

[@_RandomPea]

I'm having no luck doing a reentry with the stock 'slim shuttle' ... Everytime it just overheats and burns up. Is it worth trying to come in backwards? Any chance you could try it as at the moment I have 3 pilots all stuck until I can be bothered to launch a rocket to get them :( I expected a stock example build to work correctly :(

[@MrSlyFox]

@@_RandomPea Your reentry angle is probably too high. Set the periapsis at about 20km and point your nose 40° above prograde. It should help

[@_RandomPea]

@@MrSlyFox ahhh I set periapsis to 41k like I do for command pods so that might be the issue. The passenger cabins just seem to be made of cardboard :D

[@MrSlyFox]

@@_RandomPea Hm...that's strange. 41km periapsis should be more than safe for reentries from low kerbin orbit

[@antonwestergaard5211]

Even though ive played the game for 800 hours i still find these incredibly useful! Thanks for em mate :)

[@Piolet1549]

awesome!

[@WEM2016]

My first (and only) shuttle did everything but glide. I rescued it by rendezvousing in orbit, putting parachutes in the cargo bay, and landing it like a capsule. Now, that's the only way I land a shuttle.

[@Piolet1549]

It's really annoying when you spend hours working on a shuttle, or SSTO and it finally works. but then you try to land and it just flips out

[@capttom144]

amazing, how accurate it looks..and even at launch and landing on the runway..fantastic job!! 👍

[@Piolet1549]

thanks

[@CACgaming007]

​@@Piolet1549the wings fall off mine and she ship falls forward or backwards????

[@dawidk1360]

These are actually so useful I'm still bad at this lol I've not landed on any other planet than Kerbin. Great tutorial 😎😎

[@Piolet1549]

thanks! Glad the vid was helpful!

[@kendalcbrown1814]

hi ineed you look mind video okay you like and like me

[@aidenbrewster4209]

Use delta V map I don’t use it but I heard it’s good

[@mikesozickgaming1012]

Thank you so much! I've been struggling to get my shuttle engines to fire up for over a month now! It worked! Thank you so much!

[@arthurmorgan3103]

Thanks so much for this build, i have got one of many parts of my space station in orbit thanks to this build

[@justinanglin1635]

You are not my friend cause your bad at fortnite

[@AsimovXV]

@@justinanglin1635 Gayming

[@zerozerosprivate5547]

This was a perfect recreation! Except for these things: (see them as hints) -the boosters were a bit too big -you didn’t put a droge Shute on

[@Piolet1549]

idk what to do about the boosters, I could have maybe done a 1.875 liquid fuel tank and then an engine below it but I dont think that would be as good. And yeah, forgot the drogue shoot :(

[@zerozerosprivate5547]

Still a great video :) Keep doing what you do!

[@rbxless]

@@Piolet1549 maybe TweakScale with the SRBs

[@amyaragundi8710]

Sorry I think you meant drag chute

[@fuelrich299]

I dare you to try to build the ISS, but assemble it in orbit exactly how the real one was assembled. Shuttle, robotic arms, etc.

[@Piolet1549]

that would be very difficult

[@josephstalin1223]

@@Piolet1549 and rewarding

[@elijahwills7331]

Well, thing is with stock space shuttles.... you need a larger external fuel tank. the 5 meter saturn v parts are the correct size, but color is a problem. The best you can do is make take a load of orange 2.5m tanks and shove them into a spherical shape.

[@scubaduckk]

You _could_ use a fairing but it would just add more weight to the vessel.

[@scubaduckk]

You could also use the 3.5 meter parts

[@elijahwills7331]

@@scubaduckk Well thing about the 3.75m parts is that they are too small. And using a fairing adds a negligible amount of weight, and the faring orange colour setting is mostly green. Overall multiple 2.5 meter orange tanks moulded into a 5m diameter is best.

[@meeast1169]

@@elijahwills7331 I don’t even have the game(yet) and this just interests me so much!

[@ironagent45]

@@elijahwills7331 I use a mode tweak scale to get the 3.75m parts scaled up to 5m, its a good solution if your on PC and really trying to make it accurate. (Its also good for other recreations I've made)

[@Loke101]

tip: You can use Heat Shields at the bottom of the orange fuel tank

[@Piolet1549]

oooOOooo, I like it, thanks

[@Coli2603]

Can’t you just use the top cap thingy for both sides?

[@Loke101]

@@Coli2603 true but I think its heavier

[@jacksgamingpsx7908]

How do you set the back of the orange thing

[@christophergonzalez6527]

that's what I did in the early days

[@Leifdoe]

I needed this video

[@Piolet1549]

Glad it was helpful

[@Kontro_7]

Tip: instead of using a fairing as the bottom tank, use a heat shield thats the same size. It is DLC and mod free too!

[@ninovitaliano7943]

Tip: if you click 1, 2, 3 and 4 on your keyboard in the VAB or SPH, you can switch between Place, Move, Rotate and Root pat respectively.

[@bobbybobby4]

Thank you so much for this...

[@Piolet1549]

^

[@ninovitaliano7943]

ah I missed the premier. keep up the good work!

[@Piolet1549]

thanks!

[@NathanWakeman]

I don't play video games but this was still helpful.

[@unknowngamedev909]

how?

[@NathanWakeman]

@Santiago Im so when I'm an adult and can play video games I will know how to build a space shuttle.

[@mechanicalturkproductions7349]

@@NathanWakeman are you not allowed to play video games as a kid or?

[@NathanWakeman]

@thateggkid I am 13 and no I am not allowed to play video games.

[@mechanicalturkproductions7349]

@@NathanWakeman Oh.. why? I don't see how video games like this could be harmful for kids. Kerbal Space program is even educational

[@DabFanatic]

Great tutorial! Looking forward to seeing more :)

[@Piolet1549]

thanks

[@cheezysot]

This man has a lisp. And I like it.

[@fade1606]

i love your videos. I hope you gonna get 2k before year end up!

[@Piolet1549]

thanks!

[@a7t0r98]

Thank you for the tips! I was finally able to get it orbit and dock with my space station.

[@nico_qwer1732]

Man, you are so underrated

[@pricelessppp]

Stock Shuttles are a pain to land! 😂

[@Piolet1549]

100% agree, much easier than starship tho lol

[@Tulin258]

Wait, you can launch?

[@aidenbrewster4209]

@@Tulin258 same

[@odeioenzos]

Hahaha did you guys land it? I always put a escape pod and let it burn

[@admiralrus8098]

I just makes mine a test before side busters and external tank

[@blaineburgess]

Damn, you thought you had subs when you made this video. you got SUB subs now bro, congrats!

[@TruthIsTheNewHate84]

Thanks for the tutorial. I tried flying the stock shuttle that comes with the Making History dlc(?) and iI couldnt figure it out. I just followed your tutorial and made my own. Its a lot better. Thank you.

[@Piolet1549]

thanks! Glad you found it helpful!

[@TruthIsTheNewHate84]

@@Piolet1549 your welcome. Just found your channel and I'm really enjoying the ksp tutorials.

[@efantheman8757]

Thanks I’m a absolute noob at this game this really helped

[@christophergonzalez6527]

tips; 1, if you want to splashdown, end your deorbit when your gonna hit at a shore, then there, except if it is a lake.......

[@samuellambert6152]

The space shuttle OMS was actually a not monopropelent, it was hypergolic fuels. So I think it is more accurate to use a liquid fuel and oxidizer engine.

[@Piolet1549]

ah, my bad

[@MattChaffe]

Glad to know you're having the same issues with reentry. I'll have to try that fuel drain you mentioned to see if that helps, but even for you it still seems really unstable.

[@XF90]

If not you, I wouldn't know how to autostrut, thank you very much!

[@bobbybobby4]

Autostrut might be one of the most useful things in all of ksp

[@XF90]

@@bobbybobby4 Agreed

[@Piolet1549]

Glad I helped

[@Kage4554]

I love how at 14:44 ludhat and guscan are like AHHHHHHH WEERE GONNNAAAA DIEEEE but irbreey is like why are they screaming?

[@oreosmith2862]

You can do three time symmetry on the vector engines then remove the one at the top from the symmetry

[@sahilarora7162]

Thank you I was looking for a video to create shuttle 😃

[@Piolet1549]

np, hope it helps!

[@complex3297]

Great video as always!

[@Piolet1549]

thanks

[@ZURTAN_L]

Greetings from the Russian "Buran")

[@Piolet1549]

lol

[@randomguyoninternetidk4014]

I built a really good looking Buran (not sure if it’s completely accurate) planning on putting it on my channel soon

[@ZURTAN_L]

@@randomguyoninternetidk4014 Good buildings are really good if I don't forget I'll take a look (I am Russian and I write through a translator, this is in case something is not clear)

[@Spaceflight_nerd]

To make it more realistic you could’ve made the front lands gear lower and add a parachute reform landing. And for better control I would put a reaction wheel in the back clipping. Into the fielsualage

[@CACgaming007]

for some reason when I made this it broke wings, detaching the clamps and fell backwards. It worked before but when I updated the game I did it the same exact way you did here, auto strut and all and it just breaks and falls for no reason. Might just be auto strut jank shaking it apart but I'm to lazy to try anything else rn just to be disappointed when it don't work

[@angusantley2542]

@Piolet1549 the space shuttle actually did have the 4 way RCS blocks at the back but they where kind of not noticible

[@YourAverageVrPlayer]

Good build but I couldn’t make the external tank nose cone orange

[@ajj9981]

Thank you very helpful to angel engines had problem with all my shuttles before i did this thank you

[@kerbal8216]

If you do a non dlc shuttle use the 5m tanks you get more control and it can get orbit using just the tank leaving loads of fuel in the shuttle systems to get a really high orbit for flexibility (also its the correct size in terms of looks)

[@Piolet1549]

k thx

[@CACgaming007]

​@@Piolet1549when I built the shuttle recently it falls over off its stands when trying to launch, breaking the wings off. Why does this happen?

[@Doomslayer2163]

Great job on space shuttle 👍

[@scottwilliams846]

Hey, something you can do is add a probe core and tilt it foreword (with snap on and holding shift) 3 times. That way you can aerobrake on reentry by hitting control from here on it. Learned that from VAOS and it worked when I tried it.

[@alt8791]

Actually, the real OMS engines are bipropellant engines that are of nearly identical design to the Apollo’s SPS engine.

[@Piolet1549]

yeah... wups

[@Twisted_.better]

Columbia at almost at the end

[@Aceb_k]

The external tank could be a little lower, it would also help the COM to be lower for the Vector engines, but great job!

[@bobbybobby4]

Lowering the COM would mean the vectors would have to compensate even more. Although I do also think the tank was unrealistically high up on the orbiter.

[@Piolet1549]

agreed, orange tank was slightly high

[@fevsea]

Instructions unclear, now I have a Buran.

[@Coli2603]

You should make an action group to toggle the gimble on the vectors

[@Piolet1549]

yeah I should

[@camerondeatcher9668]

Thanks for this, all of my shuttles tend to explode

[@Piolet1549]

np, hope it helped

[@togusarc8882]

Nice video. That the shuttle becomes unstable upon re-entry was already evident during the construction. Center of mass is too far back, it should be clearly in front of the lift point. And only 575 m/s in the tank of the OMS is too little. Especially when you consider that there was no cargo in the cargo bay. So empty it should be at least 900 to 1000 m/s. The tip with the Trainvalve is great.

[@Piolet1549]

I believe the Center of Mass was slightly in front of the center of lift during landing, or else it would have been completely unstable. About the OMS's, a big reason the delta V was a bit low was because I never drained the fuel from the MK2 adaptors I used to make the OMS pods which was just dead weight. thanks btw :)

[@austin6086]

I don't know if they're intended to be used this way IRL or not but the tail fin of the orbiter and the bottom of the SRBs are level with each other on the real space shuttle, I've built mine to be similar and I haven't had any issues with it falling over without using launch clamps. I think I may have mounted my orange tank too low though, so that could be helping with keeping the center of mass low enough to not be an issue with this

[@rifqiathafif9962]

The ppl who buy dlc: bruh you joke to me KSP The ppl who no buy dlc: ahh i love the tutorial

[@Piolet1549]

:)

[@Shiwo_2]

Hmm nice content I like it (I'm new on your channel :))

[@Piolet1549]

thanks

[@adwaith9516]

Use the shuttle's front nosecone for the oms pods so you don't have put the extra thing in the cargo bay so you can have more cargo

[@Reflective_09]

Thanks for the tutorial! Now I can build a space station

[@banlyzhaun8385]

With the mod radio heat shields, you can make a heat shield on the belly of the shuttle like a real shuttle

[@richmountain1128]

One thing that would make this thing better: If the main engines are not gonna be used for the rest of the flight, why not put them on the tank and expend them? That would allow for a more efficient flight profile and means more monopropellant for more Delta-V and therefore a Mun or Minmus mission would be possible. Or would that break the accuracy and result in a “That never happened” attitude with your fellow subscribers?

[@arty7926]

Awesome Tutorial!

[@slickdiggler1197]

Good video. Keep em coming.

[@Piolet1549]

thanks! I will!

[@Ethan.YT.]

If you use liquid fuel engens as your orbital maneuvering system swap the monopropellant tank for a liquid fuel one and then a decoupler and disabled staging then the mount whitch you clip into it so you don't use the fuel from the liquid tank

[@TexasRailfan09]

hey quick thing, I have no idea if it's DLC or not, but there is a fuel tank that is like the bottom of the external tank, it's the S3-900R Hope this helps anyone looking for a better solution to fairings!

[@MrBigMan25]

you deserve more attention

[@MrBigMan25]

just the editing and the work

[@jonvanmaaren]

Maybe you could make an payload tutorial and add a parachute to the space shuttle to decelerate at the runway

[@Alex-jd8if]

Nice design , easy to get to orbit, thanks!

[@meeast1169]

Loved the vid! Do you think this is possible to perform this all on a ps4?

[@Piolet1549]

thanks! This should all be do able on ps4

[@meeast1169]

@@Piolet1549 awesome! Thx

[@scottwilliams846]

When I click action groups and then any control surface, I see "#autoLOC_6006035". There is "Toggle", "Enable", and "Disable" same vessel interaction, "Toggle Deploy", "Extend", and "Retract" before the #autoLOC_6006045.

[@splinterdbl9103]

Same problem here. Have you found a solution?

[@scottwilliams846]

@@splinterdbl9103 yeah. A pencil and paper to copy what they are off this video. I went and tested in game and they all match up.

[@scottwilliams846]

@@splinterdbl9103 I have it in shorthand and written in the physical order they appear on screen with A being activate, D being deactivate and T being toggle. I also have room in case some other things has the weird code instead of what it does. So far, control surfaces are the only things I've found.

[@scottwilliams846]

@@splinterdbl9103 I can make a community post on my channel which no-one ever visits with a picture of my notes. Just for you and any other future readers of this comment thread.

[@splinterdbl9103]

@@scottwilliams846 thank you so much

[@Decefied]

Ok, so im having a problem, the engines on the space shuttle dont get the fuel from the orange tank so it fires up but shuts off because it ran ouut of fuel, how do i fix this?

[@nicodo123]

technically the OMS engines were a variant of the AJ10 engines, so if you wanted to be more accurate, you could've used the Wolfhound engines (of course, you would need Making History for that).

[@helplessdoggoyt6508]

For some reason my vector engines aren't being fed any fuel, can you help me solve that?

[@Piolet1549]

make sure you enable crossfeed on the orange tank decoupler

[@helplessdoggoyt6508]

@@Piolet1549 thank you i just noticed i had crossfeed on enable and not disable

[@christophergonzalez6527]

Add fuel ducts or enable crossed on the seperator.

[@rocketthezmogus3743]

wow you are just better than matt lowne at making shuttles lol

[@Piolet1549]

IMO Matt does weird stuff to his shuttles, like why does he put canards and use MK3 as part of his orange tank.. But hey I still liked his vid so I guess it doesn't matter that much lol

[@SheepyKSP]

Hooray a tutorial that does not need the dlc :D

[@Piolet1549]

:)

[@SheepyKSP]

:)

[@MakeItFlyofficial]

1:12 I dint have the things below the gimbal limit which version are u using mine is 1.10 I had to tilt the vector engines to make the shuttle fly and after separating SRBs in vacuum it just pitches up because of it

[@Piolet1549]

the thing below the gimble thing is from a mod called tweakscale. And you should have to tilt the vectos before launch.

[@MakeItFlyofficial]

@@Piolet1549 ok will try

[@2gunjimmy144]

Haha im new to the game and wanted to go in over my head with a build like this, I thought I did it correctly until when I began to take off, the Clydesdales somehow decoupled from the orange tank leaving the shuttle on the launch pad

[@aghostofrazgriz5137]

You have a Lisp. I'm Hooked. Subscribed.

[@Row06n]

When mine launches it goes up a little then goes down a crashes. Btw I play on controller

[@Piolet1549]

well thats not good

[@KnightoftheSorryFace]

@@Piolet1549 which part? The crashing or the controller

[@justbuilding8598]

Tip: You can use 2 Radial Parachutes for the SRB's

[@nightowl9242]

Amazing video!

[@cyrtonic]

One question, how do I get the "Activate Yaw Control" and "Deactivate Yaw Control" and stuff like that? Otherwise, amazing tutorial!

[@Piolet1549]

if you go to assign a control surface to an action group, the option should be there. thanks!

[@BickSnarf]

I'm sure you know this but if you hold alt while trying to connect the nodes it'll auto snap to the nodes and not try and place it on the side :p

[@Piolet1549]

thanks :)

[@bekeiijewere6204]

Thanks so much for the tutorial, please can you do like a series?

[@Piolet1549]

NP. Already have plans to do SLS, N-1, buran/ Energia and saturn V

[@GDR007]

This was the first ever rocket I built in Sandbox mode so technically my first rocket!

[@mattyjmar10]

Very useful. Thanks!

[@Piolet1549]

Glad you liked it!

[@CACgaming007]

@@Piolet1549 hey how do you copy and duplicate parts like how you did with the big orange engines

[@raphaelantonrainer]

Very Helpful

[@Piolet1549]

thanks!

[@letsdosomething6691]

Have you tried heat shielding on the belly? The real version had about 6 inches thick of heat shielding and there are some cool stories of it failing and the science of how it was supposed to work and does work.

[@ASMG3F]

New sub because i love space

[@hosamamawi7213]

Nice voice btw 💜🖤 Microphone i mean 😅😄

[@Piolet1549]

thanks

[@Kontro_7]

Unfortunately alot of people (including me) can't make the orange tank nose orange. I used a bunch of converters going from big to small and a small nose cone. Its not perfect but it's very good. If you don't like that, just follow the tutorial as he says and don't paint the tanks and its like the old shuttle launches.

[@JWCPRODUCTIONS12]

why do the boosters keep falling off!??

[@DaftTFD]

Why can't I make and action group to disable / enable the ailerons

[@Piolet1549]

IDK, thats weird

[@christophergonzalez6527]

go to actions>custom 1>click on the ailerons> configure them to; toggle pitch, roll, and yaw,>press build, there

[@Cheese145b]

Add landing parachute to slow down enough

[@paktony2]

Im trying to get the hang of this man but you're moving so fast 😭 i can't keep up. Having to pause and rewind to see what parts you used and damn idk if this was meant to be beginner friendly but its coming along nicely atleast lol much love

[@lambdaboy9999]

There is a vid from Mike Aben but idk if he uses mods

[@sergegordeev9426]

2:40 Useful for me)) I'm going to build a nuclear shuttle

[@paulfragemann3333]

One RealLife Fact: The OMS Thrusters weren't Monopropellant egines They were actual hypergolic Bipropellant engines burning monomethylhydrazine and dinitrogen tetroxide.

[@Piolet1549]

yeah I may have gotten that wrong lol

[@paulfragemann3333]

@@Piolet1549 Many people get that wrong... Rocket sience isn't easy and there many different Propellant types out there. And in ksp its musch easyer to use Monoprop engines for the oms cause then you can't exidently burn your oms fuel during the first phase of accent

[@paulfragemann3333]

Oh wait in Real Life on 4 flights the oms was used during accent beacause of really heavy payloads

[@I3abyDaddy]

@@paulfragemann3333 So you can't spell but you know NASA's Shuttle well enough to tell me the chemical propellants and type of engines.

[@paulfragemann3333]

@@I3abyDaddy Jep I'm German and typed that on my phone, with an German Autocorrection, but I usually can't even Spell German correctly....

[@Only-TSG13]

really cool, but you forgot the peraschutes

[@grahamr2809]

I believe that the Space Shuttle usually has cargo in it on launch...

[@Piolet1549]

Cargo moves the COM closer to the orbiter which makes it easier to control. For the sake of the tutorial I wanted to show people the hardest to control state

[@grahamr2809]

@@Piolet1549 right.... I think it makes sense to show that it has the fuel to get a payload into LKO.

[@lunniykorabl7182]

Amazing replica and I will definitely try this at home.Reckon I might use terriers for their higher twr tho.Dont know if they have a higher isp as well

[@bobbybobby4]

Terriers have a much higher isp and they provide substantially more thrust. The only downside is realism

[@Piolet1549]

^ yup

[@lunniykorabl7182]

@@bobbybobby4 Thank you!