Pioneer DJ DDJ-FLX4 (Smart Fader)

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@djpnominal
@djpnominal Жыл бұрын
I've been a DJ for over 20 years and I must say that this is brilliant! No matter if you are a new DJ just starting out or a seasoned vet this is a DOPE feature to add to your back of transition tricks!
@5p3nc3r
@5p3nc3r Жыл бұрын
some will see it as cheating but things move on, work smarter not harder. at the end of the day its about the crowd having a banging night... not how you make that happen.
@grahammason8558
@grahammason8558 10 ай бұрын
Imo it's completely taken the life and soul out of the whole scene. Talentless arseholes everywhere. More time to be more creative and do a wee tic tok before you hit the next button. Bs
@DjRogerC913
@DjRogerC913 3 ай бұрын
Back when I was learning over 15 years ago the thought of this was so far away 😂 I am thinking of getting the ddj200
@amfre
@amfre 12 күн бұрын
20 years dj and how you can apprecieate that? that sounds horrible with that bpm difference.
@antonkevin9493
@antonkevin9493 Жыл бұрын
Back in the ddj 400 days we had to do it the hard way 😂
@DJChipsandGarlic
@DJChipsandGarlic 10 ай бұрын
nice :)
@beesting6135
@beesting6135 7 ай бұрын
Not hard
@MartinTwo-yy6wf
@MartinTwo-yy6wf 5 ай бұрын
No no, back in the vinyl days THAT'S when we had to do it the hard way. No sync button or bmp counters, just a good ear for music!
@ignoranceisnotatrend4669
@ignoranceisnotatrend4669 3 ай бұрын
​@@MartinTwo-yy6wf SAY IT LOUDER THAN LOUD AGAIN 👏🏾 😤 🤧 remember the hard work of looking through crates of records to find the next song to mix with 😮😮😮now days they have automatic transition mode buttons and snycfunctions for a mixing.
@AlvaroALorite
@AlvaroALorite 2 ай бұрын
​​@@MartinTwo-yy6wf no no, back in the 19th century THAT'S when we had to do it the right way and actually compose something.
@turtledude01
@turtledude01 8 ай бұрын
Just got a ddj flx4 as my first console, loving it already :D
@NicoShorts2000
@NicoShorts2000 5 ай бұрын
Hey what program are you using? Rekordbox? How‘s your progress going? I just ordered the flx4 as my first console aswell! I‘m thinking about using rekordbox cheapest subscription service as my software but im unsure
@turtledude01
@turtledude01 5 ай бұрын
@@NicoShorts2000 I'm using rekordbox, the console opens up a ton of features and I've found no reason to pay for any subscriptions yet, I just do it all for fun myself in VRChat
@salviohexia7348
@salviohexia7348 5 ай бұрын
@@NicoShorts2000Im pretty sure they gave you recordbox full version
@NicoShorts2000
@NicoShorts2000 5 ай бұрын
@@salviohexia7348 for buying the flx4? I received it but not a registration code - I only need that to use the cloud space right?
@felipefuego9436
@felipefuego9436 3 ай бұрын
@@salviohexia7348nah
@sicfxmusic
@sicfxmusic Жыл бұрын
DJs from now should be called SJs aka Smart Jockeys 😁😁
@benom6852
@benom6852 Жыл бұрын
software...jays...
@SupreemTeam
@SupreemTeam 10 ай бұрын
And DJs Dumb Jockeys?
@Spoder_Man420
@Spoder_Man420 7 ай бұрын
Djs now arw being called glorified spotify players
@Jujufires
@Jujufires 5 ай бұрын
@@Spoder_Man420who cares? Everybody will always have their own opinion. Just do what YOU love to do and you’ll live a happy and long fulfilling life.
@ignoranceisnotatrend4669
@ignoranceisnotatrend4669 3 ай бұрын
As djs we can't control the technology that's being created for djing, the biggest problem is that if you didn't dj in the 70s, 80s and early 90s you really don't understand the craftsmanship and the art of djing, scratching, bpm, and having a ear for music 🎶 🎵 👌 it's like a course you have to earn and learn 😉 so in the comments section don't be mad at young djs who want to learn how to scratch and mix because they don't understand the concept💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽so it's a plus that equipment is able to be made to help make it easier 😉 learn and study the art before purchasing equipment and thinking it's going to turn you into DJ JAZZY JEFF 💯💯💯💯👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@mystic6903
@mystic6903 Жыл бұрын
For live performances ✨️ this feature is cool 😎
@Zsob007
@Zsob007 Жыл бұрын
I don't get why people get mad over it. I mean I get it but you can just turn it off and don't use it. Or am I wrong?
@a.d.1926
@a.d.1926 Жыл бұрын
they want everyone to suffer or follow the same path bc they suffered before lol
@TheRealCalijokes01
@TheRealCalijokes01 Жыл бұрын
@@a.d.1926lol I’m new so hearing the crybabies 😢is 😂funny to me but I just want something that can do everything
@andydiamond5818
@andydiamond5818 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got one you can turn it on and off
@madinge711
@madinge711 11 ай бұрын
They don’t like innovation and think that this feature will create less skilled DJs, when in fact it should make DJs more creative 😂
@Djtaaavooo
@Djtaaavooo Ай бұрын
Yeah like you still need to understand phrasing and stuff to make it sound good. It’s a tool like any other
@Newt211
@Newt211 6 ай бұрын
Grimes needs to get this
@azwell45
@azwell45 6 ай бұрын
lol
@BigBry4n
@BigBry4n 4 ай бұрын
I thought this is what she uses an it malfunctioned
@SlotCar2021
@SlotCar2021 Жыл бұрын
You can keylock and sync and move the fader. Not a fan of it increasing as you fade it, especially if it drops the bpm down.
@iamtheguitar
@iamtheguitar Жыл бұрын
yeah you only bring it down as an effect to bring it right back up. And you only bring it up when there's no base, then the crowd is more okay with it
@Kamil2012iam
@Kamil2012iam Жыл бұрын
Thank, bro, for the DnB 🤘🤘🤘
@robsundance203
@robsundance203 4 ай бұрын
So clean 👌🏻
@Ayecartermusic
@Ayecartermusic 3 ай бұрын
Mine is on the way. Can’t wait
@gangstaelegantproductions2780
@gangstaelegantproductions2780 11 ай бұрын
Oldheads will be oldheads... No matter what industry. Yall keep hating and not adapting, see how you do.
@dirkdiggler2379
@dirkdiggler2379 10 ай бұрын
Even Grandmaster Flash is on some new Pioneers. He said its blown his mind what they can do LOL.
@deleladululu
@deleladululu 9 ай бұрын
It just gets eazyier 😊😝
@michaellynch8612
@michaellynch8612 5 ай бұрын
The alpha theta omnis duo destroys that hunk of plastic. And it's a true stand alone console
@erosin3470
@erosin3470 4 ай бұрын
Well yeah, at almost 5x the cost it should.
@stevemosley4084
@stevemosley4084 Күн бұрын
Exactly everyone doesn’t have that kind of money for a controller or some of us just do this as a hobby
@Anglo_Browza
@Anglo_Browza Жыл бұрын
Can you get one that picks the next track as well and auto fades across every 4 minutes
@pammy5260
@pammy5260 6 ай бұрын
Whats the point of buying dj equipment that does everything for you? Thats not dj’ing! Dj’ing is when you do it yourself. If you dont want to select tracks or mix them, just accept you arent interested in dj’ing. It got crazy how much all this technology has changed since i done it.
@Anglo_Browza
@Anglo_Browza 6 ай бұрын
@@pammy5260 it’s a joke…
@lucasdestefano8009
@lucasdestefano8009 Ай бұрын
@@Anglo_Browzajokes are supposed to be funny my boy
@Anglo_Browza
@Anglo_Browza Ай бұрын
@@lucasdestefano8009 I’m no boy, Lucy
@AdventurousMagic
@AdventurousMagic 9 күн бұрын
😂 Automate it and grab a beer 🍻
@MrMikusha
@MrMikusha 4 ай бұрын
With such mixed in the club I’ll be looking for the exit
@AlexanderDemergis
@AlexanderDemergis Жыл бұрын
I want to get into DJing. Do you feel this automation of mixing ruins the art of learning mixing if a smart fader can do it better? How should it be used intelligently?
@BrokenSharpie35
@BrokenSharpie35 Жыл бұрын
Ruins the art. Start off with a DDJ-200 and learn techniques first. Learn how to count bars, and how to properly mix. When you go into a club, A lot of them aren’t going to have a setup like that in order to automatically use those functions.
@alexanderangelkov6338
@alexanderangelkov6338 Жыл бұрын
don't buy pioneer gear unless you plan on playing in clubs. Its overpriced, with less functionality and overall shittier than denon and native instruments yet pioneer players are the standart for clubs and festivals for some reason
@victorpunet8392
@victorpunet8392 Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderangelkov6338 Pioneer is just more intuitive. It might have less features and be mor expensive, but it just gives you exactly what you want. Swithing between devices is easy (they all work quite the same), and everything is refined to a point where you can play without even watching at your console because you can rely completly on the feeling it gives you. And this is something you really want for higer level Djing, for a solid standard at clubs, and also when you have to spend hours and hours working with it. For example, the mechanic Jogwheel. Its a must, you cant be aware all the time to not touching by accident your Denon MC tactile pad because your music will completly stop. With the mechanic one, I can even put my hand on it and wont stop until I decide pushing it down Idk it just gives you
@victorpunet8392
@victorpunet8392 Жыл бұрын
Idk how well this feature works but you will probably never really feel like that you can rely on it 100%, so it might turn to something like the Beat Sync. You use it sometimes when your lazy to match a 123 with a 123.6, but not as your main wapon for mixing the tracks. And yes, as others wrote just try learning all the basic things before going into James Hype stuff, it will really wide out your potential building on a solid base of understandin
@jasonfnorth
@jasonfnorth Жыл бұрын
@@buddhabinaural Best DJ comment I’ve ever read… and kind of you to offer to reply to message for help. hats off to you mate! Blessings in 2023!
@patmer2087
@patmer2087 9 ай бұрын
If ur into quick mashups then this would certainly help. Or transitions.
@buddafingaz9403
@buddafingaz9403 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait til the "mobile" update comes out for this 🔥💯👍👌 Definitely a game changing DJ controller....Respex, Big Upz, & Mad Love to Pioneer DJ for this new DJ controller, its awesome, and fun for quick on the go sets etc...Or even for beginner up & coming DJ's, as well too ....👌🔥💯😎
11 күн бұрын
how do you connect both speakers? I can only connect one of them with my laptop
@horacioalvarez5858
@horacioalvarez5858 3 ай бұрын
Excelente
@K1d56
@K1d56 3 ай бұрын
I need this
@erniebankz4847
@erniebankz4847 Жыл бұрын
IDC what people say this is fucking sick and if used properly will add great energy change ups in mixes and nightclubs
@llewellyn56
@llewellyn56 Жыл бұрын
today's Dj so easy.....i'm old school 12 inch the best
@gilboogie
@gilboogie Жыл бұрын
Is that a Rekordbox feature? What If your using the controller with Serato ?
@Manysinone
@Manysinone Жыл бұрын
I want this so bad!
@THEMOCU
@THEMOCU 5 ай бұрын
YOOOOOOOOO FUCK YEAH THATS EPIC
@TxmDrmr
@TxmDrmr Жыл бұрын
Ppl are cryiing because of the smart cfx and the smart fader. Go cry elsewhere, you can just turn them of if needed and do it the conventional way.
@mbrochh82
@mbrochh82 Жыл бұрын
If I would use this at a live gig, I would die of shame.
@shantanubineewale
@shantanubineewale 8 ай бұрын
CRAZYYYYYYYY
@RETAXUSgaming
@RETAXUSgaming Жыл бұрын
I’m planning of Maybe buying one of those soon how much do they cost?
@rushnready
@rushnready Жыл бұрын
doesn't work like this on serato, doesn't chaneg the bpm
@bboymac84
@bboymac84 Жыл бұрын
This feature is just for Rekordbox users
@Павел_П
@Павел_П Жыл бұрын
Someday we don't need djs anymore
@NewzAndReviewz
@NewzAndReviewz Жыл бұрын
Not true you have to go by the crowd
@lazerrhino
@lazerrhino 10 ай бұрын
"oh no djs have to twist 1-2 less knobs wahhhh"
@AJourneyFromNothing
@AJourneyFromNothing 10 ай бұрын
@@user-yv7dt5je1lthat would be very strange on acid. Or when humanity becomes collectively enlightened, there will be an urge for something more real and organic to channel through the sounds and movements of sounds to connect to said “audience”. As one organism. It would be very strange to have something to guide or carry along with the crowd that just doesn’t feel the same way we do. A lot of ai will change the effects, transitions, etc making it a lot simpler for us to DJ, sure, maybe, but there will still be a living entity or human that will be present to channel that information in-along-with. Either that, or somehow the AI eventually reaches a level of intelligence that it gains sentience awareness.. consciousness. Imagine, a being moving through and creating music that not only merges and matches with the crowds energy, but also intends to carry us into certain states of consciousness in which we want. Imagine a rave we go to SPECIFICALLY for sexual pleasure, the music would be tuned to carry us there, or an event to carry us into meditation, or an event that delivers a wholesome euphoria.
@NeroDj75
@NeroDj75 15 күн бұрын
How long is the RCA cable?
@ricardoleal2022
@ricardoleal2022 Жыл бұрын
Já gostei
@Baztation
@Baztation Жыл бұрын
Can I ask which cable you connected to speaker? RCA to RCA or RCA TO TRS or RCA TO XLR... to get the best sound out...Thank you
@DiscoStickDave
@DiscoStickDave Жыл бұрын
If you want to get this running into a proper sound system don't use a cable direct from the controller. Plug the controller into a mixer then XLR the mixer into the PA
@ovitormoreira
@ovitormoreira Жыл бұрын
Ainda vou conseguir comprar esses equipamentos ❤
@koldzo23
@koldzo23 5 ай бұрын
What will be better? Traktor control s3 vs piooner ddj flx4? Im beginner dj, which one will be more future-proof?
@chinchpokli2go
@chinchpokli2go 4 ай бұрын
Flx4 as it is not only for beginners but also intermediate and pro djs
@salviohexia7348
@salviohexia7348 4 ай бұрын
flx4 beaucse it has more tutorials than any controller ever
@HeroBeatbox
@HeroBeatbox 5 ай бұрын
Anybody knows if this one is a good one to start out?
@meenam300zx
@meenam300zx 3 ай бұрын
Hi Dan What type of speakers are you using?
@quessostudio3707
@quessostudio3707 7 ай бұрын
Is it function hides in recordbox actually or it’s available for this controller only? Can I do it on ddj400?
@steveoufc
@steveoufc 3 ай бұрын
What DJ program are you using
@92Hary
@92Hary Жыл бұрын
Is it the new hardware or software function? Does it work on ddj-400 too ?
@CH_Prod
@CH_Prod 11 күн бұрын
wow
@djurban9155
@djurban9155 3 ай бұрын
Una pregunta que me recomiendan más el flx4 o el rev o el númark de pantalla
@ernestinaserrano7833
@ernestinaserrano7833 9 ай бұрын
43 years in the business I started in
@ernestinaserrano7833
@ernestinaserrano7833 9 ай бұрын
1980 is when I started and it's so easy enough for anybody even my grandma to be a DJ in a way kind of cool and another way we used to fight sweat and carry big ass and record crates for our money. I'm now 58 years old and I guess even the baby just needs a laptop or DDJ
@kaidenlin360
@kaidenlin360 3 ай бұрын
what's the best program to get music from?
@horrorgorecollector
@horrorgorecollector Жыл бұрын
GAMECHANGER!!!!!
@sicfxmusic
@sicfxmusic Жыл бұрын
...FOR LAZY PEOPLE!!!!
@salimusicreal_
@salimusicreal_ 5 ай бұрын
Hi, What software did you use in this video?
@AlexLassaMusic
@AlexLassaMusic 4 ай бұрын
Pioneer controllers works on rekordbox
@altugbey1
@altugbey1 11 ай бұрын
Which programme is he using on macbook?
@deepak8586
@deepak8586 3 ай бұрын
fuckk this is crazy!!
@anjana4812
@anjana4812 5 ай бұрын
Which speaker you use
@karaoke6861
@karaoke6861 8 ай бұрын
Hi thanks. Does thie feature mix in key please ?
@pritamhalder8529
@pritamhalder8529 10 ай бұрын
What is the most ideal DJ'ing DAW? Can someone pls tell me!
@jasenalapati665
@jasenalapati665 Жыл бұрын
Greetings . What speakers are those ? Thanks
@maya_ntr5625
@maya_ntr5625 4 ай бұрын
I believe they're the Pioneer DJ DM-40D speakers. I have the same set up and they're pretty good. They also have a switch that enables you to swap from DJ mode to Production mode.
@DJToneyBAward
@DJToneyBAward 4 ай бұрын
were watching
@zman360auz
@zman360auz Жыл бұрын
This probably works better if the BPM difference and genre aren’t crazy different. Feel like if you mixing between crazy BPM differences or genres then you gotta be more clever
@TwitchGavi
@TwitchGavi Ай бұрын
Can I get that app on a iPad?
@elwinceria8266
@elwinceria8266 9 ай бұрын
What model and brand your speaker sir?
@maya_ntr5625
@maya_ntr5625 4 ай бұрын
I believe they're the Pioneer DJ DM-40D speakers. I have the same set up and they're pretty good. They also have a switch that enables you to swap from DJ mode to Production mode.
@elwinceria8266
@elwinceria8266 4 ай бұрын
@@maya_ntr5625 thank you
@itsmazzavisionpt2257
@itsmazzavisionpt2257 9 ай бұрын
🎉
@kalpeshhingmire9900
@kalpeshhingmire9900 2 ай бұрын
What is price of this
@Skeletonsklyyy
@Skeletonsklyyy 9 ай бұрын
Where the speaker from which brand?
@TheYaq
@TheYaq Жыл бұрын
And what happens if you mix to the same genre?
@ianjasonmarquez2311
@ianjasonmarquez2311 Жыл бұрын
what software?
@ibrahim4110
@ibrahim4110 Ай бұрын
What's the name of the last song ???
@UniQueDJ_
@UniQueDJ_ 6 ай бұрын
Where can I get it
@LewisHenry-jz3pm
@LewisHenry-jz3pm Жыл бұрын
How much for a Dj board
@mapachegordo6209
@mapachegordo6209 Жыл бұрын
Wich laptop do you use?
@krisis8736
@krisis8736 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t get the software to run on pc. Lagged after awhile of playing. I had to install it on my MacBook.
@_Tilver_
@_Tilver_ Жыл бұрын
full song?
@nitrousdnbuk
@nitrousdnbuk Жыл бұрын
Why’s the softwhere you use man
@MVPHalfy
@MVPHalfy 8 ай бұрын
creativmode
@Mimi.the.legend
@Mimi.the.legend Жыл бұрын
Sheeshhh
@imacruzangyal
@imacruzangyal Жыл бұрын
Are you able to turn off the smart fox and smart fader? I couldn’t seem to find an answer on that
@isaacsanchez7317
@isaacsanchez7317 Жыл бұрын
i assumed you can lmao i just bought one i'll kill myself if you can't turn it off
@ImagineTutorial
@ImagineTutorial Жыл бұрын
@@isaacsanchez7317 I'm pretty sure the button he pressed in the start was to enable smart fader.
@isaacsanchez7317
@isaacsanchez7317 Жыл бұрын
@@ImagineTutorial oh yep that's it, ty
@ImagineTutorial
@ImagineTutorial Жыл бұрын
@@isaacsanchez7317 no problem!
@xxxCarly1532xxx
@xxxCarly1532xxx Жыл бұрын
yes!! it’s a button, just press to toggle on or off
@monuchauhan3078
@monuchauhan3078 Жыл бұрын
Bro kiya Parise hai iska
@ANIMATER_MAZAR
@ANIMATER_MAZAR 11 ай бұрын
konbyen lajan denond sa
@dj4Reel
@dj4Reel Жыл бұрын
that's a great mixer for children
@_CIA
@_CIA Жыл бұрын
You would know
@69ingpandas76529
@69ingpandas76529 Жыл бұрын
@@_CIA take it you got one
@69ingpandas76529
@69ingpandas76529 Жыл бұрын
yeah it would be a gd way for my daughter to mix
@5p3nc3r
@5p3nc3r Жыл бұрын
FLX 4 is serato and rekordbox and features work with both but pioneer say better with rekordbox
@anjana4812
@anjana4812 5 ай бұрын
Speaker?
@keishlapacheco5627
@keishlapacheco5627 Жыл бұрын
How is program you use
@джонітаракан
@джонітаракан Жыл бұрын
пшол нах підр
@TheOneTaboo
@TheOneTaboo Жыл бұрын
Do you guys have a pioneer flx4 bundle with speakers?
@Woofinator3000
@Woofinator3000 4 ай бұрын
Thats like cheating lol jk RAD!!
@ben-zen_official
@ben-zen_official Жыл бұрын
I cheep gymic that beginners will rely upon, Still it's better than the merge effects feature in the flx6.
@srinivasraonasanasa7198
@srinivasraonasanasa7198 Жыл бұрын
Price please
@DazTv2k
@DazTv2k Жыл бұрын
£280
@ilyaigumnov3094
@ilyaigumnov3094 9 ай бұрын
Songs???
@andreacorrado
@andreacorrado 2 ай бұрын
You forgot to match up the bpm…
@the_greatest_
@the_greatest_ Жыл бұрын
Lets get rid of the laptops and go back to vinyl only!
@str0kedj
@str0kedj Жыл бұрын
Why? Because only real djs use vinyl? A decent dj can play on any format,,after all its all about the music.
@the_greatest_
@the_greatest_ Жыл бұрын
@@str0kedj This is beyond the basic vinyl vs computer argument this is literally braindead AI mixing.
@BASSSLINEEE
@BASSSLINEEE 6 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who doesn’t like using this
@rodrigobolinhadj1
@rodrigobolinhadj1 Жыл бұрын
Alô
@OumarFofana-k1p
@OumarFofana-k1p 3 ай бұрын
Salut
@-M_o_n_c_H-
@-M_o_n_c_H- Жыл бұрын
Это как?😮
@jamesmoon3400
@jamesmoon3400 9 ай бұрын
Id?
@Nono-mm6zs
@Nono-mm6zs Жыл бұрын
Are pioneer actually trying to have DJs out of a job or what. I don’t get why you Would even introduce this atall. The arts dead
@TheRealCalijokes01
@TheRealCalijokes01 Жыл бұрын
lol 😂 I’m new but sounds like you don’t believe in your talent
@Nono-mm6zs
@Nono-mm6zs Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealCalijokes01 no mate I believe in my talent and would like to keep DJing a way of talent rather then everything becoming automated like on this deck. Total crap this 💩
@TheRealCalijokes01
@TheRealCalijokes01 Жыл бұрын
@@Nono-mm6zs you know the future is always coming you know you have to adapt cmon
@TheRealCalijokes01
@TheRealCalijokes01 Жыл бұрын
@@Nono-mm6zs don’t let me get better then you lol jk
@TheRealCalijokes01
@TheRealCalijokes01 Жыл бұрын
@@Nono-mm6zs I’m also a beat maker so I heard this will be a breeze for me anyway
@DiscoStickDave
@DiscoStickDave Жыл бұрын
All of the people moaning about the art form being lost, and DJs now aren't as good as back in my day blah blah blah. Advancing technology has been consistently changing every vocation for 000s of years and will continue to do so. The technology is giving you tools, embrace the change or eventually get left behind. I run a Bar/Club, book the DJs and also DJ myself. I couldn't give a flying fuck if a DJ uses sync or any other digital tool... I care if my customers are happy, drinking and having a good time. That's all that matters to me.
@Purple_hat1
@Purple_hat1 2 ай бұрын
It fucked up my set I did by raising the bpm on a song too high. It's not all it's cracked out to be. I'd say it's better not to use it.
@LaxGoalieMan123
@LaxGoalieMan123 Жыл бұрын
I can see this being controversial.
@djjuniorsenna
@djjuniorsenna 6 ай бұрын
Não entendi nada
@liquid79
@liquid79 9 ай бұрын
This is for posers.
@lucasdestefano8009
@lucasdestefano8009 Ай бұрын
Grow up
@jakesmith4190
@jakesmith4190 Жыл бұрын
@mylogregory
@grifindor4203
@grifindor4203 2 ай бұрын
Pitch look 😅
@gokudecimomeridio
@gokudecimomeridio 26 күн бұрын
Pensar que la base de la justicia occidental es el derecho romano ,la presunción de inocencia,hoy ha sidp despedazado es pilar y la maldad acampa.
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