Pioneer DJ PLX-CRSS12 Review: the DJ Turntable, Redefined? | Beatsource Tech

[@djkodis]

I guess $1400 for a turntable that DOES play records is better than $3000 for a CD player that doesn’t play CDs 😂😂

[@MzwakheNgqo]

Now that you have said that. I feel the pricing is somehow justified.

[@DJeMo]

Indeed they removed the most expensive part from the CDJs and added a grand lol

[@rashodbacon]

Well said!

[@DJGeorgeDisco]

Even cheaper when you consider you only need 1 turntable with instant doubles

[@Kypski]

haha

[@ItsWesSmithYo]

If Pioneer gets 12” motorized platters back in clubs they win, period 😎🖤🍭 As a huge fan of the enjoyment of traditional mixing…analog and digital…just wow, crazy they put this amount of effort in…thanks for the deep dive boss 🙌

[@ItsWesSmithYo]

@@djstuc I left that lollipop emoji for you my friend. Big Hugs 🤗

[@DJeMo]

There is no competition in art that's what is wrong with yall, express yourself with no competitive, shit works out better in the end.... Love you

[@JL-bu8bz]

Both competitions are good for us, for industries (more jobs) and for the audience. Good New machines always better and good New djs always better too

[@buuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

Keep dreaming 😂

[@mdzic7628]

It’ll never happen.

[@jandekok9349]

And a tip for Pioneer, bring out 2 models, the normal layout model, and a battle layout. because i think the normal layout will be far selling much more ,then the battle layout what is coming now.

[@tombyrnerocks]

Yet another review absoslutely smashed to bits Mojaxx 🙌🏻

[@champain7357]

Vinyl only guy here. Even I think this is quite interesting device itself (although it is just not for me) and it is really good to see this kind of device developed and released in 2023 where vinyl is almost "retro". I hope it will help to attract some attention of Post 2000 kids playing on all-in-one contollers to vinyl (real or DVS whatever). But what I found from technical point of view here: Mojaxx says about no preamp inside - this is for best sound quality, wires from cartridge directly to RCAs and into your mixer. But at the same time later when describing how internal DVS mode works it is clear that DVS signal is sent via those same Phono wires. So this means there is electrical connection inside the deck to these lines from DVS (controller IC block). And that might affect real vinyl playback with added noise.

[@johnnyvergona]

"Almost" retro? I'm pretty sure vinyl has been "retro" for a good while now. But I get what you're saying and good point about the possibility of sound degradation. That never occurred to me. But hopefully, the engineers at pioneer have designed these in a way that it has zero effect on sound quality when not engaged.

[@OLSKOOLOUTCAST]

Mostly vinyl guy here - this device looks great and I'd like to play on this way more than a cdj, however I don't see why the pitch control couldn't have been located in the front somewhere to the left or right of the device so pitch riding could be achieved without one having to reach over the device all night.

[@alexwalsh6179]

It's how he has set them up,just turn them round lol

[@OLSKOOLOUTCAST]

@@alexwalsh6179 that's what I thought but I see the display would b side ways if u turn them around, also would all the writing on it too

[@robertschnobert9090]

Why do you call them vinyl? They're called records. I know some kids call them vinyl but if you actually know your stuff you should know the media haha 🌈 ​@@OLSKOOLOUTCAST

[@thedjnamedves]

Price wise this makes the most sense for people who don't have turntables yet and want that Phase DJ/Twelves experience. Most in-depth review on the unit this far

[@MilanFourTimesEight]

Price wise it makes more sense to buy Phase and Reloops 8000

[@thedjnamedves]

@@MilanFourTimesEight but you have a unit (Phase DJ) which will need replacing every XX years because of the internal battery. Portability wise Phase DJ beats the CRSS12

[@DrudgeAudio]

This is fantastic. Cost is crazy but as you said - there’s no real competition without amalgamating a couple different products, which most of the people who want those features will probably end up doing anyway. Not sure if they will be a big seller to anyone who isn’t a rental company or serious venue, but a lot of pioneer DJ gear seems to be going that way, mainly almost solely due to the price! Great bit of kit, glad they’ve done it. But excited to see the future competition!

[@1zulul4]

I like your honesty in all your reviews. Never one to sugarcoat the impact to the wallet. Giving a real world cost comparison with other platforms is a highlight

[@DOPEZ1200]

HERE WE GO YALL

[@BennyGogz]

Defo a market for a 45 adapter clamp - great shout on that 👊🏻✊🏻

[@JVB_DJ]

Best review I'm going to read about this. The final points are so honest and spot on. Now my say: If you already have any of the DVS solutions or another turntables you don't need this unless you are bored and want to try the new toy till you get bored again, which is sadly what a lot of people are about but if you want to introduce yourself in the turntable world coming from other ways of djing, it's maybe better to buy this whole pack and forget about pairing different brand devices to get the same results.

[@Prod.beenie]

If these came out 6 months earlier this might have been an option for me before adopting to the Phase family, still a dope product!

[@ItsWesSmithYo]

Ditto…well I already had 1200’s so probably not yet but I’m pretty psyched we may actually see the form factor back in the club / bar one day…and that when my 1200’s finally croak there’s a modern path…boom dah

[@foodstampz]

Same. Pretty wild

[@D-One]

Personally I still prefer Phase, carrying is easy while transporting TT's around is nightmare.

[@DJGeorgeDisco]

this product just came to market 1 year too late in my opinion. Should have been priced around $1000 max, but hey it is Pioneer....

[@djxsquizit]

Phase is cool but recharging them all the time is a buzz kill.

[@abumc5104]

Imagine you are a Dj. You will also be booked or have your own party series. What is the most important thing for the guests ? Good music isn't it ? So why keep stepping into the 'money trap', and buy the latest equipment ? If you already got equipment, in this or a similar form. Doesn't it make more sense to discover good new music, buy it and then play it to the guests ? Just my opinion. Sorry, but this isn't a SL1210 MKII 'tank-quality' TECHNICS turntable. Better invest in top music from artists, musicians, producers, remixer, re-editer..., instead of paying X-hundreds & thousands for the latest tech, that even hasn't got the best build quality. As always, again the best overview by Mojaxx about the latest dj tech. Even Pioneer is getting better with their dj tech, still they don't last long. It's overpriced i'd say. In this case, less is more.

[@nevedofficial466]

I'm not sure what your point is besides saying its not as good as a 1210, which is valid, but the people that are gonna be buying these are probably as serious as you could ever get with this artform, and probably already invested heavily into procuring music. As fore me, i want these to be my gigging decks, for djing for artists as well as playing regular vinyl sets, and essentially this is a rane twelve that's an actual turntable as well and thus way more worth it to me... Just my opinion.

[@IamMarkSmith]

This product is a pleasant surprise. With all of the features built into this I feel the price is justified. Thank you for the thorough review, Mojaxx. You really covered all the important details.

[@djfabiomk2]

Excellent Review, congrats dj Mojaxx

[@DJStanSteel]

Great review as always. I love these and maybe next year will just plunge into getting 2 for home. They sure are sexy and the idea to be able to only have these instead of all the other kits excites me. To be able to play vinyl and use these with digital software is def the ways to go. They look fab!

[@NunyaBusinessEither]

I'm already buying a set. But, I'm also going to keep my 1200 MK2's.

[@8tungBaby]

I love the Idea they had ! And if I where to buy my first pair of turntables I would love these. But like most Vinyl /DVS Djs I already own a pair of Technics 1200 Mk II (which are proven to be very reliable and easy to service). with my DDj SP1 and Phase (and a Denon DJ DS1 for non Serato mixers) I can play in any Club (that has 2 Turntables and a Mixer) without bringing a ton of equipment. For me the CRSS12 doesn´t offer enough to pay 2800 $ and I don´t understand why they didn´t implement CDJ style MP3 direct import and HID mode via USB. That would´ve made the CRSS 12 something every DJ can work with. I think that would ´ve been very interesting for Club owners. I think like this and at that price point they´re only interesting for Starter Vinyl / DVS DJs that are looking for a new pair of Turntables or extreme gear junkies. or people which don´t have to care for money. But again what a great Idea !

[@29dj17]

Haven’t even watched the video yet and I’m excited. Hope it’s not disappointing lol. Not disappointed at all. Been waiting for new ttbs from pioneer since I’ve had my 1000s since 2015. Price wise, everything is expensive now. This is basically a combination of ttbs, cdjs and controllers all for that price. Will I get it? fudge yes. Also money is not a problem for Mo, he’s just being humble. He’s rich, ignore him 😂. Thanks for the detailed video sir, this really made my morning.

[@trevor_mounts_music]

I'll just buy phase - hell of a lot cheaper and I can take it with me to gigs and use them with any set of decks 🤷‍♂

[@scratchgonzo]

I'm one of the guys who pinches the spindle to mix, I'd love to see one of these hybrid turntables come out where you can still touch the spindle. Looks like a great unit but I'm sure like every other turntable ever the mk2 will be even better

[@johnkiz9310]

If you're Fred Flintstone, the 1200 is still king!

[@stirlingpickett5253]

I'm a spindle pincher too and proud of it

[@stirlingpickett5253]

I love my three sets of Technic 1200 turntables

[@stirlingpickett5253]

I love my three sets of Technic 1200 turntables

[@stirlingpickett5253]

I love my three sets of Technic 1200 turntables

[@Doad1077]

I have a pair of PLX1000 & DDJ RZ as my main home set up and a hardly used DJM 900NXS2 In its box. I am definitely thinking of getting a pair of these breaking out the 900NXS2 as my home set up and bumping the RZ and PLX 1000’s.

[@-AC-]

I’m very impressed, why wasn’t this available years ago???

[@MilanFourTimesEight]

it was in the form of Reloop 8000 bundled with Phase

[@EnochGitongaKimathi]

This was my dream a decade ago. Actually I was hoping the USB was able to carry both audio and control data so you could replace the RCA and do away with them completely, for a neater setup have the mixer act like a USB hub and plug the decks to it via USB so that there is only 1 USB cable going to the computer: 3 modes (RCA Only, RCA+USB, USB Only).

[@jsobrino]

you can do that with Phase and any mixer with a USB hub on it, but then you also need the phase controller on your table in addition to the rest of your setup

[@thelabby9998]

The issue with sending everything over usb will be regular vinyls... How do you cut these with the mixer? Digitally? You will need a dedicated mixer or audio interface for audio output so again cables... OTOH if you are going to send "whatever" over usb connection HID is better than audio or better said you can send encoder position from the spindle into usb for later decoding into the app (think in how a regular mouse work) but then you are ditching all the internal power from the turntable and putting it into the dj app which needs to make an unnecessary conversion (digital encoder into playhead control of audio timecode into decoding (audio timecode requires decoding) to manage... playhead? Just convert digital encoder data into playhead movement and avoid any other conversion and you know what? That's what Twelve does... but as I commented in earlier post Mojaxx find it less natural than the audio timecode into app (decoding) approach but that isn't related to HID directly but how dj apps developers coded HID vs Audio timecode and resolution in both cases. Audio timecode (and specially NoiseMap) have a high resolution against digital encoders (Phase is an exception because is earth field magnet one like a compass) making the "feel" of HID solutions worst than audio timecoded based ones. So not a easy problem to solve (sadly)...

[@jsobrino]

@@thelabby9998 the digital signal thru usb and the regular vinyl thru rca would be ideal imo

[@EnochGitongaKimathi]

@@thelabby9998 There is nothing overly complicated in implemtning a device like the PLX Crss12 to have 3 modes: 1.Digital Only, 2.Hybrid and 3.Analog Only. With Digital Only the USB protocol can be used to send timecode to the DVS. Analog Data is easily converted to Digital Data. This conversion usually happens on the Mixer or a separate Audio Interface. However, there is no reason why the conversion can not be done on the turntable. The Digital Mixer can have a USB-C hub where you plug in the turntables and are able to mix or convert, digital and analog data (if playing an actual vinyl through an analog connection like RCA). Since we have the USB-C port and the RCA ports available on the Turntable, there is absolutely no reason it can't be done. We just need a digital mixer with a USB hub that can accept USB-C alongside the traditional analog connections.

[@beatzandwheels]

@@EnochGitongaKimathi You should develop one then mate...^^ "digital AND analog data". lol. You still need RCAs to get the analog "data" - its an analog audio signal bruv... to the mixer. Youve written so much and explained so little... ppl like you are really not helping anybody.

[@simon_100]

Based on this review, the best I've seen in recent years. playing vinyl with bass bin feedback in line with the Technics Mk2 is a win, win, win.

[@JL-bu8bz]

Are you shure or are you is just a technics lover?

[@djxsquizit]

​@@JL-bu8bzMust likely a Technics ass kisser 😂

[@MrliquidDj]

I like your honesty! Instead others where just because came out and it was sent out for review regardless if it is trash or not they speak beautifully about the equipment! Thts why I love this guy! Good example the Opus! When It came out he was really straight fwd with his points n opinions! Thts when He earned my respect and attention! Meanwhile others.... speaking love things! A good example is: they said thar love the position of the pads on previous releases on the equipment! I love how they forget what they said long time ago... then the new equioment was release and now they love the new pads position because the other was in the way and the new one has a better layout!!! Sooo... no matter what... in future releases "the others" would love it regardless in favor to manufactures giving them oppprtunity to review! This guy here! Does bot F care! If you send him something!!!! He will not sugar your ears just because thata what manufactures want to hear! Thnks for your reviews! You are my only guy to go to for dj reviews!

[@delicious_dj]

Pioneer always have had a high price point. But I'm not convinced that it should replace my RP8000mk2. CRSS12 has more going for it, but how much of that is really worth the upgrade. That is the question you have to ask yourself.

[@delicious_dj]

@usoygur you can only buy mk2 the mk1 is not in Production anymore

[@alfonsolizarazo9806]

RP7000mk2 owner and not convinced either. I do play house and DVS classic style, I’m happy with my gear, it works for me. But I like the fact that this will get more people and artists into vinyl…maybe?

[@paddynliamo]

One thing this doesn't have over technics is how repairable they'll be

[@EMBEEclassic]

Did they fix the tonearm bearing wobble issues all the Super OEM turntables have? There is a small play if you pull/push on the tonearm.

[@duczmal]

Best review, thnaks!

[@DanielleKingdjdinosaur]

glad you mentioned the Rane 12 mk 2s which have a time code signal but as you say these also have a tonearm and as i have a lot of vinyl these would be my ultimate deck

[@djlazyboy23]

Pioneer for the win again! Nice work fellas! You too Buck!

[@suparickyprime]

Thank you ! just super helped my choice .....keeping it 12'' Style and Tone arm Available ..happy pioneer pro dj here ! Keep it funky fresh for the future !

[@salvaavlas5757]

Still rocking Numark TTX Analog and DVS but this is interesting thxs

[@XX-121]

i would look at some reloop rp-8000mk2 before this if you're not gonna get tech's. the .02% on the 8000's vs.1% pitch resolution on ttx is really nice and gets a lot closer to technics level of beat matching. (i use to own ttx's) because with this thing for one i wouldn't want to have to deal with battle style layout and also no vinyl dj is gonna want to have to deal with that clamp thing every time you switch records. that would get old real fast. also i'm taking it they have corrected the cogging issue that the plx-1000's have that makes them bad for mixing?

[@salvaavlas5757]

@@XX-121 I never needed in my life a 0,02% pitch precision ! At the contrary, the 50% and the key lock is useful !

[@XX-121]

@@salvaavlas5757 you play records at 50% pitch? i take it you don't play out at clubs

[@djammo8621]

Another great and detailed review. Have been watching a lot of yours recently. I'm sure people would be interested in seeing a 'behind the scenes' video where you show all the kit you use to film and produce your videos with how you normally test and what your studio set up is. Respect

[@thajasondub]

awesome review!!!

[@DjShaggySrilanka]

Looks amazing . I wish Ill own a pair of this soon❤🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@DJPablotv]

I'm good I'll stick to my PHASE and my regular turntables. Too Expensive for real.

[@ceeej1290]

Great review 🙌🙌🙌

[@djbassdex585]

Rane Twelve mk2 can play timecod inside deck - from RCA Line signal. Not only HUD mode.

[@ItsDJOBie]

Best new piece of hardware since phase

[@GhxstLight]

The rane 12 mk2 future proofed itself though with the simple fact that it has dvs time code built into the deck… essentially making it the same… the mk1s don’t have this feature but the mk2 definitely does… the only plus one id see this being for existing rane 12mk2 users would be the option to play your favorite vinyl on the same deck. As a 12mk2 user this doesn’t make me go omg I gotta get it.. fun though

[@sgtcreasegrease]

well some people like what the rane twelve does but have turntables already and don't want to essentially buy a second set of turntables that aren't actually turntables. This is way better, and honestly I thought of this idea a few years ago. Glad to see someone actually made a regular turntable with it in there. Didn't think it would've been Pioneer though, that shocked me.

[@thelabby9998]

@@djstuc Just add a tonearm like modders did for the One.

[@hot4futureyears2come]

This is so cool. Great work Pioneer. Also thanks mojaxx. Rane 12 mk2 on DVS is how I use mine.

[@wikuscombrinck512]

Really awesome! I really want to have a pair!

[@GODInTheWax444]

If I could afford it I would buy these in a heartbeat. They look amazing and they are definitely the "top tier" turntable when they hit the shelves. I wish Pioneer had brought them in at $1k though. When you look at the price of a CDJ-3000 though, these are a decent deal for what you get. I'll win the lottery and one of the first things on my list to get will be these bad boys! LOL! Great review Mojaxx!

[@HarryLoveTV]

Well well well 🤑 I do think the clamp is a very smart addition but the oversight in not including a 45 adapter is a surprising one for a product that has considered so many aspects. I certainly imagine 3rd parties will quickly fill that gap

[@british31]

As an MKII 1200 owner, the little bit about Phase at the end has me looking it up! I got the wheels, time to upgrade!

[@robertfleischmann4119]

Phase is great! I've been spinning vinyl since the 90's and Phase WAS the upgrade that we've been looking for! You'll be impressed.

[@deejayduy]

Those are dope.. I heard about this 2 years ago when I got the Rane Twelves MKII.. I love the Twelves and they work great!.. I would get the Pioneer but its hella pricey.. i still play vinyl and my 1200mk2 is perfect but this combo turntable/DVS/HID is awesome and super convenient.. But to be honest.. the Twelves still works great since i rarely play vinyl on my gigs.. Maybe wait for the Mk2?

[@djrohan_presents]

I love the tech innovation aspect of these decks and would love to own them ….but…… I’m struggling to see what problem they solve and who they are targeted at ( other than those with money to burn and GAS). As you pointed out there are cheaper packages that offer 95% of this functionality and I don’t think the new features push the creativity envelope that much. Does the pure vinyl performance stack up to the best of the rest? Thanks for your great reviews as always.

[@BKJ-88]

A non battle style layout would get me interested.

[@djskampy]

with your price comparison: In EU, Reloop RP8000 mk2's are about 600 € each, and Phase Essential is about 330 €, so for just over 1500€, you're set.

[@johnkiz9310]

The RP 8000 mk2 is NOT $900 and they never were. They go for $800 and I got mine for $700 each on sale. So I got them BOTH for the price of one of these. Add the Phase (also on sale) and I spent a total $1,750.... Besides the clamp, they offer nothing more and the Reloop is more versatile having a break and torque that's more customizable, bigger and more pads, pitch bend, reverse, a scroll knob, the actual pitch percentage (not range) so you can dial it in, and of course, patter play!!! The "pitch play" on this is crap compared to how reloop does platter play. You can even hook up a midi keyboard to control it. Reloop 8000 mk2 is still king of the hanpin IMHO. This thing is definitely nice, but severely overpriced.

[@MilanFourTimesEight]

With the Reloops you can actually du a fineadjustment to Torque and Brake unlike with the brake switch on the Pioneers which also makes it look like a cheap mod

[@bartykutz]

id love to see bars scoop these up as standard gear

[@metiendopua]

Always the Bests Reviews!

[@thisistalay]

1200 all the way!

[@therealsofiene]

this is a rane twelve mk2 that that can play real vynil and that costs twice the price. thank you pioneer dj

[@jeffmireillemckay1077]

Waiting for my first one to arrive. Plan on using with the xz controller

[@fatahderradj]

Hello ! In France we've got 2 Reloop RP 8000 MKII for 1258 € (629 € for one) and Phase for 334 € so if u take 2 reloop + phase it cost you 193€ more than one of PLX-XRSS12 (1399€) Made your choice fox ^^

[@alexv4907]

Don't the Rane TWELVE Mk2s also output DVS signal via RCA?

[@meganoid_9001]

Hello, Pioneer said this turntable has technically improved over plx 1000. However, I cannot see the point as long as the underlying engine is the USUAL Hanpin! For instance, let's take a look at WOW & Flutter: Plx 1000 was initially declared to exhibit a figure of 0.1%, later amended to 0.01%, while Pioneer DJ PLX-CRSS12 is claimed to display 0.15%. Hence, by just looking at the announced figures, the new CRSS12 performs WORSE THAT the old PLX1000. Not to mention that SL 1200 spécifications indicate 0.025%. What can you say about that? FYI, my old SL 1200 MK2 scores 0.3%, while my new Plx 1000 shows 0.6% on average.

[@GaiusIncognitus]

Wow. Before i watched this review, I said id rather do rp 8000 and phase (which im literally doing already). Mojaxx genuinely made me respect this machine more than i expected.

[@Naotaku]

This is excellent. Sending DVS audio signals is such an obvious feature, I wonder why nobody’s done it before. It can be easily done with non-spinning jog wheels as well, but these are great turntables. /need 😇

[@thelabby9998]

Denon did it with Hybrid mode and also Phase of course...

[@Naotaku]

@@thelabby9998 Phase is native Serato signal? I didn't know that.

[@aurasystems]

All of the Technics TT’s prior to the MK7’s are still going strong, even down to basic 1200 MKII’s.

[@ingenfestbrems]

Plx 1000 yeah. Great deck. I swapped it in for a 1988 technics 1210mk2, just because,, it’s the original.. but i miss the plx1000 it just had the right looks

[@sadboolean8605]

really dope but was really hoping these would be standalone with pro dj link to use on standalone club set up without laptop..wishful thinking!

[@gtubgle]

Pioneer just took over all levels of DJ hardware

[@alexg8957]

Thanks to Denon.

[@DJeMo]

There will never be anything like technics turntables, it's been like that since they popped and it ain't ever gonna change...

[@patricevonparis]

nice one brada Mojaxx excited for zis one

[@Swiftstyle]

Great review Mojax. Do we know if they have reused the PLX motor for this unit? I’m concerned with the torque compensation problems we experienced when applying pressure at lower pitches.

[@Mojaxx]

They've definitely put work into the performance at the lower end of that 50% range. They heard ya.

[@foodstampz]

Now we need a list of great DJ's that will actually use these features 👌

[@viderethevaccinatorfromhol7536]

Sorry, I am retired.

[@weissomar]

We need a usb option with a display screen.

[@MichaelRoehr]

Pretty impressive, full stop. Pricey - but expected with Pioneer. I'd love to play around with a set of these, but with someone else's money. *edit* and wow the flexibility of the setup is COOL

[@SteveMaggioncalda]

another brilliant review. thank you, brother

[@djlazyboy23]

OMG… Mojax… I heard you say “Hella” 😂 incredible

[@Mojaxx]

I’m retro like that 😂

[@lrazo5668]

All I need now is a built tough stand-alone mixer with serato and rekordbox built in.

[@mikeyriv7564]

These things are awesome! I love mine

[@sacsmitty]

Interesting... The digital setup reminds me a bit of Phase. Wonder if they'll encouter any kind of patient infringement. I far prefer this setup because I assume the mag clamp doesn't have to be charged. Big advantage IMHO.

[@thelabby9998]

The clamp is just a clamp. Nothing related to Phase so no patent infringement neither.

[@MilanFourTimesEight]

So what actually is responsible for controlling the internal DVS timecode if it aint the Magvel Clamp?

[@DT1One]

Excellent review. This is a no go for me because of the layout. If they decide to sell a model with a traditional layout with pitch control on right hand side and everything readable horizontally, I would consider. They sell 2 models of the v10 mixer; LF and the traditional x fader so why not sell 2 models of the turntable as well? Thats really the only reason I’m holding off on purchasing.

[@edvardthomson7264]

Good review all in all... again :) Thanks

[@huwwackman]

Amazing decks. Great value for all the tech. Awesome and great review M!

[@djjoeykmusic]

Awesome video Thank you

[@DJBennyMoney]

Now we know probably why pioneer bought serato, they didn’t want to pay the premium for serato capability so they probably said screw it we will just buy the company, lol.

[@D-One]

Personally at this point I'd just love a Phase dedicated turntable without a tonearm or any sort of analog IO, which should lower the cost quite a bit, perhaps a smaller than 12" and lighter since skipping and isolation is not an issue to make it easier to transport. It's crazy how all this innovation should have happened many years ago, TT manufactures got lazy and lost a tons of users, if it did perhaps tons of DJ's wouldn't have switched to CDJ's or AIO controllers, still it's great to see it finally happening.

[@dj-MadaM]

I wish that too, but noone interested to build one...

[@thelabby9998]

Denon 3700 with hybrid mode. These are cheap nowadays.

[@thelabby9998]

@@dj-MadaM There are people but it doesn't worth the effort and the resultant "product" isn't affordable for mass production (or doing a living).

[@jonconnor9601]

Mental I had this idea over ten years ago, I went to both Pioneer and various other companies with my designs, even made a seminar at BPM shows, and was basically laughed at, when I wanted a product that could play both my vinyl and digital in one unit with the added extra of enabled own brand design on control disc, goddam should have put a patent on it 😅 Finally, it's here in early form looking forward to testing this

[@JayCeaupes]

that gabriels record. i see you mojaxx

[@saul_boogie]

Its a clear shot across the bow for any other manufacture that makes hardware for serato, to show their hand. Pioneer has made a premium and expensive product and IMO wants to see if anybody is gonna invest big in the r&d, design, manufacture and marketing of a competing product that uses their newly acquired serato, that they (inmusic, reloop, etc) would have pay licensing for and hope that the product the came up with would stick around 10 plus years, like the plx 1000 has and the plx crss12 probably will do, thats a hell of a move pioneer!

[@blind2heart]

this is sooo sick!

[@DJFunkyNutti]

Dope. Things moving so fast. Without money you will be left behind.

[@rafcar693]

Techno DJ here. Been using battle style for over 20 years.

[@djlokey2820]

My next investment!!!

[@abrahamrios6503]

This is great, I would have a hard time using it. I don't set up my turntables battel style. I use them the way intended. I am not a rough houser (beat juggler), or whatever they are calling it these days. For them, it may be a game changer. I am a blender that uses an analog rotary mixer. The layout doesn't work for me. Really great concept, though. Something I wish the Rane 12 mk2 could do. For now, until I can start my rebuild of Techincs 1200 mk 2, I will stick to my Numark TTX1. They have been a work horse for me for over a decade now!!!! Again, sir, you're the man!!!!! Thanks for keeping us dj informed!!!!!! Loving my Reloop Flux!!!!! I have it going through my Mastersounds Raduis 4V.

[@Mojaxx]

The layout is the same, it’s only the markings that are rotated! I bet if you used one (non battle style) you’d be absolutely fine on it.

[@ItsWesSmithYo]

Mojaxx was def one of those kids that just had to take the screws off…😂

[@kevinc3411]

is Traktor DVS support left behind again :(

[@Naotaku]

As a DnB and Techno mix DJ, I don’t care about the markings being sideways. I really like this product.

[@GPow69]

Exactly my feelings lol, after decades of scratch DJs being forced to use sideways labels, we can let em have it this time 😂😂

[@Naotaku]

@@GPow69 In theory, the screen orientation should be possible to flip with a software update. But honestly, not a big deal.

[@play_up]

lets see how your back feels after hours reaching over to the back to set pitch every time your'e mixing a track...

[@Naotaku]

@@play_up no, you misunderstood. I'd have them set up for mixing, with the pitch control on the right side as normal. So the labels will be sideways, which makes zero difference to me. I was forced to mix on a scratch setup a few times and that does suck indeed.

[@ianvjones]

So dope!

[@raze94]

Very thorough review. Thank you

[@mollymurphy999]

Dvs saved my hobby.

[@CJScratch]

I think the price tag will be its biggest hurdle for them becoming the standard for every dj .. ideas like this have happened in the past with hybrid tables & cdj's all in one deck but unfortunately it becomes to much of a gimmick and they kill the model after a short while ..i fear these will fall into that same category.

[@newnewworldsymphony]

Yea but I feel like they just reinvented the Grand Masters. They are an excellent design company but also heavy on business. There was an s9, and their also is an s7. There’s a ddjsx and a ddjsz. There’s and plx 1000 and a ….

[@beatzandwheels]

@@newnewworldsymphony theres also flowers and theres also pigs. Some fly and some swim. The sky is blue and bubalidu.

[@Nosh_Feratu]

wonder if they could work it so you can link the DVS element to a standalone CDJ3000 without a laptop? So, you select your tracks on the CDJ, hot cues, reverse etc but just use the CRSS12 platter in DVS mode to jog thru the track, maybe adjust the pitch also? So youve got the CDJ search and hotcue functionality and actual vinyl control via the CRSS12. . . .hmmm Surely thats possible?

[@thelabby9998]

It will require CDJ3000 audio input, timecode control support (firmware update) or almost Pioneer link (and again enabling that control in update firmware plus ethernet port on this turntable). Doable? Yes. Possible with actual products? Not. Doable with extra product? Yes. You just need an audio to Pioneer link box, plug these with ethernet and a firmware update for the CDJ3000. Also Pioneer could release an standalone box with the CDJ3000 cpu and screen to improve actual setup without computer... but it's more probably they release that inside a mixer than standalone.

[@Nosh_Feratu]

@@thelabby9998 excellent explanation, thanks a lot appreciate that! Yeah, sounds like they'd definitely try and monetise it in some way, its their prerogative I guess, they're a business after all...be nice if they did it as an update however, CDJ3000s and CRSS12s arent cheap so you've already invested a fair amount at that point. Will wait and see I guess, be great if it arrives at some point.

[@thelabby9998]

@@Nosh_Feratu It's a pleasure help a Pirate get married with Elaine. ;)

[@Nosh_Feratu]

@@thelabby9998 MIGHTY pirate...cough cough ;-)

[@fredbissnette3104]

You gonna review the gr2 1200?