Pioneer TS-M650PRO 6.3/4 VS DS18 PRO-GM6B 6.5 midbass speakers test

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[@itsdeshon1527]

I kid you not, I just ordered the ds18's and canceled my order when I saw this. Thanks fam. Nothing wrong with ds18 at all but you can't beat the clarity on the pioneer. You just earned yourself a Subscriber for this one fam

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Hey bro welcome to real life you gotta watch my other videos and Ull be amazed with different brands I tested

[@ChadsLoud]

Your channel is seriously underrated and you deserve way more viewers and subscribers share these vids to reddit or something these videos are fantastic man

[@rollindeep786]

Dude, I like your idea, the way you dissect each speaker for a wide range of audience. The theory of best bang for low bucks is awesome and not enuf ppl doing this even though I know a lot of people don't want to spend massive amounts but feel they've invested in something worthwhile on a budget.. Respect..

[@Schwiebert_Adventures]

This video was so helpful, thank you! I love the format of the two button comparisons. I just ordered a pair of the Pioneers to go with my vintage USD waveguides in my ‘22 Bronco.

[@VegasElement]

Man Mike, you test EVERYTHING!! Thank You!!! The DS18 and the Pioneer have built in bullet tweeters.

[@Theblasterassasin]

it’s a very interesting video! thanks a lot, it helped me to decide which i’m going to buy. Greetings from Argentina

[@albertocardenas2323]

i love your channel and content bro i have learned so much from you, keep it up man!

[@Angel_Ventura915]

I have the Pioneer Pro 6.5 on the front doors and the 8" on the rear doors in a 2002 Yukon. It sounds great. I just installed 2 6.5in Pioneer Pro in the front and I ordered 2 of the DS18 6.5 for the rear doors in a 4 door 2012 GMC Canyon. The ds18s come in today. I'm excited to hear them perform together. Thanks for this video.

[@THESUBZILLA]

!LIKE! Test Arnold’s or Sylvester’s also! Also 8”!! Lol thanks for this we need more tests, because there’s so many options. I love these lower priced products compared to the ones I can’t afford lol

[@oscarcrx-9099]

DJ DINO couldn’t agree more

[@LIFEINSPEED]

if you hit 15 likes ill do it lol

[@Luminous.Dynamics]

Deaf Bonce Arnold or Sylvelsters VS Pioneer TSM650

[@Luminous.Dynamics]

@@LIFEINSPEED He hit 16 lol

[@THESUBZILLA]

@@LIFEINSPEED woohoo

[@danielgrace7408]

You have to do midbass vs midbass not midbass vs mid-range. By the way mid-range only work on higher frequencies close to tweeter range because of less coil travel.Mid-range speaker are for higher voice sounds vs midbass for certain beats, guitar notes and deeper pronounced voice. I thank you for this demo on this great equipment.

[@itsmiguell]

Nice review! Was interested in the new DS18 that is about to drop next week, but just couldn't wait and got SKAR Audio FSX65-4, very happy with my SKAR speakers.

[@Chasingspeed636]

I switched from the skar fsx65 to the DS18 GM8B. DS18 are WAAAAAYY better than the skar

[@chadmanning9967]

Great test considering the atmosphere and equipment, love it

[@miguelangelaviles4886]

LOVE YOUR CHANNEL BRO, KEEP IT UP N GOOD LUCK🙏🏼

[@MrMr123]

👌🏼💯 Thanks for the test Can you do a focal and audio dynamics test.... 🤔

[@nzjemountfort]

Hook up a small LED to the curcuit above the speaker so it turns on when the button for each speaker is being pressed. You know you want to LOL

[@LIFEINSPEED]

That's great idea

[@jeantsaiaviation]

Are you have something called video editing.

[@jeffwhite8017]

Being that im a pioneer in this field, you now know what i choose.

[@vanbossedonovan2073]

I play full ds18 sound. 2×6,5 exl&4×8" exl, 12" sub(diamond), 2000 watt mono exl & mid amp 1900.4 watt exl, 3 way crossover, &2×3" super tweeters

[@scottiffanimccord1509]

Vary good job Mike!

[@GrimmReapa]

DS has a cup sound vs Pioneer which sound like the sound is being pushed through my air pods pro. Sticking with my pioneer been beating on them for 4 years still going thanks to this very video made me buy them.

[@wellthatsretarded2591]

What would be the full setup for the sound test at 10:25? I have studio monitors and the quality was as you stated. Thanks lol

[@jasonhospedales3893]

Bro great video but you need to test ORION HCCA NHP, B&C, EIGHTEEN SOUND ALSO

[@HG-NLINE]

i have the DS 18 pro's in my car on half of the rated rms sound great i definitely recommend on full power

[@adalbertovilla7217]

Would you recommend them? Thinking of putting some in my truck. And do they still sound good at full volume.

[@WAT3VATVUSA]

DS18 PRO-X6.4BM

[@RobHTech]

I listen to a little bit of this vid every morning during my hurry up and eat breakfast before work episodes. The Pioneer is just better designed and made. Paper cone woofers almost always outperform other materials. Paper pulp is light weight, moves fast, stops fast, which makes damping for the amp easier. The Phase plug is likely actually working, while DS phase plug is probably just something they stuck on it to help sell it. --That Pioneer Pro audio 12" sub they make to go with the midranges is crazy too. The bass goes so low, so much bass, so clear and clean.

[@impendingdoom2806]

Pioneer has decades of experience and expertise in audio..Period

[@tatsuo91]

Solid brand pioneer, why does it get understimated, also cheap

[@jrockaz548]

Pioneer is good ds18 is better and not much difference in price

[@abdon_8991]

@@jrockaz548 I disagree pioneer gives a better overall sound quality. Its also likes high volume with the least amount of destoration

[@cuongtran-ty1te]

Do a review on the Rockville Mid-Range rxm64 please

[@gabexvideos7363]

Si estos parlantes (serie pro) son para competencia, cual serie de Pioneer esta enfocada en la calidad de sonido? la serie A?

[@JerzyBoy973]

Are you guys running these on FP or HP???? Please advise I just bought the Pioneers.

[@drewdown_p338]

Could you do a demo of the McLaren MLM860 6.5s with the MLM Super Tweeters

[@dirkfunk4361]

Hey man, I ordered these Pioneer speakers now I’m worried I made the wrong choice. They’ll be going in the front doors of an ‘05 CR-V with a Pioneer Avh-2330nex head unit. Do you think 1) they will fit (ok with doing some modifications) and 2) that head unit will give them anywhere near enough power? Thanks for the video

[@THESUBZILLA]

Ok I think ima get the pioneers lol I like the price big time and uuuhg sounds good too I like it!

[@mikeh9477]

I really enjoy this channel please text more brands like jl audio morel kicker

[@magno408_1]

I like the sound of pioneer. What a good tweeter ahd crossover to match?

[@jebus3772]

ds18 tweeter ive heard are really good

[@jrockaz548]

I'm going to do the ds18 6.5 mids I already have 2 10" subs n 2 of those ds18 super tweeters

[@hydrodipart9949]

still love ds18 and they working pro in my car .

[@WAT3VATVUSA]

DS18 PRO-X6.4BM

[@gabexvideos7363]

If these speakers (Pro) are for compeition, what Pioneer series is for quality sound? A series?

[@phillipdickson9949]

Hello Mike you have to try the rockville pros. Can't match their price point and performance. Promise!

[@pradipkumarkar5106]

I love ur test sir.

[@halseyballistic]

Outstanding demo! Both really great speakers and each brings something great to the listeners depending on who's listening and for what reasons. DS18 bullet has a flatter response curve, better for a more accurate representation of the music in a mixing situation. The Pioneer bullet has a more detailed, as explained, but an almost false representation of the music. With the said, the Pioneer bullet is great if you want clear accurate details and not caring about the true flatter musical representation from the engineer who mixed the songs.

[@noncog1]

Eq the pioneer and bam Also the ds18 sounds hollow, not accurate

[@frankstetka7206]

DS sounds hollow because it’s useful range is focused in a tighter band, this would likely vanish when put with a mid bass and tweeter; the Pioneer definitely covers more ground but is beaming with that phase plug. I almost prefer to reshape it or knock it off.

[@donnronnbagger1727]

This video is the truth. But I think I like the DS18. It sounds like it would fit a heavy bass line, a little better

[@askin2928]

HI MIDRANGE AND YOUR SUGGESTIONS13 16 TO 17 CM AND OVAL 6X9 SERIES AND WHICH BRAND UNIFI SHOULD APPROPRIATELY SOUND GOOD

[@AutoBodyEverything]

Thank you!

[@kamarrowe]

Man that pioneer so clean

[@djhotshot4901]

Can you play this record on one of your speaker review video please. I will like to hair the way it sounds.

[@kitisakmaneechay3838]

Super treble speakers with DS18 speakers are well suited.

[@THESUBZILLA]

Also subbed!

[@hugoaguilar9407]

You should try the 10 inch massive audio mcii

[@mohammadizadi5119]

Hi,its a very good video,thanke you very much. I want buy a midrange system for my car.Do you know wich midrange is powerfull and the best??!

[@svitroful]

Pioneers sound better to me, less nasal compared to the DS18 - Good Demo

[@kalenaquick8225]

Amazing video

[@jonfoss3437]

I bought 2 pair of the pioneers on sale for $100, shame they wouldnt fit my car, i was thinking of hooking them to my emotiva amplifier , its rated 300 watts per channel @ 40hms

[@danishsunny5683]

You have the best way to explain sound differences you are the best!!!!

[@SDG0213]

Which would be better for bass in a stock radio?

[@leonelgarcia7327]

Hi, thanks for share, For pioneers I need an extra amplifier or is enough with the 50w per channel of the car audio stereo?

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Under 50w amp pioneer will sleep all day )

[@brettmowle1843]

Ds18 is just for loud loud front stage. Pioneer is loud loud plus sound quality. It all depends on what your after

[@gretchenescudero2082]

Hello, you have to make another comparison with the pioneer and the Mtx Thunder RTX658 6.5 ”1200w 8-Ohm is a very good speaker

[@watsonanthony8438]

What you know about dat

[@paquesepas6696]

Did you like the selenium mids 6.5 I have some in the closet for years I think with pyle super tweeters?

[@amritsarboy1]

I have 2 way speaker. It has two drivers. One must be a tweeter, small one. What would be the other one ? Midrange or midbass ?

[@pradipkumarkar5106]

After this test i think not need to buy 5.1 ch system. Really it sounds great.

[@sandyerida1517]

how would we know if you really did the same thing adjustments on the amp driving the speakers between pioneer and ds18 if you don’t show it to us? we can think that you made a bias on the amp.... show us the amp sir so that we can really decide which one is the best

[@AngelSanchez-ud3mi]

Nice review

[@G.L.P.40]

Wht amp did run in ur car and did u run it with the super tweeter

[@markmonroe943]

Hi! What baffle volume suitable for m800 pro

[@armonnykelley1838]

I could be mistaken, BUT....the DS18 is an 8ohm & the Pioneeris a 4ohm, so it's not a good comparison against the Pioneer. You have to use the 4ohm model & you'll see the difference. DS18 will show up the Pioneer. The impedance causes the Pioneer to get about twice the wattage. #usethe4ohm!

[@watsonanthony8438]

Ds18 do make 4 ohms 2

[@bagoodperson]

What is a good midass frequency?? should u set filter on hpf or full range ? Is -6db recommended at 50hz on eq to hear midbass better??

[@kremenko34]

HPF 80/100khz - LPF 3khz-5khz.

[@ismaelanciado2047]

Did you use a capacitor for that mid?

[@argeliomarchan6554]

try this model of espeaker DS18 PRO-X4.4BM & DS18 Pro-x4m, these mini speakers are loud

[@JayPrindlePureJoy]

Have you put that tweeter with the 8" speakers?

[@raphaelbarrosdesa8936]

Pioneer is 110w RMS where as the DS18 claim to be 250w RMS , am I wrong or DS18 is lying about their RMS?? please help as i got the Ds18's to buy in UK but unfortunately not pioneers...

[@leonardrodriguez1289]

Can you put the 8” Skar in the rear deck to replace a factory subwoofer? I guess more mid range? If so need an amp?

[@LIFEINSPEED]

any 6.5 sub will give you more bass then any 8 inch midrange

[@alisahamlett6331]

To me the ds18 sounded better more clear but wish yiu would have played something with vocal

[@kingstvmadeyou7896]

Can you run the pioneer speakers without a amplifier? I have a 2018 Honda Civic type r and I want to change the factory speakers to those what do you think.

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Get other speaker if you dont want amp

[@bagoodperson]

4:10 what is the name of instrumental??PLEASE

[@connorshipman8247]

That ds18 would sound better paired with a subwoofer I think

[@jasonn5196]

Those pioneers sound more complete it was really nice to listen to, why the DS18 not move more ? a little bit more wiggle would be nice.

[@disneyfreek1000]

It needs a sub

[@murrayent1able]

Damm, those super Twitters r sick too.

[@claudinostemarie9769]

The pioneer pro series tweeter is much better than the ds18

[@JerzyBoy973]

Pioneer hands down!!

[@Technotranceism]

Both sound good

[@pedrotorres6721]

So the pioneers speakers need an amplifier? Can they be used without an amplifier ?

[@terencebigt3825]

Man! Pioneer is king! I want to put those in the fairing of my Harley Roadglide but they look too damn huge to fit!

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Bro watch my other videos king was destroyed with other speakers

[@terencebigt3825]

LIFE IN SPEED Mike Angels cool but i think I’m going with those big pioneers

[@mikehammer2408]

@@terencebigt3825 Did you ever install in the Fairing? I've got a street glide as well and was curious if they will fit

[@terencebigt3825]

@@mikehammer2408 unfortunately they didn’t fit! Ended up giving them to my son for his car but they sounded awesome! Just too dang big!

[@JMG897]

Lo que pasa es que con el Pioneer se escucha mas el tweeter y con el Ds18 te da un sonido en flat

[@elvegabass4939]

mas bien el Pioneer tiene un rango más amplio de frecuencias

[@JMG897]

no es lo mismo pero con otras palabras?

[@magarwal1]

Pioneer TS-M650PRO Vs ORION XTR XTR654 NEO / XPM654MBF Comparison Video would be worth watching

[@francisprevel1]

Name of the song you where playing in 8:00 ?

[@NightshiftCustom]

pioneer all day!

[@OG_Fernando]

F.y.i - I own a pair of DS18 Elite Z10" Subwoofers and it's an EFFING BEAST!

[@stateofemergency4966]

How did you connect the tweeters

[@MicroAppleStudios]

Why does every comparison with ds18 always use 8ohm ds18 vs 2-4ohm other brands?

[@blaikepp]

what size are the enclosures?

[@4708timothy]

Try the Resilient sounds Neo 6.5

[@steelerpat33]

DS18s are beast they are taking the music in car audio by storm

[@edgardotorres7551]

IE BADBOY I like them a lot, do you know someone or have seen someone with the ds18 pro gm8?

[@steelerpat33]

@@edgardotorres7551 I haven't no but I'm doing 3 ds18 15s in my 2018 Tundra

[@agwhof3014]

Subbed

[@Anthony-cc8bx]

DS 18 sound more open and would be good for vocals. Pioneer is a little more compressed. I wish you would play a vocal song without the pumping bass and we will know.

[@frankstetka7206]

Your thinking the Pioneer needs a huge amplifier is counter to the reality of the efficiency from a larger magnet. Overall DS18 is more a midrange and Pioneer full range. In an SPL competition utilizing more and different drivers I think I would use DS but for a simpler system Pioneer.

[@juneboy5024]

What would you recommend for a motorcycle set up the pioneer pro and tweeter or a JBL gto 6x9? both powered by amplifiers

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Pioneer way louder then jbl but they need strong amp an tweeters

[@kiwianthony3878]

Vocals would really help

[@RedREntertainment]

Pioneer 👍

[@DBrown-xj3wf]

What speaker would you recommend for a stock Chevy stereo system to put in the rear of a van .on the cheap

[@LIFEINSPEED]

Rockford 3 way version

[@DBrown-xj3wf]

@@LIFEINSPEED thinking about getting the Rockford fosgate alpha Sonik model AS26 6 and 1/2 in 3-way or the Orion CT-ck 655 6 and 1/2-in or would you recommend a different one these I could get for around $70 for four speakers. I'M LOOKING JUST FOR A GOOD SOUND IN WORK VAN

[@seventhplace]

The only problem I have with the review is that these speakers each have different RMS ratings. Are you using the same app for all speakers?

[@LIFEINSPEED]

There is no problem if you run multiple speakers ull feel difference if 1 speaker per channel both will sound the same

[@adam8137]

To me it sounds like the pioneer is less harsh

[@claudinostemarie9769]

You need to listen with good headphone you will see👍

[@sezerergul]

Piooner ❤️

[@carloslivinloud]

Does the pioneer ones fit in a 2014 crewcab Silverado?