Watching back to 4 years ago. It’s crazy how differently things are done here in 2023 as a first year.
@charliehyde52543 жыл бұрын
You gotta wrap it to cut it straight? I'm only 7 months in and my foreman would have my ass if I took this this long🤣🤣 wheres your 2-4 cutters?
@safeinsound4322 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I'd be embarrassed to be this guy's apprentice
@fitter54232 жыл бұрын
4 wheel cutters are the best way to cut pipe agreed. But tell me something genius. You see how close the pipe was cut next to that welded outlet??? 2 or 4 wheel cutters wouldn’t work in this situation. Plain and simple. It was an instructional video. You ever watch the instructional videos on threading pipe. There 5-10 some even 20 minutes long. There instructional for a reason. Break down every aspect of the job. It isn’t a race bud. Grow the fuck up.
@ELDIABLO0913 Жыл бұрын
In their defense, they might not have been able to use a 2-4 cutter with the cut being that close to the weld-o-let.
@israelelizondo9640 Жыл бұрын
No space for cutter
@ligyron28355 ай бұрын
Anyone saying no space for a cutter don’t know what they are saying. Lots of options, could be a 4-wheel hinge cutter, or etch the pipe with your cutter and then bandsaw it, it will still guide it better than the goofy pipe wrap marker strategy. Anyone wasting time for “perfection” isn’t a good fitter. I’ve cut pipes with chopsaws, grinders, anything available and I’ve never had a leak. It ain’t rocket science. Do the pipes butt up? Okay it’s gonna seal. If my grandfather caught me tracing circles around the pipe before I cut it he would’ve whipped a 90 at me for wasting time.
@seanstafford40123 жыл бұрын
Typical skill level of guys that have only worked in big companies
@safeinsound4322 жыл бұрын
I just watched part 2 bro. I'm glad you took the criticism in stride and changed your ways bro! Be careful using a drill with a groover though you could get hurt on a day where you aren't 100%
@lmunozjr2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man. Appreciate the comments. 🍻🍻
@johnhughes9872 Жыл бұрын
No way lol I use a drill everyday it's so much faster an as long as tour not an idiot you can't get hurt
@safeinsound432 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhughes9872 idk I'm a service guy so it doesn't make sense for me to do it that way. If I'm making a few grooves I'll just use a ratchet And if I'm doing a bunch of big pipe in like a pump replacement I'll throw the groovers on the machine
@freedomlawnservice19872 жыл бұрын
4-6 cutters would smoke this bull shit , typical union fitter slow as fuck
@tuarumcgarvey81603 жыл бұрын
Would have cut and grooved that pipe before you even got your wrap out 🤦🏽♂️ NZ Fitter !
@shanowilliams98513 жыл бұрын
was thinkin the same mark..dropsaw done..good training for his apprentice thou...yehaa kiwi fitter here too
@tuarumcgarvey81603 жыл бұрын
Yip Drop saw, exact cutter , 4 roller hand cutter lol that not tolerated around my way 🤣 Up the Nz fitters
@safeinsound4322 жыл бұрын
A 4 ring doesn't take 6 and a half minutes to cut a pipe. And its always straight. It's as simple as that.
@jacknasty6940 Жыл бұрын
Shoulder will say different after a day of doing it that way
@samirdebnath32223 жыл бұрын
I never see before cutter machine like this. We use grander machine to cut pipes from 3 inches up to 12 inches.
@NYC_Plumber_Guy Жыл бұрын
Skilled at the bandsaw RESPECT
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
Not to bad. It’s always a good option if needed.
@rakso59913 жыл бұрын
is obvious that your company need to upgrade all the equipment, with the right tools cut and groove a pipe will take no more than 4 minutes, to cut that pipe with a hydrocutter with the 700 machine , and groove with the 300 machine and the hydraulic grover easy ..
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
It's called a tutorial video. Of course it doesn't take that long. Thanks for watching 🍻
@ligyron28355 ай бұрын
@@lmunozjrwell, if it’s a TUTORIAL next time let the helper hold the camera and the journeyman should be demonstrating, just saying. There’s a reason why apprentices aren’t the ones training people lol
@lmunozjr4 ай бұрын
@@ligyron2835 I’m not the one looking up how to groove pipe through. Thanks for watching brotha🍻
@yaknow673 жыл бұрын
more like pipe fitting at it's worst
@yaknow673 жыл бұрын
what're you hanging 30 feet of main a day?
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
LOL keep the bench warm partna. 200ft of main a day. "Brushing my shoulders off"
@seanstafford40123 жыл бұрын
Know one said how big of pipe we’re hanging or where your hanging it
@seanstafford40123 жыл бұрын
20 pieces in a wear house is a little different then an express main in a residential apartment complex lift work ain’t the same as ladders and sammys
@seanstafford40123 жыл бұрын
You guy even know wtf an express main is ?
@thomasmcnicholas8656 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love all the perfectionist in the comments 🤦♂️🤦♂️ UA fitter welder here. Sometimes just gotta use the tools handed to you to use……. If a company doesn’t want to invest in the proper tools then oh well, 🤷♂️ improvise then.
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
Can’t please everyone. It’s ok though, post a video and be prepared for criticism. I’m open to it if it’s constructive criticism.
@fitter54234 жыл бұрын
Nice video. But 4 wheel cutters on thin wall is the way to go. Always a straight cut. Pittsburgh Sprinklerfitters LU 542
@lmunozjr4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. Stay safe.
@ligyron28355 ай бұрын
Even if you got a one wheel, if you know how to set it, score it, snap it. If it takes more than 45 seconds on a piece of lightwall you milking it lol.
@fitter54235 ай бұрын
You’re an absolute moron. Typical.
@chrismoore90243 жыл бұрын
Looks like you need a Tri stand with chain vise. Just a humble plumber opinion.
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🍻🍻
@johnflanagan88882 жыл бұрын
Wow, just watched this in UK and I'm astounded. In the UK we'd use a Ridgid 258 to cut, then a Ridgid 918 to groove and have 6 lengths of pipe fitted before these Guy's would have the pipe cut LoL. Mind you whose right or wrong if you can work at that pace all day!!! More fool us over here I suppose. Everyone to there own ways but just highlights how countries/places differ regatds doing the same type of work !!!!! Should of emigrated years ago Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lmunozjr2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. That’s a different method of many methods. Be sure to check out part 2. 🍻🍻
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
UK baby 💪
@joeykeplinger98153 жыл бұрын
Well soapstone is. A fitter thing and I’m one use it next time for a better line
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
I love using soap stone.
@safeinsound4322 жыл бұрын
That my friends, is how not to cut and groove pipe, I'm sorry for the waste of your time.
@safeinsound4322 жыл бұрын
I feel shame after watching this. My old instructor would have a heart attack
@jaydenhoran5128 Жыл бұрын
You would save much more time with a 2 to 4 in cutter and less likely to have a fucked up cut and no need for a pipe wrap and no power needed I can have the piece cut and groved in the same AMT of time u got your mark around the pipe
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
I agree, this is just another opinion to use.
@ruleev643211 ай бұрын
LoL the rookie always does it the hard way
@lmunozjr11 ай бұрын
Yeah man!! Make the apprentice learn different ways to grove.
@ruleev643211 ай бұрын
@@lmunozjrLoL they made me do ALL the in air against the wall/HVAC/cramped spaces repair grooving.
@singularminds65093 жыл бұрын
District 40 Local 669 over here brother. Be safe.
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
Right on brotha! Be safe as well.
@b.w.92443 жыл бұрын
Look at that line! Gonna be a step in that cut. How about just half ass it and fix it with a grinder? Also, that side piece bugs me. I would have cut it off first before doing anything else. Of course, I dont know nothing about anything
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
Just another option in cutting pipe, as you know this.
@b.w.92443 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I need to invent a machine that cuts and grooves at the same time. Powered. And a big rotary file that cleans up both inside and outside at the same time. Also powered.
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
I prefer my 4 wheel cutters. With the proper groover you can just use a drill now. 1/2 drive adaptor, spins like butter. I'll make a video. Thanks for the idea.
@safeinsound4322 жыл бұрын
@@lmunozjr using a drill with a groover. Wtf is wrong with you bro. I know it's done but still.
@tedpernice10742 жыл бұрын
Jeez!!!! You make me nauseous watching you use that wrap a round!!!! Are you kidding me!!! 597!!!! CHICAGO
@lmunozjr2 жыл бұрын
Lol check out the new clip. I just uploaded yesterday.
@fredcellich25414 ай бұрын
as slow as you guys are, Probably took three months to get the pipe off the ground and hung
@lmunozjr4 ай бұрын
I was so far ahead of schedule I had an opportunity to demonstrate one of many methods to cut and groove pipe. Thanks for watching and commenting 🍻
@johnhughes9872 Жыл бұрын
That takes way to long we don't use that it's a waste of time we use hydraulic cutters of 2-4 or 4-6 in cutter I would have been done alot faster that's why we don't like union workers there to slow
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree, thanks for commenting 🍻
@cadfitter87013 жыл бұрын
Doesn't anyone use Soapstone anymore??
@AntonioRodriguez-vg9yx3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. A sharp stone will give you a precise line instead of this blob/bleeding fked up line.
@ligyron28355 ай бұрын
I use whatever is closest to me. Soapstone, lumber crayon, paint marker, heck even a nail to scratch a line. Anyone that needs to go 360 around a pipe with their mark needs to be stuck to the machine til they learn lol
@redbird1824 Жыл бұрын
where is the half round bastard? thats a jewelers file
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
Haha!! 🧢
@seanstafford40123 жыл бұрын
So your company is cheep as well trying to get a set of 4 to 6 cutters is a chore at my company...... you can cut with a bandsaw all day but you would have been done a lot faster with a set of cutters and a 300 with a Grover
@rakso59913 жыл бұрын
true!! their company need to upgrade the equipment ASAP
@gallo59213 жыл бұрын
This are Pipefitter helpers trying to be Pipefitters
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
Really? How so?
@thaiboxer41573 жыл бұрын
This is not a good way to cut pipe lol. Takes way to long. You don’t have a 4wheel cutter?
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
If you know what your doing this very quick. Yes I have 4 wheel cutters. This is just another option as you should know this.
@thaiboxer41573 жыл бұрын
@@lmunozjr I’ve been running work for 5 years here in Los Angeles. No union company does that bro. Waste of hours. Maybe if it’s a piece up in the air that we have to cut and groove on the spot then yes other then that your wasting your job hours and energy.
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your running work. Been running work for 17 year's myself. Stay safe.
@Winder92lx3 жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t get a 4 wheel cutter that close to the weld. You’d have to use a bandsaw.
@fitter54233 жыл бұрын
Bingo. Glad I read through the comments before saying exactly what you said. Someone got a brain on here instead of a immediately criticizing.
@jordanjohnson36693 жыл бұрын
WTF!!! embrassed we are in the same union....
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it, I got a Jordan Johnson within the trade.🤦
@safeinsound4322 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same exact thing while watching this. I can't believe he made it through the apprenticeship let alone has an apprentice under him. Apprentice's with bad fitters as a teacher are doomed.
@shanowilliams98513 жыл бұрын
shes a good groover..if ya cut is square..lol
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
LoL
@israelelizondo9640 Жыл бұрын
Grove used drill for turn es better
@randyperkins35833 жыл бұрын
Painful to watch . If this is what being Union is going to teach you the struggles will last your lifetime.
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
Please explain what was so painful? As you should know given your a wizard, this is just another form of cutting and grooving pipe.
@randyperkins35833 жыл бұрын
@@lmunozjr the struggle from the beginning with the pipe wrap and paint marker . Working at the pace of the Romans when we have advanced so much with tools and knowledge is just going to get you left behind. Get on top of your game or get out of the way !
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
@@randyperkins3583 well it is a tutorial video so I do have to take my time to explain the steps. Also when it comes to teaching my guy's I teach to make my life easier on the job site. Also it not game, it's an adult thang, Know the difference. I would bet my one weeks pay check against your pace any day brotha.
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
Also thanks for watching 🍻🍻.
@randyperkins35833 жыл бұрын
@@lmunozjr your fantasy pal ..live it as you wish .
@joeykeplinger98153 жыл бұрын
Soapstone man
@jacknasty6940 Жыл бұрын
That’s terrible Good Lord, move into the modern era and get an electric groover
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
We’ve moved on to other options. But this is never a bad method to know.
@johnhughes9872 Жыл бұрын
If you didn't use an bandsaw you wouldn't have to use a file also you guys waste alot of time I bet we would put up 100ft of pipe to your 20 you guys are way to slow you wouldn't make it in md
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
Thank you for comment man👌🏾 yeah this was a method I was taught many years ago. I’ve moved on to better techniques that are far more efficient. I’ve even made another video showing another method to cut and groove.
@nylesmoore34223 жыл бұрын
Yeah just leave the porta band right under you so you can step on the switch a cut your foot off..🙄🙄🙄🤭🤭🙁
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
That's unless you got clumsy hands. That doesn't apply here. Good try though 🥃🥃. Thanks for watching
@nylesmoore34223 жыл бұрын
@@lmunozjr is this in Denver, Co
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
@@nylesmoore3422 yes. Denver, Colorado
@nylesmoore34223 жыл бұрын
@@lmunozjr I knew it...I know you then cut I worked on the same jobsite as you back in 2016
@lmunozjr3 жыл бұрын
@@nylesmoore3422 what job? 2016 I was on a TCR job. Lohi
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
Grove the bit with the socket !? I used that Grover on 6" copper!
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
No way u getting a groove on that that close to the weld
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
File only works one way ! Cowboys
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣calm down build a bob.
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
No way is that going to be straight with a hand held band saw!
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
Which line do u cut😂
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
Sprinkler fitters ain't pipe fitters! Not even in the same league! Their below plumbers!
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
Get outta here with that bullshit. And this method is absolutely a good option but you wouldn’t know that given your a plumber. Nothing in the code states this is wrong. Again this is an option, break a cutting wheel you got options. Local 669✊🏾
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
Should have cut it before welding the socket on
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
Sprinkler fitters 🤮
@lmunozjr Жыл бұрын
You must have been cut from the trade to have animosity with sprinkler fitters. Don’t forget to check out my other video grooving pipe with a drill😉🫡
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
@@lmunozjr mate I'm a fully fledged pipe fitter welder! Steam the lot ! Been their done that!
@Broski2322 Жыл бұрын
@@lmunozjr my mother was a boiler and my father's name was ridgid I was bottle fed Steam