This is unrelated to this video, but I just had the exact example that Pipton described a few times when talking about how this game isn't so much about social deduction anymore: a pros came out and prosecuted 2 evils, a deputy came out and shot an evil, and then I started a tribunal and hung 3 evils. This happened on d2 and the game ended
@DueIou8 ай бұрын
either significantly buff evils or severely nerf town
@HenStep-dd9wl8 ай бұрын
I'd say nerf town, or you'll have the same problem just worse because you'll have the same OP town and OP evils making games even quicker.
@JustapErson8 ай бұрын
Yea it's definitely an issue now. Way too many confirmable townies. And like guaranteed confirmable too, not semi confirmable.
@Malroth00Returns8 ай бұрын
They need to have any auto confirming town role disable the abilities of the other auto confirming town roles untill the first one dies. Example Deputy shoots someone? Marshal and mayor can't use their ability untill deputy is dead.
@Pam2348 ай бұрын
It’s becoming less of deducing evils and instead don’t get overcome by the amount of power creep that town has.
@themystic87368 ай бұрын
14 was using the “precept” thing and not realizing how it works lol
@xwxo8 ай бұрын
"im med" xDD i wouldve replied with "post dead chat"
@Varatho8 ай бұрын
There has been a distinct rise in the number of people just throwing as of late. Ti's just not posting in the open d1, Ritualists randomly guessing d1. Evils who just don't claim. It's kind of frustrating.
@Agent-Ig8 ай бұрын
Legit had a game today where the Psychic never posted because “posting just gets me killed by coven”. They were the only TI besides a Lo and a purple LO/tracker hybrid.
@ChaseJonas758 ай бұрын
Is your first d1 supposed to be d2, and is the second one supposed to be n1? I thought TI’s claimed and posted d2 and obviously rits can’t use their ability during the day.
@yuakka8 ай бұрын
@@ChaseJonas75 he meant d2 for ti's and n1 for rits
@JustapErson8 ай бұрын
Agreed, had someone claim spy last game at like d3 and act like a jester/evil for most of the game and never post will. Almost made us lose to hidden soul collector.
@SirStanleytheStumbler8 ай бұрын
My only Coroner game so far. N1 Died to coven, I embraced the sweet release.
@sabarathore51748 ай бұрын
11:50 This feels like "Chaos Lookout" all over again.
@six-winged-juni7 ай бұрын
Wasn't chaos lookout the guy who posted a different ti will and got someone else lynched or do i misremember? I remember chaos lookout but not what they did
@bunnieapplebaum8 ай бұрын
I miss TOS1 Invest. It was one of my favourite town roles, and i always fake claimed it when i was Witch/Consig.
@ilikecatsandtos28 ай бұрын
Maybe they should've made it random (results) because some ppl found it hard to keep up with exact results, but otherwise, it was far better
@nonomen66658 ай бұрын
@@ilikecatsandtos2 Random results would just make fake claiming with an invest in the match nearly impossible unless you happen to get lucky.
@AnasatisTiMiniatis8 ай бұрын
The way they did it had way too much influence and restriction on the claim meta. I agree that randomizing it would have helped, but that came with other balance issues they didn't want to work out.
@vascofernandes2958 ай бұрын
@@nonomen6665 Simple fix: Have your own results be given to you at the start of N1
@Ruvan978 ай бұрын
Tos1 invest made the claim meta too strict
@talithmara25898 ай бұрын
Wow, when I saw 5 pushing that hard for TP/LO I thought for SURE they were a Veteran. I was too distracted by that to even factor in the scumreading that went into guessing the conjurer and serial killer.
@Zethios8 ай бұрын
I hit Ti peak in my first 5 games, one was sheriff, found a coven and sk and town just won by d3, next was a coro game and a berserk killed so I just autopsies to find it and I found it immediately
@ilikecatsandtos28 ай бұрын
I found CL, conj AND pois in one game.
@roughgorilla42218 ай бұрын
Pipe you had 3 extra nights to get the hardest Coro achieve, find 3 separate killers in one game! SMH
@_StarlightRose_8 ай бұрын
I would rather roll Coro over Invest
@SirStanleytheStumbler8 ай бұрын
I can understand why people don't like it but I have had better luck as invest.
@TheRestless998 ай бұрын
@@SirStanleytheStumblerbefore the update it was basically useless
@FGenthusiast00528 ай бұрын
I am more willing to trust a Coroner over an Invest claim. It depends of the flow of the game, sure, but fake claim Coroner requires some manner of thought, due to seeing the exact killer. Else, you are exposed. Invest is as lazy as Ret, but now you can do 'Percept' instead of 'Investigate'. Coroner also has the fact of confirming themselves fast with the exact killer if found. Also, Coroner is underestimated A LOT from the TIs. There's also the fact Tracker can confirm a Coroner when they autopsy someone, due to them visiting the dead person no matter what, along with the one they are examining. It's still a rather weak role, but when gaining trust, a Coroner is easier to discern if what they are saying is real or false. Coroner team here.
@realjimmycasket8 ай бұрын
Same, new invest is easy worse than old invest. I miss knowing role possibilities
@realjimmycasket8 ай бұрын
@@SirStanleytheStumbler, Coroner is just more interesting than ToS2 Investigator.
@Gianski1508 ай бұрын
Rare moments that coroner pops off but town died
@micha87018 ай бұрын
Autospy sk after he dc would give achivement for finding killer 3 times.
@lynnlin43788 ай бұрын
Coroner is fun when there is a Shroud in the game
@Thepopmario8 ай бұрын
That's strange, I seem to have added the Monarch to my autopsy list...
@six-winged-juni7 ай бұрын
Love how pipe just wrote "The Killer".
@silvercyndaquil84728 ай бұрын
I haven't played ToS2 myself yet but from what I've seen from videos I'd rather role Invest just because evils are more likely to fake claim Coro which means Coroners don't tend to be as trusted.
@zlaggaming688 ай бұрын
I rather play as coroner since I can figure out the necro holders and I can’t be fooled by the enchanter
@naiveideen16388 ай бұрын
wouldnt it have been better to visit 12 in the last night? there is nothing that punishes you for visiting, but if you get shrouded, you at least redirect it, instead of being killed for staying home.
@PK-bn2pg8 ай бұрын
Most underrated role
@SushieCat8 ай бұрын
Ahh yes, the best role
@superspino9498 ай бұрын
Coroner any day over Inves
@ajsciri48 ай бұрын
love you pipe thanks for all the content :D
@shadowcatX20004 ай бұрын
Investigator. I just started playing a few days ago and I already loathe the rolls that require people to get killed in order to do anything. My last coro game I got hung day 3 because I had a weak claim after no one got murdered N1 and N2.
@AbsolsRazorWind8 ай бұрын
I would rather roll coroner. Invest can be fooled by illusionist and enchanter, unless percepting.
@ilikecatsandtos28 ай бұрын
0:58 Coroner ANY day.
@Draphia8 ай бұрын
There really needs to be an acheiv for getting meteored as a jest
@shadowkahn94158 ай бұрын
GG Great video as always :)
@anzyroadside23748 ай бұрын
Coroner staying alive means town lost.
@tyquil8258 ай бұрын
Coroner is fun imo as long as there is no dusa
@Thepopmario8 ай бұрын
Coroner can autopsy stoned roles.
@meni56788 ай бұрын
what an AWSOME game as the CORONER pipetron.
@cylesteasunrise31998 ай бұрын
How can it be a CL game when conj had book n1?
@user-tf2cr4uu5v8 ай бұрын
Tbh, huge misplay by you. If you voted inno and hanged shroud/cov you could win
@ichego5528 ай бұрын
Didn't conj have book he couldn't have been cl if I remember book priority
@voidfloof8 ай бұрын
Yup he was trying to get pipe to vote the shroud out
@vascofernandes2958 ай бұрын
Conj doesn't need book to meteor
@mardenalbert18668 ай бұрын
@@vascofernandes295pay attention to the death note, it was conj who killed at night
@Thepopmario8 ай бұрын
@@mardenalbert1866 He could have easily just done that even if he wasn't the book holder. I know that's not the case here but it would be possible.
@vascofernandes2958 ай бұрын
@@mardenalbert1866 oh
@91sabra8 ай бұрын
I’d rather role invest but I’d take Coro over sheriff
@Iris-riv8 ай бұрын
Chaos Invest
@trentgawd42927 ай бұрын
Corner
@Succui8 ай бұрын
nice
@Cosmo_Maxi8 ай бұрын
i prefer rolling invest
@NarkoRock8 ай бұрын
Who's talking about invest or coro? I'd rather get shot than play coroner.
@jumnei51598 ай бұрын
I rather be Dreamweaver. no better role to confirm townies
@Thepopmario8 ай бұрын
I only ever use Dreamweaver ability if I know who a TPOW is or if there is also a Voodoo Master.
@Xeon25808 ай бұрын
Yay (Died N1)
@freshsmilely8 ай бұрын
metoring a jester has to feel so bad as coven but great as the jester.
@FredSchmid-d3l8 ай бұрын
Coroner? I hardly know er
@marcobett93728 ай бұрын
BAH
@professorhal80988 ай бұрын
L coroner L coroner L coroner smh
@Hazard-0788 ай бұрын
Coro, Invest kinda sucks
@andrewmcalpine25228 ай бұрын
Day 203 of asking Pipe to play Lovers mode in Tos 1 till he gets the rare Pestilence message.