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[@tenebrisnarud9738]

You know something terrible has happened when your Security Specialist goes 'Oh no' and starts to panic

[@Reivaki]

rule 3 : An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody.

[@awolr]

Yeah and unfortunately, this happen almost weekly. People make really dumb mistakes and are almost always the weak point in security

[@atroxiv]

@@awolr But they weren't in this case... Except for the ones who didn't change their passwords when prompted.

[@awolr]

@@atroxiv So your point was "no, but actually yes"?

[@BigMikeyT730]

​@@awolr😂😂😂 True.

[@barney10240]

A lot of the problems in the world could be easily solved if more people simply said, "Wait, this is stupid and short-sighted."

[@pairot01]

In this case, if all 3 cartels did that, the problem would have been much, much worse.

[@SeaFireK]

Being selfish in a long-term usually turns out to being really nice to people. And occasionally kind. Not in a 'really going out of your way' type but in a 'being polite and friendly and occasionally sharing your extra' way. Being nice/generous can give you a good feeling, people tend to reciprocate, and sometimes even go out of their way to help you back.

[@able34bravo37]

This would eliminate stakeholder capitalism.

[@cjslime8847]

as long as the problem is only sort sighted for 20 years , they will keep doing it

[@obvioustroll69]

Big oil in a nutshell

[@hexbox2182]

Bro really pulled a: “Professionals have standards”

[@Shendue]

Not really. First of all, they did it out of self interest, which has nothing to do with standards. They just did it to avoid the price of gold tanking FOR THEMSELVES. If it did, all the gold they stole would have zero value suddenly, and their income depended on selling gold. Secondarily, as someone pointed out, even telling them could have been part of the plan, to first tank the value on purpose (so that they could buy a lot of gold for pennies) then raise it again to then sell it.

[@MilkshakeGuruTTV]

@@Shendue "they did it out of self interest, which has nothing to do with standards." Or hear me out. The standard is to not do this so that everyone can make a living off it which was the point of doing it in the first place.

[@KamikazeMedias]

​@@Shendue their self interest alinges with the people. So its still good.

[@hellaciousbluephlegmaneurysm]

@@KamikazeMedias the invisible hand works 100% of the time, 1% of the time

[@youtubeguy8796]

@Shendue You're just explaining how they're professional and what standards they are implementing bro.

[@ayakaasama]

That's why some companies now force you to actually change your pass by giving you error "password can't be same as previously used password"

[@dgarrard100]

Which is when you increase the number at the end by 1.

[@erice3525]

And also why it’s not recommended anymore because people made passwords easier to guess if they constantly had to change them.

[@thecrispymaster]

@erice3525 Forcing you to use a different password on changing it literally has nothing to do with the frequency you're forced to change it. I have no idea what you're on about.

[@annayakuhana3007]

@@erice3525 yep. I have 4 accounts for different systems I use for work, they each require a different password that must be changed every 3 months and cannot repeat for 2 years. Everyone has those passwords taped to their monitor because absolutely no one can remember them.

[@MaximusChivus]

​@@thecrispymaster If you have to change your password once a week, you're gonna do something simpler to remember than if you changed it once every couple months.

[@architakumar2579]

Honorable old "smuggling" cartel vs Greedy new "drug dealer" cartel. Tale as old as time 😂😂

[@KSCG]

Yusyud!!! Sotrue..

[@jakubgrzybek6181]

Yakuza vs new gang type of shit.

[@B3RyL]

Medellin?

[@StanleyPain]

The difference between a rogue and a thief.

[@dud3655]

Ah yes, the "we don't harm civvies so please leave us alone" versus "yeah we kill people for fun" type of shit

[@DaveLunderground]

this is the classic "you don't punish the guy who knows your weaknesses, you hire him"

[@DustinJames-mk1gl]

Runescape used this strategy A man made the world's most popular runescape bot Rather than trying to sue him because the bot client contains copyrighted content, they hired him on as the lead of anti-cheat team. He singlehandedly destroyed every bot in the game for days with the infamous "bot nuke"

[@carmacksanderson3937]

@@DustinJames-mk1gl That sounds awesome. Anywhere I can learn more about this?

[@DustinJames-mk1gl]

@@carmacksanderson3937 I thought I replied the first time but it didn't go through His name is mod Jacmob

[@xenophilius13]

@@carmacksanderson3937 I think this video covers it =] kzbin.info/www/bejne/anavg3mIhLqZbJYsi=FxPyEYEBtK4QoQCu

[@josephschultz3301]

@@carmacksanderson3937 Agreed, that sounds badass :D

[@unclewaldosworkshop]

Security specialist freaking out has the same energy as a Sergeant EOD bomb specialist freaking out

[@BloopTube]

An EOD Tech in motion outranks everyone else.

[@crackwitz]

Tech goes running muttering "fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck". Everyone follows him frantically. He enters the outhouse. Everyone follows. You know where this is going.

[@misterbleedinggums]

I remember back in WoTLK i became friendly with a gold seller. She told me that all the farmers and hackers were mainly men while the sellers/people who reached out to talk were females. They had a warehouse with bunks for them to sleep in but it was pretty much a dedicated work house. I never had money to buy but she was happy i was kind to her so we chatted on an im, i think it was aol? I remember a few years had passed when i heard from her again, she had left the job and gotten married and shared some wedding photos. I was so happy to hear that of her. I lost contact years ago but i still think of her every so often. I hope they're doing well now

[@Hypnotically_Caucasian]

Wholesome

[@cattysplat]

Women as the front facing customer service role has always been the most effective way of selling products to men without them asking too many questions.

[@emperor8716]

are you telling me they got together irl and lived together to make money off of hacking a game?

[@Egalitariat-likesecretariat]

@misterbleedinggums, it's never too late to reach out to them again. It sounds like she was a good friend.

[@strykertron232]

@@cattysplat It's Marketting tales as old as time, from business, governments, and cults.

[@hiiambarney4489]

This is the ultimate power move. The third Cartel probably stockpiled a ton of gold through this method while d.a. Cartel 1 and 2 sold their stock. When the price went back up they had a massive value increase simply by snitching.

[@OndraUrban]

I used to work at one Amazon warehouse and met some girl I knew from school. We talked a bit during our trip home and she told me that she just got some bonuses for telling on guy that she saw stealing. Then 30s later she went "yea and then I got myself this" and pulled out some cheap jewelry she stole... Sometimes I'm surprised by what people do...

[@EriSenshur]

​@@OndraUrbandyring? Do u mean during?

[@jordan9604]

​@@EriSenshurIt is pretty damn obvious. Although, I thank you for pointing it out in case someone is trying to learn English from KZbin comments.

[@EriSenshur]

@@jordan9604 Sorry you decided to white knight the guy but I only ask because I have dyslexia and it was confusing to me so... If you ain't got nice things to say shut your fuckin mouth kid.

[@JopzzSD]

@@jordan9604grow up and relax dude, you made a mistake. Own up to it.

[@arcticseanachai2283]

This putting off “I’m a businessman” vibes

[@peterkent6250]

I met a guy from china through boosting and through google translate we got speaking about the gold market. They now have entire "mafias" basically gold selling corps, within discord etc. The way it works is you funnel all the gold you earn to middle men which are connected to the "cartels, mafia's w.e". The cartel consists of logistics for holding and delivering gold but you also have marketing, customer service etc and even CEO/boss types that bring it all together. It also allowed sharing off systems so if a gold seller lost his level 60 mage but has shown he can grind gold 12 hours a day every day doing mara boosts. They would "lend" him a level 60 mage.

[@nathaniels9141]

He calls them gold cartel or whatever. Truth is it's probably people in poor countries. Where they can make more selling gold than they could work an actual job.

[@rydergolde3169]

he's a businessman doing business

[@RoonMian]

Stringer Bell from The Wire. When crooks pay attention in economics class.

[@Lalon93]

@@nathaniels9141 no probably, its for sure. Gold has a vaule, compare it to the value of the currency and you can see where its profitable to farm gold and sell it for money.

[@maximumsuspense]

When the cartel goes "This is wrong," you've hit a new low.

[@neximer1028]

It was less, "this is wrong" and more like, "these short sighted idiots are ruining our business, here's how to stop them."

[@zachnado69]

wrong cartel, bro...

[@deltablaze77]

Emerges from the shadows: "I have something...you might find interesting."

[@Wonder_ing_David]

The worst part is when CS is showing the issues to other departments, and they're like "yeah yeah, you can handle it"

[@Gtascyzoryk12]

Which is most of the time until someone important gets impacted.

[@UnarmedBastard]

"bug was reported, no resolution timeframe given, enjoy the shitty calls for weeks/months you shithead low tier goons"

[@ivas615]

And in the post-mayday analysis they don't want to put 'listen to CS' in the early detection plan...

[@thegreatpleco3920]

Bruh i have this experience but opposite

[@wotdat7983]

beyond real, I've had so many jira tickets where the response was the most inane general bullshit that I may as well not have bothered making the ticket at all

[@casuallyexisting2401]

“I was a businessman, doing business”

[@logdog6762]

But my business, was crime

[@bluelemonade415]

@@logdog6762business is business lol

[@bevynq]

Crime pretty much is a business, governed by the same rules, risk/reward supply/demand

[@youknowwho3097]

Valefisk reference? 👀

[@logdog6762]

@@youknowwho3097 Bobby Cummins

[@samsonhaze6595]

I love Thor’s “behind the scenes of an MMO” perspective lmao

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

Damn it took me a solid minute to remember what channel I'm watching, legitimately I was thinking for a bit "hell I feel like if one security breach was so big to crash the gold price I feel I'd have heard of that".

[@natestein4861]

I was one of those that had 2FA for WoW and still got hacked. Took like an hour to verify it was me and get back in. Haven't been hacked since. Thanks for doing whatever you guys did to fix that.

[@kaystephan2610]

How does that happen tho?

[@Wildcat12]

@@kaystephan2610 There's a number of ways it COULD happen, but all of them are very unlikely. 2FA is very difficult to breach. No one knows specifically what happened here because 2FA vulnerabilities are extremely severe security flaws and aren't the type of thing that you'd want to speak on publicly even after you've fixed it, for fear that vulnerability could pop up in another place for someone else. Just pass the info along privately to relevant companies and move on quietly.

[@gotenks157]

​@@kaystephan2610 Doubt they will say how.

[@trippxhd955]

@@kaystephan2610I think it would be a form of session hijacking

[@donerzombie1349]

​@@kaystephan2610from all the info we hot here it sounds quite a lot like it was this way: They introduced 2FA, but you had to puck a new pw for that. The old one was kept in place to bypass 2FA and thus whoever just took the old pw was effectively on regular pw authentication without realizing. Once the seemingly "not so important" pw got leaked you could just use that to bypass 2FA. The old layer 8 problem in the end.

[@Oh-Ben]

I love how the devs referred to them as cartels

[@sniperfi4532]

I mean they fit the definition

[@JonesCrimson]

RWT is a lot more organized than you think.

[@Raumes513]

I mean if legit cartel members are making money off of selling OSRS gold I’m sure they’re in all games that this can be done to I think El Salvador or some central/south American country’s entire economy was ran off of osrs no shit it’s crazy

[@viktoranderas9541]

He talked about it more on stream and basically it's organised crime that comes out of China because China has no laws to protect digital stuff outside of China or something like that. Basically they go to poor people and pay them like 20% more then any person in their village is making. Just to run some programs on a computer. Whichis a deal any sane person would take.

[@Hariol_]

It's typically Venezuela. Source: I play the game ​@@Raumes513

[@markoj182]

The third cartel guy understands meaning and importance of balance. A true master of grey

[@semicedevine6918]

This goes so well with all the star wars shorts I've been watching

[@Swankyagate79]

I can’t even express how highly I think of Thor. He also has majestic hair and a majestic voice.

[@michaelmoore2679]

This is what Tolkien meant by evil always being the source of its own undoing.

[@elikyiael8740]

tolkien was right in all planes of speech in this quote, hot damn may it be on my personal life, on exemples like this or on governmental scale he's a 100% right

[@TsunamiWombat]

In Lord of the Rings, Gold - as in *the element of gold itself* is mildly evil because Melkor (basically Satan) corrupted all of it centuries ago. This in turn corrupted both men and dwarves with a lust for gold and a willingness to commit atrocities for it. TL;DR getting off the gold standard delayed the return of the dark one and 'Tulkamania' a few thousand years thank you economists

[@MaxIronsThird]

nah, this is more like people are just stupid

[@ChoJun69]

@@MaxIronsThird You mean.... people who probably gonna quit doing "cartel gold selling" and just make quick cash out not caring about 3rd chinese botfarm. Stupid people would be the ones getting hacked for reusing the same passwords etc. Here they're evil = trying to steal and profit from it, 3rd cartel is the same, just because they sold the other two, doesn't mean they didn't go back and steal shit and RMT the game by ruining the economy. AKA evil undoing itself.

[@thearcanehunter2736]

@@MaxIronsThirdNot all that different really, there are various reasons this qoute is right.

[@justinsmith3981]

Fun fact: Capt Steven K Bannon ran Chinese Gold farms via his private equity fund back in the original WOW days. Goldman Sacks provided 60 million of funding for the venture.

[@DavidTriphon]

I had to look this up. This is crazy. Apparently the source is a book written by a Bloomberg Businessweek reporter, Joshua Green, called Devils Bargain. Supposedly Goldman Sachs didn't supply all of the 60 million from what I'm reading about the book though.

[@asdf2098]

And apparently this is how he started gathering his white supremacist fanbase, all through wow at first, then through Breitbart

[@Raumes513]

Lmao this is pretty funny

[@chinashorts1491]

I shook his hand. He was only with PlayerAuctions for a limited time. He clearly had no idea what he was doing. He also never owned a gold farm. Also, the investment by GoldMan Sachs performed VERY poorly. We were all pretty happy to see him go because he was going to run the company further into the ground.

[@someweeb3650]

Goldman Sachs will give 60 million to a fucking Chinese WoW gold farmer and then turn around and say I can't afford a $1000 mortgage when I already pay $1500 in rent.

[@colbyallman]

CS: 1 guy got hacked with 2 factor Data integrity: 🤔 CS: 200 people got hacked with 2 factor DI: 😳😅😭😔🤬

[@JoseTorres-ry9qe]

The Cartel Dilemma, personified.

[@AHersheyHere]

Sometimes enemies become allies.

[@Random_dud31]

Well, you know the saying. The enemy of my enemy is my friend

[@ZoraPMC]

In business, there is no permanent enemies.

[@sbsftw4232]

​@@ZoraPMCare

[@David9413]

It was just an old-fashioned, illegitimate businessman wanting to go back to business as usual.

[@sunbleachedangel]

not really

[@mylittledarkworldjohn4289]

Cartel 3: thats bullshit, im gonna tell the devs

[@asagiai4965]

Someone once said "Everyone wants to do bad things, until they don't get good things out of it"

[@Exydna]

"I'm not a gangster. I'm a businessman and my business is crime." - Bobby Cummines

[@Mostbee]

HE did what to the mines?

[@WFly101]

You know shit's serious when the cartel snitches without bribing

[@AgeofJP]

if only we had that kind of opposition in the RL banking/financial system...it's so sad that this is an example of thought and reason being able to win when the government (devs) actually want the country (game) to succeed. But in our reality the short sighted cartels are the ones that employ the devs for the literal purpose of making their schemes work until everything crashes, and then to make sure to keep them safe and not liable so they can implement the next scheme

[@notlistening6499]

Didn't expect to find a "History on Crack" moment on this channel but I was not disappointed by it.

[@jakebeansboy3755]

Professionals have STANDARDS

[@Vladdy89]

No. Just basic economy.

[@anonimus370]

2 cartels had hackers, the third: economists.

[@CodyPoll]

I know which one I think is more dangerous

[@knightsoftheroundbagel6254]

Reminds me of a line from a ssethtzeentach video

[@bg3841]

@@CodyPoll cartels will steal your money and tell you to f*k off. Economists will tell you your money has f*ked off, then steal it.

[@beanureeves9650]

bro really said "yknow, i am a perpretrator of the same crime but its really not profitable if we're all doing it and in such large amounts at once"

[@zachnado69]

you're thinking of the wrong cartel...

this story got too many plot twist, i love it

[@BigFootTheRealOne]

Don't worry bro. All the password requirements are so convoluted I basically have to make a new password each time

[@dense_and_dull]

LOL tell me about it. I started using password generators and keeping them logged on a separate device. I don't trust those password saving programs.

[@nickypoo52]

@@dense_and_dull good. Use a password generator / manager and use it to generate codes. Realistically, you can't really trust any application you don't host yourself, that's the reality. Just pick the best one. They often list how they keep your passwords free (last pass before it shit the bet, did some cryptography wizardry for example)

[@DaremKurosaki]

@@dense_and_dull You could just go for the old-fashioned way my Dad used to use: Keep a password locked Excel file (or something similar) with all your login credentials in it. Then just copy/paste your password as needed. Just make sure whatever password you use for the file is something that 1) You can easily remember, 2) Is sufficiently complicated, and 3) You don't use ANYWHERE else.

[@BoinkrNanis]

​@whymustyouignorereality lol, keep them logged somewhere, on a device? Fam, I write my shit down in a book. I dont even mind having to change them cause rhe book is next to my desk with logged chapters for specific places lol. I don't even say them outloud cause Google always listening.

[@nickypoo52]

@@BoinkrNanis lol, im in cyber sec and I often joke that the best security recommendation I have is pen and paper

[@flamemdq]

I always remember playing Skyrim, if you join the Thief's Guild, they tell you "we don't kill"... You don't kill the cows if you only need milk

[@solaris9426]

Similarly, you don't kill sheep if you only need wool, and you don't kill the poultry if you only need eggs.

[@drewpeacock9087]

@@solaris9426 are you 60iq or what lmao what do you think you are adding by "expanding" the metaphor?

[@Kero-zc5tc]

@@drewpeacock9087Ngl your comment was completely unnecessary though tbf he literally just added more almost identical examples which doesn’t at all expand or help understand the point

[@Malpheron]

The competition probably bought up all the cheep gold before they gave it up.

[@Jordi47]

You never wanna hear a paramedic say "Ohhh shit" That goes double for a security specialist

[@satorudo]

For anyone wondering what likely happened was an MFA Fatigue Attack. Basically the attackers find a username/password combo that works due to re-used, recycled etc. They then input that into the system. It PINGS the MFA authenticator to do a push authorization. If you do this enough your victim will just click "ok" just to shut up the authenticator, once that's done, the attacker is in. Its why many systems now have users input a 2 or 3 digit code when the push comes.

[@mischa7823]

Not in this case. There actually was a way around 2FA

[@Runzi333]

Who sets up two factor and then when it pings when they are not trying to log in just accepts it?? Gotta be the same people stupidly posting their credit cards online.

[@dustojnikhummer]

This is why push OK 2fa is stupid. Either do manual TOTP or type a number

[@rodrigoserafim8834]

Witch is just shows this was a dumb progression for 2FA. Good old TOTP with 6 numbers is still the best. You are not tied to your mobile device and there is no networking involved. Next best thing is WebauthN with physical hardware device. Smartphone based auth (SMS, NFC, push 2Fa) are incredibly susceptible to man in the middle given how easy it is to clone your phone.

[@C31c10n3]

​@@Runzi333 Remember the Linus Tech Tipps hack? Yep, they did exactly that.

[@xanderschwartz9864]

Bro really hit them with the “ain’t no room for gunslingers, we’re civilized now…”

[@Emmancy.]

You know the third guy loaded up on gold before sending that message 😂

[@MayumiTheKimura]

Dad Thor doing the "SNAP BACK TO REALITY" in the thum, lol

[@SpazzMaticus195]

Funny how the gaming cartels do the same thing the Mexican cartels would do in this situation

[@Tryton-A-Morris]

What do you mean

[@jasiahhaye8317]

@@Tryton-A-Morrisan example is the mexican cartel is killing anyone who is manufacturing fentanyl because it destroys their income.

[@ChmielTHE]

@@Tryton-A-Morris you dont f**k with market

[@stormjin2242]

funny enough, its likely not far from being the same cartel

[@Josu1v9]

@@SpazzMaticus195 That’s what happened to Los Zetas. The gov, special forces, and all the other cartels went together to eliminate them; All for being greedy and seeing only in short term.

[@NrdCool]

I can’t tell if that third cartel person was Lawful or Neutral Evil.

[@MakoKitten]

why not chaotic, since they're out for themselves?

[@PurplesttCoffee]

Seems pretty lawful, as in serving the long term interests of their cartel lol

[@anonymone453]

Seems pretty neutral evil to me. Gold sellers are basically scalpers, right? Businessmen making money in a scummy way, but it's not necessarily criminal or lawful. Besides, it's a luxury, not a need. Scalping medicine or food is definitely evil, but currency in a video game is hardly necessary for safety or life

[@KevinSecondWind]

They made a living converting the in-game currency into real money. They weren't just doing it for a fake currency lol. ​@@anonymone453

[@stevencurtis7157]

Gold farmers are the definition of neutral evil. Totally within the law, breaking a ToS, but also ruining the spirit of games. He was only acting in his best interests by reporting the exploit.

[@Know_Your_Rights.88]

The smack talk to the chronograph really cracked me up man!! “You’re embarrassing me”!!! 😂

[@KingDugan]

The third cartel understands the difference between "corrupt" and "stupid".

[@TAP7a]

Literally the only time that a free market has encouraged an entrepreneur to behave more ethically than a regulated market

[@azazelleblack]

bro doesn't know about real-life communism

[@handson4580]

@@azazelleblack "it will work this time i promise!" Every failed communist country wanting to try again

[@es-yv7mm]

@@azazelleblack bro doesn't know that communism isn't a regulated market

[@ARCAD3BLOOD]

Nah what exactly happened, is that a bunch of troglodytes occupied real hackers, and when they shot gold, they went crazy with it. So bro that had normal people on his side, swiped them out of the game. If they were smart, they could sell the same ammount of gold over time. So they basically could not do almost anything for years of income.

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

​@@azazelleblackbro doesn't know communism has never worked

[@broderoi3435]

Economics in a nutshell

[@Holier_cafe]

Truly an astounding work of art, 10/10

[@darturo454]

The idea that they were so greedy that they caused hyperinflation is actually so funny to me lmao

[@lulutango]

Dude who gave the method up is a real businessman. He knew what he needed to do to fix his market. It's smart lol but crazy how even they understand that there's a balance to it all. This behavior is a perfect example of why the government steps in to manage companies who monopolize- the truth is that these types of imbalances hurt everyone. Most of us don't have that lesson yet

[@slifer967]

The sad thing is that after watching this, I realize I was one of those people. I messaged blizzard about it because my pass was changed etc etc. they rectified the issue then banned me for 9 months for account sharing. This now makes complete sense. That was the final nail in the coffin for me to touch blizzard shit ever again.

[@shtelf2647]

Calling them cartels feels criminal 😂

[@giovannisilver9491]

Props to Thor for not only telling the story, but telling us how to avoid the issue if it happened again

[@bug5654]

Thor: Don't put the same password back in! Companies: Let's force password updates on our users every 6 months, and never let them reuse an old password!

[@ClokworkGremlin]

The frustrating thing, for me, is that we have KNOWN better ways to handle password generation for more than a decade, but companies are still enforcing the worse, less secure, rotating password options that actually CAUSE so many of these leaks!

[@bug5654]

@@ClokworkGremlin What in the correct horse battery staple are you talkin' bout, Willis?

[@timovandenheuvel9502]

@@bug5654 He's right, I don't know the exact numbers but a large part of people getting scammed is because of social engineered emails/texts/letters that tell you, you need to change your password whilst not realizing you're being scammed. And the problem is that it's incredibly common (about 6 months) that companies ask you to change it.

[@timovandenheuvel9502]

@@bug5654 Nvm my comment just noticed you said 'Correct horse' So I assume you agree

[@WingMaster562]

"oh you can re-use passwords, after 32th time that is."

[@The-R3d-M4ge]

A lesson learned for the restaurant industry is, 1 case is a coincidence, 2 cases is a problem

[@ngf5077]

Doctors do this with their salary. The American medical association lobbies congress to restrict residency slots. American physicians can not work until completion of a residency program. This has caused medical schools not to expand because they know residency slots will not exist for additional matriculates. There is no shortage of qualified people who want to be doctors. Numerous are turned away yearly after applying. This allows doctors to say ‘don’t want to pay my rate? Find someone else cheaper or die’ while knowing they restricted supply 😂

[@7F0X7]

Thanks for explaining this in an easily repeatable way. Dr. Ron Paul also talks about how the government subsidizes hospitals on a whim or according to size; essentially giving away tax payer dollars to those who need it the least. And this causes the smaller healthcare providers to go under because they can't charge enough to stay in business. Goes to show even a government measure to lower patient costs is still fraught with corruption. And that's before I even bring up the insurance industry and how the government lets providers charge ransom prices just *because* someone has insurance.

[@Iceechibi]

You'd think they WANT more doctors ya know to TAKE CARE of more PEOPLE god I fucking hate capitalism

[@cattysplat]

They do the same with airline pilots.

[@andrazprelec8263]

Cartel 3 to 1 & 2: It's nothing personal, it's just good business

[@BloodPlusPwn]

That wasn't snitching, that was business.

[@karsten69]

An enemy of an enemy is a temporary ally.

[@solaris9426]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend... for as long as our common enemy exists.

[@someonestolebigboi-imbigboi]

You ain't a businessman until you have to stop yourself from shooting your own foot

[@mossystonesubs]

Too much evil really DOES destroy evil.

[@matercan5649]

Real life schaffrillis rather than tamatoa was a massive jumpscare

[@Jaymalakajamal]

If the cartel isn’t busy selling drugs then they’re definitely playing WoW bypassing 2FA for gold 😂

[@kingnekogon]

Well, that's one way Chinese prisons actually make money. There was a whole ass report about it a while ago. Apparently it's pretty lucrative.

[@BluntforceJ]

He's not talking about those cartels

[@Ehh.....]

I honestly wouldnt be shocked if they were one in the same. Money is money and they want more of it. IF its anything like phone scammers they probably have a bunch of poor people they have hold and controller over doing that stuff for them. Diversifying your means of income is always a good idea when the main one is as volatile as something what they normally do.

[@jus__gra]

Seeing this short knowing I was there during the stream, bliss. What a feeling.

[@chrislashock4014]

That "Ohhhhhh shitttt" though

[@They_Call_Me_HeartFace]

They literally went full "Im into the EMPIRE business"

[@Litepaw]

It's the same kinda thing in any illicit trade. If someone starts doing some dumb shortsighted shit then it usually doesn't end well for them. I used to know this one kid from my area who started growing and selling weed and his own rx pills for waay cheaper than literally everyone else to make all the prices go down to a more reasonable level. Dude ended up first getting robbed and "visited" by a "legitimate business association of gentlemen with leather vests" and then snitched on by street level dealers who wanted the prices to stay high. That's why they call them cartels I guess.

[@MrRaja]

This isn't me snitching. This is me doing "Business" fix it gringo quick! Vamos! 😂😂😂

[@kylecabrera142]

3rd guy was like "he still got 3 stocks!"

[@THEONETRUEOVERLORD]

Mom can we have Darrel talks games? Mom: we have Darrel talks games at home. Darrel talks games at home.

[@CowCommando]

The real genius play by the third cartel would be to buy up all the worthless gold, turn in the competition, and then turn around and sell the gold after prices go back up.

[@ClokworkGremlin]

Plus Thor & Friends banned their competition.

[@cipherthevcuber]

the outstretched hands was Homer's spirit slipping into Thor "you little!!"

[@DjVortex-w]

The funny thing is that password systems can check if you are entering the same password. They don't need to store old passwords in order to know this, they can just look at what the hash of the old password is (or any of your previous passwords) and compare it to the hash of the new one, so no security is compromised. (Passwords are stored as hashes anyway.)

[@-Zerontek-]

"Snap back to reality” ahh thumbnail

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

Steve Bannon be angry that day

[@svenbtb]

I'm not a WOW player but I love hearing about stories from it. I wish I could like the gameplay because so much about the drama and the "lore" of the players and the game's history, like this incident, is so fascinating to me.

[@Nightstalker314]

What is most off-putting to you about the gameplay?

[@cattysplat]

When you realise an ingame economy entirely destroyed by bots, gold sellers, ingame prices and services entirely based on inflated gold prices makes the game unplayable normally.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

@@cattysplat Not really, unless playing the AH is your version of playing the game. Most forms of gameplay require little to no interaction with the economy - PvP for example, with the exception of buying enchants at the start of the season, which you could craft yourself with materials you earned yourself. As for raiding needing flasks and stuff, join a guild, chip in and get the stuff you need.

[@tckr0197]

You should never allow your employees to use the same password in the first place.

[@decimus81]

blizz working with gold sellers, what a suprise lol

[@sirdeadlock]

Essentially, this is the private sector making a plea deal with the public sector, to utilize a legal monopoly which will then shut down competition, where the complaint is that the compeition was saturating the market by doing the same underhanded tactics as they were.

[@Crazy_Sue]

When Goblin Gangs go to war, they go to the forums. XD that's the best part.

[@colonelblars9126]

when you get an infinite money glitch but forget to factor in inflation...

[@nicholaswilliams6475]

You know it’s bad when even the criminals are trying to fix it

[@Robot-Overlord]

Wish the government looked that far ahead.

[@brotatoto]

There's actually 4 gold selling cartels in this story. The 3 illegal ones, and Blizzard.

[@martymcfly88mph35]

Thank God he opened up paint, I wasn't sure I could follow otherwise

[@judet2992]

They did a Mansa Musa with the gold😂

[@DatTrashCat]

its crazy that people live day to day and dont understand why inflation is an issue, it took 3 teams to realize that, crazy

[@cattysplat]

Because 99.9% of people don't care about inflation until it arrives. Then they react. Human nature never prepares for the worst.

[@wesleyfeldsine7955]

I did something similar with starcraft brood war. Some dude was issuing the burrow command to larva, which would make them hatch into mutalisks. You could get 3 mutalisks right off the bat and fly at your opponents. Blizzard said it was a modified replay, so I gave them both compiled and source code for triggering the burrow command on a larva, and a logger to see it working in the replay, and I pointed to the exact line of code needed to be fixed, and explained how/why their code was buggy and suggested a fix. Several pages of the main post complaining about this disappeared off the blizzard forums within an hour. When I asked if Blizzard was hiring, as I know Drakken was hired, I was told to go to college. I found/fixed your(Blizzard's) code as a hobby when you didn't even acknowledge it existed, and *I* need to go to college? I don't remember if I even reported the "telling a hatchery to burrow, then cancel gives you 100min/gas and can be repeated for infinite resources" after their response.. Here's to being Thor's co-worker in a different life. :p

[@Swankyagate79]

I keep thinking of a hardened drug cartel member typing on blizzard forums

[@jjcoola998]

I thought the other one was gonna buy all the cheap gold until the price went back up haha

[@ZenoDovahkiin]

Gotta love competition.

[@Raikos100]

I love when the "bad guys" reach the good guys for help bcs a third "bad guy" is simply chaotic and ruining his business 😂

[@cattysplat]

"Some men just want to watch the world burn."

[@warrenwijayaratnam2684]

The great analogy of how Supply and Demand integrates the formal and informal economies.

[@CheesyChez421]

Thats the definition of hutzpah: the bravery of someone stealing money from someone and then telling the mint to fix the problem they caused so they can continue to steal.

[@heroclix0rz]

Cartels are what true free market capitalism looks like.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

Wait? You can put the same password when they ask you to change? Well... Good thing my computer illiteracy (or just the fact I'm a good law abiding citizen) made me more safe here I guess.

[@webbowser8834]

Depends on the site. Many sites have a requirement that you don't use one of your previous 7 passwords. Battlenet notably did not have such a policy.

[@davidallen234]

Depends on the policies set up within the system. It can be set up so that the new password isn’t the last 5 passwords used, for example. If they were smart with the 2FA, they would’ve done this.

[@ChronosX69]

When the bad guy saves the day. 😂

[@deluxe1of1]

When a cartel asks that you fix something you know it’s fucked up bad😂😂😂

[@Oldchannel827]

[insert something about Mexican drug cartel here]