Pistons Have Now Lost 12 In A Row | The Valenti Show with Rico

The Pistons losing streak continues to rise. #pistons #nba #basketball

[@InsidiousWeenie]

I just looked at the schedule, and they may only have 5 wins by the end of January. It's as if the sports gods themselves required a blood sacrifice for the lions ascent into greatness.

[@wolverinefangowings]

#WorthIt

[@yaboytroy357]

I think you need to include the last decade of Detroit sports in there to really show how much sacrifice was needed to prop the Lions up lol. I’ve always said Detroit sports has always had an exchange for greatness. 2008 was 0-16 Lions for Wings Championship. 2004 was 43-119 Tigers for Pistons Championship. 97 and 98 was Barry retiring for a Wings title. So on and so forth.

[@JK.Palomba]

Well the Lions just shat the bed for the 7th thanksgiving loss in a row..

[@commonsense3921]

Lions greatness?

[@Nastyrandy]

@@wolverinefangowings I know you’re happy the wings dodged that bullet 💀😮‍💨

[@garyweglarz]

Livers gets 23 minutes in his return from injury and goes 1-7 in a four point loss - while Sasser only sees the floor for five minutes. WTF is Monty doing?

[@sumit9803]

Don't forget Joe Harris not being in the rotation.

[@baisley2000]

I was a Weaver defender until this year. Only thing he has done has got the pistons out of cap hell but thats it.

[@Riqsuav1]

And it really scares me now, we finally got a #1 pick a few years ago, i was praying this would signal a turnaround. They look worse off now than before drafting Cade...

[@johnofmalta]

Isn’t that the worst level of hell? You’re terrible, you have maybe one keeper player, AND you’re in cap trouble. How you manage to “achieve” all that?

[@OFDProductions]

As bad as the Pistons are they still probably will get screwed out of getting a top 3 lottery pick again

[@jj47k.]

I feel for Detroit fans because the year yall get the #1 Pick after all those seasons of losing you guys get Cade lol he's a good player but with the lack of FA Detroit needs a bonifide generational talent like Wemby,Zion,Chet,Anthony Edward's players like that. And this draft you guys will probably end up with the #1 pick in a weak draft lol and then next year will still be bad and end up with the 5th pick instead of #1-3 in a 3 superstar player draft 😂

[@WHADDDD]

@@jj47k.this is so spot on it hurts

[@commonsense3921]

This going to be weakest draft in a decade.

[@crawford371]

Some men's league teams at the rec can give the pistons a run

[@evanbuchanan1006]

Circling back to this rant, post-season. I. LOVE. It.

[@rexjohnston6743]

Anyone here from through the wire?

[@MulliganSnicker]

Tom Gores looks like he runs Coney Island with snow in his nose

[@mach6893]

Coney Island would be a war zone if Two Fake Georgie were in charge of Coney Island.

[@charlesgilbert2054]

Pistons did it right but they didn't draft well. Killian Hayes over Haliburton? Terrible.

[@jamesb.kearney3338]

Forget Haliburton, could have had Maxey

[@michaelahurt]

@@jamesb.kearney3338 Stop it. That would have been a bat shit crazy pick. Maxey was a 6'3" SG who shot 30% from three. There's a reason he wasn't a lottery pick. Haliburton was very much in play though. He was certainly the guy I wanted.

[@jamesb.kearney3338]

@@michaelahurt Maxey going off lately. Prolly gonna win the East this year. Hali is always on loser teams.

[@killeh6083]

I wouldn't be mad if Cade demands to be traded or does anything idc.

[@servantmann71]

Cade is apart of the problem

[@Stoufiasavro]

Haven't won a playoff GAME since May 25, 2008

[@slawdog4685]

It's time for the GM to go

[@GSOF_Oven]

Mike this is one of the greatest Detroit Sports rants in HISTORY!!!!! THANK YOU for this!!!!

[@markwood3440]

So glad to see SOMEONE TELL IT LIKE IT IS. Some of these other podcasts, like that guy kool-aid or whatever he's called.He must get paid by the team, because he says you gotta be patient. I am to the point of APPATHY, really don't care. I saw Monte post game too, he had no passion looked like he was going through the motions. PATHETIC

[@anthonyyamz5381]

I absolutely HATE this team. It's an absolute shame.

[@michaelahurt]

Idk why. It's by far the most fun Pistons team in almost 20 years. Ausar is the most exciting player we've had since early Ben Wallace. This is the first time I've watched more than 5 games since probably 2008-09.

[@anthonyyamz5381]

@@michaelahurt if 2-14 is exciting to you, then I completely disregard any opinion about sports you'll ever have.

[@michaelahurt]

@@anthonyyamz5381 if you're measuring a young team by wins and losses then I'll completely disregard any opinion about basketball you'll ever have I'd much rather watch a 2-14 team with talent than a 35 win team going nowhere. That's why young teams rank higher on League Pass rankings than teams like Chicago. The Pistons have been in every game. They just can't execute in the fourth quarter. Which is what you'd expect from the youngest team in the NBA. But for casual NBA fans I get it. It is about wins and losses because they can only see the results and not the process. A casual fan can't appreciate Ausar Thompson's screen navigation or his timing on cuts or how Jalen Duren is a half a step higher in his drop and why that matters. I'm an NBA diehard though. The kind of person who watches New Orleans and Minnesota to see Herb Jones and Jaden McDaniels as much as Zion and Ant. I like watching young players as much as watching the very best players. Losing games is still fine for now. It's just better draft odds. I always saw us as a bottom 3 team in the east this year anyway.

[@sthannah78ify]

The starting lineup should be Cade,Ivey,sasser,duren and aussar. Why not. Screw it. The rest of the bums can play whenever

[@podunkest]

That's what I'm fuckin sayin bro.

[@Chopski64]

It's horrible. I have a bally subscription and I'm ready to cancel until the Tigers are playing in the Spring. I have been a fan since the 80's and it says a lot when I can't bear to watch them. 😕

[@jasonr8364]

Big problem when the highest payed coach can't win a game

[@joshuabeszczynski2803]

Never seen them this bad ever in my life

[@tradez401]

This restore has been really bad other teams that started their rebuild at the sametime as us or a lil later are all ahead of us with their franchises. Gores need to wake up and clean house in the front office.

[@matheusnavesborges2720]

Agreed that its been bad, but these other teams all had players to trade and get draft picks… We were beyond deep hole! But the 2020 draft were atrocious… and the love for the “high worker beef stew” its pathetic! The guy has no ofensive game and lack the atleticism to be a decent 4

[@LogicOverEmotion]

@@matheusnavesborges2720​dude…I swear you’re spot on. I absolutely cannot STAND this city’s love affair with Beef Stew. Forgive me for this long rant but I have to get it off my chest: Stew is at BEST a backup small ball 5 who plays spot minutes. At least in that role he could actually provide SOME value. He could get physical with opposing reserves, stretch the floor a bit, and spark the unit with his effort and “antics” (for lack of a better term). But there isn’t a single team in the league that would start him even with a gun to their head. When matched up against opposing starters all his weaknesses are magnified tenfold. He can’t create his own shot, has no post game, cannot dribble with any semblance of competence, can’t set a screen properly (which is why despite being a descent 3P shooter he’s NEVER utilized in the pick and roll), and sorely lacks the athleticism to be a rim runner or a lob threat like Duren. The only thing he offers on offense is the ability to make a wide open 3, and even his impact in that aspect is severely crippled because he cannot put the ball on the floor when defenses close out on him. He just shovels it off to his nearest teammate which immediately stagnates the offense and kills whatever semblance of competent spacing his shooting would theoretically create. And he’s also a below average defender. In sprite of his “hustle”, he’s averaging less than one “stock” (steals + blocks) and ranks SEVENTH on the Pistons in defensive rating. He’s far too undersized to guard opposing bigs and doesn’t have the leaping ability, coordination or athleticism to consistently disrupt shots around the basket. And conversely, he lacks the lateral quickness to keep in front of opposing wings and most modern PFs for that matter. He flat out isn’t remotely good enough on either end of the floor to be a starter in this league. Same goes for Killian Hayes, whose ceiling is a backup PG given his historically poor shooting efficiency and inability to get by anyone with his dribble drive, which severely hinders his ability to ever be a consistently effective playmaker in this league. The Pistons have had THREE years to evaluate these guys yet both of them have somehow already started double digit games in year FOUR of a rebuild and we’re not even at the 1/4 mark. The fact these two were their primary options at such critical positions shows you the level of ineptitude permeating throughout the entire organization. When you try to make bench players into franchise cornerstones, THESE are the results you get.

[@michaelpowell9152]

This has always been a REBUILD. Just becuz the process was termed Restore, don't make it true. Nice Marketing/P.R. ploy! The last time Restore was used was by the Lions, & their slogan, Restore the Roar LOL I had preseason belief this team could challenge for a play-in spot. The East is top heavy, but to make a run at a 9-10 spot was possible. Yeah the injuries have done us no favors, but we are doing ourselves no favors looking where other teams are in their rebuild compared to us. The gap doesn't look big on paper, but the evidence is what we put between the lines. As a lifelong Pistons fan, hoping they can turn this around & get Cade some help, not quick but in a hurry. JMO

[@michaelahurt]

To be fair that's primarily because Cade missed all of last year so our four best players are three second year guys and a rookie. And if we'd gotten Wemby I doubt you'd be saying that. Weaver only missed on one pick (Killian). Unfortunately, Cade just hasn't been anywhere close to what we'd all like. If you want to say he should have signed FVV or traded for CP to take some pressure off Cade, the way CP did for Shai and Booker when they were his age, that's fine. Although I think that's what Monte was intended to be. He's just been injured. If you took FVV and Brooks away from Houston like we've lost Morris and Bogdanovic they would still be be bad too. SGA is the kind of star Cade was supposed to be. He's also 25 not 22. And Orlando -- yeah I don't think they are actually this good. Their offense isn't very good and I think the defense is smoke and mirrors. It's not like Paolo and Franz are balling out. The difference between their defense and Detroit's is 1) FT luck (73.5% for Magic opponents on 27.8 attempts (2nd most) and 82.1% for Detroit's) and 2) turnovers forced (17.2; 1st vs 11.9; 29th) even though Detroit is getting more steals (9.4 vs 8.4) so I'm not sure how much of that is just luck.

[@michaelpowell9152]

@@michaelahurt You think its luck that Orlando is playing well so far this season? You believe that Houston is also playing better just because they signed FVV & Dillon Brooks? The hiring of Ime Udoka has nothing to do with their improved play? Our players & coaches have to be better. I have questions with some of Monty's lineups/rotations, but have to agree with him in can't use injuries & youth of team as excuse. There are areas we have to be better in to start seeing improvement & more wins.

[@Obrian81]

I remember people were jumping on the Playoffs bandwagon when Cade got drafted & they liked the Pistons rebuild better than Red Wings, Lions & Tigers...... I actually remember saying in my head, I wouldn't celebrate too early ppl!! So far, I've checked out! This is the worst Pistons team in my lifetime, Monty Williams did turn down the Pistons offer.. then Gores throws him the money$$$... Big mistake & I agree with Valenti.. Williams probably regrets his decision.. Sad & Pathetic!! Pistons have taken over Lions as the worst & endless rebuilds in Detroit sports teams!! What the F!! 😡

[@mach6893]

The Lions are actually doing just fine.

[@andrehorton4996]

What a mess troy weaver made and the previous coach before this one

[@joshuabeszczynski2803]

This team was dominating before those a holes showed up

[@thomasdonner2495]

What I do if I’m the Pistons for two drafts in a row, I trade every single one of my picks for the top pick if they’ll take it!

[@sageantone7291]

The only thing wrong about this is the fact that Blaha us the GOAT

[@michaelstein7510]

Even funnier watching this video a month later, after the Pistons just lost to the Jazz’s G-League team and the streak currently sits at 25 straight.😂

[@sb66516]

I can't watch the Pistons. I'm an 35 yr. Fan

[@Wake-up1776]

Can't wait to hear his take after the wizards blew them out

[@akoskovacs6830]

Heat proved us last season that you can get decent roleplayers from outside the league if you scout a bit. I'm not saying it would make the Pistons by itself a decent team but Cade+Aussar+some good roleplayers+a coach deciding to actually care and expect stuff from the players would make this team 5x better imo.

[@emmanuelmusik6371]

Thank you sir 🙏🏽

[@samb3396]

I put my Cunningham jersey off my wall and in the closet.

[@kevinwilliams855]

I bet don't make it to 15 wins this season

[@antdagawd68]

Pistons are unwatchable they need to clean house from top to bottom

[@tonyengardio8413]

Troy Weaver is Joe Biden of the NBA

[@petekayyceclosedduncan2077]

Sheeeesh.......

[@alexh8613]

I was trying to figure out what was going on, then I looked at their roster. Their starting lineup consists of two 22 year olds, two 21-year olds, and one 20 year old. They'll stink this season, but next season is their improve or it's a failure season. In two more seasons if they aren't a playoff team then it's a failure overall

[@apexlegend2255]

WHY IS IVEY NOT STARTING MAKES NO SENSE ONLY THE PISTONS WOULD BENCH HIM FOR KILLIAN WTF ARE THEY DOING

[@drazanz4598]

I agree with almost everything you said,just dont think that Bojan statement is true. Hope he leaves this Hellhole very soon and prove his worth.

[@markp8581]

Drafted KIllian Hayes LOL, he can only dribble well with one hand, takes away half his court on offense.

[@thomasdonner2495]

The only way to get this team better is to get lucky in the draft. And to do that is almost impossible. The way the draft is run.

[@michaelahurt]

Well that's the only way any team gets better. You get lucky in the draft. Or you can go out and sign a bunch of 28 year olds and win 30-40 games and have no future like we did for 10 years.

[@thomasdonner2495]

@@michaelahurt here’s what you do! My opinion If you have only five starters Right? - Soooo If they would take it I TRADE FOR 3 YEARS IN A ROW - ALL OF MY DRAFT PICKS FOR THE NO.1 PICK IN EACH DRAFT!!! - LIKE NEXT THIS OFF SEASON TRADE ALL PICKS TO WHOEVER GETS THE NO.1 PICK! In 3 Years I HAVE 60% OF MY STARTER STUDS!!! On to the Playoffs big time we go!! - 😎😎😎

[@Mark-oy1wv]

You know we’re bad when Charles Barkley is roasting our team on TNT. How does it feel people?? A once proud franchise has been the joke of the league for the last 15 years and this season is the lowest point yet. What a shame

[@joshuabeszczynski2803]

I'm done with this bulls*** team

[@LoyalOpposition]

Valenti looks like the White Monty Williams

[@thugwayjoepog8163]

ALSO @mikevalenti … not a peep about the Alien and 0-9 outta last nine

[@thetealmustang]

A lot of truth, and a lot of hyperbole at the same time.

[@user-hk3hl2kz4z]

They probably won’t win again until they play the Spurs in January. It’s sucks with the recent lottery odds update even if there was a clear cut #1 at the top of 2024 draft not likely the Pistons get the pick anyway 😢

[@Adam-um6iu]

It’s an extremely weak class.

[@hipowa909]

hire San Campbell......😅

[@joshuabeszczynski2803]

God awful Pistons team and I hate seeing this from my favorite team. Improve now or completely lose respect from everyone

[@JohnnyCage333]

It looks like the Detroit Pistons need to do what the Detroit Lions did and do a complete rebuild or tear down new headcoach new GM the whole thing.

[@stewlittle13]

The Pistons literally did that & sadly, it failed.

[@JohnnyCage333]

@@stewlittle13 They may have to do it again.

[@Megahustla313rd]

​@@JohnnyCage333I have been saying the same thing, Troy Weaver is similar to Bob Quinn, he's just a scout. Lions realize that and hired a real GM in Brad Holmes, Pistons need to hire Denver assistant GM Tommy Balcetis if they want to build a winning franchise.

[@mach6893]

In my lifetime, I couldn't fathom how Detroit could have a sports owner worse than Ole WCF Sr. Two Fake Georgie has accomplished just that.

[@mattm229]

Everything you said was right except don’t you dare include Cade Assuar and Duren as garbage

[@joshuabeszczynski2803]

F Gores

[@kevinwilliams855]

I can grab 5 guys at concessions that could beat this team 2 out of 5

[@joshuabeszczynski2803]

Gores needs to go

[@joshuabeszczynski2803]

What a effing joke

[@thomasdonner2495]

PISTONS LOSE 12 IN A ROW? I SHOULD CARE WHY? 🤔🧐

[@brendanhedges2891]

Pistons are the basketball version of thr Edmonton oilers

[@mikedabigfootUM]

Yeah not even close. There’s no McDavid or Leon on this team. Hell there isn’t even a Nugent-Hopkins or Hyman. HELL THERES NOT EVEN AN EVANDER KANE ON THIS TEAM ☠️

[@podunkest]

More like the Sharks, the oilers were good last year lol

[@Fivestarman87]

PICK FOUR PEOPLE FROM LOWE’S

[@JohnnyCage333]

The Detroit Pistons need to fire the head coach and start over.

[@Mike-qm7ry]

Ha.. The Piston starting 5 is all under 22 and they have a brand new coach. Hell yes that ass is going to get beat... Cade, Duran, Big Stew, Ivy and Thompson fit great 3 years from now.. Of course there is no patience by the Fans..😒

[@DetroitEast]

I say go after Jonathan Issac and Moe Wagner from magic ill give them bojan Wiseman Bagley livers two seconds and 2029 pick swap give up Killian and Burks for Caruso Cade Caruso Asuar Jonathan Issac Duren best defense in NFL with Ivey Sassor Ummde Stew Moe Wagner

[@Vsvstubbs]

Lol hell yeah

[@emmanuelmusik6371]

Can Monty step down ?

[@servantmann71]

Can Cade step up

[@podunkest]

@@servantmann71 bro he's more or less surrounded by trash, and Sasser should be getting way more PT, and Ivey should be starting over Killian, I'm shooting literally 28% on my career, Hayes, like fuck it at this point why not..? I agree he doesn't look good but I guarantee you you ship him off to a decent fit and he'll do leaps and bounds better, being in a dumpster fire of an organization has a massive impact on players. Especially ones that are still relatively young and coming off an injury like someone in Cade's position. It's a horrible spot to be in. If it feels this bad to lose as a fan imagine how it fucks with them, they ain't robots.

[@dewaynelance4130]

Amen Mike. So sick of fans making excuses for this every single year of garbage and embarrassment. Weaver is trash. I would never buy tickets to go to a game. Fans need to boycott these games. Enough is enough. Gores needs to fire weaver