TJet Swap Part 2 - Garrett G25-550 Abarth 124 Spider

[@kidoctane]

Is someone "hiding the body" at about 1:15 mins ??

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

Joseph A ... shhhhhhh...

[@housestark45]

Someone call the police

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

For the record, it's a wad of packing paper XD

[@kidoctane]

​@@PistonsAndPetrol Yes, why yes, of course......packing paper, it always goes into the attic. Your secret is safe here !!

[@efstathiosefstathiou3720]

I personally own a 2014 Fiat Bravo with a 140bhp MultiAir engine and now 240'000 km on the clock as daily driver. I do an oil change every 12'500 km (hint: use oil compliant with Fiat S2 spec), swap/clean MultiAir filters ond the the Banjo Bolt on the MGT1238Z every 30'000km. The engine still runs with its first MultiAir Unit and Turbo. At 180'000km I replaced the clutch and the flywheel. At 210'000km the ignition coils and throttle body. Aprart from the hoses (cheap materials, replace with silicon ones) the car is rock solid. I've seen some diaphragmas going south, but this can be solved by replacing the wastegate actuator (e.g. Mambatek with yellow spring for stock ecu). If you consider tuning a MultAir car for race track use only: 1. Start with a MultiAir Engine that comes with the GT1446 Turbo (MGT1238z is too small) and decide if you want easy max Power (TD04 kit) or a bit less, but in a wider band usable power (GT1446 upgrade) 2. Upgrade the camshaft to make it run better in the upper revs till redline (hint: also on TJET) 3. Replace any f***ing stock hose in the car, before it breaks before going nuts with solenoids a diverter valve changes.

[@Dbo3fly]

Going back through the vids. After a year of owning my Lusso, I began building enthusiasm for modding it. Now, I'm starting year 3 having gained a lot more understanding. This is awesome to see. I dont remember if you kept the car, but I hope it is still treating you well. John might get some 124 traffic outta me once I start looking at making power. Right now, it is a slow trek through then smaller addons. Wheels, shifter, exhaust (Axleback), and Hi-flo intake. Tax season is here. I wanna lower it, do some more light cosmetics. After that...its more power time. DOHC seems really enticing... Thanks for this series.

[@julienmalschaert5029]

Thank you for laying out all this ground work for the rest of the fiat community!!

[@NYFreeman]

Eddie, you need to get a 500 (again) and add it to the channel. You and John make owning a Fiat fun. Keep the good work.

[@potatochobit]

Ok, bro, winter is over and it's been 5 months time to get back crackin at it. It's been 3 years and I have not seen a single decent turbo for this car yet so I think I am just going to install a stage I tune and be done with it.

[@Cramer12]

Would getting the Boche ECU and getting it to work not be easier than reprogramming the stock one? I will be 1st in line for the TJet setup if some sort of kit comes to market. My 2013 Abarth multiair bricked a few months ago. Looking to replace the motor

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

Cramer there’s is a way. The Italians have been doing it for a while. They use the engine harness and ECU from another car with a plugin CanBus module. At the end of the day, this will be easier for anyone else that wants to do the same after the R&D is done.

[@Cramer12]

@@PistonsAndPetrol Im anxiously waiting. My Abarth will probably sit till then :(

[@potatochobit]

I've been waiting 3 years for a decent reliable bolt-on turbo kit to come out for the 124, bro. should I give up the dream or keep waiting? I just want a fun car that reminds me of my Rx7.

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

There's ton's out at this point. Look at Pure turbos. They make one for the 124.

[@cutdepiefails6596]

@@PistonsAndPetrol fck pure turbos, they are just laggy personality destroyer turbos.

[@DrDD-pw8wn]

"I think it's not going make a difference." It starts, that's funny. I'm pulling hard for you dude. I can't wait for the final product.

[@miralemnermina142]

Dude when are you importing an old school 124, Punto GT or a Coupe 20v turbo? Also pro tip for everyone with a t jet, you can get cams from a 1.2 16v engine and they are similar to most mild street cams

[@SYONiQ]

I’m fairly new to Fiats but fell in love with the Abarth 500s and 124s! I’ve been googling a good bit this past week on aftermarket parts for the 124s and haven’t come across many vendors selling thoroughly tested products..I’m so glad I came across P&P! So informative and entertaining! I hate not seeing more people get into the 124s as I feel like there’s so much potential for awesome builds like Eddies! I guess my question would be, where would you guys recommend getting simple bolts ons from? I’ve been getting the notion to steer clear of EC as well lol

[@ykx6542]

Nice job! I’m happy to share the damos file for Bosch ME 17.3.0 if John need it.

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

John has one DAMOS but as I’m sure you’ve seen, the quality can vary! If you like, get in contact with me [e-mail]

[@ykx6542]

Check ur inbox😄

[@ejwagner5487]

Agh this is so exciting!

[@robertmilburne4591]

Yes, this is so amazing!!! Thanks you guys

[@angelos2586]

Question i have a fiat bravo T-JET with 200000Km , i bought a stage 3 TDO4L turbo to upgrade the original one also installed a cold air intake and an upgraded intercooler also a set of cams from an abarth , when i take it to be tuned will the engine handle 260hp or will it fail due to the high mileage?

[@chrismccombe6961]

Hiya Eddie I was just wondering if you could give me some advice I'm looking at buying a 124 abarth spider I like to get it up to 240 250 bhp but I don't want it to have big turbo lag would like the power as linner as possible and would like your opinion which would be my best option

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

My black 124 from the early videos was exactly there. The 1752 does not have any more perceivable lag over the factory 1446 and it’s still my number 1 recommendation for anyone that wants a ~250 hp Fiat 124

[@chrismccombe6961]

@@PistonsAndPetrol OK thanks very much for the quick response like your videos too been quite helpful

[@NEWdarkdragongx]

HIM: 11:10 see you next week ME: OHHH YEAAAA DYNO BABY HIM NEXT WEEK: "silence"

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

We all got sick. Real life doesnt stop for anyone. We’re back at it this week.

[@NEWdarkdragongx]

@@PistonsAndPetrol yeah thats true... Glad to hear you're well again! Keep it up!

[@alfaromeoboosted]

I am getting ready to order the same turbo for the 4C. I just need John to install/tune it.

[@TheMrPastry]

Hey Eddie - I am moving back to Canada from the US and want to bring my Abarth with me. Do you know of any challenges at the border in doing this? Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards etc.? Thanks. Mark

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

Being a vehicle offered in both places with no real differences; I would suspect it’s should be pretty straight forward importing the car with your move. Welcome back!

[@TheMrPastry]

Thanks Eddie! I’ll let you know how it goes after it get it done.

[@o0Macgruber0o]

Any new need on the next update on ur car?

[@demondmorris7308]

would it be easier to buy a UK T jet head and UK ECU?

[@nikolac290v7]

Ma alla fine questo swap l'hai fatto o no ?

[@K03sport]

What does the "t" in t-jet stand for? I don't speak fiat. Can you grind 2 gaps in the end of the T-jet cams to simulate mm cams?

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

K03sport grinding the magnetic lobes could make it much worse. Not sure what the T stands for but they’re all part of the FIRE engine series. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fully_Integrated_Robotised_Engine

[@michelhadid]

Why no More videos? Loved the production on these. Hope your doing well, mate!

[@JNAMOTORSPORTS]

I’ve tried to call John multiple times for but don’t get a response

[@JorrC86]

Great project! Is the T-jet a direct injection motor or has it port injection?

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

JorrC86 it’s port injection like the Multiair. The lower portion of the head is identical.

[@DrDD-pw8wn]

What's up? Haven't sen anything from you for sometime.

[@Nebbia_affaraccimiei]

disappeared

[@angelos2586]

HI we would like to see how to change cams on a t-jet!!

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

That will be getting covered.

[@johncorona4337]

Anything new on this build?

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

Took a break for Christmas then had to focus on my real life work for a bit. We’re back at it this month finishing up the project and there will be a video shortly after 👍

[@johncorona4337]

@@PistonsAndPetrol Thanks! I found the transformation from Multiair to T-Jet fascinating, and looks surprisingly easy. Thanks again for the videos!

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

The MultiAir engine is essentially just another member of the TJet family which makes the conversion easy. It’s the ECU bit that can be tricky. Thanks for watching! 👍

[@Azzurra2k]

Hey Eddie, So is this T Jet setup and tuning something that Tork Motorsports at some point could come to the market or is this more of a pet project?

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

John wants to bring this to market.

[@gianlucacoscia5210]

Ohh interesting! I don't want to buy another Multiair brick😅

[@Azzurra2k]

@@PistonsAndPetrol ...I may need to start seriously considering an Abarth 124....

[@johnserrano2774]

Is this an off-road solution, or will it pass emissions?

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

It'll pass no problem.

[@daand12]

I think you should use 10w50 or 10w60 now. That's what we do here.

[@jasondriggers2759]

Why not swap in a Bosch ecu ?

[@Bosc089]

Put 1750 engine of Giulietta qv 😏🙈

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

So many engines, so little time!

[@Bosc089]

@@PistonsAndPetrol eheh i have the same problem Man greetings from italy

[@TheSaint491]

Yeah, than take turbo off and raise redline to 8000

[@janhutter5917]

whats up with the project?😊

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

We’ll be back shortly. I had to put off working on the car for real life and then COVID19 closed the border. I live in Canada. My 124 is in the USA.

[@AlbertManiscalco]

whats going on with the project?

[@XCSEDAN]

In another comment he mentioned hes stuck in canada and the cars in the usa, ronas fucked us all... even this project...

[@bakerbakernx]

Yeah but what would my dad say Eddie?

[@huntsbychainsaw5986]

I get some bucking at low speeds and partial throttle but I just assumed it was the ZF automatic transmissions choosing a gear to high and bogging the engine because it doesn't happen often and is usually quickly followed by a down shift.

[@lukausenicnik3009]

My european abarth 500 series 1 is a tjet and uses magnetti marelli ECU..

[@PistonsAndPetrol]

That’s interesting. What year is the car and what model is the Marelli ECU

[@Steven-rn1oo]

2nd

[@housestark45]

What happened to this channel guys.. Did he dead or something?