Pixar's TERRIBLE Brave Movie...?

Once upon a time this was Pixar's LEAST popular film. Touted as TERRIBLE back in 2012. So I wanted to look back on it with more of an analytical eye. We've seen some absolutely DREADFUl stuff in the past. And this is not as bad as that. But I do remember disliking it as a kid. So today let's delve through all the details, contexts and explanations as to why this movie was so hate. And to dictate whether this film deserves it's label as Pixar's TERRIBLE Brave Movie...
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...I thought this would be like an underdog movie in hindsight. Turns out I was equally as bored the 2nd time around. With more notes on how strange the pacing is... at least it's not The Good Dinosaur.

[@trinaq]

I've actually always loved this movie, and felt that it received an unfair reputation. Merida and Elinor's relationship was the heart and soul of the story, and watching them grow to gradually understand each other was heartwarming. I also admired that Merida didn't end up with any of her suitors, and chose herself.

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I completely agree, especially considering how very few good mother-daughter movies even exist. It felt very genuine to me.

[@dashysakusei4969]

I never even knew people disliked it. It was always one of my favorites.

[@hunterolaughlin]

It’s nice to see somebody talking positively about Brave and bring up its good qualities.

[@MaxKarmaCat]

Aroace princess!

[@jskywalker58]

i think its reputation might have to do with audiences going into expecting a different movie, i mean you cannot deny the marketing of the movie was pretty misleading.

[@olleselin]

I never thought of this movie as terrible. I thought it was pretty solid!

[@shhinysilver1720]

i also think so, but it was slightly underwhelming, not very large stakes at all.

[@bennie1079]

definitely one of my favorite animated movies of all time :)

[@aWERFRGT6545BGFG]

same

[@Cattasterfee]

Same. I always cry at the end loll

[@K0m30ng]

It was great, until the bear plot came in.....

[@Youarewhatyoueatsonic]

I actually didn’t know people thought it was terrible until like, a year ago. I really love this movie

[@allie_678]

Same!

[@NovaMaster375]

Fr I was surprised when I found out people hated it. I know it's not perfect, but idk if it deserves 'hate'. I legit had to scroll all the way through every comment to find a dude that actually says he hates Brave.

[@ushouldbeobsessedwithme]

YEAH

[@DAVID-ANDERSON]

I heard people saying Pixar is running out of idea's and now copying Disney films and comparing 'Brave' to 'Brother Bear' which people said 'Brother Bear' had a better story which you fill more emotion for characters.

[@FunFilmFare]

Not surprised. I remember it got a a bunch of mediocre reviews when it was in theatres .

[@nothingmatters825]

The ending and “mending the bond” makes perfect sense to me, here’s why. Merida sewing up the tapestry didn’t work at first because the “bond” in question is her and Eleanor’s relationship, not necessarily a physical object to be fixed but an emotional relationship. Merida calls her mother a beast, claiming that she was never there for her (which isn’t true, Eleanor just isn’t there for her the way Merida wants her to be). The physical representation of their emotional relationship, the tapestry, is then torn by Merida. So when Merida sews it back together to save her mother, it doesn’t work because only the physical tapestry is mended but not their relationship. Eleanor only transforms back when Merida apologizes, admits that her mom was there for her, and justs wants her back, mending Merida’s side of the relationship (it could be argued Eleanor mended her side by accepting that Merida doesn’t have to marry in the bear-mimes-the-speech bit of the film). I think the “sun hitting the tapestry causing the transformation” was a misleading visual. This also explains the common criticism of how Mordu could never mend his bond because his physical bond was made of stone. The physical representation of the bond doesn’t matter nor really needs to be fixed, its the emotional tear between mother and daughter or in Mordu’s case brothers and brother that needs mending. If Mordu could never fix that familial tear, then he can never reverse the spell and become human again.

[@rosemartasgaminghoard]

Thank you, I don't understand how this is so difficult for others to understand.

[@twilightchaosangel011]

I kept wanting to scream this during the video. "IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE TAPESTRY!"

[@rosemartasgaminghoard]

@@twilightchaosangel011 why do people always think that the tapestry was what needed to be fixed? Symbolism is so simple!

[@nataliecoronado4206]

@@rosemartasgaminghoard people's media literacy tends to be piss poor sometimes, if something isn't directly spoonfed to them then they just won't get it. Sometimes the curtains are blue for a reason.

[@Samew0001]

Yeah I thought it was pretty clear that it was the emotional bond that needed mended, and the sun just signified that they were running out of time. But they mended it before it was too late. Sun+tapestry =/= mended bond.

[@DanGamingFan2406]

The production for this one was an absolute nightmare, the director was fired halfway through do to Lasseter's shenanigans. And the new one had no idea what the movie was supposed be about. It's definitely not one of Pixar's best, but I still find some charm in it.

[@TheTrollingDice]

Yeah, it's crazy to see how much backflips the production did due to Lasseter's "decisions"... I would have loved to see the full "Brenda Chapman's Brave" ! (and for those of you who want to know what we are talking about, @eliquorice made a great video about it 👍)

[@K0m30ng]

Don't forget that Reese Witherspoon, the original choice of Merida left the production halfway through after she couldn't get her Scottish accent right so Disney recast her with Kelly Macdonald, an actual Scottish actress

[@bobi200samatar6]

I remember how the new director looked at a film about a mother and daughter, princesses being used as bargaining chips for kingdoms and the expression of soft and hard power in women, and then said it had nothing to do with gender. Like...what?

[@juanchoresultay2704]

@@K0m30ngprobably the only right thing they did in the movie, getting a real scottish actress

[@juanchoresultay2704]

@@bobi200samatar6BUT GENDER HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH FILM AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT!

[@chaoscreature4353]

Merida's mom turned into a bear not only bc merida called her a beast just before that but also bc she was being overBEARing. It represents how the mother would try to use brute force (emotionally) to get her daughter to be something she didn't want to be out of fear of her daughter's life being difficult due to being different. The bear being unable to speak is the way the bond heals. The mother didn't listen to her daughter and constantly talked over her or down her and only waited for her turn to speak in an argument rather than listening to her daughter. As the bear, unable to communicate, she's forced to listen to Merida so she finally understands her point of view.

[@RosheenQuynh]

I'm a little surprised and disappointed none of this was obvious to Dazz... Oh well

[@joshuawoodbridge6267]

OverBEARING... thats a pathetic joke, no offense inteneded

[@andreafraustoz]

good thing Brother Bear did better by utilizing First Nation spirituality on hostel Alaskan Ice Age

[@whalewolf7477]

​@@andreafraustozbrother bear is great however Brave did it very well. If not better.

[@captainhowlerwilson508]

@@whalewolf7477Brave definitely did not do it better.

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

I never thought of Brave as Terrible, but it definitely could have been better.

[@FuntimeFoxyfan26]

Yeah

[@GoofyAhhBoxy]

Apparently the movie was great and everything until the mom got turned into a bear

[@azulon435]

Thats what I feel is the epic failure, that you can tell it could, should and would've been a much better and epic movie

[@ey3z4ya]

​@@GoofyAhhBoxyTbh it really is that simple. They had a good plot building before that point.

[@TheTrollingDice]

@@GoofyAhhBoxy that might be linked to Lasseter firing the director (Brenda Chapman) at that point because of "creative differencies"...

[@garretschinkel2740]

I was shocked when I heard recently that Brave was not very popular, it’s easily in my top 5 Pixar movies. I really love Merida and her mom go from really close in the opening, to cut-throat angry with each other, and then learning to get back to seeing each other as family, much like how many parent / child relationships develop.

[@AsgardianQueen]

I don''t know why people thought this movie was TERRIBLE.

[@K0m30ng]

Because they ditched Merida's archery and marriage plot halfway through and turned into a "mother turned bear" plot. Even the original director, Brenda Chapman left the production (eventhough she still got story and directing credit) because of creative differences. But overall was it terrible? For me nope, it could've been better? Absolutely

[@AsgardianQueen]

I think this movie is better than Cars 2.

[@AsgardianQueen]

Really though, I'd rather watch any Pixar movie than Star Wars. I have a complicated history with Star Wars, it's had ups and downs and is a love hate relationship.

[@captainhowlerwilson508]

It’s not terrible, but it is certainly not great either.

[@julianbalenzano6432]

TERRIBLE is a VERY strong Word. This movie was my Childhood, and as a Bonus my Mum is Scottish, so we all got a good kick out of this when it came out. 😂

[@Marvelfanatic3658]

Ok

[@justsomeguyontheinternet562]

Ok

[@JuniorPsychonaut]

It's just Dazz clickbaiting. He's been doing it for years- calling every good/decent movie 'TERRIBLE' so people click to comment about how wrong he is- thus giving him loads of engagement And heck, usually when he makes these 'TeRrIbLe' reviews, he even says he likes the movies and it's not that bad!

[@justsomeguyontheinternet562]

@@JuniorPsychonaut Just because you disagree with him doesn't mean he's clickbaiting. Brave is a bad movie wether you like it or not.

[@sleep170]

@@justsomeguyontheinternet562You when opinions:

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

I've always loved this movie, the animation is gorgeous and the character designs aren't from the same mold that every Disney and Pixar character seem to come from these day. And as far as the story goes, I liked how it felt in between a fairy tale and the reality of what being a princess was actually like. I was really into Celtic mythology and history growing up and it was just nice to see a fantasy story in this setting.

[@captainhowlerwilson508]

I definitely don’t like this movie. So many Pixar movies were way better and more interesting than this movie. Toy Storys 1 to 3, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Ratatouille, WALL-E, Coco and Inside Out to name a few were just far better and had more nuance to their subject matters.

[@Rainbow_Bite]

I absolutely LOVE Brave it was my childhood I don’t understand why everyone hates it so much

[@K0m30ng]

Some people didn't like it because the plot changed direction halfway through from an archery and marriage plot for Merida to a whole "mother turned bear" plot. That was also the main reason why Brenda Chapman, the director left the production

[@juanchoresultay2704]

@@K0m30ngshe didn’t leave , she was replaced

[@K0m30ng]

@@juanchoresultay2704 Being replaced mean that she left dummy. She volunteered to leave the production for the better🤦

[@XoxoJules888]

Ikr

[@juanchoresultay2704]

@@K0m30ng I meant she was replaced during the latter production of brave! She left voluntarily at pixar after that

[@TabbyWithMittens]

I personally like the beginning where it was more focus on the Mom’s and Daughter’s relationship and how society or environment can affect that relationship. I get it might be cliche or annoying that a story focus on a girl rebelling against the world she’s in or how she’s different, but I think this did feel more grounded. Plus it was meant to focus more on the personal relationships more. I just don’t recall much movies around that time that did have that focus. But I feel like it got rather messy when the bear plot was introduced. Wasn’t the worse, but didn’t like it as much I wanted too. I can see how people like it overall though! I just wanted something else, but that’s just my personal preference. Think that’s why I ended up liking Turning Red when that came out later :)

[@juanchoresultay2704]

true and turning red this time had a sole woman director with an all female board in the team and it worked! (despite the scrutiny and poor cinema marketing timing due to omicron virus )

[@SpellboundWolf]

Merida is NOT a lesbian just because she doesn't want to be forced into marriage! She wants to be her own person & treated like a human being. She wants to be respected & listened to! I have been dying to freaking say that online since I first heard about those shitty articles when Brave was new. I wasn't able to find the right place until this great review. Thanks for a new video! I hate Brave's plot, but I love the visuals & characters. I want more of it someday. I want a GOOD sequel, with the signature heart of Pixar put into it. Or maybe a few shorts on the side.

[@Theawesomeninja_XD]

Finally; someone said it!

[@littlefishy98]

She does want to fall in love but obviously doesn't want to be forced. Find love in their own time as she said. Frozen also touched on that.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

​@littlefishy98 yeah, but Frizen also had Anna fall in love with what's his name at the end even though they to had just met

[@parkourfever4633]

4:25 Dazz: "None of these skills are really gonna come back". *Literally every skill proceeds to come back for the rest of the movie* Also, she does briefly climb up the stone rubble when escaping Mor'du in the castle ruins.

[@aaronskuse2207]

I saw this movie years ago. Didn’t think anything negative about it, other than not caring much since I was interested in other genres. Hearing that people outright dislike Brave was definitely a surprise though.

[@carrieakacarrington]

Same

[@DrewsterRooster37]

I hate movies motivated, by "She's a girl boss." But I never felt that way when watching this movie.

[@joshuawoodbridge6267]

Although turning RED was a bit like that imo

[@DrewsterRooster37]

@@joshuawoodbridge6267 I hated Turning Red. Not a children's movie at all Unless you're referring to RED (Retired Extremely Dangerous) in which case I despise you cause that movie is phenomenal.

[@joshuawoodbridge6267]

@@DrewsterRooster37 yeah... hahahha, sorry

[@mastergamingdude6191]

Thank you for saying this. I hate movies that constantly have to tell you that the main character is a badass. But ive never felt this way when watching Mereda. All she wants is to be herself whether its adventurous, goofy, or an archer. Not to mention the reconciliation between her and Elenoar. And even Mereda being able to swallow her pride and admit her own wrongdoings. Also Mordu is one of the most terrifying antagonists ive ever seen. Seriously, that fucker gave me nightmares as a kid.😅

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

​@@mastergamingdude6191but what exactly was Merida's goal? Was it just to do those activities? I never really understood what her motivation was.

[@lemoncardboard3530]

You'd be shocked how strong a parent can become while trying to protect their child

[@LTDextel]

Surprisingly funny. Emotionally riveting. Beautiful animation. Just because there are tropes doesn't make a piece of art bad. I cry at the end every time.

[@AlexanderOricoli]

70-80% satisfaction on Rotten Tomatoes is pretty good. This movie was actually my first Pixar movie I saw, so it’s more of a nostalgia feeling for me, but I do like this movie a lot.

[@K0m30ng]

I mean, it won the Oscar for Best Animated Feature so that's something

[@AJLom5]

But by Pixar standards, 70-80% means it’s bad.

[@AlexanderOricoli]

@AJLom5 But for movies in general that have a 48% average (58% for animation), 70-80% is alot better

[@jewelslarsen2118]

This was my favorite movie as a kid and still is. idc if it's not perfect or even bad, I love this movie so much. It inspired me to pursue archery at a young age and holds a special place in my heart.

[@tuliotonheiro]

As lots of people said, I really love this movie and Merida. I really think that you are being overly critical with this one. Sometimes a simple story is just as fine as a complex one. It's a very easy to serve meal, like fast food. Maybe, because this is the first strong female protagonist, they needed a simpler story to focus on making a strong girl strong. And I may say that I really love Merida.

[@resolution7482]

This movie was really immersive I feel. That's what made it so good to me as a kid. I do think that the side story about the king who torn his family apart from pride mixes in with Merida. It was later revealed in the story that the four kingdoms worked together to fight off vikings, and that lately their relationship was growing weak. The whole point of the marriage was a last effort to bring the kingdoms together and her mother didn't want her to ruin that. She taught Merida that a princess was supposed to put her pride aside and do what was needed. But I like that later in the story, she realized it was unfair and wrong for everyone. In conclusion, it made sense where she was coming from.

[@madpsycho6]

I love this film it's better than the Frozen franchise as a whole, that franchise is serious overrated.

[@XoxoJules888]

Ikr

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Although, I didn't really like this movie, I can definitely agree that it is way better than the Frozen franchise

[@WouldntWeather]

People can say what they want, but I still enjoy this movie far more than the corporate modernist stuff current Disney is pumping out these days. Ngl, this video feels more like complaining about things you personally didn’t enjoy about the movie rather than really making a constructive or well thought out critique explaining its flaws. Your reasonings just kind of feel all over the place and subjective. The points brought up about the movie in this video don’t really ruin the overall enjoyment I have for this film. The complains just feel sort of inconsequential like a CinemaSins video.

[@ShellySwirl]

I really love the first part of the movie and the ending.., Those are the scenes that make it a pretty good movie.. I've always been kinda bored watching the bear stuff tbh.... Terrible isn't the word I'd use for the movie though.. That's a bit over exaggerated..

[@liamcollinson5695]

Brave is better than most of the shit Disney makes now i actually enjoyed the movie

[@shadowwolfx_mega3250]

When I watched it as a kid I didn't see this movie as trying to push the feminist agenda. To me it was just about a parent and child not seeing things from each other's side and over time learning the value in the other's skills. That is why to me the scene of Merida sewing the tapestry worked since it was her showing that she appreciated her mother's efforts. Though one thing that always threw me off was at the ending when they only showed Elinor appreciating Merida's interests and failed to show Merida doing the same.

[@SomeUnnoticedAnimatorAndEditor]

How do ppl hate this movie, it's awesome 🗣

[@FunFilmFare]

Because they’re not kids. Pixar’s starting to suck if only kids like their movies (or adults who first saw their movies as kids). They’re depending on nostalgia bait and that might be bad.

[@SomeUnnoticedAnimatorAndEditor]

@@FunFilmFare I never knew smt called nostalgic bait existed

[@Great_WesternTVFan]

Badly done plot

[@SomeUnnoticedAnimatorAndEditor]

@@Great_WesternTVFan What

[@K0m30ng]

It's more so disaapointing than hate. There's nothing offensive about the movie but the story literally changed direction halfway through that made it less satisfying and less interesting

[@veaceslavstoianov4378]

I honestly liked brave

[@YouAreASadStrangeMan]

i know you stopped making them, but if you ever decide to continue the scene breakdown seires, could you do one for wreck it ralph?

[@SmartRascalStudios]

He already did.

[@thesalvegedgamer1786]

I know everybody is entitled to their own opinions but. I love this movie. And this video for whatever reason made me more upset than it shouldve. Great video. But i love this movie too much

[@crisisasp5396]

Wolves would have been a better fit, wolves had a lot of cultural relevance in scotland before eventually dying out in the region

[@hunterolaughlin]

I’ll admit I still have fond memories of this coming out in theaters over 11 years ago and seeing this in theaters. I know 11 years later, it’s not one of Pixar’s best films and the tonal shift in the story is very obvious due to the production troubles caused by John Lasseter firing the original director Brenda Chapman, but it’s not really a bad film. Sure, I can understand how the mother turning into a bear could break the film for a lot of people, but for it’s other aspects like its animation and it’s achievements for a Princess story like having a mother-daughter relationship be the central relationship and the daughter and dad having a good relationship without any arguments and the dad being supportive of his daughter’s desires and the Princess not ending up with one of the Scottish Lord’s sons at the end. It’s because of this film we’re starting to see more Disney Princess films not have a Princess end up in a romantic relationship like Moana. So regardless of what you may feel about the film, you can’t deny it’s positive influence on later Disney Princess films.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I do think this caused a bad trend though, as they seem to be afraid to have any romance in their movies nowadays

[@Ricky-Rat123]

It wasn't all that bad, but had a lot of missed opportunity

[@danielgiovanniello7217]

average Briton when talking about Scotland.

[@IAARPOTI]

She became a bear because she was overBEARing. Get it?

[@sirmagmo4710]

I feel like a lot of the issues Dazz has with the movie is simply a case of "it's not made for you"/"You don't get it".

[@Meamery]

Pretty much like the movie makes sense

[@vacation_medic]

As a conservative scottish male i can tell you that this movie is absolutely amazing and always has been. The whole argument about breaking tradition with gender roles is absolutely fucking stupid. I have a sister who is 5 and acts just like Merrida because she wants to be like dad. The whole point of the story is the mom understanding her child for who she is instead of trying to turn her into herself. Its not about breaking gender roles or making a statement about wemon being better than men. The men in this movie are portrayed as actual men, they are big, tough, and rough. And no where do we see them being portrayed as stupid idiots they are just simply acting like men, and the women are portrayed as proper women that worry about how they look in public unlike the guys who just dont fucking care. Merrida is just a tomboy character that wants to be like her dad and hes all for it but the mother sees this and is afraid because back then it was looked down apon for females to act like this and as a mother she wants to provide and protect her daughter and put her on the path to be as successful as possible. Which is actually what happens, after listening to her mom she understands the situations and changes her veiw on how to handle and deal with it. Thats why she is able to calm the clans near the end of the movie. Both her and her mother finally understand each other and thus they come out on top with personal growth and understanding. Its a great story and one that shows its ok to break tradition every now and then.

[@valenciasaintilus9573]

The hell…

[@cateering]

The movie was supposed to be about breaking gender norms, what’s so weird about that

[@haylee6645]

I genuinely adore the first half of the film before the stupid bear stuff comes in, then I'm just left feeling disappointed about what could have been

[@rimfire8217]

So this movie was directed by Brenda Chapman, The first female director in Pixar's filmographic history. She only previously ever directed one other movie, That movie was the Prince of Egypt. And John Lasseter fired her. . . . Some have speculated this was because of misogyny. However I disagree. If John Lasseter was a misogynist he would've LET HER COOK. (I've been sitting on this joke for so Long.)

[@fanaticalistic]

I hope this comment gets pinned, W pun

[@jskywalker58]

is there actually any proof about those allegations against lassester

[@TheTrollingDice]

@@jskywalker58 I don't think so but the sudden change of director did hurt Brave's production a lot. So much that it feels like your are watching 2 movies instead of 1.

[@ReesePierce189]

I love this movie. My mom says i look like Merida

[@parkourfever4633]

This was a strange video for Dazz. Maybe I'm biased but I feel like every single criticism he gave was either just completely incorrect, or it was technically valid but wasn't even a bad thing and didn't really matter a lot to the overall plot of the movie, and it was all destructive. And it may not be a masterpiece, but this definitely wasn't a bad movie. I absolutely loved it as a kid and still do today. 😁🏹

[@aceproductions43]

Fun Fact: This movie couldn't take place after around 600 AD since bears went extinct in the UK between 425-594 AD

[@g.d.graham2446]

To be clear, there's a great video by "eliquorice" which nicely illustrates that the main issue with this movie was its lack of consistent direction, namely due to them firing Brenda Chapman (the original director) in the middle of production.

[@K0m30ng]

Fun Fact : Reese Witherspoon was supposed to voice Merida but she couldn't get her Scottish accent right so she volunteered to leave and Disney quickly replace her with an actual Scottish actress, Kelly Macdonald. Kelly literally saved this movie for me

[@bighand1530]

I think Reese Witherspoon was also offered the role as Rapunzel too if I’m not mistaken. I know when it comes to voice work, Reese Witherspoon has been involved with 3 projects.

[@K0m30ng]

@@bighand1530 I don't know if that's true but even if it's true, I wouldn't even be surprised. Reese was and still is a huge name so make sense if Disney recruit her for several movies eventhough she has dropped out from some of them

[@AJLom5]

K-Mac is the only Merida in my book!

[@EvripidouM]

I think the main reason people didn;t like that movie is the bear plot. The trailer made you think you would see a completely different movie

[@wpk12]

Did we watch the same movie!? Brave has an amazing story about Communication, the fact Eleanor turns into a bear makes sense, and it lets Merida (who often then not got spoken over by her mother) speak for once, letting her mother understand her daughter better and see who she actual is as a person. The entire plot makes sense! And it's honestly communicated perfectly in the movie in my opinion. I feel like you were just overly critical on this one because this movie has its reasons for many of the things going on in it.

[@jhiaka9888]

I liked the first half of the movie with Merida vs her mom and showing the different values of each lady. The scene where Merida shoots for her own hand is brilliant, showing the power that the queen holds and how Merida turns to face her in the end was amazing. I think it really had a consistent plot up until the bear antics which is where they lost me.

[@user-dz9tt3qn9p]

Brave is NOT a Terrible Movie. It's My Most Favorite PIXAR Movie and it's My Childhood! 😡 🤬

[@user-dz9tt3qn9p]

It's also an Academy Award-Winning Animated Movie of 2012 🏆

[@rudrakshkamath2071]

WHATEVER, cuz there's NO way that I am watching it again!😡🤬

[@rudrakshkamath2071]

I REACTED and it scared the shit out of me. IT SCARED THE F*****G SHIT OUTTA EVERY HUMAN BEING ON PLANET EARTH!👺👺🤬🤬

[@rudrakshkamath2071]

Now can you please shut up and be Sirius now???🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@kwichris]

When I was younger, I went to see this film when it debuted in theaters with my Mother. Being a boy that often butts heads with my Mother, we both came out of this film realizing this touched on that dynamic of parent and child often not seeing things from the other's perspective. To this day, despite my mother hating all things princess, she really loves Merida. She is also Scottish/Irish and thought this was a very serviceable film in that regard. To me, I've now watched this film dozens upon dozens of times in the years since and always enjoyed it. To me, there are far worse Pixar films, even some that objectively are better but just didn't connect with me. Now this film was probably aimed at girls/mothers, but if a younger boy and his Mom came out of this film with a closer relationship and understanding of each other, this film did its job very well. Also, I always like some fun shenanigans in my animated movies which harkens back to classic animation from back at the start with all the whacky things going on.... it's just good fun for the sake of fun, which always makes me smile. Brave is a wonderful movie for me, plain and simple. :)

[@UnusualSandvichTF2]

This has to be one of your worst reviews ever. I’m disappointed. 😐

[@littlefishy98]

The only other thing i wanted in this movie was apparently she was supposed to choose the big blonde guy. It could've been interesting if they showed years later they ended up together and as she said "found love in their own time".

[@joshuagarbett]

Years and years ago about 13 to be exact I always used to slag this film off and say it was one of the most boring films I’ve ever seen But I hadn’t actually watched it because I lied However after watching this on DISNEY + from beginning to end my opinion has changed

[@IAARPOTI]

Congratulations, you know make your fans turn against you.

[@Mariofanaticanimations]

This movie should’ve gotten controversy for the Oscars winning that film cause this movie should not be brave enough

[@xxGibbyGamingxx]

13:11 bears in Celtic mythology were very common. Artio was a bear goddess. Women in bear skin. She is also the symbol for motherhood. Which is where they most likely got the moral of the story. Merida, being the daughter and Eleanor being the mother. Mother protecting her cub and a cub exploring the world. Also in Celtic mythology The bear god Artaois is linked to the warrior-king, Arthur. An if you think about it, the Native Americans and the Celtics were not that different in their beliefs and stories. Yes the movie was different from your usual Pixar and Disney movies but that is what made it good. When you all think its terrible. Maybe instead of pointing out why it was terrible. Maybe go learn about the mythology and life of the Scottish people. That’s probably where you all think it was terrible. You just don’t understand the Scottish stories and the people and what Pixar was going for. I have seen the movie 15 times and I will 100% disagree with you. Maybe you’re just not into Princess movies and women making their own decisions and choices but that would be a very far reach. Also this movie shows how tough Scottish women are and won’t take shit and they were warriors to the very end. Not matter what there family was like or morals. I still think it’s a good story, and it shows how the Scottish can be. I’m pretty sure everybody in the comments would agree. So I leave you with that. You have the right to your opinion and your view. All I’m saying is do your research and then share your thoughts and opinions on the movie. 🍿👍🏻🎥.

[@the_furf_of_july4652]

Not a fan of being convinced that something I like is bad, especially something as subjective as a movie

[@princesserika9899]

I really liked this movie when I was a kid, even the scene with Mordu scared the wits out of me (And it's a good thing). Maybe it's because I do also have a mixed relationship with my mom, some moments were good and some were about arguing and lack of emotional connection 😃 And also I like the Scottish and this movie's music 😁

[@supereddieman397]

Not again sure some people say it is terrible but I don’t think it’s bad

[@jazzydragon4498]

I watched this movie in theaters with my mom as a kid, and it felt a bit awkward because I kind of related to Merida's character. I was more of a tomboy and I picked up a lot from my dad. That dress scene where Merida says "it's too tight" but her mom loves her wearing it spoke to me lol. Say what you will about bringing up gender roles in stories, but that "be ladylike" is still pushed a bit for some girls. In 15th century Scotland, it was more enforced than nowadays so it's period accurate too

[@shiny_Smoliv]

PLEASE JUST LET US SCOTS HAVE THIS ONE THING

[@BunkerFox]

You're going to have Mel Gibson AND you're gonna like it!!

[@bighand1530]

@@BunkerFox While I didn’t dislike Brave, Braveheart is more up my alley.

[@fearful1139]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who actually enjoyed this movie. I did when it came out. Like it’s not crazy but it’s not terrible? Seems overboard. There’s been far too worse. This was nice for a change of things, fun, and sweet.

[@z-herb8006]

I think this film was great

[@brennan-the-python]

I don't subscribe to this theory but have you heard about the conspiracy that Disney made Brave and Pixar made Planes? The story goes that they came out as similar times, and the advertisers mixed up the Disney and Pixar logos. Think about it. Pixar making a princess movie and Disney making a movie that is practically Cars but with Planes? I'm sure it's not true but interesting to think about.

[@skywise001]

I never went to go see it because my friends who did were pissed about it.

[@kellswitch]

I loved this movie, it wasn't perfect but I love it. It was so rare to see an animated movie, a PRINCESS movie, were both parents are alive and the focus was on the mother/daughter relationship instead of a forced romance, and where the resolution was to listen and compromise. And the mother/daughter relationship was beautiful.

[@TickeyWickey4u]

I am shocked that there are people who dont like this movie

[@cauldron938]

Ok man. Is it terrible or not though?

[@deakensomoza3305]

So Dazz, what else Terrible Pixar Movies are gonna tell us?

[@Cheshiregrinn91]

I kinda love how the witch only knows how to do one thing. And that is bear which is now her solution to anything like a man with a hammer. 'You want to be s strong as 10 men? BEAR!' 'You want your mom to stop badgering you about marriage? BEAR!'

[@sober_katz]

honestly, i remember being really excited for this movie to come out when i was a kid. i still like it a lot to this day, and i'll never understand why it got a bad rep.

[@K0m30ng]

Most people criticised the movie for having a waste of a potential once the plot changed direction halfway through from Merida's competitive marriage and archery to a mother turned bear subplot

[@eeveefennecfox]

they took a trillion years on the hair that they didn't take the time to take the time on everything else to

[@cardboardbox5704]

*What I expected when I first saw the trailers and posters of this film: A funny animated fantasy film about a warrior princess who embarks on an epic quest across her kingdom to show her courage and change her fate while facing supernatural dangers based on celtic mythology. *What I actually got: "Turning Red + Brother Bear" set in medieval Scotland... Nice graphics and a cute mother-daughter relationship, but honestly, it feels just too empty, short and full of wasted potential. I was expecting something more like "Mulan + Legend of Zelda", with more adventure and fantasy stuff... I think that Wolfwalkers (a Cartoon Saloon movie) is what Brave should have been from the beginning, it has more emotion, fantasy and it didn't felt empty or short...

[@crptic9925]

The beginning was so good and then it just fell

[@PixilatedLives]

I absolutely loved this movie when I was younger, yet I would and still do always forget the movie and main character’s name

[@helloimro]

i'm so glad i'm not the only one who LOVED this movie as a kid and was shocked to see the internet hated it 😭

[@myyoutube7366]

This is what happens when you have no media literacy, but do know buzzwords

[@thoughtstorm543]

I refuse to believe that this movie could even be classified as terrible.

[@goldfishmentality]

I think this take was kind of generic. It has issues sure, but as a man I think this was a fantastic move for feminism, and a movie lots of people can relate to. If it came out today, I'd say it would be rather bland and "traditional", but at the time it was a new thing to say for disney. And the worldbuilding, characters, style, and scottish feel was fantastic. Not all movies from Pixar NEED to have some extra level to them either. It's a rather unfair expectation imo for every pixar film to be grand, as long as they have a strong quality to them, which I think Brave has lots of. Also a bit of a nitpick, but the "heavyhanded-ness" makes sense. The roles she so desperately wants to get away from is her ENTIRE life. The stakes ARE high because it will mean she has to live a certain way forever, and it's heavy-handed because it should feel in your face, claustrophobic, and important

[@Mr._Green]

I had no idea people thought this was bad. I loved it as a kid, we own a dvd of it.

[@K0m30ng]

I've seen the movie multiple times when it's on Disney Channel when I was a kid. I always get hype whenever a Disney movie is being played at Disney Channel for some reason 😂

[@leavemealoneplease583]

People hate this movie?

[@ey3z4ya]

Not enough people

[@firstpersonsnooter2519]

Me and my siblings used to always watch this when we were younger, and I thought it was pretty good.

[@daurydavis3983]

If you think this movie is terrible than you don't know what a good movie is

[@atsukana1704]

Fun fact in norse mythology will-o-the wisps were actually the kind of spirit to get you lost, rather than help you.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

Honestly I wonder what this would've been like if Brenda Chapman's original concepts and ideas hadn't been discarded.

[@acsargent1278]

This movie IS NOT TERRIBLE…. I don’t think you properly understood the parents or Merida and the relationship they have. Also you keep talking about gender roles like the gender roles portrayed in the movie arent realistic for the time. (Edit) after reading more comments it seems like I’m not the only one who thinks your opinion is a hot take… also they probably didn’t feel like Loch Ness monstering the queen for the movie. As I continue to watch this you keep saying more hot takes and just interpreting it so wrong. Mordu was not the whisps that lead Marida to the witches but, and it doesn’t reveal that at the end of the movie. After he died he becomes a whisp, he wasn’t the whisps earlier in the movie, I assume those are previously dead souls. Marida: “you’ve changed” *she is clearly happy to see that her mother has actually changed. Dazz: “how fucking dumb is that… do they think we’re so stupid that we can’t see that ourselves.” Like people don’t confirm things to themselves as a way to ground the new information.

[@cateering]

I genuinely feel like he’s just grasping at straws

[@Reagan-xi1pb]

This is NOT just a girlboss movie. Its about her relationship with her mother, mostly.

[@goose7215]

What a horribly over critical take. It's like you watched the movie without actually watching the movie. I never understand how people managed to miss the symbolism of the tapestry

[@NerdialYT]

I feel like you're looking too deeply into this

[@FunFilmFare]

If you were paid to look deeply into films you’d do it too.

[@NerdialYT]

@@FunFilmFare that's fair. But idk, this one is a bit of a stretch with what he says. But that's just kind of how I feel about it XD

[@cateering]

@@FunFilmFarebut some of the things he said were just bad takes and he completely missed the symbolism which was so obvious is hurts

[@kreiyu]

this movie was great. you're talking crazy talk.

[@rudrakshkamath2071]

🎶🎤Remember when you were young You shone like the Sun SHIIIIINE OOOON YOU CRAAAAAAAAZY (talking) DIAMOND!!🎶🎤🎶🎤

[@hey_bucklebob]

Honestly it just goes to show how good Pixar films have been that Brave of all films is deemed by some to be terrible in comparison

[@jondoe7036]

Lot of weird to just flat out wrongheaded points with this one. For just few examples, don't get how you reckon film pointing out its female protagonist would make sense for a film set in fifties, but not for one with a medieval setting (if not earlier, what with them supposedly having fought Romans), or constant complaining about miscommunication, when that is an intentional flaw with the central relationship and cause of the film's conflict, or missing the obvious way in which the story about the first of the four princes ruining his kingdom for his selfishness speaks to a lesson of maintaining unity over personal desires, which is what the arranged marriage between the clans stands for. Though the most ridiculous take here has to be this film being "anti-feminine"; Merida's interest in outdoor physical activities is never framed as masculine/unfeminine in anyway and if that is how you'd choose to perceive it, I think that says more about you than anything. It is simply something that stands in contrast to her mother's embodiment of more traditionally soft and graceful form of feminine power. Merida beating her suitors in archery challenge also does not stand as her "outmanning the men", so much as it is her openly challenging her mother for the first time. As for her "beating" her father in a swordfight, I would hardly call her blocking a single blow from Fergus and striking his blade and pegleg couple of times to drive him back a legitimate duel.

[@HugeHaddock]

Yeah. And its actual plot wasn't even about how Gender norms and traditionalism were stereotypically forced in Modern Media. They showed it how it was and is quite a lot, women were the ones who forced the gender roles more often throughout history. In many, many cases, it was the same gender enforcing its own norms onto others of the same gender. Plus, its not even the main plot like he said. The main plot was about how families interact, and how abusers can abuse even when not meaning to. And how it takes time and mistakes for them to get better. Not resolved with a happy song and dance where they suddenly become enlightened

[@JamesZ32100]

Brave is better than Frozen imo

[@nlinky5307]

Nah ice queen > bear queen (but not by a lot tho )

[@hitfasthithard]

I agree

[@JamesZ32100]

@@nlinky5307 Ice queen and her sister's bond < Bear queen and woodja archer daughter's bond

[@ratking679]

i’ll hear you out on this because i respect you, but i do like this movie a lot

[@ratking679]

i understand what you meant now

[@dogmanwes2790]

1:26 perfectly cut scream

[@bombdotcom2168]

I absolutely loved this movie growing up!! I was a big tomboy growing up, but I loved Merida because of how she was. She was a princess, sure, but she's also a tomboy who has a sword and is a master at archery who climbs mountains and rides horses- I can understand the points that are made, however I liked the story. Sure, Merida could be considered a "Not like other girls" kind of girl, but I don't see it as heavy as Dazz describes. Maybe I'm biased though since Merida was one of my favorite princesses of all time as a little girl.

[@Y5IAX]

It was good for the first 30 minutes but it just falls off when Queen Elinor turns into a bear

[@krissydiggs]

This review is almost bad enough that I want to come out of retierment and talk about how much I disagree with so many of your points. LOL (I'm kidding) But I do disagree with a lot of your points on the movie. I didn't really focus on the male vs female elements you really zero in on. But maybe because I'm not a guy, I feel less offended by it? I'm definitley not saying I think it's a good movie, but I really don't think it's that bad as a princess movie. At best it just felt like Pixar doing their own Disney impression. At worst, it's at least better than The Good Dinosaur or Elemental. All in all I found it to be a really nice idea about the relationship between a mother and a daughter and the ways that moms can pass down generational pressures while forgetting how they felt about it too. Like, especailly back then, women were just expected to shut up and be pretty, go along with it and repress everything that they are as a person in favor of tradition. And plenty of women were people with personalities and hopes and ambitions of their own that found those dreams stifled by rigid expectations. It's an easy story to relate to if you're a woman I guess. Also, there are definitely bears in celtic mythology and symbology but due to the nature of their irradication, they hardly stand to be the thing you think about when you think of Scotland. All in all I think people are way to hard on this movie. It's much better than the likes of Brother Bear and it's very pretty.

[@jamestolbert1856]

I found this movie to be pretty basic and mediocre.