Pizza Stone Bricks VS Steel (15% Cooking difference)

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In this video i show you this amazing 2 difference of cooking with two difference methods
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@rjs1955
@rjs1955 3 жыл бұрын
After working in pizza places that had gas 4 steel shelve revolving ovens and ones that had the standard gas pizza ovens with stone, the steel recouped heat much quicker and was able to make comparable pies one after each other. The stone ovens couldn't as the stones couldn't recoup the heat. Almost 10 years as the leading pie maker in NY.
@MrArtVein
@MrArtVein 2 жыл бұрын
Promote your spot G, tell the people where you at
@mchoffner8497
@mchoffner8497 4 жыл бұрын
For those of us who are trying to perfect our pizza, nobody shows us the way like Vito. So thankful for these valuable lessons in the beautiful art of pizza-making
@vitoiacopelli
@vitoiacopelli 4 жыл бұрын
❤️
@sambrower4237
@sambrower4237 4 жыл бұрын
True
@aliananzeh8387
@aliananzeh8387 4 жыл бұрын
Do you always use only the bottom heating element of the oven? At what temp you set it?
@janetn246
@janetn246 4 жыл бұрын
I was watching another video and the chef suggested that if you already have a pizza stone and want to switch to a steel, you can, even better, put the steel on top of your stone. The stone is like a battery back up to the steel.
@wurzelausc
@wurzelausc 4 жыл бұрын
1) "let's leave the steel pizza a bit longer in the oven, so the crust is nicer" 2) "The steel pizza bottom is more cooked than the stone one" Scientific test Italian style --- :-)
@rabenklang7
@rabenklang7 4 жыл бұрын
*lol
@dudakoff1000
@dudakoff1000 4 жыл бұрын
exactly lmao
@coco.combat
@coco.combat 4 жыл бұрын
was a reason to dislike this video
@morthifer
@morthifer 4 жыл бұрын
the steel plate pizza was already more cooked at 1st phase
@viethuongvothai686
@viethuongvothai686 4 жыл бұрын
Onigorom the steel was gonna win anyway. Base on science and evidence
@davidsommen1324
@davidsommen1324 4 жыл бұрын
Steel has a higher thermal conductivity than stone. So no surprises there. In a wood burning oven steel would probably become too hot, and burn the underside. For a domestic oven however, steel is great.
@NoahNobody
@NoahNobody 4 жыл бұрын
I also think stone will absorb moisture and cool it down. If you are doing multiple pizzas, subsequent pizzas won't cook as well because the previous pizzas will bring the temperature down, unless you wait long periods in between pies. You don't have that problem with steel.
@der_woe
@der_woe 4 жыл бұрын
Have tried the steel in my Ooni3 , the stone was much better. It seemed that there was a kind of barrier between steel and dough, even though it had almost 500°C it was almost pale after 2 minutes or so.Like there was a layer between dough/steel which prevented a good contact for heat transfer. I sent it back to the seller, and never regret buying a new stone which does the job pretty much perfect.
@MakeSh00t
@MakeSh00t 4 жыл бұрын
The taste of bricks are like in fire wood oven anyway....
@SuperDamny
@SuperDamny 4 жыл бұрын
@@der_woe Did you preheat your steel? How thick was it?
@BurkenProductions
@BurkenProductions 4 жыл бұрын
The stone is better though cos it will keep the heat longer than a thin steel plate.
@vivianmorresey
@vivianmorresey 4 жыл бұрын
I'm fortunate to have made a wood fired pizza oven and love it. I learnt over the years that for the pizza base to get the crunch it deserves , the temp on the pizza stones needed to be around 350C (660F)...which seems crazy hot, so I guess that is why fire based ovens work so well..and why the steel would be better for consumer ovens. It's not really about the stone vs steel as much as it;s about the fact the normal ovens can't get the heat like the real thing.
@genolocascio
@genolocascio 10 ай бұрын
Yes Im still deciding on steel for oven OR a 22" counter top pizza oven that GOES to 650. If stone is cooked on 650+ it would be better than the regular oven @ 550 - IDK
@gregbrunner599
@gregbrunner599 3 жыл бұрын
I went from stone, to cast iron to steel. Each improved the cooking finish better. The steel cut the time down from 10 on stone to 8 on cast iron to 5 minutes on steel with a better bottom finish with the steel. Steel for regular oven is the best outcome
@MrArtVein
@MrArtVein 2 жыл бұрын
I graduated to cast iron last year I guess it's time to upgrade to steel
@gregbrunner599
@gregbrunner599 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrArtVein you will be very happy with the steel plate results
@irishee1
@irishee1 2 жыл бұрын
isn't cast iron 99% the same content as a pizza steel? that time difference is huge
@imanh9193
@imanh9193 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrArtVein I tried the stone and screens but not the steel. To me the best is pizza screen that has holes. The heat is directly touch the botton and crisps in 2 minutes. Screens are best to handle , cook and sorage. They are light and cheap. I bought 2 of them . I oil the screen a little bit using brush ,load the streched pizza dough on the screen , put ALL toppings together, do another pizza on the other screen , then I cook 2 pizzas together, I put one on the lower rack of oven and the other on the middle rack because my oven is not wide enough to put them side by sude. Then I switch them according to need after checking the bottom of puzzaz. and get them even higher if i want the bubbles to darken. Very easy to handle , clean and store and no need for the peel , just handle the screen wearing kitchen gloves. Try that before buying steel.
@DGRWPF
@DGRWPF Жыл бұрын
what thiccness do you guys use for steel?
@itsmederek1
@itsmederek1 4 жыл бұрын
The bigger difference would be the second or third pizza you make on the same sone/steel. The steel will make them all the same whereas the ones from the stone would be less and less crispy as you continue to make pizzas. This is because the heat in the steel is replenished much quicker due to higher conductivity.
@ptwotwo2055
@ptwotwo2055 10 ай бұрын
i found this as soon as i bought a pizza stone!!!! I cooked one in a skillet one on the stone the base was so much crunchier, now I'm going to make a pizza steel that fits perfect. thank you for putting your time and effort into these videos Vito much appreciated!!!! my pizzas are getting better every time.
@jg769
@jg769 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this. My pizza stone cracked on the grill yesterday. I think I’ll try switching to steel.
@OGGEEZERLIVE
@OGGEEZERLIVE Жыл бұрын
Hello Vito. I have a Ooni Koda 16 Gas Oven. Do you recommend using the Pizza Steel in that rather than the Pizza Stone? I've learned a lot from you thru the years. Big ups!
@laser00
@laser00 4 жыл бұрын
my grandpa was a tiger-ace in italy during WW2, after the tiger was hit by an aircraft, it blew out the entry hatch where the crew entered and exit the tank. He took it with him and since then our family is making pizza on this german tiger steel. Bellissimo
@pcmacro
@pcmacro 4 жыл бұрын
strange story lol
@smokeskull
@smokeskull 4 жыл бұрын
Italian tank 8 speeds reverse and 1 speed forward
@rabenklang7
@rabenklang7 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I am glad the war was at least usefull in this case.
@prosserd
@prosserd 4 жыл бұрын
is his name Alfredo Carpaneto? the only Italian WW2 tiger ace -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHLLd4aBhKx5bpo
@garethzbarker
@garethzbarker 4 жыл бұрын
Wow
@82ndSbabba
@82ndSbabba 4 жыл бұрын
First of all, after 2 hours in a oven 2 objects will have the same temperature no matter their material. What changes is the speed at which they get there and the speed with which they lose heat. Stones have a lower thermal conduction, so they will heat and cool slowly, whilst steel has a high thermal conduction hence it will heat and cool way faster (as you noticed). For the same reason steel will also transfer heat to the pizza faster than the stone, so theoretically it should cook faster on the steel, but the stone is a porous material, therefore it draws and absorb moisture from the dough. The 2 things kinda balance each other out, so there really is not that much difference. The advantage with the stone is that you can open and close the oven door many times without affecting its temperature, while the steel slab will cool and drop a few degrees (not that it really makes a difference for the average Joe). By the way you cannot use an infrared themometer to measure the temperature of different materials, because of the physical principal it uses to calculate the temperature. You must use a contact thermometer, or just not use it at all because in this case it is in fact useless (again: after 2 hours they have the same temperature).
@comfymoder
@comfymoder 3 жыл бұрын
Not true, the steel will have a lower temperature in a domestic oven because it radiates the heat it absorbs faster than the stone. The steel maxes out at around 450f whereas the stone should be around 600-650
@eliyahusvocalcoaching
@eliyahusvocalcoaching 4 жыл бұрын
Another very important thing the steel has over the stone is how quickly it pre-heats. I've used both and the stone usually takes about an hour to get to a working temperature whereas the steel takes at most 45 minutes.
@madthumbs1564
@madthumbs1564 4 жыл бұрын
How's it compare to clad with aluminum?
@jaxxbrat2634
@jaxxbrat2634 4 жыл бұрын
Bricks are not stone..different density
@DanPetrePhotos
@DanPetrePhotos 4 жыл бұрын
Get some fire resistant gloves then heat up the steel on gas cooker to max temperature. Even faster and hotter. After cooking recharge the steel plate on gas cooker.
@DanPetrePhotos
@DanPetrePhotos 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaxxbrat2634 pretty much the same specific heat.
@VXIOW_TTV
@VXIOW_TTV 4 жыл бұрын
These videos make my whole day better.
@asbjrnfossmo1589
@asbjrnfossmo1589 4 жыл бұрын
"Cannot eat two pizzas by myself"... You don't even need to hold my beer.
@TheMabes69
@TheMabes69 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I'LL BE RIGHT OVER, VITO LOL
@jua7265
@jua7265 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the camera operator was thinking at that moment… 😞
@DiskoKDiskoL
@DiskoKDiskoL 4 жыл бұрын
4:44 a little bit of the mozzarella... A little bit of olive oil on the chees... on the mozzarell... on the pizza
@luudest
@luudest 4 жыл бұрын
Surprising outcome! Thought stone would turn out better. Thanks for this experiment 🙏
@codyshin8469
@codyshin8469 4 жыл бұрын
He left the steel one in longer and claimed they were in the same amount of time. He shouldve took them both out at the same time. Stone is always better.
@davidsommen1324
@davidsommen1324 4 жыл бұрын
@@codyshin8469 "Stone is always better", what's your evidence for that? I have other experiences, I use both stone and steel.
@maniac4141
@maniac4141 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidsommen1324 bricks absorb water. So, the brick is "expected" to absorb the humidity in the dough and cooking it faster, making it crunchier.
@davidsommen1324
@davidsommen1324 4 жыл бұрын
@@maniac4141 That maybe so in theory, but only experimenting will tell you if that is what really happens. At these temperatures, to me it seems also plausible that the water just evaporates upward and that the blazing hot stone does not 'absorb' much water, as it would evaporate out of it immediately anyway. Don't get me wrong I prefer brick in really hot ovens like wood fired ovens (I have a big one in my backyard for use in summer) but in my experience for the domestic oven the underside comes out better on my pizza steel. I have both a pizza stone and pizza steel and on the stone the underside is really undercooked, especially if you cook many pizzas successively.
@maniac4141
@maniac4141 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidsommen1324 I dont get you wrong, though.... In the end of the day, experiment shows otherwise.. But do you know what troubles my mind? If brick does not absorb the water necessarily, why is there a difference between a pizza cooked with a cordierite brick and a saputo one.. Where does saputo get its popularity from? My own answer today is, that I believe the Steel is better than brick, only at low heats. I guess the Results would change in a high heat oven around 450 Celsius.. If not - "why brick ovens are such popular? Where did they earn their popularity from" is a question to be answered, in my humble opinion. I would love to hear your comments about it. What do you think?
@Willabear0826
@Willabear0826 2 жыл бұрын
I'm learning so much from your channel! My husband loves pizza and I'm enjoying trying to improve the art of making pizza. I've tried the poolish method and will soon try the biga method so I can compare which is better. I've purchased the stone bricks as you recommended. Question: how do I clean them, and is there anything I need to do before I start making pizza on them. Thanking you in advance for your response.
@technowitchjune
@technowitchjune 4 жыл бұрын
one other thing to mention, im unsure if it was because of improper use but my father went through like 4 pizza stones, they kept cracking. the durability of pizza steels is better for domestic ovens
@stuartgladwin7875
@stuartgladwin7875 4 жыл бұрын
they will crack if they are moved or handled while still cooling down.....they are good but fragile when still hot and susceptible to big or sudden temperature changes
@jcgarcia1931
@jcgarcia1931 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Vito! Once again, solving my pizza related conundrums... Steel vs Stone. My stone cracked recently but now I know what to replace it with. Steel is Real!
@КириллСтволов-ъ2м
@КириллСтволов-ъ2м 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Gorenje oven. I turn on the top grill to the maximum (275 C) and convection. An hour later, the stone has a temperature of 320-340 ° C. I put the stone on the second shelf from above. I can send a photo)
@juanete69
@juanete69 4 жыл бұрын
You have to take into account that IR thermometers don't measure well the temperature of shiny surfaces such as metals. You need use different settings for the emissivity.
@michaelcutaia6380
@michaelcutaia6380 Жыл бұрын
My biggest question is did you temp the stone and steel after the cooking to see the temps of each? My stone drops a good 25% after a cook and needs a lot of recovery time.
@remitournier2526
@remitournier2526 4 жыл бұрын
I use flat cast iron, pre heated on a gas stove (really hot!), I put my pizza on it while still hot, then put in in the oven on the highest rack just under the grill. I find it mimics a real pizza oven best!
@madthumbs1564
@madthumbs1564 4 жыл бұрын
OMFIG: You're using tech from the Great Depression-era and you think it's relevant today. Aluminum was once more valuable than gold. ;-)
@tmccarthy27
@tmccarthy27 4 жыл бұрын
What is your timing with both?
@harshilshah3965
@harshilshah3965 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question.... Is it okay if i take cast iron plate 5mm thick and put it in the oven... Will the plate get damaged or will it change its shape... Will the taste of pizza will change.... I have a pizza oven with 3 coils.... Pls share your experience
@vizigr0u
@vizigr0u 4 жыл бұрын
If anyone is interested in a pizza steel I made mine buying steel plates at a local shop for 30$ and a bit of work (sanding and seasoning). For this price I got 2 8*16*3/8" giving me 16*16*3/8" (40*40*1cm) So much cheaper than most options online and you can get the size and thickness you want! I found a guide about homemade pizza steel on a forum called pizza making, and I really recommend it, I'm happy with my pizza steel plates!
@madthumbs1564
@madthumbs1564 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried a professional aluminum sheet pan? -Consider the thermal properties of aluminum vs steel. I think they'd pay for themselves.
@danemmerich6775
@danemmerich6775 4 жыл бұрын
How did you season your steel plates?
@garylester8621
@garylester8621 2 жыл бұрын
I just cut me a 14'' round by 1/4 '' thick steel plate. I still need to season it but can't wait to try it. This video came along at the right time for me. Thanks' Vito.
@shaolin21
@shaolin21 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure which steel I should buy. The 10 mm or the 6 mm thick one. Is 6 mm enough for baking 2-3 pizzas in a row? Will it contain enough heat or is it required to preheat 10-20 minutes between the pizzas? The 10 mm thick is heavy (10 kg) and takes longer to preheat so it is maybe only a good choice for 5-6 pizzas in a row. What do you think?
@Suriprofz
@Suriprofz 4 жыл бұрын
Leaves the one on the steels longer and says "we do them the same time" but steel is better for the bottom xd
@wraith657
@wraith657 4 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@reenpompeen882
@reenpompeen882 3 жыл бұрын
Steel is more craunchy
@dhanushrulez1
@dhanushrulez1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol exactly 😝
@suchwork8024
@suchwork8024 4 жыл бұрын
Thx for not being afraid to share your knowledge about pizza, you're the best! Greetings from germany.
@Tomasz_Piekarski
@Tomasz_Piekarski 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of knowledge did he share in this particular video? How to open an oven or what?
@NettiGaming
@NettiGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Vito do you have any tips on how to care for my new pizza stone I've brought a new one today and I want to make sure I'm caring for it properly.
@operator5677
@operator5677 Жыл бұрын
After reading the comments the best option is steel for conventional ovens and if wood fired pellet grill use stone?
@guitar81sb
@guitar81sb 4 жыл бұрын
In the end it boils down to heat conductivity and and heat capacity. While both depend on on the type of material, the latter also depends on the mass
@TheJcrandazzo
@TheJcrandazzo 4 жыл бұрын
The stone pizza was taken out sooner than the steel one.. Thats why the difference.
@SS-bp8yq
@SS-bp8yq 4 жыл бұрын
My Pizza Steel is amazing! it made a huge difference in my quality of pizza making.
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I was just watching Vitos video and reviewing the comments ... our family has a Friday pizza day so I’m making pizza from scratch on a weekly basis... would you mind sharing for me which brand/model steel pan you use and at what temperature in your oven... pizza recipe would be a bonus also lol Thanks in Advance, Adri
@SS-bp8yq
@SS-bp8yq 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy I use Artisan Steel .25" thick purchased on Amazon. I set my oven to 550 and heat the steel between 45 - 60 minutes. I use Vito's Neapolitan Style Dough Recipe.
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 жыл бұрын
S Such great .... thank you so much for sharing
@SS-bp8yq
@SS-bp8yq 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy you're welcome!
@inocenciotensygarcia1012
@inocenciotensygarcia1012 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to cook the pizza tomorrow, and I didn't have a stone. I found two in my backyard and they look like the ones you have. Thank you for showing us this tip.
@canadiantree2000
@canadiantree2000 4 жыл бұрын
Steel is hands down better than stone. Aside from the South dead it is virtually indestructible it retains heat just so much better. I've been using a quarter-inch thick baking Steel since 2013 and I've never gone back since.
@zorantesic
@zorantesic 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Vito since two years i make my pizza on a copperplate .....i know copper is very expensiv.....but .the results are incredible and unbeliveble good copper never lose his fiancial worth as a solid material ...try it and you will be satisfied the heat is running into the dough...the copperplate what i use is 400x400x 15 mm thick the taste is also different....incredible good...and you need only 50 min to heat up the plate on 253 celisius best regards from a german scientist
@mockupguy3577
@mockupguy3577 4 жыл бұрын
Vito, I adore your videos. If you don’t do it already you should host pizza sampling events demonstrating the difference between different doughs etc.
@harshilshah3965
@harshilshah3965 4 жыл бұрын
Hello....I jst love your videos they are jst amazing...you are an inspiration for me...can i know what kind of steel is used in pizza steel...is it any kind of special material or a normal steel plate would work...pls share some info
@capsman4747
@capsman4747 4 жыл бұрын
After making about 50 plus pizzas at home from scratch and using thin stones, thick stones, steel plates, aluminium plates, and steel plates with holes, at 500 f, my best results are with a 16 inch holy plate. Love your videos Vito
@lyrixxx
@lyrixxx 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by holy plate? Where can I get one?
@capsman4747
@capsman4747 4 жыл бұрын
@@lyrixxx , it's a pizza pan with vent holes sold everywhere, almost, check online
@lyrixxx
@lyrixxx 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
@Fishy_dub
@Fishy_dub 2 жыл бұрын
Can I put a steel pizza stone or a Brick pizza stone on a direct flame? I’m building a very easy and cheap fire pit wood oven pizza and I need choose if just buy a patio stone think 2 inches very hard to break from a fire or a pizza stone. Probably on direct high fire flame brick will crack, maybe steel no?
@d4vidd
@d4vidd 4 жыл бұрын
Metal will always win at home, at lower temperatures around 250-350°C. Another important aspect is that you use much less energy to preheat, you basically only need to preheat the oven, not the oven + stone (20-25 mins vs 40-45). A regular metal grease-catcher that is included with every oven is perfect. Turning it upside down helps with sliding the pizza, and using a baking paper makes it even more managable and therefore the pizza requires less flour to move around (you slide the paper not the pizza).
@bellamaldonado
@bellamaldonado 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing the steel vs stone. I have used both and also found the steel cooked the pizza better.
@sniperdoc8404
@sniperdoc8404 4 жыл бұрын
@vito iacopelli: Thank you so much for posting these on youtube. You have inspired me and helped me to be a better pizza maker (for my own benefit). I am German and live in the United States and for about 6 years now, I've made my own bread and feel I've gotten quite good at the craft. I love traditional Margherita Pizza and through your videos am learning every day and really enjoying the craft of making good pizza. So, thank you so much for showing your craft and expertise to the world. Something I found... using a pizza pan with the holes works much better if some semolina flour is spread on it before the pizza is put on the pan. It seems to really help the crispiness even more. Made my best pizza a couple of days ago. So proud. :)
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 4 жыл бұрын
I use semolina with a dusting of bread flour on top. It keeps the semolina from sticking to the crust but doesn't allow it to stick to the peel which flour alone does since the dough is wet. Tastes much better IMO.
@sniperdoc8404
@sniperdoc8404 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenmore01 Yes. For sure. I think since semolina is also a bit thicker, I think it allows more moisture to escape from under the dough...? Maybe? The pizza pan that I have does have holes so that definitely helps. But, I also noticed the crust underneath was crispier.
@vitoiacopelli
@vitoiacopelli 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@fussyrenovator7551
@fussyrenovator7551 4 жыл бұрын
How do you cope with the semolina going all over the bottom of your oven when you slide the pizza in? I have the same pan with holes.
@sniperdoc8404
@sniperdoc8404 4 жыл бұрын
@@fussyrenovator7551 Hahaha I am very careful when I move the pan around. xD
@kevinbrowne1278
@kevinbrowne1278 18 күн бұрын
I’d be happy to eat either one! Look great!
@nov2312
@nov2312 4 жыл бұрын
If we cook pizza direct in pizza oven without any thing like steel or marble. Direct put pizza in to oven? Better steel or direct in oven???
@rainerrain9689
@rainerrain9689 4 жыл бұрын
Always better to use steel than nothing , its what creates the crust.
@Aidan.17
@Aidan.17 4 жыл бұрын
One thing ive noticed cooking pizzas in oven is bottom rack pizza bases are always crispiest. I think its cause they cook slower and can stay in the oven longer without the top being cooked?. I tried your 8 hour fermentation method and the pizza base had a lot of flavor almost too much but was too crispy cooking them as I normally do. I'm yet to try your twice bake method but will give it a shot next time i make 8 hour fermentation pizzas.
@limpiaalfombrasrugdoctorch7730
@limpiaalfombrasrugdoctorch7730 2 жыл бұрын
Time of cooking?? At 250 Celsius? Ty
@sandrogrima
@sandrogrima 4 жыл бұрын
Ciao Vito. Using a combination of a pizza steel (mine is 3/8" thick) and the broiler you can get a cook on your pizza somewhat similar to a pizza oven. place the steel in the top 1/3 of the oven...heat it at your oven's max temp...turn broiler on high...wait a few minutes and then cook your pizza on the steel. you'll need to experiment a bit as to how close you place the steel to the broiler because different ovens work slightly different. once you get the setup right you'll see amazing results considering you're using a home oven.
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I was just watching Vitos video and reviewing the comments ... our family has a Friday pizza day so I’m making pizza from scratch on a weekly basis... would you mind sharing for me which brand/model steel pan you use and at what temperature in your oven... pizza recipe would be a bonus also lol Thanks in Advance, Adri
@sandrogrima
@sandrogrima 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy check this out kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3iVeWygbLGrndU
@dannydangelo762
@dannydangelo762 4 жыл бұрын
Question: I wanna use my bbq to cook the pizza. Should I use steel or stone ? Any thoughts?
@jua7265
@jua7265 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve used both. Requires experimentation because of uneven heating. I think I prefer steel. Also baking stones are all different. Different properties and thicknesses. The steel will come up to temp much faster, but you still have to allow the grill to throughly heat up and that will change in the summer vs winter.
@architect1994
@architect1994 3 жыл бұрын
A very useful video, many thanks.
@stephenkayll5241
@stephenkayll5241 4 жыл бұрын
Before my Ooni Karu arrived I used a pizza stone in the oven, turned to the highest setting on the top shelf for about 30 minutes, 5 minutes before putting the pizza in, I would turn the oven off and turn the grille on its highest setting, guarantee a great pizza,a game changer if all you have is a conventional oven.
@76kite
@76kite 2 жыл бұрын
I thought a lot about buying pizza stone or pizza iron. But I like pizza iron more and more. Thanks for the video
@cmasc966
@cmasc966 4 жыл бұрын
I agree and if I recall correctly the steel doesn’t get as hot as the stone or brick but he conducts heat better to the pizza.
@84radecki
@84radecki 7 ай бұрын
Nice ! Thank za porównanie !!! Lubię chrupiąca i wlasnie zamówiłem blachę 😀 teraz wiem że to dobry wybór 🤩🙂
@yalimhassam6174
@yalimhassam6174 3 жыл бұрын
i have a pizza oven with stone inside. the crust is by far better on the stone than steel. i have tried both.. stone is just perfect. My oven is a flame oven with the stone in it. Pizza is just sooo good and crust crunchy.
@davidnorris8724
@davidnorris8724 2 жыл бұрын
Do they taste different?
@iVinx
@iVinx 4 жыл бұрын
Vito, where can I find the pizza dough recipe? In the video you said i can find the link in the video description, but there is no link for it. I am interested for exactly this dough recipe, not any other (you have a lot pizza dough recipes in your videos).
@cheshkat6321
@cheshkat6321 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of cast iron for home pizza. Love to watch your dough technique. Been making homemade dough and pizza for years but my dough shaping is weak. I will practice your way.
@madthumbs1564
@madthumbs1564 4 жыл бұрын
Aside from a grill pan/panini press; cast iron has no room in my home. You're just wasting the environment and your money on outdated crap.
@rabenklang7
@rabenklang7 4 жыл бұрын
@@madthumbs1564 I like my cast iron, why do you hate it so much?
@JFPriest
@JFPriest 4 жыл бұрын
@@rabenklang7 He is an EcoWarrior..Trying to make Pizza in a Solar Oven...
@rabenklang7
@rabenklang7 4 жыл бұрын
@@JFPriest well, that is somehow understandable. ;-) I must admit, since I watched this video, I have seen pizza steel plates, which claim, that the use a steel mixture with a higher heat cunductivity, than normal steel. But I think, this is marketing bogus. Stainless stell would be usualy 3 times worse. A test with pure aluminium would be nice, it would be 4 times better. I can preheat cast Iron in a blaze on my induction stove, but aluminium not, so i am not inclined to test it myself.
@GIBKEL
@GIBKEL Жыл бұрын
Have you done both, one above the other for a boxing effect? Apologies if you covered this already. Cheers Vito!
@abubakarmustapha7186
@abubakarmustapha7186 4 жыл бұрын
When you cook the pizza what is the temperature usually and how many minutes it should be in the oven? hoping for ur response .. thank you ..
@mchoffner8497
@mchoffner8497 4 жыл бұрын
sorry, not Vito replying here, but basically, get your oven as hot as possible. As for time? Depends on whether you precook, then finish, or all-in. Gotta just keep an eye on it, and "mindmeld" with the dough to sense when it is telling you it is ready.
@abubakarmustapha7186
@abubakarmustapha7186 4 жыл бұрын
@@mchoffner8497 thank you
@vitoiacopelli
@vitoiacopelli 4 жыл бұрын
Max temperature
@abubakarmustapha7186
@abubakarmustapha7186 4 жыл бұрын
@@vitoiacopelli i want to make pizza for business .. but i wanna ask if how many tablespoon or (in grams) of yeast, salt, sugar, cups of oil and cups of water will i put in 3 kgs. of flour .. hoping for ur response .. thank you
@Vandan9166
@Vandan9166 4 жыл бұрын
you did put the pizza back on the steel for another few seconds, did that make a difference?
@juanete69
@juanete69 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of steal are you using, inox or carbon steel? Carbon steel is more conductive and radiative.
@CB-fv4vv
@CB-fv4vv 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a granite chopping board for £10 and it works perfectly. I put the oven in grill mode and the granite board close enough until it gets very hot. Then I carefully move the hot granite board to the middle position and pizza base gets crispy. Thanks for the video.
@Emivioricomex
@Emivioricomex 2 жыл бұрын
Is granite better than pizza stone?? How long does it take to bake the pizza? Do you pre-bake the dough ?
@CB-fv4vv
@CB-fv4vv 2 жыл бұрын
@@Emivioricomex Not sure if better, but it makes a decent home made pizza. It usually takes 3 to 4 min because of the oven, only reaches 250 degrees. Yes, I get the dough first with tomato until it raises and then take it out put stuff on it and get back into the oven until done. The good thing about it is than you cook the bottom to make it a little bit more professional, but I reckon that it is a non perfectly made pizza because of the oven, but at least the best you can get from what I have.
@Emivioricomex
@Emivioricomex 2 жыл бұрын
@@CB-fv4vv thank you for the reply
@KowboyUSA
@KowboyUSA 4 жыл бұрын
He handles the pizzas like an artist making a masterpiece! ** Arrivederci to my pizza stone! Hello to a new steel !
@TheMabes69
@TheMabes69 4 жыл бұрын
He can handle my dough any day, damn.
@SK3564
@SK3564 2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see the crust at the end How long did you precook the pizza for? My oven reaches around 230°C so I'm assuming my pizza stone should reach similar temperatures as this one Should I always let the pizza stone preheat for at least 2 hours? I left it for one hour today and I was wondering if that's the reason why it didn't come out soft and crunchy
@GiC7
@GiC7 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Vito, you are the best.
@caldoyle1572
@caldoyle1572 2 жыл бұрын
I have recently subscribed to your channel and am enjoying it a ton. For folks seeing you for the first time, let me say this guy knows his pizza. POOLISH!!! If you don't know what it is--listen to Vito. Also--great tip I have not heard from ANY other pizza vid--precook your pizza a little before adding toppings. That gives the very best result. Point 3--pizza steel is the way to go. I had a stone. Now have a steel. Much prefer the steel, especially with an in-home electric oven. A real pizza oven gets 6-700 degrees or more. My electric tops out at 525. The steel gives that little extra heat transfer that gives an excellent crust. Thanks Vito
@vitoiacopelli
@vitoiacopelli 4 жыл бұрын
PIZZA STEEL OR STONE?
@hannya29
@hannya29 4 жыл бұрын
steel, can you make video on vegan pizza?
@seanwysocki5886
@seanwysocki5886 4 жыл бұрын
Stone looked softer to me. I would still go stone
@KSwwa
@KSwwa 4 жыл бұрын
Vito, but which one was more crunchy? should the stone pulls moisture out ?
@usafan96soren20
@usafan96soren20 4 жыл бұрын
@@hannya29 except for mozzarella pizza is vegan...add a vegan cheese (or no cheese) and here you go vegan pizza.
@GustavoBadilla
@GustavoBadilla 4 жыл бұрын
Stone
@ernestb.2651
@ernestb.2651 4 жыл бұрын
Do you cook with the fan or without the fan?
@rmarasa628
@rmarasa628 4 жыл бұрын
How long was the first cook? 5 min? 10 min?
@hugeackman7524
@hugeackman7524 4 жыл бұрын
We bought the BakingSteel in 3/8" and it has changed the game for home cooked pizzas. We are going to try it on our cowboy grill this weekend. Best purchase
@garethzbarker
@garethzbarker 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to suggest that all these great pizzas you make for these videos could be donated to the homeless. It's a great feeling. Love your videos. Thanks for the help.
@eduard070044
@eduard070044 4 жыл бұрын
I have an electric oven with stone and the maximum temperature he rises is 350 C degrees. Please tell me what temperature is needed to make a good pizza?
@ElectroLemon
@ElectroLemon 4 жыл бұрын
You can make an amazing pizza using the stone. But u need to experiment with your oven and dough. Rack position matters. For me , placing the pizza at the bottom of the oven produces the best result. Also try to add a very small amount of sugar which you will not taste in the dough but will make a difference in browning the bottom of the pizza in a home oven.
@The_fappening
@The_fappening 4 жыл бұрын
Electro.Lemon i prefer honey for this job
@ElectroLemon
@ElectroLemon 4 жыл бұрын
@@The_fappening I never tried honey with pizza dough , but don't mind trying and see if it yields to a better result.
@danielknutsen8253
@danielknutsen8253 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vito! Awesome content. When i cook pizza on a stone in a normal oven, should i place the stone on the bottom og at the top? Have seen you do both
@karlvella7627
@karlvella7627 4 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for everything. Karl from Malta
@roxyu3384
@roxyu3384 Жыл бұрын
Can you test how the 4. and 5. pizza in a row comes out? I would be interested very much.
@HouseMafiaMusic
@HouseMafiaMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Vito ! Could you tel me what is the correct weight for a dough patton ? For the moment mine are about 250gr
@mclovin8739
@mclovin8739 4 жыл бұрын
I have a pizza steel and I use it for all my baking, I get perfect bread and no more soggy bottom pies for me :) A kitchen essential.
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I was just watching Vitos video and reviewing the comments ... our family has a Friday pizza day so I’m making pizza from scratch on a weekly basis... would you mind sharing for me which brand/model steel pan you use and at what temperature in your oven... pizza recipe would be a bonus also lol Thanks in Advance, Adri
@mclovin8739
@mclovin8739 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy hi I'm in the uk so I got mine from pizzasteel dot com their's are 6mm thick steel and is fairly heavy, I put the oven on at the highest temperature for at least 20 minutes then turn it down a bit as I put food in, I usually pre bake pizza bases for a few minutes before putting on toppings and return to oven. Bread seems to cook quicker on it as well. Its all about experimenting to find out what works best for your steel, oven and the food your cooking. As for the steel shop around, read reviews, figure out what size is best suited for you, are you going to cook 2 pizzas at a time most of the time etc. If you're a home cook then its well worth getting one.
@mclovin8739
@mclovin8739 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianaDiaz-cu1syFor recipes have a look on vito's channel and also chef John has a good recipe for pizza base dough as well, thats where I started.
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy
@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again... I will check out that site & look...if there is any specific models or further tips or advice you could give me about the pan that would be helpful it would be most welcomed. I love watch & learn from Vito and his enthusiasm ... wish he was my neighbor lol. I’m soon to receive a new oven and so wanted to purchase a new pizza stone or alternative ( I’m doing my homework looking for the best choice for the best result/outcome of a home made pizza in a home oven situation.
@mclovin8739
@mclovin8739 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdrianaDiaz-cu1sy have a look at BakingSTEEL channel as well, they have loads of videos worth watching, hope you post videos on your cooking adventures 🙂, I love watching ordinary people cook (non youtube stars)
@munirfernandez7555
@munirfernandez7555 4 жыл бұрын
hi vito, how are you? what do you recommend if doing this on a charcoal bbq, wsm 22" to be exact?
@jesusmusulman5398
@jesusmusulman5398 4 жыл бұрын
I love it! Can you tell us if the pizza bussiness is good?? Thank you
@cooper895
@cooper895 4 жыл бұрын
In all of my travels I have never seen a pizza shop go out of business.
@madthumbs1564
@madthumbs1564 4 жыл бұрын
The ingredients are cheap AF, the pizza ovens are expensive AF.
@quentinpage5523
@quentinpage5523 4 жыл бұрын
Yes very good test,I have a metal one and it’s good. Thanks for video sir
@oscarfreitasjr2830
@oscarfreitasjr2830 4 жыл бұрын
Witch dough did you use on this vídeo? Poolish ? Thank you @vito
@SecretMailBand
@SecretMailBand 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos! Your lessons made me love neapolitan pizza and I bought a little pizza oven to make a good pizza - love it!
@dheckman1
@dheckman1 5 ай бұрын
The reality is, for home, you're only cooking 1 or 2 pies. So, stone qorks great if you preheat it with the oven to 440. The steel makes the process simpler. BEST is to put the pie on a ventes steel pan and bake it in your preeheated charcoal grill about 3" above the grate for 5 min, turn, and 5 more. Start at 450 but the move the fire to the outside qhen you put in the pie. Perfect!
@matthewjeffries4621
@matthewjeffries4621 2 жыл бұрын
Love all your videos, homie. Thank you!!!
@aslan7411
@aslan7411 4 жыл бұрын
This guy has such passion i love it
@imanh9193
@imanh9193 2 жыл бұрын
Nice experiment . For me the best is pizza scrreen with holes . Its best for home ovens.
@sh0a1b
@sh0a1b 3 жыл бұрын
What are the stones / bricks called? I am trying to locate in the UK. Thank you.
@nanoano88
@nanoano88 Жыл бұрын
Are these bricks made out of cordierite like normal pizza stones, or something else?
@deg00gleurself91
@deg00gleurself91 4 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to know which is better? Pre heat the oven for two hours, then lay a palm on each one and see which one hurts more!!!! I say the steel transfers heat much faster than stone!
@madthumbs1564
@madthumbs1564 4 жыл бұрын
I ain't wasting no 2 damn hours for some stupid test! Look up the thermal properties of aluminum and copper.
@gypsism
@gypsism 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of steel is that actually? Can I just use a thick steel plate? How about corrosion?
@brozbro
@brozbro 4 жыл бұрын
I use an 18X18 porcelain tile from home depot for $3. Used it for years.
@thebigdrakos
@thebigdrakos 4 жыл бұрын
great tip, Thanx
@marceloarnez1491
@marceloarnez1491 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope your porcelain tile doesn't have lead or resin filling in it like those cheap tiles Home depot gets from china
@brozbro
@brozbro 4 жыл бұрын
@@marceloarnez1491 It doesn't.
@Famo59
@Famo59 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Vito on showing the difference in cooking surfaces.. Bon Appetite 👍🤓🍷🍷
@TheKnightDrag0n
@TheKnightDrag0n 4 жыл бұрын
If you pre heat both for 2 hours, they will be the at the same temp, a better question would be which on heats faster.
@timb8095
@timb8095 4 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing the steel, you could see it cooling down just as quickly when he had the thermometer on it just with the doors open
@grannetia72
@grannetia72 4 жыл бұрын
I would go for a thicker piece of steel, then there will be more energy stored in the steel and the cooking will be quicker and the bottom will be perfect. Well perfect for home oven, of course. :)
@andrieslucian
@andrieslucian 4 жыл бұрын
You are awesome man. You made me, for the first time in my life to make pizza dough and make pizzas. I want to open my pizza restaurant hahahahaha. love it. Regarding the home oven, do you use it with the ventilator on or off? Thank you
@daniellmiller
@daniellmiller 4 жыл бұрын
Temperature aside, the porous nature of the stones allows steam to escape from the dough much better than the steel which is too dense.
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