PKA Debates the Ukraine War

[@PKAClips]

Who’s right about the Ukraine war?

[@indianakuda2520]

My mom

[@indianakuda2520]

My mom

[@SOUNDWAVEPR]

Among us is right

[@belphegor8072]

Hittler

[@F11ch]

Not Hutch

[@SIX6SIXer]

Merle Haggard died 8 years ago Hutch. He didn't perform at the RNC...

[@ChiTownOriginator]

Wow 😂😂😂😂 lmfao

[@TexasGreed]

Mama tried damnit

[@AquaStockYT]

The fact that Hutch equates imperialism to nationalism is highly concerning disingenuous language

[@Cheese-ho2ui]

or he just read the literal definition you overly biased bafoon

[@condor237]

We live on a global scale, they’re effectively the same

[@SlermmMcderm]

They’re literally the opposite numb nuts one wants to keep to and focus on themselves and the other wants to inject themselves into everyone else affairs 😂 on a global scale it’s even MORE pronounced of a problem like what the fuck are you talking about lmaoo get a refund for your degree

[@psychzach1588]

@@AquaStockYT tiny hat style

[@Lonestar1017]

I mean nationalism could def lead to imperialism, I mean look at Russia

[@deadmemes1824]

Hutch saying taylor is part of the smallest demographic when it comes to political options just tells me how loud hutches echo chamber is because talor is the most based logical person on the podcast lol

[@FlipTrackz]

People like Hutch would be surprised how much of the further ends of the right are for universal healthcare.

[@24kNick]

fr taylor is the closest person to a normal working american

[@TexasGreed]

Yep.

[@chriznew1695]

💯

[@LukeIngels]

Taylor’s views make the most sense to me

[@mlgquilava624]

Hutch is so brain dead

[@jamesmorrison7989]

He’s just like most partisans, which is sadly most active voters. He will do whatever the Dems tell him to.

[@psychzach1588]

Average uninformed voter who thinks they know everything.

[@EnduroDreaming]

@@jamesmorrison7989And you will do whatever Trump tells you so what’s the difference? You’re all exactly the same as the ppl you hate.

[@F11ch]

average NPC everything about him screams 10 booster shots

[@jamesmorrison7989]

@@EnduroDreaming incorrect. I don’t even like trump. I disagree with republicans on more than I agree with. So the difference is hutch will tow the party line while I vehemently disagree with Republicans on plenty of things. I don’t vote down ballot like an npc. I research the positions of every candidate and vote for who I like most. Which on average probably is about 30% democrat, 20% independent, and 50% Republican. In fact, I think they shouldn’t even allow down ballot votes and they shouldn’t put which party someone belongs to on ballots. Either you’ve done your research and you know who you’re voting for or you’re a literal robot checking one box because it’s easy and you want your team to win.

[@Summercamp1sland]

2:05 no it’s not, the definition of nationalism is exactly what Taylor was saying not the slander Hutch yapped

[@AquaStockYT]

Hutch described nationalism. Hutch is highly disingenuous here and it elucidates the nature of marxian propaganda which quietly attempts to shift the goalpost towards their philosophical end of history. Anything that isn't a global end to capital markets must slowly be made more and more radically charged. Nationalism is dangerous because that word, you know who else called themselves nationalist? The bad guys in WW2!

[@pierce4026]

Hutch is just slow destiny but he doesn’t even bother with Wikipedia

[@Summercamp1sland]

@@pierce4026 Wikipedia is biased for his views but he won’t even do the slightest bit

[@notrealy180217]

Woody is not objectively "pro gun" on a political scale. On a personal scale, he likes guns for himself but he absolutely is not pro gun.

[@firefly9838]

Whats the difference? I consider myself pro-gun largely because I like guns, I work in the firearms industry too.

[@Asildriez]

Spot on. Leave it to a commie to have rules for the but not for me.

[@asamusicdude]

Rules for thee

[@EnduroDreaming]

You make absolutely no sense. Just say you hate Woody and move on.

[@steadly3668]

@@firefly9838 Just because we all stay in the same hotel doesn't mean we're a team.

[@FlipTrackz]

Is Hutch Jewish?

[@psychzach1588]

Acts like it doesn't he?

[@UnimpressedGoose]

Valid question cuz he’s a sneaky one

[@FlipTrackz]

@@psychzach1588 when he denied demographic change and then accepted it by saying it’s a good thing, I knew something was up.

[@Nibtarr]

Seems like he always has an opinion that would hurt YTpipo...

[@5dollarshake263]

He's a Democrat, pro Ukrainian, and Pro Israel so the answer is YES.

[@TEEDUBS]

20:44 Hutch still not able to fathom that Taylor is just a guy with moral standards and does not associate with a political label 🤣🤣🤣

[@kaylanwoytas4744]

Also Boeing has that broken space ship stuck in space.with a old lady in it lol

[@beatle7809]

I think everyone can agree the Russians, and Chinese gaining influence isn’t in the best interest of America, or its people.

[@choochootrain2145]

I think everyone can agree that thats a nothing argument that means nothing, said by nothing people, for nothing people

[@jamesmorrison7989]

There is way more people in this country like Taylor than hutch thinks. Significantly more that 0.001%. Not as much as there is npc’s who tow whatever their party says to, but not insignificant either.

[@Pltr03]

Taylor would be the greatest president in America.

[@niceguyniko]

Taylor is often right.. But man does he suck at making his point.

[@speakerroach4015]

But infinity better than Hutch

[@TexasGreed]

Hutch is mixing Nationalism with jingoism.

[@Ashley-dy7bx]

Everything was discussed here , besides the Ukrainian war. ...

[@MrProbstandrew]

How can Taylor compare the Isreal Palestine situation and history, to the Russian Ukraine situation.. is the wierdest thing! its crazy how some americans seem to have no idea whats going on in the world, apart from what their circle of propaganda tells them. Ukraine never was posing a threat to Russia, thats rediculous! yes ukraine is and was seeking EU membership. And only started seeking Nato membership, to try and protect their souvernity, from Russian Millitary attacks, and decades now of trying to take over Ukraine, piece by piece, and having Rhetoric thta Ukraine isnt even a real Country, but a puppet country setup by NAto. And btw, this russian Millitary agression, and changing of borders, and trying to return to the great russian Empire, has caused so much trouble, and has put the whole EU into a state of war and danger.. something we in the EU didnt think would be a reality again. Btw., without Nato and the US, Russia would have long expanded again and taken over most of Europe, since they basically consider it theirs anyways. And even just stuff like the fact that Russia is waging war in Europe, has caused extrem economic problems, that are felt by everyone, be it economic industries or just life costs now. f.e. energy prices have gone up 3x! and every EU citizen is paying alot, and has lost very much life quality and standards. a huge middleclass has now become poor. but we do it all to support stopping Russian Agression in Europe. We dont have Nukes and big millitary might, so we can only use economics, to pressure Russia. And also a huge reason for this situation, is the "competition" between US and Russia, since the second world war. Now folks like Taylor just want the US to just ignore Russia! and ignore protecting NAtO and the EU!? also u do realise, most EU nations barely have any millitary, due to Nato, US and global alliances, making the need or prediction of war very slim anyways. Russia is the only one that wants a war! and it would be so crazy if the US just bends over to the Russians globla expanses now. Guess might be wise to learn Russian, seeing at they will be the new superpower and "world Police". i just wish US citizens would be a lil more informed about global history and politics, since the US is so important to global stability and has basically been the world police for awhile now.. which is the only main reason we havent been warring, like in the past of humans.. Russia has smellt the weakness of the EU, and now the US, and are flexing more n more..

[@TonyBustaroni]

>Ukraine never was posing a threat to Russia Attacking Russians and offering NATO bases on the Russian border isn't " posing a threat " to Russia? >decades now of trying to take over Ukraine, piece by piece, and having Rhetoric thta Ukraine isnt even a real Country, but a puppet country setup by NAto Russia came up with the Minsk agreements, Russia was trying to give Donetsk and Lugansk back to Ukraine in return for security guarantees that Ukraine wouldn't join NATO >energy prices have gone up 3x! and every EU citizen is paying alot, and has lost very much life quality and standards. a huge middleclass has now become poor. That's Europe's own fault for sending its money to Ukraine and sanctioning cheap gas from Russia

[@RayFinkle05]

Woody is stupid. That said, Kyle is in a league of his own.

[@jackperson2236]

Kyle is legit just a psychopath who loves watching people die. He just loves conflict because it looks cool

[@anerexicpig720]

That said, I also don’t know half the time what Kyle actually believes because he just says shit

[@RayFinkle05]

@@anerexicpig720 He’s got Tim Pool disease.

[@anerexicpig720]

@@RayFinkle05 yeaaaa, I want to like Tim but he makes it hard

[@CalanMcKenzie]

I ain’t even American I love their military doing cool ass shi 😂

[@ChristCapitalist-ov8tj]

Yea you don't have to pay for it or deal with them at waffle House.

[@CalanMcKenzie]

@@ChristCapitalist-ov8tj I’m from Europe so everything we do is an extension to what America does, although we don’t foot the bill, we reap the rewards 😂 thanks Biden. Europe is screwed once Trump is in power again, we’ll have foot the bill for Ukraine once ye pull out

[@staplerwatercup4605]

Taylor is the only person to stop and say "i don't want a camera set for my hard drive"

[@Kewis23]

anti-interventionism is NOT isolationism

[@casuallyretarded5161]

Anti intervention will lead to america loosing their allies and global standing and more nuclear weapons in the world.

[@drear20486]

I feel like nobody knows how Ukraine aid actually works 1. It's military equipment, not money. Most of the military equipment the US has sent was sitting in storage for years 2. What equipment has been produced (shells mostly) is being made in America, more factories producing these things means more American jobs

[@JakeyChan6]

Taylor hates both sides equally and I love it

[@DeckofLies]

He absolutely leans way more to the right, but like most sane people he hates both EXTREMES equally.

[@JakeyChan6]

@@DeckofLies hey I would say everyone leans a certain way more but I just like seeing people hate on the extremes like you said

[@thahrimdon]

Well if hitch is the poster child of leaning left, I wanna be right 😂 really just the common sense party at this point

[@YAH2121]

If your political views align with the U.S. State Department's positions, you're doing politics wrong.

[@zackbosher104]

Not unless you're an arms dealer, a banker, a hedgefund manager, a media conglomerate, a housing developer, a supermarket or food distributer - what about oil companies? Honestly, its just a matter of; they're in charge and you're not.

[@LukeIngels]

So many people agree with Taylor, hutch is so out of touch.

[@harleysons-zg4xy]

17:05 is hilarious...that delivery 😂

[@FohundedthurtietooHirtz]

" and we make killlllin toooohls" shit was good... lol

[@pierce4026]

Hutch really thinks he’s cooking

[@Goobywoobygoo]

Kyle’s sold me on war.

[@austinlamons3729]

I'm so pro kyle on this! Lol. It's called winning.

[@kills4meals218]

Kyles right but that doesn't make his answer right. Unless the goal is to end with overthrowing Russia there's no reason to keep this sunken cost going while Americans are suffering like they are.

[@kills4meals218]

Let people closer to this problem help them and deal with it we have helped more than enough up to this point

[@austinlamons3729]

@kills4meals218 thank you for your service. Hell yeah!

[@Nibtarr]

You're in the middle of the bell-curve

[@austinlamons3729]

@@Nibtarr I don't listen to hip hop.

[@coreymarcum5728]

Merle Haggard has been dead for almost a decade and he almost definitely wouldn't be a Trump supporter. He would probably have similar beliefs to Willie Nelson.

[@Thecodmother]

Can’t speak for the dead we don’t know that either way

[@knifeteeth]

If Woody was never to appear again, I believe your subs would double. He is so damned unlikable.

[@Skrenja]

Keep talking about him and boosting their engagement.

[@LukeIngels]

You need his braindead takes because conflict keeps the conversations going.

[@user-ox5ok4bf2d]

China is a serious country with really bad wiring.

[@tihseht472]

I looked into this awhile back and the best theory I could find was journalist talking about Iran and the Saudis were about to go to war with each other and if that happens the oil price was predicted to sky rocket. I forget exactly but I think the Saudis wanted America to actually war with Iran but bush n Cheney chose Iraq instead. I DK there is articles and proof that Iran and Saudis were having little battles n on the brink of war as Saudis were basically begging America to station more bases in Saudi arabia, it would also make sense why so many high jackers were Saudi and "conspiracy theorist" have always been sus of Saudi intelligence helping with 9/11 which is now suddenly mainstream as the Saudis aren't good friends anymore cause my theory on that is they're past peak oil and have lied about how much oil they have which there's proof to that as well.

[@alexgrooms7467]

I can’t tell if Kyle’s being serious all the time but when he gets on the war he sounds like that kid in high school who would watch gore and talk about how edging he was.

[@bill2fast143]

Taylor once a marine always a marine

[@Opno]

Kyle continues to be giga based, isolationism is gay and so is Taylor

[@drpureinsanity]

Kyle's a retard, he's one of those guys who think war is cool; until he gets drafted and handed a gun and told to go dig a trench.

[@ssirslaughter]

thank god for taylor

[@locbabxyy83]

I live for Masterson wpisodes

[@Tagerrun]

Nothing wrong with nationalism it’s how every other country in the world works.

[@Nuck-Fo0bZz]

Kyle for prez

[@matthewpierce408]

Bring hutch on with gavin mcinnes next

[@BasedRedpilledMasterJ]

19:56 I’m genuinely not sure if Hutch just doesn’t know or is being completely dishonest about that act. The reason so many people voted against it is because hidden in the fine print of that act would have given regular mass funding towards other countries (mainly Ukraine) which I’d say a fair amount of Republicans are greatly against.

[@TurtleChad1]

Ukraine captures good moments on social media. Russia captures actual territory.

[@Summercamp1sland]

Only in the last month

[@pickledpeckers7789]

Bruh

[@Hujhjgffw]

borders have remained largely unchanged since after the 1st month, just a shack here or a coal village there changing back and forth, been a long time since either side have taken a city, these little villages changing hands don't matter much, the risk is one could be taken and it disrupts supply lines and leads to a rout and collapse of the front, like with the 2022 ukraine counteroffensive

[@Omnipotent_Vsemogushchiy]

​@Summercamp1sland no its been this whole year. Check the ISW map. Every 24 hours another village gets taken. And theyve reinforced their Kharkov holdings to the point their donetsk holdings are.

[@Summercamp1sland]

@@Omnipotent_Vsemogushchiy every 24hrs? Maybe like Tiny ass villages not anything major Russia is making gains but it’s not like they have taken more then what 1000 square kilometers Russias offensives haven’t taken more then what they lost in Kherson and Kharkiv

[@Ewarne]

I didn't know Taylor hated everyone he went to DemoMatt, Donut and Brandon Herrera's range day that he was invited to, huh

[@beatle7809]

Taylor’s takes on this subject are brain dead. Which isn’t unusual for him. Last time Hutch was on, Taylor said he would’ve liked if the US stayed out of WW2. Even though Japan attacked the US and Germany declared war on us soon after along with the Italians.

[@ChristCapitalist-ov8tj]

Japan attacked America because we were clearly going to attack them then Germany declared war on us because we were literally shipping stuff to all of their adversaries. It's crazy to me that Americans think they can do whatever they want with zero repercussions. So in my opinion America could have and should have stayed out of the war.

[@TheOttoparkour]

Hutch takes a small part of a bill to push it not all the terrible parts attached to it at all

[@RoscoeS-zo2cg]

Didn't Merle Haggard pass away several years ago?

[@notrealy180217]

Hutch is literally the definition of blue MAGA.

[@MiZerableheavy]

9:26 Dude Merle Haggard’s been dead sense 2016 the fuck is he talking about

[@user-ox5ok4bf2d]

Did you know that most of low income Citizens and Residents are eligible for Medicaid, SNAP, Welfare, Social Services, Rehab, Therapy, Housing, Educational, Connectivity programs and Free Food to all in need regardless of income? How much more universal it got to be?

[@ChristCapitalist-ov8tj]

They're talking about healthcare which can easily destroy you financially.

[@user-ox5ok4bf2d]

@ChristCapitalist-ov8tj If people don't have medical insurance from employers or some sort of health plan and pay out of pocket, yes, I agree, but there are plenty of options to have it all covered.

[@herbhealsus]

Pka is always late when covering a story and even with the extra time is still uninformed on the topics.

[@willblock1285]

Im english born and raised and i support the american empire

[@MaSoNGaMeR115]

Taylor would be the hwite man’s president

[@Jynxdtank]

Why won’t republicans sign a bill for healthcare for vets, well maybe there’s 50 other things in the bill that has nothing to do with helping Americans. So you have to swat down the bill to stop the other shit from going thru,

[@TonyBustaroni]

Taylor makes a great point with the Ukraine situation It's alright for Israel to nearly geno a population group right next to it because that groups poses a moderate threat and Israel lay claim to the land. But it's somehow not okay for Russia to annex historical territories of its own from a hostile regime on its border.

[@chuckles471]

He really doesn't. Ukraine were never a hostile regime, even though have more reasons to hate Russia(look up Holodomor, most Ukrainians are the descendants of the people Stalin left to die). What part of the Ukraine constitution says their goal is the total annihilation of Russia? It's not even comparable. Even if Israel stops, the Hamas government will always attack Israel. It's literally their goal to destroy the country.

[@r1areone377]

Well difference is Palestine is actively hostile to Israel while Ukraine wanted to join Nato and the EU to distance itself from russia. Ukraine is hostile in a mostly defensive way. The Ukraine nation ever sense the fall of the soviet union has wanted to become apart of the western world like a lot of eastern euro nations while Palestine and Israel both wanna wipe each other out. Also in pure terms of whats best for America its is 100% better to have a nation under your loyalty and your vassal than to give a historical enemy/rival a valuable pice of land. Like the usa shouldn’t be ok with russia trying to rebuild to its old soviet self, its in americas best interest aa a nation to keep their rivals down.

[@r1areone377]

Like, its really not a good idea to just willingly let russia annex valuable land while their leader actively hates our western hegemony and also has shown to want to replace, the russians in general have been wanting to replace us sense the soviet union.

[@user-ox5ok4bf2d]

Nationalistic toward military, likes tacos, and never moved his lawns.

[@xxjr8axx]

The main problem for russia is that their military is largely feeding on a corpse, the soviet union’s corpse. Russia does produce modern military equipment but the vast majority of what is in Ukraine right now is soviet era. The Russians are pulling out older and older equipment, eventually it will run out. Estimates are that Russia will run out of tanks in about 2 years, and by run out I mean have a meaningful amount of tanks. They are already relying pretty heavily on the T62, the last one up is the T54/55. After that the Russian infantry are going to have to start acting like the tanks. Should see some of Covert Cabals videos, very informative.

[@sussybakagaming2613]

2-3 years is the estimate at the current rate of losses, which is an important distinction. At some point, the Russian command has to understand that the losses they take are simply untenable, but I HIGHLY doubt Putin will give a shit unless the rest of Donetsk and Luhansk are captured, which will obviously never happen. Honestly, my main concern is if another Ocheretyne occurs, or even multiple. Breakthroughs while Ukraine is rotating troops are seriously terrible.

[@Omnipotent_Vsemogushchiy]

They have literally been bringing out newer and newer equipment every month. Theyre burning soviet stocks and modernizing their military.

[@SOUNDWAVEPR]

People have been saying that Russia would run out of tanks since the second month of the war, it’s a BS take. Russia still has thousands of T-72s/T-80s/and etc. in storage, and there is absolutely no sign of them running out within 2 years. it’s statistically impossible even if Russia were sending them to die in waves every day. Also, It is well known that both sides of the conflict use older tanks but they’re most definitely not relying on them. They are used for certain use case scenarios like cheap artillery and direct fire support, since those tanks are equipped with old guns that still have millions of ammunition left in storage for. Another important thing about the old tanks is the simple fact that this is the best time to use them than ever. The majority of older Soviet tanks like T-62s and T-55s are now in their latter stages of life and need to be used before they start to literally collapse on themselves due to the quality of materials they were made of. For example, almost all of old Soviet interceptor aircraft like the Yak-28 are completely totaled after being in storage for dozens of years despite being taken care of. It’s a good idea to use these tanks you’ve had for many years in storage rather than just letting them rot and become useless.

[@xxjr8axx]

@@SOUNDWAVEPR There are satellite images of the Russian stockpiles, I don’t remember hearing anyone say that the Russians are gonna run out of tanks by the second month. The people that you are talking about might be referring to Russian built instead of soviet built tanks. Russia isnt even in the hard part yet, conquering a country should be easy occupying it afterwards is the hard part. Even if the Russians surge forward they will only get dragged deeper into the mud, they are stuck in between a rock and a hard place.

[@infosuge]

Russia has been using their mothballed and stockpiled weapons rather than put new assets on the battlefield. Bear in mind ‘soviet era’ would include platforms like S300, SU35 which are equivalent to Patriot system or any 4th gen fighter like F-16, F/A-18, F-15E. They are not using shock and awe tactics in Ukraine, civ casualties are low for a conflict of this scale so it’s a slower approach but there’s no shortage of tanks or men they can produce 100 modern MBTs a month and they pay 4x months salary for joining SMO

[@alexandern5296]

Talked about Ukraine for like 2min lul

[@SSAe2]

Defund Ukraine

[@user-ox5ok4bf2d]

If you personally or those using, homeless and citizens that need help are not ready to start farming, landscaping, hard hat, and majority of minimum wage 💩 paying jobs by tomorrow, then how can you really speak on illigal imigration?

[@lucashuerta1233]

I agree with Taylor more than anyone on here but why is he so adamant about America always losing wars since ww2? We definitely haven’t had the best record and not all of them have been in good faith but to act like all of them were unjustified and that we lost them all is strange to me

[@TexasGreed]

Because we almost never achieve the objectives we set out to accomplish. War isn't a video game where the side with the most kills wins. You set goals and attempt to accomplish them.

[@lucashuerta1233]

@@TexasGreed trust me I don’t agree with Vietnam and the wars on terror and essentially everything we’ve done in the last 15 years but you also have some exceptions like Korea or when we had to intervene in Yugoslavia

[@TexasGreed]

@@lucashuerta1233 I think we probably agree but for some reason I can't expand your comment with the "read more" button.

[@harley4230]

⁠@@lucashuerta1233Korea was a stalemate since we didn’t defeat communism on the peninsula and Yugoslavia just created more problems in the balkans.

[@TonyBustaroni]

@@lucashuerta1233 Korean war was not a win and Yugoslavia was a mess

[@nickmiller5685]

I’m starting to think that Taylor accidentally said he supports universal healthcare one time a while back and now he’s just forced to run with it lol

[@taylorm771]

Nah, that's some "all conservatives think x, all liberals think y" sheep nonsense. People are complex. They aren't the caricatures the media makes them out to be. Polling consistently shows the vast majority of Americans (57-62%) support universal basic coverage for all American citizens.

[@campy3888]

@@taylorm771 Now poll that same question with the half of the country that do not get full federal tax return and actually subsidize the public healthcare sector

[@Texasplit]

Stop using right wing and republican as slurs 🤣 your part of the problem if you do

[@ChristCapitalist-ov8tj]

Republicans need to start being more likeable because it's hard to like the right even with how unbearable the left is.

[@austin3853]

Lol Taylor literally thinks we invaded the ME for oil

[@TonyBustaroni]

America didn't? Why did the U.S have all of Iraq's oil fields divvied up to U.S and British companies before the invasion even happened? Why did the U.S pressure the new Iraqi government to prevent Unions and role back workers rights? Why is the only place America occupies in Syria the oil fields in the East? Don't play dumb

[@ChristCapitalist-ov8tj]

definitely wasn't for stability and democracy so then why were we their?

[@media0040]

Woody and Taylor will always vote blue no matter how bad things get woody can’t even admit how bad Biden fully was, I like woody when he gamed not Mr politics

[@TexasGreed]

I highly doubt Taylor is Blue no matter who. He seems to be the "they are two sides of the same coin screw em both" type. He doesn't seem like the type to take his vote to the candidate but rather the type to hold onto his vote and if a candidate wants it they have to come and get it.

[@harley4230]

Taylor literally said he wants Trump to win during this podcast lol.

[@andiamocclash397]

Woody saying ''I like my presidents who don't get shot'' is the most cringe thing I have ever heard

[@64ig6kg0]

Is Hutch Jewish?