I honestly don't think the second part of this theory is correct. After all if Plagg and Tikki influenced Adrian's and Marientte's personality I don't think they would be able to show their hero aspects in their regular forms and there have been instances where Marinette has acted more like ladybug than Marinette in her civilian form and the same goes Adrian. For example the origins episode where Marinette started being more like ladybug and told Chole off for telling Marinette to move seats. The same thing happened in dark Blade where Marrinette was running for class president and took leadership in her normal form to try and get the class to safety, in this same episode Adrian runs down the stairs and makes a very Chat Noir like pun. So I think that the Kwami's are meant to represent the more dormant parts of Adrian's and Marinette's personalities and may even be part of the reason that they were chosen to wield the specific miraculous that they wield. I'm pretty sure somebody asked Thomas Astuc on twitter as to if the Kwami's had influence over the wielder and he only replied with something like, "You would act different if you were in a mask too" which is kind-of vague, but de-comfirmed it in my mind. As for the first part of the theory, it is right and was confirmed by Winny in a interview with Lindalee.(you can probably still find an analysis of that on youtube or maybe even the interview) Thanks for reading all of this I know it kind-of long and messy! So sorry about that!
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
Little Riddle The tweet which you speak of, if that is exactly what he said, doesn’t disprove the theory in my opinion. However, you bring up valid points for the second part which I think are important enough to say that fusion theory is unproven. Thanks for bringing this up! :)
@kaylenlammert52486 жыл бұрын
Little Riddle i was going to say that
@HackiePuffs6 жыл бұрын
Little Riddle what I was trying to say was their superhero counterparts are very different from them personality wise. Marinette is shy and socially awkward while Ladybug is confident and collected. Adrien is just trying to fit in and seem normal while Cat Noir is slick and mischievous. These traits are similar to their kwamiis so that’s what made me come up with that. Also you could kinda hear Tiki and Plagg’s tones of voice in Ladybug and Cat Noir.
@pluto73486 жыл бұрын
Little Riddle well Chat was Inside of Adrien all along. He was just very deep and we'll hidden by the fact that Adrien doesn't want to disappoint his father. Same goes for Marinette LB was inside of her it's just that she is too clumsy to let her out in the real world.
@christamariakhoury98926 жыл бұрын
Little Riddle thx for answering
@dreamingmiki7506 жыл бұрын
The bell on Adrien's suit may represent the fact that he subconsciously sees himself as a domesticated pet, who is restricted by his owner (in this case, his father) Since only house cats wear bells, to scare off birds.
@lizethmijangos83346 жыл бұрын
Dreaming Miki You actually make a good point 🤔
@dreamingmiki7506 жыл бұрын
Lizeth Mijangos thanks ^-^
@ibobam92156 жыл бұрын
Dreaming Miki Maybe when he move out he will get a normal zipper.
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
That’s really sad but really smart at the same time
@illusionfaderr53946 жыл бұрын
Dreaming Miki Thank you so much for pointing that out! ^ w ^
@evermoon4946 жыл бұрын
That would also explain why adriens costume is a little more detailed than Marinette’s. Adrien is a model so it would make sense that he blends the colors and cat like.
@epdlc28896 жыл бұрын
But Marinette likes to design clothes and stuff.
@ΒάσωΤσούνη6 жыл бұрын
My_ Dog Yeah but Marinette didn't really wanted to be a superhero at first but Adrien was super excited
@epdlc28896 жыл бұрын
Βάσω ΤαφΣιγμα good point.
@Anggebug6 жыл бұрын
Evermoon 2097 ya be mari designs so im surprised hers is so simple n such. Do u think it suits her?
@nevaeheve63216 жыл бұрын
But isnt marrinette a designer or want to be a designer?
Who misses the 2003 animated series of that show? Like honestly, 6 or 7 amazing season! Cowabonga!!
@snowleopard22886 жыл бұрын
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@skittymi6 жыл бұрын
Adrien decided on a leather skin tight suit and a kinky bell?
@saraiojeda43966 жыл бұрын
Skitty Kitty *sprinkles holy water*
@kaylinhanna52406 жыл бұрын
dont kinkshame a king👑
@aylaa57726 жыл бұрын
Skitty Kitty you don’t know his fetish😂😂😂
@not.functional6 жыл бұрын
YES
@crowsoto96126 жыл бұрын
He definitely has a weird female dominance kink
@sweetlemonadartanimations3696 жыл бұрын
Or Edna Mode designed it. Cuz remember guys..... NO CAPES!!!
@theariana1o16 жыл бұрын
Ahaha nice
@cottoncloudzcookie59856 жыл бұрын
😂👍
@rosamendieta45796 жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂
@irynamaslova28946 жыл бұрын
That's what I call a great joke
@imanotaku42466 жыл бұрын
Good theory
@xstylequeen91216 жыл бұрын
Marinette is CHINESE! She's a mix of Chinese and French
@sincewhen6756 жыл бұрын
xStyleQueen Yeah, but she also said the place and time. The other Chinese ladybug was probably in China. And the French one probably wasn't also Chinese and that's why they're all different.
@omnomnom26786 жыл бұрын
FoR AlL yOu cOuLd KNiW hEr DAd coULd bE IRisH hoW dArE yOU AsSuME hIs RAcE
@dyanttae87396 жыл бұрын
xStyleQueen how tho???
@sallyshoaf95055 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure when she said that Marinette is French she meant that shes born and raised in France not her enthicity
@mobamba61295 жыл бұрын
Sally Shoaf, How did she get her blue eyes then, if she is just Chinese? And how did she get her last name as Dupain. The suffix ‘pain’ is the French word for bread. How else would she get a last name that means something in French?
@kirstystorey1236 жыл бұрын
Another thing to support this theory is how the villains choose their costumes. They become what they think a supervillain looks like and the outfit also goes with each persons personality. Another thing that supports this is Volpina and Rene Rouge, when Lila becomes Volpina she becomes her idea of a superhero (yes she is a villain but she pretends to be a hero) but when Alya becomes Rene Rouge she has a different style of outfit even though they are both using the same miraculous (kind of)
@pluto73486 жыл бұрын
KirstyAAM Exactly what I said
@LushLover123416 жыл бұрын
Welllll, I think that might be more up to Hawk Moths power rather than their own. After all, he is giving them his power and he is a fashion designer so it would make sense for them to have ridiculous and fabulous costumes based off their powers and what got them akumatized.
@rhex_6 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice Marinette's backpack now I jelly
@MintyMiku6 жыл бұрын
@@dracomalfoy8172 taobao
@nadiaalibaig5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean now I jelly!
@tahaali34245 жыл бұрын
IKR UGH
@Emily-ii3ip4 жыл бұрын
ME and like thats marinette
@carlamuffin4 жыл бұрын
@@nadiaalibaig Like Now I'm jealous like kinda a cool short way of saying it I guess?..
@NhiNguyen-jo7yh6 жыл бұрын
Love your theory by the way. But look at Plagg's eyes and Adrien's eyes. Plagg's are all green with a black dot whereas Adrien's eyes are green. Now, look at Cat Noir's eyes, they're like, a mixture between Plagg's and Adrien's eyes which is another reason that I think your theory might be right.
@3.14applepi6 жыл бұрын
Tikki and Plaggs interaction is adorable!! Is it official?
@Isaangie6 жыл бұрын
Luda Jednoroginja, I think yes! But it looks like only fanservice by LB producers xD
@3.14applepi6 жыл бұрын
Isaangie B. Thanks!
@Isaangie6 жыл бұрын
No prob :)
@mymomlovesme49866 жыл бұрын
it was acted out by tikki and plagg's voice actors in a panel
@jennaj25336 жыл бұрын
MY MOM LOVES ME ooh I didn’t know that...but which panel and when?and is there a video of it pls??
@Mattmak306 жыл бұрын
Am I that dumb I been watching miraculous for months and I didn’t even notice adriens hair changes when he transforms
@dijasoar6 жыл бұрын
Dark Angel OMG WOW SAME HAHA
@marinetteagreste7546 жыл бұрын
Dark Angel 😂😂
@starrosi35746 жыл бұрын
Same 😂😂😂
@tomassalasalt.82916 жыл бұрын
Dark Angel not just you 😞
@thedeadbunny55156 жыл бұрын
saaamme i thought the black of his costume reflected to make his hair look darker or something like that
@lisahdz63326 жыл бұрын
I think that (or maybe I heard but I don't remember) that marinette haven't a good suit cause she wasn't like according to the idea of being a superhero and that's why her suit it's like so simple cause in her conscience she at no moment thought of her as a superhero cause even she said it... That she wouldn't be a superhero cause she is too clumsy and whatever... Because if she would haved liked the idea of being a superhero she would haved imagine a suit like more stylized cause she's a designer and we have seen her creative designs and styles... BTW you're theory's very good... (Sry 4 my English... I'm practicing 😅❤️)
@ehismommy91696 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I thought Marinette, as a aspiring fashion designer would want something, a little more....well more! I can't get over how simplistic Ladybugs costume is compared to Chats
@Nova_the_starcatcher6 жыл бұрын
maybe thats why her power up suits are more detailed
@tahaali34245 жыл бұрын
ur english is good!
@bmb4rllyxcgsss8374 жыл бұрын
And when she became Lady Noire, her design was soo good.
@miraculousladybugaccount36976 жыл бұрын
BUT............ RENA ROUGE SAYS IN SAPOTIS (don’t know if that’s spelled right) somewhat “this just looks like Volpina akumatized costume” wouldn’t Alya choose a different design? It looks so similar. Why would she based her costume on her? Did Alya want her costume to ressemble Lila?
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
She might’ve had no choice since they’re both based on the fox miraculous. Trixx might’ve influenced it too.
@mcmags6 жыл бұрын
Or maybe since Alya already had seen what Volpina is supposed to look like, she didn’t come up with anything different because she didn’t know anything else.
@pluto73486 жыл бұрын
Yes this is true
@scarlyt10176 жыл бұрын
adrienette _4_ever if you look closer, there are some difference, like her mask isn't completely covered (eyelids) and the white color design . But however, it's a fox. So normally we can only think of a red 🦊 fox and they can't look much different
@scarlyt10176 жыл бұрын
And I've also noticed that Lila can fly and alya can't. But maybe it's just because Lila is an akumatized victim so ..
@yukicoli6 жыл бұрын
I have my own theory on this First of all I totally agree with the fact the subconscious parts of Adrien and Mari are the parts that choose what the look like in superhero form Unfortunately I only agree half on the second part of this theory Although I do agree Plagg can cause certain changes to who Adrien is, I don't believe he can change him entirely. My theory is, Adrien in his civilian form, can be mischievous more often if he really didn't care about his father's hard ways. As Chat/Cat Noir on the other hand, he can be mischievous due to him having more freedom of expression because his father can't control him. As for Mari, Like Adrien, Mari can become more of a leader if she wasn't so scared of what others think in her civilian form, but as Ladybug being a leader is easier due to her top priority being protecting her home, Paris. The kwamiis can effect the user in small amounts though. As stated in your theory, Cat Noir becomes freezing although he was fine moments before. Plagg was practically freezing to death. When they combined Plagg's feelings of being cold, fused with Adrien's warmer body temperture, the colder winning, causing the sudden freezing body of Cat Noir. Tikki has also influenced Mari as Ladybug. Tikki was sick in the episode, Princess Fragrance, and while she was sick Mari couldn't transform. Assuming what Plagg said about Adrien transforming with the bracelet stuck to his head worked the same way with sickness, Tikki's weaker state could cause Ladybug herself, her powers, or both, to be weakened as well. That's just my opinions on this theory and my own ideas on how this theory can still work out and still help be cannon.
@spevacknv6 жыл бұрын
The Mermaid Is Real she could have transformed in princess fragrance, other than she was separated from tikki at first. But till I says that she will be fine, that ladybug is needed. Marinette says no, that she is getting tikki to the healer first
@yukicoli6 жыл бұрын
Omi Wan Kenobi I’m not saying she couldn’t transform, I’m saying Tikki being in a weak state could’ve damaged her powers, remember she wasn’t sick until after Ladybug detransformed
@wisaberry33976 жыл бұрын
I Completely agree with this! I just commented something similar to this on this video (But i may have made the statement confusing) AS you can see it was raining when marinette detransformed,meaning the rain could of been the reason Tiki became sick with some sort of Flu much like Plagg's situation when he was locked in the freezer and became cold. Which if marinette transformed when tiki was still sick it could of made marinette her self sick much like Adrien becoming cold after transforming because Plagg was freezing. : )
@yukicoli6 жыл бұрын
Ŵ14 that’s exactly how I saw it except I used the ring as my example due to it being similar situations :)
@sylwiaholowacz11676 жыл бұрын
yes but, plagg tells Adrian to not transform as it can affect his powers but tikki tells mari that she has to transform but mari refuses to transform bc she has to take tikki to a healer, so therefore tikki never told marinate that her being sick will affect ladybug xxx
@lonely71136 жыл бұрын
You will be a good lawyer
@crystleadhikary83356 жыл бұрын
Wow 😳
@rosamendieta45796 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
Well my parents might agree.
@pumpkinplays10926 жыл бұрын
Hi
@emanwahab83896 жыл бұрын
YOUR NAME THO! Woah dude
@nevaeh38636 жыл бұрын
I think that the kwamis are supposed to be like the miraculous holders because remember in the dark blade episode Adrien said a pun and then Marinette can act like Ladybug most of the time in episodes and then remember how Tikki said that they are th chosen ones well they are chosen to be like the their kwamis also the only reason Adrien doesn't pun or joke a lot when he is in civilian form is because he misses his mom but wen he is Cat Noir he forgets about that stuff because he fights with his lady.
@hi-tn2nk6 жыл бұрын
Nevi C I couldn't agree more I love your theory
@midnightgalaxy8866 жыл бұрын
Good theory!
@Chirp-chirp4 жыл бұрын
@@Mariah-jo1nr exactly like why does he need all that piano practice :/
@DollyFaye6 жыл бұрын
I always felt that Chat Noir started to shake to voluntarily fall into Ladybug. Not because he was cold. But I love this theory, and there has to be an costume upgrade that's permanent.
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
Haha doing it on purpose
@theemeralddragon53046 жыл бұрын
I actually heard somewhere in that, the ending to season three I think it said would leave us in tears, but it might have said shock you. After that it did say that they would be getting new permanent costumes. Unless it is fake news or something...
@fireflyer976 жыл бұрын
Seems reasonable.
@Blake-kr6pd6 жыл бұрын
My bird here's your bird in the background and he's going crazy
@8vriskaa8154 жыл бұрын
@Vorrn i love how your trying to use grammer but your not using capitals btw im not trying to use grammar plus it was a year AGO
@infernoninja2876 жыл бұрын
When adrien was thinking of his costume appearence for the first time he must of thought he had to make a homemade costume so thats why i think he has nails in his ears and a belt for a tail what do you think about it? Maybe its cuz in the origins he didnt listen to plagg until he finished unlike marinette listened to tikki until she finished
@camsassywellness6 жыл бұрын
That one dislike is hawk moth Edit: Thx for the likes ^_^
@deadchannel70896 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a creative name :p 2 is Adriens dad
@camsassywellness6 жыл бұрын
Well I mean they are the same person so..maybe they just made another account 😂
@hima-chan11876 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a creative name :p The one is Hawk Moth and the others some of the akumatized peoples😜
@camsassywellness6 жыл бұрын
A girl 03 YESSSSSSS!!!!
@dyanttae87396 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a creative name :p and his akumitized victims
@HackiePuffs6 жыл бұрын
Oh my dog I was screaming so many times while watching this (fangirling). Especially when I just saw my comment pop up on the screen. I’m a daydreamer and sometimes I daydream about me inspiring cartoon reviewers like you, Shadow Streak, and Jem Reviews (two other cartoon reviewers I like). And it’s hard to believe that it actually happened. TYSM!!! 💙💖
@silverstar71874 жыл бұрын
You sound excited, lol 😂🤣
@HackiePuffs2 жыл бұрын
@@silverstar7187 cause I was lol
@sfsin33806 жыл бұрын
Fusion Theory at the moment is a chicken and the egg situation with out more prof it's hard to tell if they always had those personality traits deep down and that part of the reason they where chosen or if they gain them threw transforming and any time they show those traits untransformed is residual. we just didn't see them long enough before their first transformation to tell. if there's any why to prove the theory it will likely come from the new hero's being introduced as we've known them longer.
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
sf sin Yes there needs to be more evidence.
@mehchocolate12574 жыл бұрын
@@MsBirb where did Adriens dad get the book anyhow?
@Pinkledge6 жыл бұрын
Gasps and faints when Sandboy script comes up on screen
@nevaeh38636 жыл бұрын
You do the best miraculous theories keep up the good work.
@pidgeon_fluff6 жыл бұрын
But when Adrien found the book, how could he recognize hawkmoth?? He couldn't read the book, only master fu could. He's never even seen hawkmoth. This is just a thought and I'd love an answer
@pluto73486 жыл бұрын
Cloudchaser101 your right but I was thinking that mabey he recognized the way HawkMoths Miraculous would look like. Idk
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
That is an excellent point.
@pidgeon_fluff6 жыл бұрын
Ms Birb I'm also curious on how hawkmoth sees everything. He always sees when someone is upset, but never sees who ladybug and chat noir are? Are the people who get upset in front of his window? HOW DOES HE KNOW??
@pluto73486 жыл бұрын
That is really true and I've actually thought about this. Like a lot. Even though I don't have an explanation for this.
@pidgeon_fluff6 жыл бұрын
Delia Ramirez I have so many questions about the show and I'd love to even start developing my own theories or work with a theorist.
@DiamondJetPilot6 жыл бұрын
The vid starts and i legit thought this was jaiden animations😂😂
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
Why do people think that???
@DiamondJetPilot6 жыл бұрын
I dont know lol. Apologies if i offended u i can delete the comment
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
No it didn't haha you're not the first person to ask me that and I want to know why. Is it the voice?
@DiamondJetPilot6 жыл бұрын
Ok good lol. I dont know tbh. Yh idk ig thats the first thing i thought of lmao
@khushimodi52645 жыл бұрын
@@MsBirb To me it is your voice
@psun76754 жыл бұрын
In Desperada, You will see that Adrien transforms using the Snake miraculous. You will also see Luka transform with the Snake Miraculous too. When you compare the two, you will see that their costumes are different. They are similar, but they have differences.
@rochellez18666 жыл бұрын
does anybody else want to see what Hawkmoth and his kwami breakdown will be with this theory in mind? just me?
@mobamba61296 жыл бұрын
When Marinette became a superhero, building on your theory that the heroes get to choose what they look like, she was more focused on the fact that she was becoming a superhero, rather than what she got to look like, and so the result was that she got a pretty generic costume. When Carapace, Queen Bee, Chat Noir, and Rena Rouge became heroes, they were clearly more focused on something else while their kwamis were explaining stuff to them, possibly what they would look like. This would also build on why Marinette’s costume doesn’t change or cover her hair, while everyone else’s costume has their hair covered or changed in some physical way. Building on the fusion theory, did you notice that in Despair Bear, after Plagg got Chloe’s bracelet stuck on his head, Adrien tried to transform, but Plagg said that it wasn’t possible to transform with the bracelet on without messing with the costume. This proves that Plagg would be sucked in during the transformation, and fused with Adrien. The bracelet would tamper with Adrien’s powers because it was touching Plagg. If the bracelet was not touching Plagg, Adrien would have been able to transform and get out of there scot-free. The first half of this theory was not entirely my theory, so please don’t hate on me.
@natmartinez83216 жыл бұрын
I've just gotta say this because I always had a suspicion that they influenced their outfits....besides all the symbolism....this means that Adrien WANTS to flounce around in a skin tight leather suit completely with a working tail belt and a bell on his collar 😂
@natmartinez83216 жыл бұрын
Omg I've been noticed;
@usefulchickens6 жыл бұрын
We've never gotten this type of comment before BECAUSE PLAGG IS ALWAYS GETTING TORPEDOED INTO THE RING AGAINST HIS WILL😂😂
@floofycupkim11976 жыл бұрын
Lol s,u reference but instead of a mirror and a gemstone, it's an accessory and quami
@bakugoukatsukitheonlyrealo3836 жыл бұрын
lol your bird is like pay attention to meeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
@sweethal4 жыл бұрын
When Plagg said “After All, the costume is what you wanted deep down.” I think he means Adrien wanted to be free. In the origin episode, Marinette wasn’t ready to be a superhero but Adrien was excited, excited to finally do something.
@terrahockey6 жыл бұрын
Guys it’s theory time
@mariamwehbe82946 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subscribers than that,I mean your theories are interpreted out of the box! I'm really happy I found this channel
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@theemeralddragon53046 жыл бұрын
So I heard news that the end of season three I think it was either would shock us or make us cry I can’t remember, also Ladybug and cat noir are supposed to get a new permanent look. Maybe master fu passes on leaving Marinette and Adrien as the new guardians, and the shock of master Fu’s death along with becoming a guardian might make them to change the image of themselves or maybe just for some reason they have to permanently switch Kwami?
@CuteFlare6 жыл бұрын
I had thought about this about half way to the first season and even if I haven't touched the thought since then I still have hold on to it. I'm pretty happy to hear that some other miraculous fans have hold on to it as well! Then again, as you said it must be at least somewhat obvious by now xD (I cannot wait for the Sandboy since that dialogue between Tiki and Plagg is honestly one of my favorite interactions right now!) But it was definitely great to hear some evidence put behind it! For example the Lady Wi-fi episode, I actually hadn't thought about the cold situation at all! It makes (at least) a bit more sense now after the commenter ran through it :'3 This was very entertaining, hopefully you'll do more of these as they are very thought provoking and nice to listen to while drawing/animating~ Keep up the good work ^^
@l.katalina82776 жыл бұрын
My god, you have a face! You aren't the faceless ladybug theorizer any more :P
@cutecousins30025 жыл бұрын
This theory is so cool! So in conclusion... This pretty much means that Plagg doesn't power the miraculous but enters the miraculous in order to fuse with Adrien... That's deep...😁
@PeacefulLillyy6 жыл бұрын
"When we think of superheroes we think of Superman and Bat man" Me: Na bruv I think of ANPANMAN
@exxiyya48554 жыл бұрын
I agree on that! That's what I think: -It's influenced by the persons personality. -It's also influenced by the Kwami. =It's a mix between them, but the owner has more power of it. -Also, I think that they not directly chose the costumes. It's more like a unconscious decision. That's because they have a clear picture(as you said)of a hero.
@fireflyer976 жыл бұрын
Seems legit. I have a thought about the upcoming Style Queen episode and I'd like to share it. I think that Plagg is the primary reason why Chloe gets the bee miraculous. Outside of Plagg's interactions with Adrian Plagg isn't the most knowledgeable about the people in Adrian's life. He may know about the more general details, like how Adrian's dad isn't the most caring father out there or how Chloe has been Adrian's friend since they were toddlers, which would lead Plagg to assume which person Adrian would give a miraculous in a situation like the one seen in the "Style Queen" teaser. In this case, due to his assumptions, Plagg would steal the bee miraculous and give it to Chloe thinking that "Hey these two have been friends for a long time, Adrian is a really nice dude, so this Chloe person must be a nice enough person to receive a miraculous in order to help ladybug save a petrified Adrian." Something like that. Have any thoughts to add?
@scarlyt10176 жыл бұрын
fireflyer97 well .. i think it might happen but plagg would never steal or do something like that.. maybe master Fu gives it to him to take it to Chloe or he directly goes and keep it on her room
@Bethanialol6 жыл бұрын
fireflyer97 plagg is with adrien all the time so he knows what chloe is like so...
@wiccacat176 жыл бұрын
Love the theory. It fits with what we already know and things that most fan may not have spent a lot of time thinking about. That is if they thought about it at all. Thank you for making and posting this video. I look forward to seeing more of your Miraculous Ladybug videos.
@ahumanthatexists60486 жыл бұрын
The birb in the background 😂
@liyaunisovna8266 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the *Birb* in the background? 😁
@ahumanthatexists60486 жыл бұрын
Fusion Party sorry I mean birb
@mdnuruzzaman87674 жыл бұрын
Miss Birb: *talking* Me: *staring at her perfect hair*
@pluto73486 жыл бұрын
It's also confirmed that the costumes change with EVERY Miraculous holder in the episode of Sapotis. Because when Alya became Rena Rouge she said that she kinda looked like VOLPINA. Of course your thinking that "well volpina wasn't a miraculous holder" but HawkMoth doesn't think of the Costumes himself, the costume is what the Akumatized Victim wanted deep down inside. OK I'm done you decide. (Also I was the the 999th veiw it's so weird cuz I'm usually late)
@ananyapillai60516 жыл бұрын
Remember, Hawkmoth/Gabriel Agreste has the Miraculous spell book so, it practically means he read the whole book or just looked at the pictures (how he deciphered the code is beyond me) and saw the Volphina page AND Lila saw the Volphina page too and comes in Mrs. Birb's first half of her theory.
@samanthagalan49546 жыл бұрын
I have another piece of evidence for this theory. Plagg flirted with TIKKI of all kwamis and if we are going on the basis of the fusion theory then they are reacting just as chat noir and ladybug would.
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
haHA
@floofycupkim11976 жыл бұрын
@@MsBirb so it's like steven universe in a way
@CassandraGachaPlayz5 жыл бұрын
Do you guys remember the origins episode, where Stone Heart was there? Do you guys remember that when Marinette took off her Ladybug Earrings, Tikki Disappeared with them? Well, How come at 8:18 where Chat Noir’s Ring slipped off his finger, he just detransformed and Plagg showed up instead of staying inside of the ring? My Theory for this matter is; If a miraculous slips off or something, for example; Chat Noir’s Ring slipped off. The Kwami will just show up and not disappear because the owner had nothing to do with the miraculous being separated with it. So, what I’m saying is, if the owner willingly takes the miraculous off, the Kwami will disappear into it. But, if the owner accidentally takes it off or something, the Kwami will not disappear. Sorry for changing the subject..
@Blake-kr6pd6 жыл бұрын
1:37 to 1:39 I have to disagree Because in when we first see Rena Rouge she Sid "this looks a lot like volpinos outfit"that means you had no intention of looking like what she did
@Pinkledge6 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought but Lila never did have a real Miraculous.
@Blake-kr6pd6 жыл бұрын
Pink Ledge that doesn't matter
@ibobam92156 жыл бұрын
But maybe she did not know what for a costume and thought of Lila akumatized Form than she transforms and pointed it out.
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
There might be two reasons: 1. Both costumes are based on the fox miraculous, so they’re bound to be similar. 2. According to the theory, Trixx has influence too, meaning it might’ve been his ‘choice’.
@Pinkledge6 жыл бұрын
And maybe when Alya saw Trix she subconsciously thought of Volpina and thats why her costume looks similar to Lila's
@wisaberry33976 жыл бұрын
First off, I loved the Video : ) 2. I'm not sure how to go about the second part of the theory but it does make sense, talking about that Another thing to add to that theory with about the fusion is that in Ep 8 S1 when adrien says he needs to transform, plagg tells him he can't because it will affect the transformation and overall outcome of how adrien will look, meaning that them being fused together to create chat noir is a high possibility of that being the case. (This next part has nothing to do with this but it came to mind) Also speaking of plagg, isn't it weird plagg didn't introduce Master fu sooner?, i get that they shouldn't meet with master fu unless needed or if its an emergency (Technically Confirmed in episode 10 of season 2 by wayzz) or if the users kwami think's that their not ready but plagg didn't mention it to Adrien at all,neither did Adrien or Marinette ask tiki and plagg about where they got the miraculous. Tiki didn't mention master fu to marinette straight off the bat but she did drop some hints and let her at least meet master fu when tiki was sick and when they found the book on the other hand when plagg saw the book he didn't mention it to adrien AT ALL. Unlike tiki who was all over the book and freaking out,plagg was unusually calm and over all ignored/avoided the whole conversation by asking for Camembert,even when he saw the peacock brooch he still didn't exactly react and tell adrien about master fu. This may sound weird and make no sense but think about it,what if there was a reason behind plagg not telling adrien sooner or at all in a manner of speaking? He even FLAT OUT REFUSED adrien offering him cheese just to find out was marinette was hiding,Which was in fact about Master fu ( confirmed in Episode 14 of season 2). Not just that whats the whole reason about Master fu not thinking adrien isn't ready to find out yet? I completely agree with one of adrien's previous statements about him hating being left out in the dark and not able to know the few secrets that marinette keeps hidden despite her having feelings of regret and guilt but in result of that in S2 Ep14 after being confronted by Adrien (in chat noir form) Caused her to feel more guilt which made her have self-doubt about her secrets (Guessing that how she feels),Marinette then decided to confront master fu about it, Was it there and only then did he consider actually revealing himself to Adrien(As far as we know). I get that master fu might have a good reason for not meeting him until later but it still brings up the question why is he not ready to know? As you hear him say to marinette in that exact same episode " Do you put the water in before the noodles?" (Something close to that) and you hear marinette say "No", the point i'm trying to get at here is since master fu's been a guardian for a very long time maybe he knows something that no else knows,like maybe the Chat noir's before Adrien might have said or done something wrong to cause Master fu to delay the meeting with the kwami of destruction and the user or Master fu might know something about Hawkmoth being Gabriel Agreste, since in Ep1 S2 he still was unsure about Gabriel not being Hawkmoth. I mean i could be Over Analyzing things,Maybe our intelligent plagg just really didn't think or feel like telling adrien about master fu and master fu just generally thought he wasn't ready but it does make you question.
@sophiadagostino21736 жыл бұрын
That was funny when you said chicken .... But I love it
@whimhammer2426 жыл бұрын
Wow, just found this video in my recommended and it was really good. Great job Ms Birb, though I believe that we need more circumstantial evidence to confirm these statements. A very thought out and solid theory, you just earned yourself a sub! Cheers!
@Beans4206 жыл бұрын
We are Chat Noir (we are Venom)
@Jess2iPrinzessi6 жыл бұрын
I have to add something. In the episode witht he nightmares... i guess sandman it was? The nightmares of Adrien and marinett changed when they were ladybug and chat noir
@angieluvy6 жыл бұрын
We can be the..... CHICKEN 😂 I LOVE YOUR personality!! U are just like me I am a bird lover and I have two parakeets
@EclipseGecko4 жыл бұрын
The bell of a cat symbolizes that a cat has a loving home. And thats what Adrien wanted a loving father/family.
@sofvpgn4 жыл бұрын
M. J yea lol 😂
@ibobam92156 жыл бұрын
I wanted to mention that they are gonna change Ladybugs suit.
@thatmumei31546 жыл бұрын
What? When
@ibobam92156 жыл бұрын
ThatMumei In season 3
@animatingwolf89116 жыл бұрын
Ibo Bam WHAAAAT?!
@JeonJungkook-tk8qs6 жыл бұрын
Nuuuuuuuuuuu😭😭😭
@omnomnom26786 жыл бұрын
Oh boy am I excited!
@hiraeth17684 жыл бұрын
i do agree with this as adrien does become more mischievous and flirty when he becomes cat noir and also marinette looses a bit of her awkwardness and becomes more confident when she becomes ladybug
@Gsgirl16 жыл бұрын
I think this Theory is 100% ture
@sargok29 Жыл бұрын
This is a really good analysis. Like tikki affected ladybug when she was hungry in the Dearest family.
@alex_shadow83526 жыл бұрын
how did you maybe the backpack
@kat-fq8jd6 жыл бұрын
Woah! I totally agree! I love your theory's, they are so easy to follow and understand.
@alatary226 жыл бұрын
Love this theory!! The idea of the hero influencing the costume is something I already suspected, but it's great to see other people thinking the same thing. A shame you didn't include the egyptian ladybug in the theory, it was the first time we saw a previous ladybug in a different costume. By the way there is this really great spin-off out about the egyptian miraculous holder in which the writer also touches on this theory..google The Oracle of Khepri by Alatary
@shaylaswanson9616 жыл бұрын
Oof I’m late but this is my theory. Tiki and plagg really fit with what Marinette and Adrian needs as a counselor. Whenever Marinette is conflicted/troubled tiki is calming yet firm. She gives Marinette insightful opinions she lets Marinette learn from her mistakes. But, plagg on the other hand is blunt towards Adrian. He’s like that because Adrian’s life has been filled with dishonest people so hearing plagg shoot off his mouth is like a breath of fresh air to him. The only question in my mind is if quamis personalities change depending on the miraculous holder? Sure they still may have some things that won’t change like tikis calmness and plaggs love for camibere (sorry if I misspelled that) but is tiki more firm and plagg less blunt depending on the holder?
@tealcritterkid24366 жыл бұрын
first!!!.....I love your videos!.....can I add you onto my youtuber friends list?
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
There are KZbinr friend lists?
@tealcritterkid24366 жыл бұрын
Ms Birb kinda.....you know where it says related channels on the right when you click on your channel?
@eliza89925 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to convince people about the end theory (the fusion part)to be true for a very long time.I'm glad someone decided to finally share the idea.
@bryanloera97396 жыл бұрын
Can I have that backpack 🎒 pleeeeeese
@MsBirb6 жыл бұрын
But its mine! You can find your own at Hot Topic! 😋
@bryanloera97396 жыл бұрын
Ms Birb yay thx ima be so stylish when I go to school
@raytheprofprocrastinator4 жыл бұрын
The costume is actually based on how you see yourself or how you want to see yourself
@imamazing56326 жыл бұрын
#earlysqad
@artistfreak90076 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice for the freezing part, that Adrein was starting to get really really cold, he is holding his arms like people do when they are cold, but the rest makes sense. Even tiki influences Marinette a little. In hero form she is more confident, and less clumsy. Pluss if the Kami's merge they already seem to know what has happened with the people without anyone telling them, so maybe they could see through the eyes of the mask as well. And their other senses too, like hearing and reflexes. In the episode where the zoo keeper get acumitized, there's a moment when we get to see Adrein's cat ear twich. Also when the two are in civilian form, they seem to be a little more clumsy and don't notice what's going on as much, that could just 'cause they know if they don't pay attention something bad could happen but they relax when they're not wearing their costumes, I don't know, just a thought.
@dianaxxasthetic46694 жыл бұрын
I have finally a theory . The main question about my theory is : how does plagg sees the costume on chat noir when he is sucked by the ring ? It is mostly connected to your theory , so in the beginning , when you put the vid were plagg says :" i have always found that little bell so ridiculous " how come plagg can see how adrien lookes as chat noir when he is sucked in the ring ; cause i thought it was the first time he saw the costume without him being in the ring....AlTHouGh ..... your theory sais that they get combined into one person SO....could IT BE THAT PLAGG SEES THE COSTUME WHEN ADRIEN AKA CHAT NOIR TRANSFORMES BY USING HIS EYES !!!!!!!!!!! Well ,sometimes there are times where chat noir AKA adrien is in the bath room where the mirror is and he could see himself and you said plagg and adrien become one so...in a way plagg uses his eyes to see what happens Another theory which proves my first theory ,in the episode weredad after mr. Dupain invites chat noir for "Sunday brunch" he comes back to his house detransformes and the plagg tells him "you finally got yourself a girlfriend [..]" so plagg has heard everything that has happend while he was in the ring . WHich proves more your and my theory {yours}of plagg and adrien fusioning with each other by saying the words "PLagg claws out "to become ONE person chat noir ,{and mine } that when they fusion plagg can use the body parts of adrien foe example :his eyes,his ears....this is my theory ,hope you read it bye !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@_LunarDragon4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it’s the other way around. My theory is that the whoever wears the miraculous influences how the kwamis behave, though not entirely. If I remember correctly Kwamis were explained to be some kind of manifestation of collective human desire. If this is true then it might be that mean that the way a kwami behaves could be influenced by them “picking up” on the wearer’s truest self or the self they desire to be. If that’s the case then the kwamis’ only real influence on their wearer is that they amplify what the wearer wants to portray. Plagg’s line about this being what Adrian wanted deep down might have been about more than the costume. If you think about kwamis don’t manifest outside the box until their miraculous is actually put on by someone. I hope this all made sense. Anyway it’s been quite a while since I’ve watched the show and I don’t know if there’s any evidence that disproves this. But even if there is, I like this theory and I think it would be something interesting to explore.
@madamedent6 жыл бұрын
I had the same fusion idea once upon a time, and I still love it. It's possible that it's less of a personality fusion and more that Plagg contributes general cat-like qualities to Chat Noir, though. Like the night vision we've seen, the claws, the climbing buildings. Cats also have an average body temperature 2-3 degrees higher than humans, so maybe that's why Adrien seemed like he suffered more from the cold as Chat Noir.
@CMA03_YT6 жыл бұрын
This is the best Acaute theory i ever heard about the kwamis and holders and i 100% agree because it makes sense and it would automatically work a lot better that way! and in the long run helps the holders themselves to be better people.
@quinlantheunicorn70906 жыл бұрын
I have a theory. In the episode Gamer there is a scene where Adrian tackles Marinette to the ground just like how Chat Noir tacks Ladybug in various episodes. When he opens his eyes and looks down at He he gets a kinda of surprised look on his face. I think that is bc the idea of Marinette being Ladybug pops into his head. Think, they’re faces are inches apart and all he can see is her eyes. Even though Ladybugs eyes are different from Marinettes they are still extremely close in color. I really didn’t do a good job explaining that one but I have another theory. In The Collector when Gabriel finds out his book is missing he tells Natalie to put a separate sketch/design book where it “belongs”. Later on in that episode you see that same note book in the room where Gabriel becomes Hawkmoth. My theory is that Natalie knows that Gabriel is Hawkmoth but doesn’t say anything because she is either in love with him or overly loyal...I think it’s more the she’s in love with him. Anyway there’s more proof to support my theory. At the end of the episode Natalie actually SEES Gabriel go down into his lair. That’s all. Good day.
@iamnotmegan6 жыл бұрын
I think the transformation sequences in the origin episodes reflect this. Marinette was completely flubbing it, panicking as it happens, and her costume is more simplistic to reflect Marinette's lack of preparation for being a superhero. Adrien, on the other hand, is more than ready. He has the cool moves down and a more intricate costume, as if all the time alone let him create his feline persona. Adrien's also a huge anime nerd, confirmed by Astruc himself, and was probably majorly influenced by magical girl anime, especially Tokyo Mew Mew. And on the subject of fusions, I was screaming for you to mention the Princess Fragrance episode, where Ladybug is caught out in the rain at the beginning of the episode and Tikki catches a cold because of it, but Marinette doesn't. Sorry for the long comment, but there's hardly any ML theorists out there so it excites me when I do see one.
@canislunaticus6 жыл бұрын
DAMN THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE. Great video and great theory! Bravo!
@rachalebakare35256 жыл бұрын
I really like the first part of the theory (not that the second part was bad) and I agree with it. It makes sense. Adrien is realising he can be a cat superhero, so imagines what a cat superhero would look like. He's excited and confident, because he is dreaming of escaping, and is imagining what he would look like ('What can I say? It's the model in me' -Adrien Agreste) so his costume is a lot more detailed. Marinette though, is scared and isn't thinking straight. She is imagining the actual hero aspect so isn't imaging her appearance. Therefore her costume is a lot more simple. Thank you for making this video.
@anniekr1846 жыл бұрын
Loved the theory, I’ve been thinking about this!
@mcmags6 жыл бұрын
Excellent theory! I love it and I can believe it
@JustASunflowerSeeD6 жыл бұрын
7:30 to add to this, when the reverser changed their personallity, ladybug became SUPER clumsy, but isnt marinette clumsy? But tikki isnt, so mabye tikki's personallity changed then. About chat, plagg is usually calm when theres danger and says to adrian "relax, everything's fine, let me eat my cheese" or things like that, so the raverser made him paranoid.
@azras72006 жыл бұрын
The theory at 7:42 does make sense as in the coming episode 'Sandboy' we'll find out that perhaps Tikki and Plagg share a relationship similar to Ladybug and Chat Noir. In the episode Plagg calls Tikki "Sugar Cube" which Tikki responds to with "Stinky Sock" (I know, they're adorable :3) This banter mirrors exactly how Ladybug and Chat Noir are around each other. I'm not saying that Plagg is the reason why Chat Noir//Adrien is in love with Ladybug (It was clearly mentioned in the Origins episode that he was in love with the girl behind that mask), but perhaps he influences it, for example the name calling. Also, if you compare the way Adrien and Chat Noir act around Ladybug, this theory will make a lot more sense; in the episode 'Riposte' Adrien doesn't try to impress Ladybug (Although he unknowingly does it) with jokes like Cat Noir. Perhaps this is because he doesn't want to reveal his identity but you know, my theory could be correct.
@witchbiss40384 жыл бұрын
So Adri chose a flirty tight black leather costume with a cute bell And Mari chose a simple ladybug costume And this is why Adri is the best model
@melissahalliday67086 жыл бұрын
AMAZING! I never noticed that before.
@vercelcatane12036 жыл бұрын
In the episode roger cop plagg said to Adrien that if he will not take the bracelet out of him when he will turn to chat noir the power will be soaked because of the bracelet, so they are really connected, so that is why I believe your theory
@lightupyourday53233 жыл бұрын
I also think marinette (laydy bug) her suit is with nothing sticking out. is because she thinks she is clumsy. and doesn't want to be clumsy when she is ladybyg. Also Chatnoir froze because he "absorbs" plagg, like in the epp you showed. Plagg is saying the bracelet would absorbed or somthing
@piperkelber50916 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty cool theory. You think though, if plagg and tiki have been this way forever that one day tiki would give plagg a chance? Or tiki would start flirting back?. And you think when that happens that maybe adrien and Marinette would finally be togerher as a couple/ and/ or know each other's identities. Not only bc they already like each other but bc tiki and plagg like each other too? (I hope that makes sense). And also, you think that adrien and marinette liking each other was influenced a little bit by tiki and plagg?(that's a bit of a stretch considering marionette already started to like adrien on her own but you think that's possible they like each other a bit more due to their Kwames(?)) Like, you think Adrien actually likes ladybug the way he does, or was that influenced by plagg? And the reason marionette doesnt like catnoir so much (or when she shows a liking towards him) it's influenced by tiki's emotions?
@sophiasab15245 жыл бұрын
I like the theory, I really do, but when seeing the clip of Adrien in Frightening gale, I remembered in one specific clip that Alya takes a picture of, you see that not only is Marinette looking away and smiling with her hand on her cheek, but Adrien is too. It makes me curious, and it's very obvious, but does Adrien have two crushes...? I mean it's OBVIOUS that he likes Ladybug, but do you think that he also likes Marinette? I mean there is so much evidence to back this up. Adrien in Chat Noir form kisses her hand, bows, flexes and tries to impress her in Illustrator. Adrien checks up on Marinette after she gets her feelings hurt by Kagami and is told that Kagami doesn't hesitate and that Marinette does in Frozer, and another thing that makes sense is when in Mayura when Marinette kisses Adrien on the cheek (Fangirled all the way on that) he smiled happily. But one thing stuck out in only one of those pieces of Evidence, Plagg's sentence in Frozer. He told Adrien that he was ditching Kagami for Marinette, Adrien's response to plagg's sentence also had hesitance in it, not to mention Adrien also looked jealous when Luka helped Marinette up and out to the rink. But could what plagg said to be somewhat true? Could Adrien perhaps have a crush on Marinette AND Ladybug?????
@dehemi19103 жыл бұрын
moral of the story: if you are a cat noir simp, your partially a plagg simp
@ede-mae.___.26135 жыл бұрын
To add to the first theory adrien, carapace, Rena and queen bee had more time to think about what they wanted their suits to look like and had probably put more thought into what they would look like as a super hero, Adrien probably fantasised about it being away for him to escape his house and the others had seen ladybug and chat noir and probably thought “wow imagine if I was a super hero” leading to why lady bugs costume is so much more obvious then chats or the others, Mari didn’t think she could ever be a super hero and had no faith in herself so she probably had never thought about what she would want her suit to look like which is why her suit is so basic and pretty much exactly what you think when you think super hero (mask and skin tight suit) because she hadn’t imagined her own personal suit the miraculous just went for her basic idea of a super hero suit (this is super long but I thought it was worth adding) 💭
@taekookie19764 жыл бұрын
The second oart of the theory is sooo applicable! I mean in an episode which came out later, Reflekdoll, we see the kwami switch happen and Lady Noir (marinette) acts like Cat Noir, whereas Mister Bug (Adrien) acts like Ladybug! Wow!
@adriana92046 жыл бұрын
i loved that theory it made so much more sense to the show
@jonathanborromeo93354 жыл бұрын
So like... their costumes basically represent who they are or show what they think of themselves so I think Marinette sees herself as an ordinary girl (which she says everytime in the intro) because her costume looks "ordinary" compared to the other superhero costumes (idk it just came into my mind) I also realized that their superpowers are also related to the animal their kwamis represent. Ladybugs are a sign of luck, thus Ladybug's LUCKY CHARM Cats, or more specifically black cats, represent bad luck since black cats are often believed to ruin anything that comes their way resulting in Chat Noir's CATACLYSM (which also means "something that causes great destruction") Foxes are usually animals that aren't trusted and are also called "deceiving" because sometimes everything they show aren't what they seem to be at first sight (ehem, LIE-LA). That's why Rena Rouge's power is the power of illusion or what she calls MIRAGE Carapace's superpower is SHELTER which basically represents a turtle's shell that serves as its protection from predators and as their home as well. Carapace is also another term for a turtle's shell. Queen Bee's superpower is VENOM which is very obvious because bees are well known to have venomous stings (yeah, that's it) Viperion's superpower is SECOND CHANCE since snakes are a symbol of transformation, rebirth, etc. which basically is like a second chance in life(?) idk A rabbit's burrow/hole is used for transportation. The phrase "rabbit hole" or "falling down the rabbit hole" is a metaphor for something that transports someone into a wonderfully or troublingly surreal state or situation. Thus, Bunnix's superpower: BURROW. King Monkey's superpower: UPROAR is a situation in which people are upset, angry, or disturbed by something. The Monkey King a.k.a SUN WUKONG is a trickster god. This probably explains Kim's superhero name and his ability to ruin or disturb other's powers. Dragons are known to have supernatural powers and are often depicted as SEA SERPENTS and rarely in AIR (in Japanese culture. And dragons are also believed to breathe FIRE That PROBABLY explains Ryuko's superpower: the WATER, FIRE AND WIND DRAGON (idk if there's a fire dragon power. Correct me if I'm wrong) LASTLYYYYYYY... The Pegasus has the ability to fly unlike horses. And they also have supernatural superpowers. They can travel through the mortal and immortal realm, which somehow relates to Pegasus' superpower: VOYAGE. DISCLAIMER: I don't own ALL the information about the kwamis (animals') symbolizations. I mostly looked them up on the internet so... Yeah. Credits to the rightful owners =)))
@ohyouarenanaa2124 жыл бұрын
The kwamis actually bring their true selves out
@laurenkempenaar64926 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Adrien's influence on the outfit - the bell is a distinctive part of the collar of a 'home kitten', which represents that what Adrien wants most of all is a home :(
@pandicornlover18536 жыл бұрын
Ok I have a theory like if you agree in the style clip not trailer but clip we see plagg say this is not good when Adrain is turned to gold so I think plagg either goes to master fou or goes directly to marrinete (or he might just hide some but thats boring) and if he goes to marrinete she is going to completely flip but ladybug might already transformed so her find but she still flip. I think is more likely that he goes to master fou since he has the miraculous and stuff, what I’m saying is that I think someone tells her that chat noir can’t be there or something so if you think that might let by liking my comment sorry for the lack of punctuation have a good day:)
@pandicornlover18536 жыл бұрын
I meant style QUEEN clip sorry
@comi-cchi6 жыл бұрын
Cool theory. I totally agree with it. Btw i really enjoyed this facecam video :D
@missjoannaofyeetyoink5 жыл бұрын
I love your Marinet inspired bag
@lolbitisexotic17396 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing these comments about Rena rogue and Lila but I feel like she didn't know what she wanted because her kwami didn't have enough time to explain like tikki and plagg did so she only remembers lilas costume instead of her own but I guess she liked the end result because in the beginning of Syrian she kept it.