PLAINSMAN LoadOut #1 - 7.5" 1851 Navy Revolvers + 20" 1874 ASM Sharps Carbine + TTN Hammered Shotgun

[@SC93-85]

Totally agree on the hammered coach gun. It’s the only shotgun I’d buy or compete with. Hamerless are obviously faster and easier but not nearly as cool looking imo. And that’s half the point in CAS lol.

[@JEDiTV]

I don’t use my hammered-double in a lot of main match stuff, because I just couldn’t keep up. I’m fast with it… but a hammerless, single trigger, in the right hands, is a winning combination. Having said that though I will add it is not ALL about winning. Yes, I am competitive and I do like to win my category… but I also enjoy being versatile with all different types of firearms (especially ones as cool as the hammered double barrel shotgun!).

[@marcosaraiva9205]

Oh yes Hammer shotgun looks more cool and accurate with the ball and cap period ! Is always a pleasure too watch your vids and the knowledge you and give ! Have a great weekend keep up shooting fast and on the target!

[@JEDiTV]

Thanks Marco. I will. -Jed 🤠

[@peterott9162]

Oh my gosh, I absolutely loved your 45-70 sharps rifle!!! Such an iconic beautiful piece of history!!!!!!

[@JEDiTV]

Thank you!

[@sasquatch885]

My Plainsman load out is two Uberti 1861 Navies, CZ Hammer Double,and a 1880 Springfield Trapdoor 45-70.

[@JEDiTV]

Thanks for sharing.

[@ako_thelynxtherian2345]

You amaze me brother! You’re so quick and you never miss! I don’t do the competition shooting, but one day I would like to try it 😊 Thank you for all of your cool videos I really appreciate and enjoy them very much!! Much love and respect brother!! Keep up the awesome work you do!! I’ve learned a lot from you and your videos!! Thank you 😊

[@JEDiTV]

Well, I do miss occasionally 😉 I appreciate the kind words!

[@millcreekrange]

Very Nice Jed!! 👍👍

[@JEDiTV]

Thanks.

[@darrenvanderwilt1258]

These are awesome videos. I dabbled in SASS late 90’s timeframe, and am currently working on re-equipping myself to get back into it. I have one Pietta 1851 .36 Navy on the way, and seeing this gives me encouragement.

[@JEDiTV]

I’m glad to know that these videos gave you some encouragement! I have several where I use my .36 Navy Revolvers, let me get you started with one of my favorites: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIikdqqCqpd1lbc ENJOY!

[@SN-xk2rl]

Love the demeanor. totally into the shooting and fun. Not into silly egos. Respect.

[@JEDiTV]

Thank you. I appreciate your comment. -Jed 🤠

[@guardianofgoblins682]

I've got two 1860 C&B's and I just acquired a C&B double barrel shotgun and I'm still looking for that perfect rifle can't wait to get into this sport ASAP

[@JEDiTV]

Sounds like a great load-out. But, you’re gonna wanna reconsider that “cap and ball shotgun” for one that shoots shells. There are typically 4 shotgun shots on a stage, it would be impractical to try and load that front-stuffer “on the clock”.

[@guardianofgoblins682]

@@JEDiTV well Jed Iwould ( see what I did there lol) but I have paperwork issues a mix up with NICS and have to hire a lawyer so I got to use what I can for now

[@soylentgreen7074]

I 100% agree on the hammered coach gun. I hope to get a Cz hammer coach eventually. I use an 1887 chiappa now. These quality made gun aren’t cheap. Gotta acquire them over time.

[@JEDiTV]

The '87 is a fun one. I should get mine out more often... but, I'm such a big fan of the double that I rarely use anything else. -Jed 🤠

[@soylentgreen7074]

@@JEDiTV I’d have a double by now but I’m picky. They’re hard to find with hammers and the ones usually available are over $1,000. I need to be on the look out for a used one.

[@JEDiTV]

@@soylentgreen7074- take a look at the TTN Hammered Double (I did a video about it awhile back). I really like mine and you might find one for about half of what you’re talking about with some other hammered double barrel shotguns. -Jed 🤠

[@soylentgreen7074]

@@JEDiTV yeah I watched that vid a while back. Not sure if they’re made anymore. I searched for them but haven’t found anything. Thanks for your replies as always.

[@JEDiTV]

@@soylentgreen7074 - looks like Cimarron is carrying ‘em but they appear to be out of stock. 🤷‍♂️ www.cimarron-firearms.com/products/shotguns/1878-hammered-shotgun.html Good luck on the hunt!

[@familyadventures4128]

I gotta place myself... Went all in 2 years ago thinking I was just gonna shoot Cowboy/Cowgirl age group. And of course I had to have matching leather, and a gun cart, and the costume and accessories. Then I discovered Classic Cowboy, and had to buy all new guns. And now I'm learning about all the side matches? Wild Bunch, Plainsman, and Long Range, Oh My!! What's a boy to do?

[@JEDiTV]

Spend lots of money. 😆 Sometimes there seems to be no end to it. Guns. Back up guns. Side Match guns. And let’s not forget the RV to go to all of those outta town matches. -Jed 🤠

[@familyadventures4128]

@@JEDiTV Had a great time shooting with you this last weekend. Bought a new shotgun for my next match in 2 weeks, hopefully I can get it ready!

[@JEDiTV]

@@familyadventures4128 - it was nice to meet you too Bandaid. I’m sure I’ll see ya again. What shotgun did ya end up picking up?

[@Losantiville]

Would love introduction videos for us thinking about trying Cowboy Action Shooting.

[@JEDiTV]

I have one, search “JED iTV Introduction to Cowboy Action Shooting” and it should come up. It’s an older one… but still relevant. Also, there is a Playlist of “First Time Shooters” on my channel as well. Hope that helps. -Jed 🤠

[@TiroeRicaricaWestern]

Towards the end of August at my club I will organize a Plainsaman Match, I will use a pair of 1847 Walkers, my Norinco 1887 and a friend will let me use his Sharps. Will be featured in a video on my channel. I shared your video with my buddies from the club in order to build up the expectations. As always nice video. Ciao - Bruce from Italy

[@JEDiTV]

Have fun at your Plainsman event! A pair of Walkers sounds like a blast (literally)! -Jed 🤠

[@michal.abramowicz]

Hi! In Poland we can't load at home and came to the range. We have to load at the range. But again nice press. I'm wating for something similar from my gunsmith.

[@JEDiTV]

Thanks for watching and commenting I had no idea about that law in Poland 😬 -Jed 🤠

[@michal.abramowicz]

@@JEDiTV basically at the range we go unloaded. Especially cap and balls. The guns with central or rimfire are more safe. Just in case.

[@HellgateSASS3302]

SASS considers the cap&ball revolvers as "unloaded" until they are capped. Up until capping they are incapable of firing and thus not shootable and safe. Once capped (at the loading table at the range) they are then "loaded"and need to be treated as such.

[@richard8808]

Much as I love the Colt SAA, gotta admit those old percussion cap revolvers are about the prettiest pistols ever designed. Sort of the Platonic ideal for pistols, in my mind.

[@JEDiTV]

The ‘51’s are my favorite for this game. I use the converted versions for main match and standard percussion for side matches, like Plainsman. -Jed 🤠

[@williambarnette1049]

I absolutely agree I have a TTN and I love it and I love the 36. 1851 but have been called for a couple of misses because spotters couldn’t hear hits. Has this ever happened to you?

[@JEDiTV]

Thanks for the comment. And, yes, I’ve been called on misses that I didn’t have (also had misses that the spotters couldn’t see 😉). Check out this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmK4in1vgM2nbqM -Jed

[@oregonoutback7779]

Hey, there's ol' Jed. Looks like you finally got done mowin' the ranch and gettin' back to movie makin' again. Good on ya. I like these load out videos. We get a chance to take a close up look at those items Gootube doesn't want us drooling over. As you were working your way thru cartridges in that Sharps, all I could think about was my ancestors riding down on them cavalry boys with about 30 arrows each and a Yellow Boy. I love the Sharps, but when it comes to keeping my scalp where it belongs, I'll take a yellow boy any day. Thanks for another well done video, Jed.

[@JEDiTV]

Yeah, in that situation I’ll take my Yellowboy. For Sure! 😆 Not only did I get caught up on the yard but I went to a big 3 Day match and filmed a bunch of stuff for y’all. Hope to have some edited for next weekend… -Jed 🤠

[@oregonoutback7779]

@@JEDiTVIn that case, 3 atta-boys for Jed !!

[@guyfox1206]

A pair of 1862 navy's, a Winchester high wall In 38-55 (all Uberti's) and a "Doc Holiday" Hammered Shotgun by Cimarron.

[@JEDiTV]

Nice! Thanks for sharing. -Jed 🤠

[@framusburns-hagstromiii808]

Haven't shot Plainsman...don't have the guns and not likely to find any kind of SxS shotgun or Sharps around these parts anytime soon. I'm a novice still learning the game and aquiring stuff as money and opportunity allow.....not a lot of either at the moment.. But I am thoroughly enjoying your videos...always great shooting! Thanks for sharing!

[@JEDiTV]

It took me a while to get geared up for Plainsman, and that was back when you could pretty readily find gear. Glad you enjoyed this episode! -Jed 🤠

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

I absolutely love the 1851 Navy 36 caliber percussion revolver.

[@JEDiTV]

Me too! -Jed 🤠

[@adam1079]

I'm just getting into the cowboy action world. So I'm still building up gear. Although having just started I only have 1 Pietta revolver. It's expensive but I'm keeping after it. Your videos are fantastic by the way

[@JEDiTV]

It is expensive! But it’s a great investment in a sport that you can have fun with for years! -Jed 🤠

[@adam1079]

I agree. I look forward to getting out to my first local match to watch

[@nickjm37fordel1]

That looks like a fun category to shoot in. Thank you for sharing.

[@JEDiTV]

You’re welcome. -Jed 🤠

[@Larry--qn4dd]

Nice guns, nice choice. My 1860 army is an armi san marcos, shoot all day never sticks or binds, one of the best black powder shooters i have , great vid thanks !!

[@JEDiTV]

You’re welcome and congrats on that ‘60 Army. Sometimes ya just get the best of the batch and it sure does feel good. -Jed 🤠

[@SlickSixguns]

Maybe you could do an episode on all the different rifles used for plainsman

[@JEDiTV]

I might have covered several of ‘em in my Plainsman rules episode. Honestly, I don’t remember. But, it’s a great idea if I haven’t. I normally only cover guns I own (see the excuse to buy more rifles building?) so I might have to pick up or borrow some of the other models I don’t have hanging on the wall. Thanks for the suggestion. -Jed 🤠

[@charlesboettger9506]

Hello JEDI! Have you ever seen anyone use the Sharps 1859 paper cartridge rifle for Plainsman?

[@JEDiTV]

Howdy Charles! No, I have not. -Jed 🤠

[@silverknight674]

Love seeing these different load outs. Please keep doing them. They are great for a beginner like me.

[@JEDiTV]

I plan on continuing them. -Jed 🤠

[@kevincollier4147]

Got both hammered and hammerless for the shotguns, like em both. Will use my 1875 Trapdoor in 45-70, but gonna have to get some revolvers with Army grips for my big paws.

[@JEDiTV]

I really like the Trapdoor (that might be a hint for Load Out #2 😊). -Jed 🤠

[@mightystu49]

Cool to see some different loadouts! That's one of the cool things about CAS, having different categories that can let different sort of themes or eras shine. I think something with boltguns would be neat, though don't know exactly how you'd do it. I digress, fun video as always!

[@JEDiTV]

Yeah, I like to mix it up with different load outs and keep proficient with all types of firearms. Thanks for the comment. -Jed 🤠

[@guyfox1206]

There is a side match at several clubs called BAMM (Bolt Action Military Match) I don't know all the rules but I know the 1903 Springfield is a commonly used rile.

[@mightystu49]

@@guyfox1206 Sounds neat! I think you could probably run something like a WWI-themed loadout match.

[@moistbizkits]

once again, your video has me wanting to buy more guns that are impossible to find right now!

[@JEDiTV]

…glad I could help?… 😉

[@ghostrider196319]

Good video, was looking at getting into sass, very helpful

[@JEDiTV]

Glad to hear it! I’ve got more Load-Out episodes on the channel and more coming. -Jed 🤠

[@johnmyroniak7752]

Cool gun picks when ever I compete I’ll use Remington percussion revolvers and if allowed a Henry single shot rifle

[@JEDiTV]

Good choice on the Remington, a lot of folks use ‘em. I’m not familiar with the Henry, but I think it is a copy of the Handi-Rifle (🤷‍♂️) which is allowed. Good luck! -Jed 🤠

[@sixshootertexan]

Nice setup. I need to get me another .36 pistol.

[@JEDiTV]

Thank you. Hope ya find one at a great price. -Jed 🤠

[@WORRO]

Awesome video Jed. Thumbs up ~John

[@JEDiTV]

Thank you!

[@cedar_tree2006]

Q: On the video timer at 5:11 is an inset picture of one of your Pietta Bros. revolvers. It is the only time it shows your revolver clearly. Looks like a Colt 1860 Army grip frame instead of the shorter and original 1851 Navy grip frame. Hard to tell, but previous videos seem to show 1851. IIRC, previously you mention that you like "1851 over 1860" specifically for grip size. My imagination, or do you prefer the 1860? I can't decide which grip frame I like best, so I just keep buying more and more Colt replicas. Even had to throw in some Dragoon and Walkers to test. Still testing, and hopefully will be 20 years from now. I enjoy your videos, (even though you shoot PIETTAs), and appreciate your contributions to CAS. Enjoy your coffee!

[@JEDiTV]

I prefer the ‘51 Navy. But, the grips might be slightly different between my Uberti Conversion Revolvers and these Pietta Percussion Revolvers. If there is a difference, it isn’t enough that I notice it while shooting (I’m not home to check now). I do have a set of Pietta Peacemaker clones with ‘60 Army sized grips. I don’t “love” them but they don’t bother me… it’s just more grip than I need. I like that philosophy, keep buying until you find what you like best 😆 Thanks for the compliments, comment and coffee. -Jed 🤠 ☕️

[@HellgateSASS3302]

Cedar_Tree, the Pietta Colt Navies have more of a bell shape to the bottom of the grip and are a bit wider at the bottom. The San Marco and Uberti Navies have the typical Navy/SAA grip with less flare than the Piettas. To me, the Pietta grips make the gun point high as my hand tends to choke up on the grip. I have swapped out Pietta Navy grips for Pietta 1860 Army grips because of the better fit for me.

[@williamcrawford7982]

Great insight, thanks.🤠🇺🇸✔

[@JEDiTV]

You’re welcome. -Jed 🤠

[@arnostruwig9634]

Great video. Would love to know what guns are all acceptable in these sidematches

[@JEDiTV]

This is an old episode of mine covering the Plainsman rules. Let me know if you have any questions after watching it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emWUp4WeZb1kp8Usi=G8ic8n7d-BfcAB4J

[@arnostruwig9634]

Hi Jed great thanks for that. The shotgun and revolvers will be ok to do on the rifle side my 1873 H&R Buffalo classic might work although it's a bit long. Was thinking a shorter single shot martini Henry but let's see. Thanx for always answering on the comments that's why we love this sport. Always people willing to help. Keep well!

[@JEDiTV]

You’re welcome @@arnostruwig9634 🤠

[@soylentgreen7074]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but before dropping your lever, aren’t you supposed to put it on half cock or full cock so the firing pin isn’t dragging on the falling block? I hear everyone say that about sharps so the tip if the firing pin doesn’t brake, chip or bend over time. I don’t own one(I’d like to eventually) I have a hi wall. Great video as always.

[@JEDiTV]

Yes, technically you are correct. I’ve heard/read the same thing several times. -Jed 🤠

[@terrysporrong7984]

Good stuff Jed…. Plainsman is on my list, looks like more fun!

[@JEDiTV]

You might have been a little busy at this match 🤠 But, if you need gear for the next time, let me know! ~Jed 🤠

[@rickfleming4721]

I've played around with plainsman a few times I use 60 armies, ttn hammered and my rolling block. Rolling block is my long range rifle, way to heavy for being competitive but fun. I have thought about getting a Sharps or hand I-rifle for plainsman. Like your loadout

[@JEDiTV]

Thanks! The Rolling Block is one I don’t have in my collection… yet 😉 -Jed

[@revmikeyArd]

Big fan of your channel! Love the load out videos, but looks like you only did the 2 episodes for the series. Are there more load out videos you've down with your other gear that I missed? If not please make more of these videos 😃 Cheers

[@JEDiTV]

Working on it!

[@revmikeyArd]

@JEDiTV excellent :) thanks amigo! I have a pair of 1851 navy's I just finished making holsters and a gun belt for and recently aquired a stoeger coach gun so I've been seriously thinking about getting into sass though it's not huge here in interior Alaska, there are some clubs in state. Your videos just make me want to give cowboy action shooting a try that much more. Keep up the good work!

[@oldschoolguns7634]

I was walking around plainsman for some time and this year I started participating in some at last. I agree on shotguns with You. Hammerless for plainsman are not the "right" choice. And thats why I have nice hammered double in work by my gunsmith. As I have some warm thoughts for classic cowboy category so I have plans for using it also for CAS. For revolvers I have 1861 navy and will support it with some 1851 (as soon as uberti will make them again - the stores are still empty around here after covid mess). For rifle my favourite is springfield trapdoor but I live on wrong continent and they are quite rare and cost way to much around here so probably it will end with some old rolling block carbine in 44-40 that my friend has and that he borrows me to the competitions. Overall I like plaisman it is pure pleasure and legal reason to have more guns... :-)

[@JEDiTV]

It’s one of my favorite events too. I really like these… well… “Old School Guns” 😉 (ya see what I did there?). -Jed 🤠

[@oldschoolguns7634]

@@JEDiTV Touche :-)

[@randallbowman7899]

Cool

[@JEDiTV]

Thanks.

[@runawayacres4622]

Hello its bee a bit since i watched any You tube. i totally agree with hammer shotguns. I not have seen any Plainsmen matches yet, just pro steel and wild bunch. If I had to load out for a plainsmen match everything would be the same but I wouldn't use a sharps I love my 1868 Rem Rolling block. But hey I still like Sharps still my favorite.

[@JEDiTV]

Runaway Acres, it has been a while. Nice to hear from you. Sounds like you’ve got plans for a good side match load out. 👍 -Jed 🤠

[@williambarnette1049]

Jedi where did you get the over powder wads? What diameter? Thanks in advance for your help.

[@JEDiTV]

They’re just “Wonder Wad” .36 caliber lubed wads that I picked up, probably from Sportsman’s Warehouse or some such place. There are many different varieties that I’ve seen I don’t think you necessarily need the “Wonder Wad” name brand ones. Hope that helps. -Jed

[@williambarnette1049]

@@JEDiTV absolutely thanks

[@reachvictoria3386]

I love the percussion revolver requirement for this category. Percussion rifles and shotguns were also fairly prevalent in the West for some time. Are there any side matches that use percussion ignition systems for the long guns in CAS? I have never heard of them if there are.

[@JEDiTV]

No, there aren’t any side matches that use percussion rifles. If you watch my video from the 2019 CA State Master Gunfighter there was a shooter using one on that stage. But, that was just for fun… and it was that! -Jed 🤠

[@reachvictoria3386]

@@JEDiTV very cool. A flintlock, no less! It’s good to see CAS embracing all levels of awesome from every angle. 👊🏻

[@JEDiTV]

Yes! It was awesome. Glad ya found it. 😃

[@elenas4878]

@@JEDiTV Oh crap, that means I can't use my Burnside

[@kennethholloway5051]

What other rifle's are available?

[@JEDiTV]

Trapdoor, Rolling Block, Handi-Rifle… those are the first ones that come to mind. I might have covered those in my Plainsman episode (if not there should be a link to the book on that episode). Also, we’ll be looking at at least one of those in the next “Plainsman Load Out” episode. -Jed 🤠

[@Droodog127]

back in the day , we were re-qualifying for work and doing combat shotgun quals- one guy loaded a roll of Certs mints 🤣 another guy under the timer loaded all his rounds backwards 🤨

[@JEDiTV]

😂 My muscle memory says to grab shotgun shells when I go to my belt. I’m still reminded of the time I came up with a 12 gauge shell instead of a 1911 mag 😂 talk about “round peg not fitting into a square hole”. -Jed 🤠

[@that1guy764]

Hey, I've seen your Brown Bowler Hat in a few previous episodes and I want one just like it, where'd you get it?

[@JEDiTV]

Hatter Art Fawcett (retired) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2iokpygjZl4oqM

[@chrischiampo7647]

Great Smoke Show Jed 💨💨💨💨🔫😊 Always Love Every Episode When You Say Hammer Shotgun Would The 1897 Winchester Qualify or The 1902 Winchester Lever Action

[@JEDiTV]

I was specifically referring to the Hammered “Double Barrel” shotgun. But, yes the 1887 Lever Action shotgun is allowed in Plainsman. The ‘97 PUMP shotgun is not. Make sure to check out my PLAINSMAN rules episode here on KZbin. -Jed 🤠

[@chrischiampo7647]

@@JEDiTV Thank You Going to it Now Jed 😊😊😊

[@chickensandwich1589]

Are there any comps that use the 1859 sharps like rifles and muzzleloading shotguns? Those seem more fitting for use with a civil war era cap and ball wheel gun to me...

[@JEDiTV]

Not that I’m aware of.

[@barryhawbaker3073]

Did you do anything with the front sight on your sharps carbine?? Mine shoots so darn high.

[@JEDiTV]

Not a dang thing. But, I bought it used so I don’t know if anything had been done to it prior to me purchasing it. I shot it for years before I ever missed a shot with it. -Jed 🤠

[@TombstoneJudge1879]

Having recently purchased the 1851 pietta navy revolvers as well as the 1860 richards Mason conversions mostly due to your program. My question is where are you getting percussion caps for the 51s?

[@JEDiTV]

That is a great question! And, honestly, I’m out 🤷‍♂️ I’ve been running of from back-stock but I haven’t seen ‘em on the shelves in close to three years.

[@TombstoneJudge1879]

Any thoughts on the DIY caps? Desperate times and all

[@JEDiTV]

@@TombstoneJudge1879 - I don’t have any experience with them, other than word “through the grapevine” that it works.

[@TombstoneJudge1879]

I was able to find #11 CTI caps at a local outdoors store. So maybe there is hope. Love your shows btw

[@soylentgreen7074]

Just learning 45-70 black powder reloading myself. I have starline brass as well. Over time what’s your experience on case life? Do you anneal them? I don’t anneal 45 Colt for BP and have been fine. Have some 45-70 loaded up but yet to fire.

[@JEDiTV]

I haven't had to throw out any cases yet... Most of 'em have been fired a few dozen times. I don't anneal them. -Jed 🤠

[@soylentgreen7074]

@@JEDiTV thanks

[@JEDiTV]

You’re welcome @@soylentgreen7074

[@kenedmisten7995]

Thank you for such a great video. You hit on all cool guns and nice to follow a little historically correctness. At a SASS event I picked up a ASM Sharps and thanks to you I may find parts. Mine has set triggers and is having trigger problems. I used a trapdoor on sort of similar event and it worked great for me. Could you have pulled the hammer back to full cocked right of the bat? The hammer shotguns are allowed to be staged cocked. Some people say it is hard on the firing pin on the Sharps to drop the bolt with the hammer down (They say the bolt could sear firing pin)? Thanks again for interesting video.

[@JEDiTV]

You’re welcome. Hope VTI can help you out with parts. I don’t see anything in the rules to prevent staging the Trapdoor with the hammer back, action open. Why didn’t I think of that? That would have saved me some time. 🤦‍♂️ I’ve also heard that about shearing the firing pin on a Sharps… I load it this way all the time. Have I just been lucky? Or will it actually damage the firing pin? 100’s of round in… only time will tell I guess.

[@stupideverett8350]

eek! so cool! do you know if there is a junior action shooter club/society? I really want to get into action shooting but I think i’m too young.

[@JEDiTV]

As long as you are with an adult most clubs will let you start at 13. Parents consent and all that. Check with your folks and then have ‘em take you to a local club for more info. -Jed 🤠

[@halfcirclehranch]

Out of curiosity, what are the caliber requirements, and is it required to be shot duelist, or double duelist?

[@JEDiTV]

If memory serves me correctly .32 or larger percussion. And, Duelist is required. Details here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emWUp4WeZb1kp8U -Jed 🤠

[@elenas4878]

Hi, JedI, I proudly own a genuine 1863 54 cal 4th generation Burnside Carbine, am I allowed to use it in Plainsman side match? Thanks for your opinion about it! I would also use my 5th generation Manhattan Firearms 36 cal navy ( 6 shots) revolvers and my French antique Lefaucheux 16 gauge side by side shotgun manufactured around 1890! Thanks!

[@JEDiTV]

Howdy, I am not familiar with the Burnside Carbine. I saw on another comment where you deduced that you could not use it in competition, how did you come to that conclusion? Being unfamiliar with that particular firearm I’m not sure either way really but I don’t see anything specific in the Plainsman rule book excluding it. -Jed 🤠

[@elenas4878]

@@JEDiTV H Jed i, my Burnside is a percussion carbine, like the first Sharps. It uses an unusual ice-cream cone shaped brass cartridge but there's no primer, I have to put a percussion cap on the nipple. But with practice it can be reloaded pretty fast. Also, it's a 54 cal bullet.

[@JEDiTV]

@@elenas4878 - Interesting. The Plainsman rules do specifically say “single-shot rifle firing a traditional blackpowder rifle or pistol caliber cartridge”… I would interpret that to mean a cartridge with a primer… 🤷‍♂️ But, I would think most Match Directors would allow you to use that in most Plainsman events. Certainly it’s something that could be used for Long Range. But, I’d check with the folks on the SASS Wire before getting geared up and heading to a match. 😉 -Jed 🤠

[@elenas4878]

@@JEDiTV Thanks a lot, Jed, I'm shooting the old lady at the range and it's a surprisingly accurate gun for an 160 years old civil war carbine I would like to use it in Plainsman matches with the other antiques I got, I'll check with the single action clubs in my area.

[@JEDiTV]

Great. Do let me know what they decide. -Jed

[@mattsere4435]

under SASS rules can your shotgun have a rubber recoil pad?

[@JEDiTV]

Yes indeed. -Jed 🤠

[@IronSmith358]

More load outs

[@JEDiTV]

That is definitely on the list!

[@HellgateSASS3302]

On your 1851 Navies: What replacement nipples did you install? I've never seen factory nipples with a beveled top flash hole. Did you "cone" the tops of the nipples?

[@JEDiTV]

Howdy Hellgate, they are the TRESO nipples. I didn’t do anything to ‘em other than screw ‘em in.

[@ZlyCholesterol]

Hammer shotguns are sure more fitting, but more expensive and not as available as hammerless. CAS is already quite expensive to start, let people have old russian IZ and Baikals :)

[@JEDiTV]

Absolutely Sinbad, I agree, it is better to have folks playing the game with hammerless shotguns than not being able to afford to play at all. Perhaps a better way for me to phrase that would have been to suggest that those with Hammered Shotguns be placed into a separate category like “modern” vs “traditional”… and that might complicate things more. 🤷‍♂️ But, like I said in the video if I need to pick up a little speed or the competition is a little close I’m not ashamed to grab up that hammerless single-trigger to gain a couple of seconds. -Jed 🤠

[@ZlyCholesterol]

@@JEDiTV yup, agree with that🙂

[@michal.abramowicz]

I have to get hammer shotgun after this vid...

[@JEDiTV]

Glad I could help 😉 -Jed

[@tjfritts9013]

I'll let my idiot flag fly for the sake of curiosity. With the carbine (or shotgun for that matter), is it permitted to have rounds held in hand while you fire? Like stripping three of the .45-70 rounds out of the belt, firing one by one (obviously) and loading from the hand rather than from the belt? Seems like that'd have to shave fractions of a second off the clock and that'd start adding up to a big savings.

[@JEDiTV]

Yes, absolutely. And you’ll see me doing more of that on the next Plainsman Load Out video where I use my Trapdoor. In fact you might see that on the first episode of the 2021 Washington State Championship match during the Plainsman clip I showed. Great question, by the way. -Jed 🤠

[@tjfritts9013]

@@JEDiTV ​ @JED iTV Excellent to hear. I was thinking maybe there was some safety sally rule about it. BTW, excellent work at 6:45 in this vid. Don't know if that was intentional, but in your position I'd just smile and own it as by design. ;) I'd imagine quite a few tried that seeing the dropper's positioning, and likely didn't fare as well.

[@JEDiTV]

Tried to get all four in two shots so I didn’t have to reload. Didn’t quite get that one. 😊

[@ronklug6395]

You are destroying your Sharps. You need to half cock first before opening.

[@JEDiTV]

I’ve heard that a time or two in this comment section. I appreciate the concern and I have been working on half-cock, open, load, close, full-cock, fire. Sometimes, the adrenaline gets to me and I get in a bit of a hurry.