Plane LOSES COMMUNICATION on approach to Zurich | El Al B738

An El Al Boeing 737-800, operating flight LY-347 from Tel Aviv (Israel) to Zurich (Switzerland), was on approach to Zurich about to intercept the localizer for runway 14 when the crew suddenly was unable to communicate with ATC on all three radios, set the transponder to loss of communication and continued for a safe landing on runway 14 about 10 minutes later. The aircraft vacated the runway and taxied to the apron behind a "Follow Me" car.
The aircraft was able to depart for the return flight after about 100 minutes on the ground and reached Tel Aviv without further incident.
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[@mjparker900]

I did my first circuits after initial solo in a small airport on the French coast. I only speak English, and English is the international language for flight there, but learnt the pattern reports in French just in case. On my 3rd circuit (6th in total) I lost comms with tower, panicked, recovered, squarked nordo then landed. I found my instructor having lunch with the tower controller on his lunch break. I asked why he didn't tell me the tower was going un-manned and he said he hadn't wanted to confuse me. ?? - a good lesson though.

[@pfsantos007]

431P great aviator thanks for your help.

[@MikeM275]

I got my licenses and ratings in the 1980's, (up to and including ATP). I remember my IFR instructor telling me after a flight plan has been approved, once in the air, if you have a 7600 you fly your entire flight plan including landing. This was pre---a LOT of today's electronics. Of course you taxi "on the lights" not behind a car lol. Nevertheless, when I was flying way back when, this would have been SOP for a 7600 flight.

[@gillesbueno1153]

Video does not say if pilots were in visual with terrain or in full IFR. I guess it was not the first time pilots were landing in Zurich, helping to take the right decision to turn back to the airport…

[@TheButterZone]

1:31 think that was "no joy"

[@der.Schtefan]

What kind of radio failure becomes fixed after 100 minute turn around on the ground? Does El Al have an engineering Base in Zurich?

[@uwllradar]

0:45 seems the pilot readback a wrong frequency. The atc says One two five three zero, and the pilot replies One two five thirty-five. And I'm wondering why tower didn't clear the landing despite the failure

[@iain8837]

It could be, but it was very garbled, but the fact that they didn't just switch back to the old frequency, try another published frequency, or at least Guard, points towards a hardware fail or a major button screw up of some sort.

[@robburgundy9539]

Sounds like he said 125.35

[@callnishanth]

They always do have the frequencies documented on paper in the cockpit as a backup.

[@m4nu507]

These are trained pilots, i would safely assume they tried going to the previous frequency, 121.5 or switching to tower frequency which would be on their approach charts before squawking 7600.

[@bestbearyt]

i think it's a problem with the audio quality. what was heard sounded like 125.3-bye not five to me, and it feels like there was a cut after 125.3 to 'bye'. this audio cut seems to be present also in the first transmission by ATC, the instruction to reduce 180 knots.

[@ginvr]

That time you pray you don't have to do a TOGA

[@PeterNGloor]

the problem here is that the terrain get pretty high towards the west.

[@clqudy4750]

Always comforting when a middle East airliner stops communicating...🤨😳

[@Lesloi6227]

Interesting

[@CUfkes]

So the aircraft landed without any communication with anybody?

[@Meitzi]

Well, it can't stay in the sky forever.

[@PluggedLie]

Well, he squaked 7600

[@PeterNGloor]

@@PluggedLie bec he (they) realized that they could not hear the vectors anymore, which is very dangerous.

[@paulsinclair3401]

Being an El Al flight, I'm sure that there would be some concern about it going quiet with everything going on at the moment..... Especially as we have had incidences of the Iranians and Russians hacking aircraft over the last 6 months or so! It would be interesting to find out what the ultimate cause was?

[@jmWhyMe]

My thoughts exactly. Comms failure on LY is very suspicious!

[@ImpendingJoker]

@@jmWhyMe Not really. This happens more often than you realize.

[@jmWhyMe]

@@ImpendingJoker loss of comms may be very frequent, but... With anything that happens with Israel, one's thoughts automatically go to the worst, especially if you are Jewish and military like me...

[@williamfrank7565]

@@jmWhyMe perhaps because JEWS are the worst.....do ya think...LOL

[@williamfrank7565]

@@jmWhyMe convert

[@douglasthompson2740]

Hate these videos with no outcomes provided.

[@the_flight_records]

If I could reach any outcomes you can be sure that I would share it.

[@12345fowler]

Just another hater.

[@maurice7413]

Here is the outcome, it doesn't provide the exact cause, but it does provide that it was solved: "The aircraft was able to depart for the return flight after about 100 minutes on the ground and reached Tel Aviv without further incident. The aircraft subsequently remained on the ground in Tel Aviv for about 45 hours before returning to service."

[@basfinnis]

If Russia is barred from European airspace why aren't these bozos?

[@BernhardWelzel]

Because russia is a bully and attacking Ukraine, trying to commit another genozid on the ukraine population and has committed war crimes beyond anything that seemed to be possible.The goal of russia is to "extinguish" ukraine people, culture. It is also a big land grap and an attack against all of europe. Hamas committed a terrorist attack against Israel and Israel is doing whatever it is doing currently. If you can´t see the different you need help.

[@joelbenz9840]

​@@BernhardWelzelthe "whatever it is doing" is objectively way closer to a genocide compared to what Russia is doing. If you ban Russian aircraft in this situation, you should also ban Israeli aircraft for the sake of equal standards. But well, when it comes to humiliating human rights it depends on who is doing so, and some are on the "good" side and some on the "bad" side.

[@BernhardWelzel]

@@joelbenz9840 i kindly disagree. What russia is doing is a crime against humanity. Russia is following in the foodsteps of the Soviets, trying to repeat what they did during the Holodomor. Russia is conducting a war against mankind and specially Europe. It is not equal standards. What is happening in Gaza is also a crime, just that in Gaza both sides have blood on their hands. Remember the day after Hamas attacked Israel when the idiots celebrated on the streets in Gaza? Study the history of the Israel and you understand that it is a very different situation. In Gaza/Israel there is no "good" side. So stop comparing the two conflicts.

[@user-px5ox8sb1p]

Send my regards to putin you bozo

[@Iajdkqosmqa91]

@@joelbenz9840 what the other person is talking is typical western ignorance. They don’t study the context to the story. They will never understand that israel is an illegal state founded on stolen land. Palestinians in Gaza live in an open air prison and every breath is controlled. They had enough so they attacked in retaliation. Freedom for Palestine! 🇵🇸

[@williamfrank7565]

would an EL AL crash be a bad thing???

[@timk8869]

maybe i am reading your comment wrong, but are u implying that if the plane crashed it wouldnt be a bad thing? bc if thats what u are implying then thats just disgusting

[@PeterNGloor]

William - do you want innocent passengers and crew to die? Strange way of thinking. This is a civilian plane.