PLANET3 installation instructions for 2019-2020 Specialized Levo, Levo SL & Kenevo (Gen2)

[@graemecorrin4756]

It just works perfectly! Simple but detailed installation support, unbelievable speed of delivery, outstanding communication throughout the purchase and installation. If you haven't taken the plunge yet ... just do it!

[@chris8949]

This is simply a great way to ride without restriction. Got my Set yesterday and it was installed in 5 min. without any issues. My Kenevo runs free ans safe now and it is lots of fun ! Thx Alex, great product !

[@davidluxenburg8120]

Works like a charm. Makes the Ebike feel so much smoother without the limit cut off.

[@larrys8150]

Most informative video Ive ever seen. Great camera angle, great directions, great humor. Now all I have to do is buy it!

[@planet3bike]

I don't know what you're waiting for, Larry! How am I to buy 2 tons of flour and 12 pallets of toilet paper to survive this COVID-19 crap without your business?!

[@2092981t]

Your hack for the Creo SL is great!

[@davenlois]

My 2020 bike is bought (Vado) and my Planet 3 is ordered. Breath being held :)

[@TroyCollier]

5 days to ship to maimi Florida from Croatia via DHL and easily reached 29 MPH test run on the flats. Installed in 10min!

[@thedog77]

Great video. Love the humour. As soon as i get my 2020 bike my order will be in with you. Thanks for the video 👍👍

[@planet3bike]

Breath is being held! :)

[@mohdfaridmohdarif4230]

Hi planet3, do you have email contact? I need to order one. Your website cant access today. Thanks

[@bernhardager4911]

I Have the Planet3 on my 2020 Levo now for four weeks and I'm super happy!!!

[@planet3bike]

I'm super happy that you're super happy! :D

[@mikee8244]

@@planet3bike that's what she said- lol. I'm going to be in touch this week 👍🤙🤘

[@hamishr]

Now I’ll need to order that Bear Skin... LOL! Cheers mate!

[@brad571]

After watching a few of your videos I ended up buying this kit for my como 4.0. Shipped super fast (about 3 days from Croatia to the US) and installation was super easy. Not sure if it was worth it on my particular bike since it already tops out at 28.5mph stock. I Have noticed the bike is more responsive in the 25+ mph area which is great! I'm sure with a bigger chainring I can push 30 easily. Really good buy if you have the older como models or restricted to 18-20mph. Thanks, Planet3!

[@planet3bike]

I did not pay him to write this, I swear!

[@carlosmagalhaes4579]

Very fast to send it took one single day, the instructions are very clear and, the planet3 works perfectly , 5 stars

[@planet3bike]

I'll take it! :>

[@Aquariumike]

Seriously, the best thing since sliced bread! This guy acts fast, is sharp en has build and easy way to tune up ur EBike, thanks for that. In the video it actually looks harder than it is, easy peacy to install this. I hit 62Km per hour on my bike on my first test ride, damn thats brutal.

[@planet3bike]

He's prone to over-complicating :D

[@Aquariumike]

@@planet3bike never take the easy route ;) Make life hard on yourself

[@jacobm9574]

@@Aquariumike any problems with the plastic breaking or motor blows? Thank you

[@Aquariumike]

@@jacobm9574 hey man, it was crazy, I was going 178 Km per hour when the whole bike exploded and left a crater in the ground. Basically all windows in an area of 12 kilometers around me where scattered. The plastic must be made of Chernobyl waste or so since all animals near it got strange mutations the next years, really ants as big as elephant with 46 legs and such. Furthermore I would recommend anyone to install this awesome gadget piece to safely enjoy your bike.

[@switchbaxr]

Hey Alex, Thanks for putting together the videos, definitely very helpful to understand the nuances of the install. Also thanks for using your engineering talent to spend all the hours to make this gadget work. I installed the unit last night and tested it this morning. Works great! No more speed restriction! I put my hand on the outer casing after a long 4 mile downhill and it was NOT warm so I think I'm all set for more adventures ahead. Cheers and have a great day! My advice to those who buy this...#wtfv (watch the f*@#'n video!). Cheers, Ron

[@AbsoIuteLegend]

Great product and detailed video

[@georgesolomon5696]

"That's one pizza slice for you Americans"...LOL

[@planet3bike]

Yeah, and it's not a 1/4 either, it's a 1/8! :P

[@mikee8244]

@@planet3bike 😀

[@monsterogi69]

Pozdrav iz Slovenije!

[@nickdinnage7113]

Hi, great vid. Will this or similar fit a 2021 Cube Reaction?

[@MrSmoothasf]

Not likely we have a swing arm sensor

[@tobyfrith2682]

Hi Planet3, I have a YT Decoy 2019. Iv been looking for a suitable device install. Do you have a model that would fit on my bike? If so are you still able to post at this time with the current situation? Thanks, Toby

[@planet3bike]

Hi Toby. The answers are yes & yes, but please shoot me an email at info[at]planet3[dot]bike :)

[@Leowavekid]

Cant wait to get mine!.. it has arrived to US but not delivered yet !

[@dabbyhaze1502]

Did you get it and how long did it take?

[@Leowavekid]

Dabby Haze yup.. i got it, took about 3 weeks or so..

[@JusGarc1981]

Yojimbo007 whats the verdict?

[@mikee8244]

@@Leowavekid yes. What do you think? How are you getting on with it?

[@Leowavekid]

Mike E have not installed it yet... bike is fine without it... maybe down the line i will try it.

[@leeoliver7151]

Mines coming fingers crossed. I can’t handle how slow my bike is

[@planet3bike]

Pedal faster, Lee! :p

[@j3di3]

loved the full stack developers joke :)

[@planet3bike]

Yeah, my ex-roomie was a FULL STACK BRO.. basically a functional 'tard for anything other than "webmaster-ing" :D

[@mickreynolds3065]

This may have been addressed elsewhere, but will this work on a 2019 Kenevo?

[@planet3bike]

Yes. Not this exact version, but every Specialized ebike is covered by a PLANET3.

[@richardhutchins8504]

Has any body brought up the question about the best way to set up mission Control with this product. Can I still us it to modify my output in Eco and trail and have turbo unrestricted?

[@planet3bike]

Mission Control modes are set independently of the PLANET3. But there is no way to have just one mode "derestricted" as PLANET3 will just work all the time making the bike think it's going slower. However, the speed limit will naturally self-impose based on your leg power, gradient, mode used etc. What I mean to say is: it's rather hard to go past 25 km/h in Eco on anything other than very flat ground or even a slight downhill gradient. The thing to note is: you can't really use Mission Control for recording rides since the distance is going to be off by a factor of ~3 and it only uses GPS to draw the map and ONLY the bike's speed sensor for logging distance and speed. So, any feature such as "I want to do XY miles and have Z% battery left" will not work unless you divide everything by 3 yourself. To that end, best thing to do is just switch to BLEvo for ride recording and even assistance mode levels. It's a much more powerful app than Mission Control will ever be, plus it enables you to set a Speed multiplier option to 3.00 which will correct the speed and distance displayed in BLEvo when PLANET3 is installed. I should not that the motor (bike's internal distance counter) will still log 3x less miles from the moment you install the PLANET3 and there's no way around this.

[@oversteer46]

Awesome video and funny!

[@3Balloons]

Can i use this to derestrict xiomi qicycle

[@pewtypshow3265]

I have a levo gen 3 2024 titanium that allready dose 28 to 30 mph now from factory... What would happen if you just remove the magnet from the bike wheel completely and leave it like that will the bike mortar run at full capacity

[@planet3bike]

After 6 pedal strokes if the magnet is not registered by the sensor you get an error. A simpler solution for your objective would be to just not turn on the bike. :)

[@simonblythe4921]

Am I able to use this on a 2021 Specialized turbo Como??

[@boggybigpants9462]

Good video ....what material is the planet made of ? ...as we all know moving parts wear ...would you advise a anti friction lube prior to fitting ?

[@planet3bike]

It's made out of a hybrid material that's based on a PLA but doesn't suffer from the main drawbacks (frailty etc.). As far as wear goes, if installed properly - it'll work basically forever. I give 1 year & 10k miles/15k km warranty. No lubes, no maintenance, no problems. :)

[@gabort71]

@@planet3bike Would lube actually be detrimental? Running this dry is clearly possible, but surely it would make some sense to add a little grease? Or would that not play nice with the plastic involved?

[@planet3bike]

@@gabort71 grease attracts dust, forms a friction paste.. Run it dry and it'll be happy. :)

[@Robbrown92]

wow €100 for a printed part thats pretty high considering levociraptor is not much more and isnt a breakable printed part

[@planet3bike]

We have something much better than Levociraptor, but it's not publicaly available yet. If interested contact us via email. 😉

[@pewtypshow3265]

Couldn't you just remove the magnet from the back brake disc and that would do the job simple and cheap AsF+×k

[@richardhutchins8504]

Hi, this is a very useful video. Do you have something for 2020 kenevo comp with stock revel wheels and Magura MDR-P 220 rotors? Thanks!

[@planet3bike]

Hi Richard, the same PLANET3 described in the video fits the 2020 Kenevo, and Magura rotors are fine. Only Hope Floaters are a "problem" in as much as you need a special version of the PLANET3 for them.

[@CA-cv6bs]

Hey are the problems with a single planet magnet and gen 3 TL just possible with a future software update or do they already exist for sure? Going dual magnets sucks because of reduced speed limit ... thought about ordering one for my new bike but 38 kmh is not that much tbh ... i am disappointed regarding this development. :(

[@planet3bike]

At the moment (May 2021) the most recent firmware version for the motor is 7.4.2. and works perfectly fine with a single planet configuration on several 2022 Gen3 bikes (and 2019-2021 models with the same firmware). HOWEVER, there is literally a handful of bikes out there in the world which produced a low-speed pedaling error (which does NOT cut the motor's assistance, it just flashes the magnet error via TCU but the bike keeps working fine). I was not able to replicate this error on several of my bikes and bikes I've got access to. It seems to be a phantom electrical issue that's a combination of hardware versions of the TCU and the 7.4.2. firmware. I'd be surprised if Specialized knows how to solve it, but it seems directly related to their attempts at breaking the "walk mode" feature further and further to the general annoyance of users which is well documented on emtb forums. However, somewhere down the line Specialized might go the Shimano route and implement a low-speed gear ratio detection which would disable the 3:1 PLANET3 (single planet) configuration at low speeds and in low gears (such as 1st to 4th). That's why even the first PLANET3 device ever made was designed to satisfy the condition that enables it to work with dual planets in a perfect phase (sum of the teeth of the sun gear and ring gear divided by the number of planets has to be a whole number). Goes without saying that each device after it satisfies the same condition. Anyway, most users find that 38 km/h is still a lot better than 25 km/h and perfectly adequate for 95% of riding. I agree with you that it sucks and I still want the power to be there whenever I throw in a pedal stroke at any speed and any cadence. That's why my little brain is overheating working on a general solution to this problem. :)

[@CA-cv6bs]

@@planet3bike Did you get any further feedback of Gen3 and Planet3 errors? I am about to receive my bike soon. Curious to see how it will turn out with single planet config.

[@bastogne315]

23mph beats 15 any day 😂

[@WxshMeLuck]

Does this work with giant fathom e+2 pro 2022

[@toddconnolly3060]

I have a 2021 Pivot Shuttle with the new Ep8 motor, magnet is now on rotor? Do you have a kit for this one? Thanks Todd

[@planet3bike]

Problem with the Shimano is related to their firmware which after version 4.7.1. restricts the range of allowed cadence-vs-speed in such a way that only a ratio of 1,3:1 doesn't produce sensor errors (W011), so I've kinda given up on planetary gearsets for newer Shimano bikes. Ones that were already covered I produced compatible ratios for, and for people in the US 30% bump from 20 mph is enough, but for anyone in the EU it's really not and it's too complicated and expensive for what it provides. Check out eMax tuning for Shimano and ask them what is doable with EP8. :)

[@bizbkak2967]

is this compatible on specialized turbo levo alloy gen 3 mullet ? how much $ ?

[@markhinchelwood4738]

Hey PLANET3 - I have a 2021 Merida running a Shimano ep8 - I’m in Australia which has a 25kph limit (it sucks) Can this kit be installed? I have seen mention in the comments about possible issues with newer bikes but just want to know if this is possible for Merida brand bikes. Thanks again!

[@planet3bike]

Hi Mark, there were a few complications with Shimano since I last published my KZbin videos on the Decoy/Shimano PLANET3. Mainly, with the September 2019 update of the Shimano DU-E8000 motor firmware (version 4.7.1.), they have further narrowed down the range of the allowed speed-vs-cadence to a point where only a 1.3:1 ratio of a PLANET3 (30% bump in speed) will not cause W011 speed sensor errors on occasion when climbing stuff in lower gears. The ratio on KZbin and which works on older firmware versions (4.5.1 - 4.6.0) was ~1,6:1 which gave you a 60% bump in speed. Now, for all the Shimano equipped bikes that I already covered before this update, I have produced new internals that work perfectly with the 4.7.1. firmware but as I said, the ratio is 1.3:1. This is usually enough for people located in the USA and other areas in the world where the speed limit is 20 mph and then PLANET3 gets them to 26 mph at no risk to their warranty, but for people in the UK/EU and other parts of the world where the limit is 25 km/h or 15.5 mph, a 30% increase means "only" 20,2 mph. Most claim this is enough for them, but the fact is that even I find it too low so I've stopped any development of PLANET3s for newer Shimano equipped bikes. Basically, you're better off looking into software solutions for Shimano. :)

[@markhinchelwood4738]

@@planet3bike Thanks for the reply - appreciate the effort.

[@2092981t]

Do you have a hack for the HPR 50 motor on the new BMC Roadmachine 01 AMP X Two 20232?

[@planet3bike]

Hi Steve, I can't say/don't know. The TQ motor as such can work with PLANET3 because it does on the Trek Fuel EXe models, but as far as BMC Roadmachine goes - I haven't seen the bike live, I don't know if the speed sensor is in the dropout and magnet on the brake rotor (or is it on chainstay and spokes) and if the hub profile on the braking side is compatible. If you have the bike and can take some photos, just poke me via email found on the webshop. :)

[@edsinofsky]

informative. thanks.

[@KRLE2582]

so it would fit perfect for a levo turbo comp 2020 ? im gona order this thing .)) Nice you croatian ? .)))

[@andreacolombo3190]

should i use oil for lube the movement or is better without lube?

[@planet3bike]

Just like a good woman, PLANET3 brings its own lube. :> i.e. no, don't use lube. It only attracts fine dust/dirt and can form a friction paste inside. Keep it stock, if you dip it in mud, clean and dry with a paper towel, put back the cover and go. Basically, it should be set and forget and last forever (if properly installed).

[@bastogne315]

Libe ur gf not ur bike.❤

[@cni6855]

Any solution for Nexus?

[@chickenclips]

my goodness this video is funny... Love your sense of humor as a company and person. Just purchased my unit a few minutes ago.. Can't wait to get it. I purchased for the Giant Reign E+1 Pro - is the installation very different?

[@planet3bike]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHa2on-OptqjjK8 this would be for the Giant as a dual planet config is mandatory, also there's no sensor carrier replacement on the Giant. :)

[@chickenclips]

@@planet3bike thank you sir

[@HirschyB]

Looking to get this for a Turbo Levo 2020. Any tips for mission control settings? (Support/Peak Power) Just wondered if you'd run different numbers once deristricted.. Thanks!

[@HirschyB]

btw this is kinda a different question to the one below. I'm just wondering if you've found yourself setting different levels once deristricted? Like30/100 Eco etc.

[@planet3bike]

The only thing gone is the speed limit, there's no need to change anything to the modes of assistance unless you find out that you'd want to do so (for example, restrict your Turbo so that you get more battery life if you can't control yourself from speeding :p).

[@jfmontoya1]

Are you planning making this a single or sealed piece, looks like to me that is prone to fail or wear down due debris or if pieces move along.

[@planet3bike]

If you can point out to me which part exactly looks like it's not sealed and prone to fail/wear, I'd be more than happy to give it another look. Otherwise, I'm sticking with the latest revision and installation tool that's provided since it seems to be working on 5000+ units :)

[@makki4064]

Hi, forgive me if im wrong, but how that is different from the device (Levociraptor Gen 2) to unlock speed limit without mechanical interference?

[@planet3bike]

Well, as you've said - one is an electronic device, other is a mechanical one. Without going into details, it's basically whatever your preference is. Some people don't want to mess with wires and potential problems with firmware incompatibly, so they get the PLANET3. Some people don't want a device that's "visible" on the bike, so they get a chip. Both have their pros and cons, I guess.. :)

[@osinskivalerio3886]

Купив таке для свого Turbo Levo,дуже задоволений 👍

[@YVRUDNK]

какая скорость максимальная?

[@osinskivalerio3886]

@@YVRUDNK 40км +

[@gustavimbb]

Does it work on 2017 Specialized Turbo Levo FSR 6Fattie?

[@planet3bike]

Hi @gustavimbb, yes it does! :)

[@narkovalentin8241]

I want to buy a link ?

[@planet3bike]

Hi Narko, well it's in the description of the video :) But you can also just visit the webshop directly here: test.planet3.bike/shop/

[@gerritkracht9424]

Can this be installed on a: Specialized Creo Sl Comp Carbon Evo

[@planet3bike]

Hi Gerrit, well - not this exact version since it's a 6-bolt, but if you check out the PLANET3 Center Lock video that's on the channel - that version is for your Creo SL.

[@craigwest8684]

Don’t know why but my levo with same hub as in the video showed speed sensor fault with the planet3 fitted. Removed planet 3 and fault gone. Any suggestions or anyone else had same problem?

[@planet3bike]

Absolute first thing to check is if the sensor stayed bottomed out in the new sensor carrier. If that's all good, then it's 99,7% the speed sensor issue.. It's happened a handful of times before and for no apparent reason these go to hell. This Creo SL sensor diagnostics video might help shed some light: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGS9loypos-CfKs Basically, try it with the bike upside down and just spin the wheel by hand and look at what Mission Control (or BLEvo) are saying. If it's registering speed, then it works, if not - try moving the sensor closer but mind the orientation. A final (if possible) check would be to switch the rear wheel with someone else (yours with the PLANET3 on his bike). After a sensor replacement (~25 EUR), 100% of the time PLANET3 worked.

[@andreelliott6161]

Brilliant job thanks 😊

[@nicksadler9797]

Will this work with giant Stance E+ 2021 and will it void warranty with giant?

[@planet3bike]

Unfortunately, the rear end of the Stance E+ has the brake post mount in such a location that it prohibits the PLANET3 from being installed on the hub. :/ Otherwise, it'd work fine and not void the warranty in any way..

[@brunobraga6591]

Possivel na bike eléctrica pivot shuttle AM??

[@planet3bike]

Hi Bruno, please send us some photos of the rear hub end cap profile (braking side) along with information about the motor and the brake rotor to our email: [e-mail] :)

[@matschimatsch3931]

Is the device somehow effecting the guarantee given by specialized? Is the hack somehow recognizable by the specialized app/system?

[@planet3bike]

So long as you remove it before taking the bike into the shop for warranty - no. They can just see it has lower mileage for a given number of charge cycles, but that's easily explained by differences in fitness levels of different people, power modes used, battery sharing with friends etc.

[@matschimatsch3931]

Well then. Please answer my buying request. :) Dalibor

[@danielbreuer9879]

How about the brand new 2022 (Gen 3) models arriving this year? Specs are already out. I pre-ordered a S-WORKS Turbo Levo. Can you check and confirm if the PLANET3 installation will still be possible? Are you going to offer a new set or can we expect to simply use the "2019-2021 Specialized Turbo Levo (Gen2)" set you're selling for Gen 3? Thanks for a short reply!

[@planet3bike]

Hi Daniel, it already works and has been tested.. I'm just too lazy to update the lineup. :) If you are dying to order one, you can order the S-Works device for any model year and just put "2022 Gen3!" in the order notes. But it'll be up in a day or two.

[@danielbreuer9879]

@@planet3bike That's really great to know. Thank you for the fast reply!

[@danielbreuer9879]

@@planet3bike Another question related to this: I assume some values visible in the new MasterMind Turbo Control Unit (TCU) display might be wrong, because of the PLANET3 modification (e.g. average & max speed), correct? Values on e.g. motor and battery should not be affected, I assume?

[@planet3bike]

@@danielbreuer9879 Yes, the way the PLANET3 works is by making the bike think it's going 3x slower than it actually is, so it keeps assisting up to a 3x higher speed limit. The values will be 1/3 of the "real" and it'll be shown like that on the TCU and also logged in the motor. Basically, you end up with a low mileage bike that was ridden very slowly. :)

[@robhines4537]

​@@planet3bikebut doesn't match up with battery charge cycles.

[@domagojbengez8228]

Pozdrav Dali se mozda moze u Zagrebu kupit Planet 3?

[@planet3bike]

Sve se moze kad se hoce :>

[@Henji96]

Do you know how many nm the screws need to be tightened on the vado 3.0? Is it 5?

[@planet3bike]

It's always 6 Nm :)

[@Henji96]

@@planet3bike i appreciate the quick answer!

[@nickcarr5596]

Can you do this for a Whyte e160?

[@planet3bike]

Unfortunately, no.. that's a Bosch problem, however. But, I'm working on a solution for Bosch too and it should be ready soon-ish. :)

[@DL_fitness]

U from croatia? I need u in my life asap haha...

[@ricardossantos4198]

I whant one for trbo levo s-works 2020, where to order?

[@planet3bike]

Hi Ricardo, at planet3.bike :)

[@ricardossantos4198]

@@planet3bike , i already sent email to buy, still no answer from you..

[@planet3bike]

@@ricardossantos4198 Sorry, there's only one of me and today has been rather hectic. :) E-mail coming your way!

[@ricardossantos4198]

@@planet3bike , still no answer. [e-mail]

[@goonigoogoo5868]

do not get this. you just paid 10k for your bike. the chip is here online "PURE". for 149 euro. it is a very easy install DFIY in 20 min. . this thing is no good and has problems with thew computer reseting and going out all the time

[@derekswift969]

Do these work on a canondale moterra?

[@planet3bike]

Not for now, but it's a Bosch issue in general that's being worked on..

[@romantsvirkun9542]

увеличить скорость на specialized turbo vado можно?

[@osinskivalerio3886]

зайдите на сайт там есть моделі turbo vado , выбирите свою модель и вуаля (:

[@keithswick]

Anyone figure out how to trick a speedo yet for Strava purposes?

[@planet3bike]

Yeah, use BLEvo to record the ride, set the Speed multiplier in BLEvo to 3.00 so it'll read the correct distance and speed from the speed sensor, then upload the GPX file to Strava. Other than that, no deal. OR simply record Strava rides using GPS :)

[@korre2107]

Does this work on very slow speeds with one magnet, on levo comp -2020?

[@planet3bike]

Hi Stellan. Yep. Works perfectly even with 50T first gear.

[@korre2107]

PLANET3 Thank you for the Quick answer👍

[@jamesroyafm24]

i live in california. do you ship to the us? how do i order one?

[@planet3bike]

Hi James, I ship worldwide via DHL Express and you order one by visiting planet3.bike/ which will then take you to the "webshop" (or here's a direct link: test.planet3.bike/shop/) and there you use the filters to make your bike selection easier, compare the rear hub on the braking side with the photos in the gallery and that's it.

[@r0beh280]

Mine only came with three bolts, is that normal?

[@planet3bike]

Yes, but you also received a link to another video on the channel that contains the 2020 sun gear update. :)

[@leeoliver7151]

I can’t wait to show the boys who’s the daddy

[@redleaderone8429]

i got the levocisraptor because i dont trust DHL shipping to rip me off

[@planet3bike]

I don't know exactly how DHL shipping can rip you off if everything is in the price of the product, but hey.. more power to ya!

[@popshot26]

I will be receiving my 2021 Levo very soon. Specialized switched to Shimano SLR components on the Comp model. Do you think this will work ?

[@planet3bike]

Yep, I've got a compatible PLANET3 for Shimano MT510-B hub. One was sent today to a customer in Australia. :)

[@MN-ch7pc]

Interesting thing, but if mounted on a mountainbike you then are no more allowed to ride on trails or fireroads not even bikelanes in Austria because then you have an S-Pedelec. it is sothen seen as a "motorcycle" by the law. The police in my area does test eBikes...

[@hotdoug1000]

Man that sucks. I thot our UK puny 15mph was crap. Hope you can get something at least

[@BBTrailComs]

The police are not permitted to test your bike without probable cause. So unless you crash into somebody at a high high speed they're not going to test it. If you're just going fast and they don't have a speed timing device they can't test it It's outside of what they're permitted to do. You might want to learn a little bit more about the law in the United States. I'm quite familiar myself. Ordered mine today.

[@MN-ch7pc]

​@@BBTrailComs sorry, did you read my post exactly? I did not write anything about the USA! the USA is not bothering me of any kind. so if you wanna discuss you 1st have to read the main facts and then answer to that facts. and USA was not the main fact... so you simply have to learn to read clearly and slowly instead of telling anybody something about anywhere in the world ;-)

[@CA-cv6bs]

Can it be used with a Magura MT7 brake?

[@planet3bike]

Yep, but the brakes themselves don't matter. It's the brake rotors that affect PLANET3, but even with the MDR-P rotors it'll work since they're 2 mm thick at the 6-bolt interface.

[@CA-cv6bs]

@@planet3bike Just to be on the safe side - I can mount the MT7 (203 or 220 mm) on a Turbo Levo SL 2020 and simply follow this instruction to install PLANET3, correct?

[@planet3bike]

@@CA-cv6bs correct. :)

[@CA-cv6bs]

@@planet3bike Last question: When removing Planet3 from the bike, e.g. because of a motor damage, can the bike dealer find out about the previously installed Planet3 and therefore guarantee on the bike expires?

[@planet3bike]

@@CA-cv6bs No. They can say "you have a rather low mileage bike for your charge cycles" to which you can say "so?". And that'll be the end of that. There are too many plausible use case scenarios and differences between fat and out of shape people and fit cardio squirrels for them to be able to actually prove anything, so they won't even try.

[@DL_fitness]

Are u the guy on the planet3 info mail?

[@planet3bike]

Unfortunately, I am :(

[@DL_fitness]

@@planet3bike u from croatia? If u are..life is good haha

[@raoulilia]

That's what she said 😂😂

[@raoulilia]

Wan... Eeeeh toilet paper

[@rajusehmi]

why can't u make it in metal?

[@planet3bike]

It can be made out of anything, it just doesn't make sense to make it out of metal. Then you'd require a hydraulic press to fit everything and the axial distances would have to be picture perfect - meaning you'd have to center it somehow on things that aren't accurate (bolt heads, holes etc). The noise it'd make would also be terrible. It doesn't transmit any power or torque, doesn't heat up, doesn't wear out and does the job perfectly (so long as it's installed with the necessary gap between the sun gear and the ring gear). Now, if you had asked "why can't you injection mold it instead of 3D printing it" - that'd be a better question. :)

[@rajusehmi]

@@planet3bike ok im going to give it a go : )

[@markusbabic482]

Hallo Planet3, i send you a Email, want one. How to go on?? Thx M.Babic

[@markusbabic482]

back from driving, 25 sucks!!! Hvala na odgovoru!

[@noah.s3701]

i see this is 3d printed, could you be kind enough to send me the files so i can print it myself?

[@planet3bike]

Hilarious! :D

[@noah.s3701]

@@planet3bike okay other question, how much money do you want for the files

[@planet3bike]

@@noah.s3701 500 000 EUR will do, but then it's a lot cheaper and quicker to actually buy the product like everyone else. :) After all, DHL will deliver it to you ready to install within a few days from ordering no matter where you are in the world.

[@profex85]

Your a smart guy ! Gonna order this soon for my Rocky Mountain instinct powerplay 2021 💪🏻

[@videos40058]

lol i can just make a coil to act like a magnet or I can even give up on that sensor and inject a sewuencial shurcut to cheat the bike is running at low speeds or anything is needed, PLA is the worst idea to have when moving parts atfast speeds this is cancer.

[@planet3bike]

@@videos40058 Please, do all of that!

[@pewtypshow3265]

Help me out fella I've got specialised levo 2024 gen 3 motor... If I remove the magnet from the back break disc won't that just Tele the computer it's not moving at all & will work at full power constantly..

[@videos40058]

@@planet3bike I would not find any fun with that. But I just given you an idea . Think of it… depending on you technological limitations you will find it or not a good idea. But hopefully someone that knows the deal will read our chat and then be like… - good idea i can make it. And this is how you go forward 😛

[@ravimtb2580]

I see you upgraded ur suspension, what fork and shock is that? And what mudguard is in the back? Will order a Planet3 very soon for my levo!

[@planet3bike]

36 GRIP2 160mm at the front, DPX2 210x55 at the back, mudguard is Mudhugger Shorty flipped backwards and with some added holes. :)

[@ravimtb2580]

@@planet3bike thanks!

[@azsk69]

"A slice of pizza for you Americans." Haha thanks I understand now. Jk

[@planet3bike]

But not the 1/4 slice. A regular European 1/8 slice..

[@azsk69]

@@planet3bike shit I over tightened

[@planet3bike]

@@azsk69 nobody's gonna know.. How would they know?

[@ariemcd276]

Not sure if I missed it in the comments but will this work on a 2021 turbo levo? USA version.

[@planet3bike]

Yes, except the 2021 Turbo Levo base model. All the compatible models are listed at test.planet3.bike/shop/

[@ariemcd276]

How do I purchase one?

[@ariemcd276]

Never mine I see how. Thanks

[@jimimichalscheck4257]

@@planet3bike Will you be making a kit for the 2021 Turbo Levo - base model? Or is there a way to get it to work (like new brakes or something)

[@planet3bike]

@@jimimichalscheck4257 The problem is the rear hub's braking side end cap.. it has a concave profile which in and of itself would not be a problem as I already make replacement end caps for a lot of hubs. The problem is that the end cap is press fitted onto the internal axle and no user can remove it on their own without a bench vise, softjaw clamps for 15 mm diameter axles and something to actually remove the end cap. :) The solution is a new rear hub or wheel. In any case, the quality of that hub is so poor that it will fall apart within a few months of regular use anyway, so when users look for replacements I'm hoping they go the already compatible route (such as DT Swiss etc).

[@forzauk1]

🤣 thats what she said

[@goonigoogoo5868]

do not get this. it is 3D printed and it constantly messes up the bikes computer...having to turn on and off the bike to reset it...for 60 euro more you get the chip and its an very very easy instal. stakes 20 min. and no knowledge of elec. needed. simple instructions to two plugs in the plastic motor panel. the bike cost 6,000 euro. pay the extra 60 and get the right part. !.not cheap 3D printed stuff that breaks in 3 months..

[@planet3bike]

Very useful comment considering almost everything said is completely wrong. Thank you for helping potential users make an informed purchasing decision!

[@59trevski]

What is the chip called

[@johnhardy2239]

What is the chip called and where do we get it?

[@TroyCollier]

I've had one on my 2019 for a year and never had issues.

[@joejoejoe8591]

Sounds like a sales pitch. Put someone down and come buy my shit.

[@JuniorPullen]

Will this work on a Turbo Vado 3.0 2021?

[@planet3bike]

Yes, it will. For all intents and purposes it's the same as previous years Vado models. Simply visit test.planet3.bike/shop/ and select "Urban" under filters. :)

[@JuniorPullen]

@@planet3bike thanks so much. Also wanted to ask which hub should I choose for my bike?

[@balintkulacs2517]

Would it work with 2021 Specialized Turbo Vado SL 4.0?

[@planet3bike]

Yes, but there's a caveat regarding the rear hub end cap. If you visit planet3.bike there's a video link right next to the Vado SL/Creo SL listed that explains the problem. If you can take the original hub end cap off, then a Creo SL Comp PLANET3 fits and works on the Vado SL.

[@machinezen9785]

How does this affect battery life? I still don't understand why some use 2 sun gears?

[@planet3bike]

It affects battery life in the same way as any other method of derestriction does: if you now spend time under power OVER the speed limit (where there previously was no power consumption) - it'll obviously use more. How much more? Depends on too many factors to be easily quantifiable: your fitness, assistance mode used, gradient, speed, tires, bla bla. Basically, having no speed limit it's the only civilized way to live, if you want more battery life - ride sparingly or at lower speeds, just like you would in a car.. you can have a very high consumption or low/lower consumption, depends on the regime you're driving and how fast you want to get somewhere.

[@bastogne315]

25 miles in Turbo on the flat is my guess.

[@davegraf6683]

Does this work for the 2019 Specialized Kenevo Expert EMTB?

[@planet3bike]

Hi Dave, yes.. you simply go to planet3.bike, enter the webshop and use the filters there (Specialized, Kenevo Gen1) and then compare your rear hub braking side end cap profile with the photos in the gallery. It should be the DHT-148S option if you still have your stock wheelset on the bike.