Planetside 2: Please Don't Nerf Newton!

[@YewToobComment]

Newton is just a shiny rage distraction. Everybody remembers getting dunked by it up close but nobody remembers all the times they beat it at range. So the people get their rage on and nobody notices the CBX-75 is mopping the floor with them.

[@Sathonyia]

hurts to watch this later. we actually thought chimera would get an ability

[@chinoYochino]

the video didn't age well...

[@bruvaguren494]

@@chinoYochino I think the new dev team forgot about the chimera

[@k0v4n0v4]

buff other weapons > nerf new weapon that actually feels good and like i am not using a shotgun when i am useing a "rifle"

[@ANTOperator]

I'm halfway through Tanto. Soon I'll have it, the Newton, which is balanced and fair.

[@chamallow3588]

I saw a lot of people saying that Tanto is trash, but I gave it a go to unlock the NSX Fujin, and honestly on a Ambusher LA with Paratrooper + short barrel + SPA. It was really good. No need to buy a scope, only hip fire, and it manages pretty well ^^

[@chinoYochino]

it's definitely a fun gun for sure.. but man, I just wish it doesn't become a knock-off ns-11c second I jump off to fly

[@chamallow3588]

@@chinoYochino I can't give you an answer, I ce Nevers tried the ns 11C

[@bruvaguren494]

It's because the tanto has painfully slow ROF compared to its competing CQC guns, so unless your opponents have both 200+ ping and below 60 fps the odds arent in your favor

[@megazerg1022]

The result of your video is Newton nerf in not so distant future

[@larzanthony2275]

I, as a drifter jet addict, don’t even have it unlocked. I just want to enjoy it before it gets nerfed into the ground.

[@zippera]

After this video i created a nso character literally called DontNerfNewtonIDontHaveItYet on miller. My objective is to play without crosshair so without downsight and hud, newton might be the only gun allowing me to do that with an adequate result. can't wait to blast heads without xhair. so far :golded 5, auraxed nc11c(I still can't beleive i made so many chain-kill with that shit ... like "why"or "how" or ..... still "how") and half way througt fucking tanto (surprisingly pretty dominant in frontal 1V1 all situation combined I might start to doubt that i have a hitbox considering so many players giving me the time to kill them) .... keeping the cool (Am I allowed to use the word "cool" for nso weapons ??) carabines for last. I just hope the nerf won't happen or at least I'll be in time before the nerf I love your video, don't change anything, I'm enjoying every aspect.

[@chinoYochino]

on my aurax run, tanto wasn't as bad as i thought it would be and ns-11c was just a breeze and felt superior than cb200 at every single scenario. I'll check back to you when you finish cb-200.

[@zippera]

@@chinoYochino Giving you a bit of feedeack on the experience so far NC11C AURAXED, (globally smooth, impacted by my learning to use impulse grenade actively and OFC by the lack of adequate implant due to new character.) Tanto AURAXED, (Tanto went not so bad, bit boring in the end, lots of time wasted to find a proper fight/farm but at least, gear and implant were correct) CB200 AURAXED in 3 days time (without underbarrel SG :DDDDD, but i agree that gun is so bad, not acurate at long range and atrocious dps in CQC, you rely entirely to flank and find low skill targets, NC11C was way easier), 400 kills on CB100 so far. (I'm still not sur if i don't like CB200 more) As I'm past half the grind, I want to back up your only argument in favor of a not having Newton nerfed ... Other carabines available are lame/bad/boring and the grind is so annoying you deserve the fun (not nerfed) newton offers !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats on your 1000 subscribers. I hope it'll motivate you to continue and provide alwais more content. In 10 years of youtube, I only suscribed to 7 channels, you are one of them, i hope it means something ;-)

[@chinoYochino]

CB100 much be a breeze if you didn't mind cb200. Hopefully you can get the taste of Newton before the nerf hammer swings at Newton. I'm very proud to be one of 7 btw!

[@zippera]

@@chinoYochino I got it tonight, and I have to admit .... yeah it is kinda too easy, I agree with the nerf ^^ ... I just hope the nerf will not hurt it too much thought. On the other hand, it is perfect for playing without hud. I tested it a bit tonight and the result is promising considering it normally takes quite some time to the brain to get used to play without crosshair. I was already able to have some decent frags. I started to aurax on the 10th october, considering i have a family life, I'm pretty happy to have done it in 3 weeks top. I'll give a last comment here after the nerf about how it feels. ps : cb100 was the worst to aurax in this series, I can't explain why, i just hated it. fortunatly i had cbx75 to make me happy again after so much sorrow.

[@오잉-s3d2h]

I didnt know you were youtuber, good to see you

[@chinoYochino]

Hey! I don't know who you are from profile name lol

[@오잉-s3d2h]

@@chinoYochino Im TheYJ, may be we know each other ;)

[@chinoYochino]

@@오잉-s3d2h Oh yes, YJ the kingsnake beast

[@Bilbo__Baggins]

I mistook Newton for Dalton and was confused about the video at first.

[@PeterBarnes2]

First weapon I ever Auraxed was the Tanto. This was before arsenal, and I remember always feeling like I wasn't able to pull my own weight. Only ever played LA. Having auraxed most of the TR carbines since then, and switching over to the TRAC-Shot with forward grip (so no shotgun), all I can say is I wish SMGs were an actual alternative, and I hate shotguns. I still only ever play LA. (I guess I repair sundies sometimes.) Maybe I should switch back to Tanto. I've been having issues matching people at range, recently, engaging in more open fights.

[@phantomfire183]

Holy shit just found your channel in recommendations I played in your platoon a couple of times as "PhantomFright" Video was hilarious and very well made, made me laugh

[@namechanged3044]

found your vid on my recommended. ima be 100% with you I did not even know people still played this game let alone theirs another faction. so yah time to reinstall

[@pinorska6316]

Agreed. But Tanto is actually nice gun if you can nail heads with its hipfire in cqc. Otherwise it's pretty trash

[@Xio189]

Why would people even think that is the best one..... VS has a carbine that literally has a single DOT for the hipfire reticle while flying around..

[@chinoYochino]

Mostly because Newton doesn't have the downside of bullets splitting in multiple. Before the nerf though, it also had a built-in unstable ammo with 2.0 headshot multiplier which made headshots too consistent at absurd range. But now that it's gone, it should be close to on par with VE-C Horizon

[@kaiserdarkangel]

the problem is that only nso have access to this broken weapon , trac -shit should be a good weapon but us average or kinda useless , just give us better carbines to other factions and let the newton as it is , or nerf it whatever , but i rather get better carbines .

[@timmorin6657]

They should just allow weapons to be picked from the ground.

[@xVertigo101]

Want to experience pre nerf Newton? Come to ps4 / ps5 version of the game. We haven't had an update in 2 years 🤣

[@keksmember]

mm myes thank you for giving me another reason to play nso

[@pinorska6316]

Do you have the galilei? I'd love to see a video on it even though it's kinda just an NSO orion Edit: Nvm I just realised you have already made such a video

[@cman1406]

Damn i Need to Look at the subtitles, dont understand anything you say.

[@Zakensit]

4.31 why turet no hit you ?

[@chinoYochino]

It's cause of Avoidance implant. It's must have for playing enemy backline

[@vedrisca]

I think the major issue in Planetside's design philosophy is that everything tends to cater to the oldest playerbase that has more in common with CS:GO players than actual Battlefield players. We have plenty of SMGs and LMGs that should be ideal for close-quarters spray and pray gameplay style, but the recoil bloom on all of these are so high that there's no point to using them that way when controlled bursts are always objectively better (even in situations where they shouldn't be; like spraying at point blank). Similarly, long ranged weapons still suffer from slow bullet travel and low lethality; the large majority of anti-material rifles outclass sniper rifles (that in theory should be specialized in anti-infantry), so people more likely get head-eyes from an Engineer than an Infiltrator at both short and mid distance battles. And when you can lay down double, if not triple the volume of fire with an assault rifle and get a lower TTK in mid-ranged fights, fighting as a sniper Infiltrator becomes moot. A friend of mine -- who routinely ranked Plat in Valorant -- played exactly like he did in Valorant and ended up with about a KD of 3:1 in an hour vs my 1:1 that I clawed up to over two years of cumulative play. (In completely different games like CoD and Insurgency Sandstorm, I get a 2:1 KD because of lower TTK and tighter shooting mechanics, which goes well with how aggressively I play). I think it speaks more about how Planetside 2 tries to lift shooting mechanics from other games to try and skim players instead of actively trying to develop their own product, and the slow player growth reflects that (after all, why play a Battlefield clone with no building destruction and less interesting guns/gadgets?). In all likeliness, the stagnant playerbase and devs are going to take your preference for a different, unusual playstyle and sweep it aside to cater to mass appeal.

[@charactername263]

maybe your friend is just better than you at FPS games because he played one where skill matters and you played Planetside 2 lol The "unusual playstyle" of having a carbine equivalent to the on release Canis is just retarded.

[@Mihancho73]

I like how everyone agrees that the gun is broken, but at the same time tries to protect it from the nerf. The thing is, if you agree that the gun is broken, you agree that it is unbalanced. And what should happen to any unbalanced gun? It must become a balanced one. It does not depend on a playstyle, it does not depend on who and how did it get, how hard it was to somebody, fun it is or not. It is not about getting better to counter it. No. But if you defend it in such way, you are mixing two independent things. Your will why it shouldn't be nerfed and a delusional argument. I repeat, if you're trying to protect it from the nerf, you are kinda agree that it should take something to its performance. The playerbase of ps2 is in a constant search of a crutch that will help em to kill more ppl with ease. I'm completely fine with that. All the arguments that I saw below are proving this. But what is not correct - your arguments don't correlate with the gun balance at all. The gun balance in ps2 is constant for 10 years already. And if something appears in the game that breaks the well established rules - it is not a good thing. Ask yourself what happens with game if it goes away from its own standards. Like really. Take 2 mins. Or just refresh your memory about when everyone had the day 1 crossbow. It was fun for sure, no doubts, but only for a small group of people. Other majority just suffered because of how absurdly easy it was to kill with it and the constant explosive spam. Do you remember what happened after the Arsenal update? Everyone run barons with slugs. Again, there were nothing good. Situation with newton is the same. Why GODSAW doesn't have the perfect accuracy? Why Trac-Shot doesn't have it? Why directive shotguns aren't way superior than its normal analog? Because of balance I believe. They are a bit better sidegrades of their analogs. But not completely and straightforward different better guns. I feel like I'm at least decent at the game, since I have 6kd on infantry (not bolts or shotguns, but on every single class). I got every directive gun. If a gun has perfect accuracy, it should have significant downgrades like low dps Tanto or some bullet spread like Horizon. Newton doesn't have any but slightly lower mag (26 I believe). 4 bullets - is not enough to approve its hipfire stats. It does break the gun balance rules. You can't argue with that. In 1v1 everything won't matter except own skill and gun stats. And the gun stats aren't balanced the same. Newton doesn't add anything new to the game. The playstyle already existed with tanto and horizon. Newton is just a straight broken powercreep gun. Consider these things above. And ask yourself a question. When it is fun for you and for 100 more people, what about others? IMO this question can be asked about in-game cheats as well. Everyone has an access to both things, both to newton and cheats. Everything is open and ready to use. So what is the difference in between? This is a rhetorical question, I don't need an answer. It was asked to make you think about the situation. And the very last thing. If you are still trying to protect it making proofs why it should be as it is. I can only suggest to try to think why it should be nerfed. Just 2-3 points.

[@tka4nik]

The thing is, it didn't need a buff in the arsenal update (as in, laser + spa + short barrel + ads), and we are just being worried (it actually is a trend, considering their previous balancing attempts) that rpg will nerf it in the way that would kill one of the most unique and fun weapon design in the game

[@Mihancho73]

@@tka4nik it is not unique. It just power creeped other two weapons in the same weapon design category. But I agree with the arsenal update point. So they will kill the wep, because of their inability to balance things that is proved by time.

[@mysticator]

Considering how the Devs always bend over backwards for bad players who are vocal, I assume this weapon will get nerfed. It's similar to the Betelgeuse in terms of the fact that "it's not good, they're good" but these terrible players - who are usually tankers who try infantry and fail miserably - can never accept that someone is better than them. I'm a 5 KDR TriHard HA main who blasts stimulants to make sure I am the best planetman, and being killed by Newton LAs with Drifters is actually enjoyable. This is because in a 'fair' fight, they usually have absolutely no chance whatsoever against me, but when they use the strength of the light assault (abusing height, mobility and ambushing) the tables are turned and I have to actually think about how I can retaliate against them. It helps to highlight the strength of the light assault, and creates a viable playstyle for people who have reached the skill ceiling of the class because IMO drifters aren't that strong in comparison to other LA builds. I don't think realise that's the point of the light assault, it's not meant to be a fair fight. I don't think the devs really care about that opinion though, they'll just tell you to go build bases on Oshur - or try out the COOL NEW NSO TANK CANNONS!!!

[@Temperius]

As a person who joined the planetside early this year its been tough getting into the game. You're play style is why I abuse CQC bolters. But I agree that a element of all games is "Get good", planetside most so. Those who just log off and start complaining ruin parts of the game for players who actually took the time to get good. CQC bolters should be kinda nerfed though...

[@mauriciofreitas3384]

A problem seen nowadays is that people find something hard, they complain and quit. Rarely there is someone who tries to learn and get better at the game. Planetside 2 being somewhat competitive in terms of PvP, people really need to learn the game to get better at it, not complain until the game becomes easier just for them

[@charactername263]

This has to be satire, the Newton is hysterically broken.

[@mysticator]

​@@charactername263 It's not satire at all. Light Assaults never pose any threat if you're a HA main with good game sense, or an infiltrator who is good at dodging and weaving. I don't see how the Newton is broken at all. It forces you to use all of the niches of the Light Assault class to be viable. I have never lost a fair duel to a Newton player, I have only died to the Newton when I am not given an opportunity to retaliate - which the LA should rightfully be rewarded for. Did you experience the pre-nerf Canis? Do you realise how strong the NC arsenal is compared to the other factions? Do you know how overpowered Grenade Bandolier is? There are many things in Planetside that are 'overpowered' but I would not consider the Newton anywhere near as strong as the aforementioned instances. But, if it is overpowered as you say, I'd rather it be this directive reward than something you just get out of the box. You realise everybody who has the Newton has over 5000 kills as a LA, with a variety of weapons which all force them to utilise the different aspects of LA. They are going to make sure that you are at a disadvantage in every single scenario. I'm afraid to say, you're just bad.

[@charactername263]

@@mysticator It takes a special lack of understanding of the game to in any way think the Newton is defendable. It takes a particularly severe lack of ivi skills paired with a profound demonstration of the Dunning-Kruger effect to then go and make up nonsense like "I have never lost a fair duel to a Newton player" or that the Newton "forces you to use all of the niches of the Light Assault class" just to be "viable". I did experience the pre-nerf Canis. I know the NC is overtuned at the moment. You lost me at grenade bandolier though, actual mental illness moment. Most laughable is that you somehow have deluded yourself into thinking any of those things are worse than the Newton. The Newton is unironically stronger than the Canis ever was, and the only reason it hasn't consumed the entire playbase is because it takes a while to grind. It is a release Canis with less damage drop off and no falling COF penalty. I don't care how many kills the average Newton abusing cockroach has, and 5000 is really nothing even remotely impressive in a 10 year old game. Ultimately, I don't give a shit what you have to say because you're just another decimal KD decimal KPM shitter with profound mental retardation among the countless masses of profoundly retarded planetside "players".

[@xVertigo101]

Broken on console. You can easily average 11 kdr

[@come2brasil633]

NSO players taking nerfs for the funny KZbin content. BTW, on Outfit Wars, NCCR VS Bwae on Emerald, VS stomped NC. The Betelgeuse alone got over 400 kills, which was close to the total amount of kills NC got as a whole.

[@theneef174]

But NCCR is nowhere near as crazy as BWAE.

[@charactername263]

almost like it's a match between a skillfit and a shitfit

[@sullivan108]

The NSO carbines are pretty garbage outside of the starter

[@ipankzagara2046]

Long time not see u chinoyochino :_)

[@chinoYochino]

yee long time playing other games

[@Niekel10]

Newton looks like a worse tracshot. I dont get it

[@beh4037]

You were taken seriously after all! Incoming nerf on the Newton! :D

[@pordilos]

I have auraxed it three times

[@admiralre457]

Why are PC players so harsh to their bots

[@chrisbergin7209]

I mean this man has a few valid points here wrel. let our baby be.

[@luciavarela8460]

Ese titan rompe el juego merece un MEGA NERFEO NOB

[@theneef174]

Horizon is better anyways, so like. Who cares. Leave the newton be.

[@Daeon108]

as annoying as the newton is to play against, it's balanced because all factions have it. if you are tired of dying to it go get one a rub the salt in someone else's wound