Losing Weight. Rules and Expectations by Dr. Doug Lisle

[@jgrysiak6566]

Love the term "Wet Starch", I finally get it, now @ weight loss goal!

[@plantemus]

@@jgrysiak6566 great! I’m glad you get it now.

[@Goodbyeeveryonehere]

I am one of the 1 in 10,000 people who eats wet starches, veg and salad (can't eat fruit I'm fructose intolerant). I didn't get an equilibrium at all, I went directly from a UK size 22 (US size 18) to a UK size 8 in around 15 months. No cravings, lots of energy and motivation and got rid of my depression.

[@plantemus]

Congratulations!

[@bitfinesse]

You’re a gangster 👊🏼

[@joywheeler2566]

Gustavo!! So glad you asked him to define "wet starch" !!!!

[@eleanorsmith2705]

Dr Lisle always explains in a way I can understand. So I've been eating WFPB oil free for a month now. I'm able to make this drastic change from ultra processed by his lectures. I do it higher calorie density to help with the transition. A 2 lbs weight loss a week is acceptable to me. As I continue to have success, I know know what to put down next; peanut butter, popcorn, maple syrup and nuts. Thanks for having Dr Lisle, Gustavo ❤

[@gosiakonstanty3456]

I love Dr Lisle, his an exceptional human being. Great interview Gustavo, really helpful

[@claresmith9261]

Thanks so much for this... really interesting so I’m going to increase my wet carbs, I love that term as I’ve never heard it

[@dorothy343]

This was a great interview. I can see why I have been struggling with eating WFPB.

[@lilicunha6824]

Just amazing video!

[@MegaControlyourself]

Good information!

[@brendadimarco2305]

Thank you Gustavo and Dr. lisle!

[@marshaberland2248]

he is always right on target

[@ivan11h]

Thank you

[@plantemus]

You're welcome

[@mimim9265]

Wet starch is cooked oatmeal, cooked potatoes etc.

[@carolynlapota5495]

Thank you Dr Lisle. He always makes so much sense. I started eating wfpb 4 years ago and found chef aj at the beginning, so have geen eating like her. No nuts, seeds, tofu, no flour products including spaghetti. I eat no breakfast, huge salad for lunch and about 8 oz potatoes. For dinner cooked veggies, a small amount of raw veggies, and about 8 oz potatoes. I am ALWAYS craving candy-my downfall. My husband keeps candy in the house and I look for it and eat. I also buy some for me when I go grocery shopping, hen feel horrible! Ihave about 5-10 pounds left I want to get rid of. I am going to eat more wet starch and occasionally tofu, avocado! Thanks to both of you. ❤ it s scary to add the higher density but if I can get over my candy addiction, I should lose weight.

[@pixelated.peachyangel]

What matters is keeping the sense of direction. Losing weight is a backward survival problem so we should be kind to ourselves.

[@CastledarkDweller27]

AJ says to get rid of sweet cravings you need to eat LOADS of GREENS.

[@bitfinesse]

May I ask what is your selected candy of choice? What’s a candy addict go for? Hit me with it 😇

[@lidiaadobato7822]

Thanks for your clear explanations on so many vital topics. Could you talk sometime about how not to lose weight? It's my natural tendency and I cannot skip a meal because I start losing weight. I have no health or energy issues. Sometimes I feel I'm the only person in the world who doesn't want to be thinner. Thanks for any suggestion.

[@plantemus]

@@lidiaadobato7822 add nut butters, nuts and seeds, avocados, tofu and even some pasta and bread.

[@DougLerner]

I watched the video and had some thoughts along the way. Around 7:00 he says if you don't have 3 lb/day of wet starches, for example if you have 2 lb/day instead that he knows the extra pound isn't going to be salads or fruit, it's going to be something really high in calorie density like vegan pizza. My question is why does he think that? I can easily see filling in my extra foods with salads and fruit. Why does he think that's an anomaly? Around 11:00 when he talks about the McDougall plan and the slightly more restrictive Ultimate Weight Loss plan he is talking sensibly about the effect of calories eaten on weight loss. So why in so many other places does he say that counting calories is nonsense? Calories are actually the basis of his argument. Sure he's talking about calories per pound, but calories are calories. At around 13:00 minutes he does talk sensibly about reasonable expectations regarding rate of weight loss. Usually it's not fast. That was my experience in losing 140 lb as well. But you find a sustainable way and stick with it. Later on he also talks reasonably about what I just mentioned - sustainability and not eating too low in calorie density in a way that will make you ravenously hungry at some point. And that's why he says wet starches should be the center (wet because dried out starches zoom up in calorie density). At about 25:00 I'm glad he clarifies that the red line is an average, not the max of every food you eat. He goes into the importance of sometimes mixing in things of higher calorie density (e.g. avocado) so long as the average of a meal stays lower in calorie density. Such practice can avoid long term frustration. And makes perfect sense. He does overlook that there are certain wet starches that are much higher in calorie density than you might expect. My favorite example is Japanese sweet potatoes (yaki-imo). They simply have a much higher calorie density than ordinary potatoes. And I personally feel they are not any more filling. So they do seem to cause me to gain weight every time I try including them regularly in my diet. After all that I still say, "calories count, whether you count them or not." I think it's possible for many people to overeat even if you keep to the left of the calorie density "red line" on average. Or perhaps I should say it's exceedingly hard to figure out if you are eating to the left of the red line on average without actually counting the calories. But besides that he makes many reasonable points, overall.

[@manuelahrasky8472]

Great comments, Doug. I’m with you on the ‘calories do count’ issue. The whole basis of the *calorie* density chart is, well, calories. We are eating to the left because we want, ultimately, fewer calories. The calorie density chart gives us fewer calories while giving maximum nutrition.

[@karenstanton5405]

Great interview. I get it . Eat more wet starch . I exercise daily . I eat clean but l was having small bit of maple syrup or honey and peanut butter and a bit of bread now and then . I have cut bread out . I now make oat pancakes and wraps instead of bread. So just need to watch those dry foods.

[@doctork1708]

Chef AJ seems to eat an unnaturally lean diet. She says she doesn’t even eat legumes.

[@doctork1708]

“Tofu, if anyone likes it for anything.”🤣😂😅🤣😂😅 “is an interesting material…” too funny! Tofu is soooo gross 😝😝🤮🤮🤮even worse than oatmeal (for me). I’m actually happy that I’m allergic to soy, saves me from tofu.😊😊😊

[@diannebertold3602]

Chef AJ is allergic to legumes.

[@pixelated.peachyangel]

@@diannebertold3602 if I remember, she's allergic to soy but she has gut problems of she eats legumes

[@Pycnanthemum71]

What’s wet starch?

[@Deb_BG]

Dr. Lisle defines it at approximitely 14:20

[@osoniye4209]

Potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, oatmeal, beans, etc.

[@rachellewilson2365]

Enjoyed this podcast and learned a lot. I am unclear if the Ultimate Weight Loss diet is different then eating starches, veg and fruit. I noticed that he said eating left of the red line would average about 300-400 calories per pound and switching from McDougall to UWL would be a subtle change from approximately 700 to 600 calories per pound. Thanks in advance for any clarification someone may provide.

[@ChrisShearer0609]

The Ultimate Weight Loss plan is a stricter version of the standard McDougall plan, (only eating starches, fruit, and veg). For Ultimate Weight Loss, you eliminate dry starches and any high-fat plant foods. And you increase the non-starchy vegetables to be up to half your plate by visual volume, (the other half being wet starches). Also having up to a couple servings of fruit per day, also. This will likely reduce the calorie density of your diet.

[@mimim9265]

👍😉

[@lindawaldrum7361]

I will be eating wet starch and salad and fruit and adding a one block walk down the mountain I live on and back up and omitting processed junk foods. I like statistics. Goal is 30-50# before it snows. (or in spite of snow). WFPB SOS free since 2013. 5'2" 81 Treadmill is an option or/and Health Rider. New focus .Grains, beans, potatoes, berries. As Betty W said, 7 hours beauty sleep per night unless you're ugly, then more.

[@deva190]

lol@ "unless you're ugly....."

[@RonGoote]

Beyond eating whole foods this horrible advice. This is a recipe for sarcopena. Instead of being fat and diabetic you'll be skinny and diabetic.

[@claresmith9261]

That’s rubbish if you really check the data ..

[@CastledarkDweller27]

Dr Lisle only gives brilliant advice.

[@RonGoote]

@@CastledarkDweller27 he's clearly frail himself. 3 lbs of wet starch with no protein is going to lead to sarcopenia and many other health problems.

[@manuelahrasky8472]

A good high starch diet gives adequate protein. 1000 pounds of wet starch is 453.59 kg of wet starch, which gives 1.24 kg daily on average. Consider quinoa: this has 4.4 gm of protein in 100 gm, which gives 54.56 gm protein daily from the 1.24 gm wet starch. Everything else, non-starchy vegetable, fruit, legumes, nuts (if eaten), will also add to the daily protein intake.

[@annemccarron2281]

​@@RonGooteALL vegetables have protein. Dr. Peter Rogers says the hype about protein is overrated. I have been in the medical profession over 40 years. I've always been told that high levels of protein (particularly animal protein) can cause kidney damage.