New footage of the pre-production prototypes in action coming soon... (Hopefully this week!)
@BeneficenceTV9 ай бұрын
Thanks Jordan! 🙏
@philipofaolain98719 ай бұрын
Thank you Jordan, much appreciated update.
@jessewhite16799 ай бұрын
F@CK YEAH! Keep it up bro!
@lennycat27529 ай бұрын
Right on Jordan, thanks for layman's breakdown of this fantastic technology. I really hope it works as stated. I'm 90% believer, when I get to huff exhaust from a retrofitted ICE, I'll be 100%. Thanks again and tell everyone involved, to keep at it and change the world.
@jinavl9 ай бұрын
thank you for taking the time to break it down for us common folk
@ozzzyd922Ай бұрын
I came here trying to learn about plasmoids, 12/17/24. While the weird drone/u.a.p sightings are happening, primarily in N.J. Absolutely amazing video, thank you for the top notch education.
@all_your_baser_belong_to_usАй бұрын
Check out Ashton Forbes too!
@ozzzyd922Ай бұрын
@all_your_baser_belong_to_us will do thanks
@toucheturtle38409 ай бұрын
Watching Bob get emotional was quite something & a joy to see. So many scientists fail to convey their humanity. This is an outstanding rediscovery for a species suffering with amnesia.
@DrWhom9 ай бұрын
So many scientists... how many do you personally know?
@MusclesAreMagic8 ай бұрын
@@DrWhom Look at you being so literal, whom asked you
@BotchedGod9 ай бұрын
Love that Jordan is wrapping this all up for us I just couldn't keep up separately anymore very easily.
@KanineMinor948 ай бұрын
This is only my second day finding out about this important knowledge, initially through watching Randal Carlson, and it is life-changing. Beautifully so, you are not changing the world but simply revealing (or re-revealing) it to us all, so thank you.
@mcguycurtdome25696 ай бұрын
This is the most exciting thing I've experienced in the last ten years, it's amazing to be here this early even though I'm still kind of late, keep it up man, you're doing the universes work 🙏
@roj64889 ай бұрын
Been following since day 1.. and it’s going so well.. amazing that Randall keeps mentioning and referencing you! Keep up the great work
@skyw42789 ай бұрын
Randall moving away from his meteor shower theory?
@dondank43879 ай бұрын
Wow truly incredible rediscovery. Thank you for doing this for all of us, what a time to be alive!
@algaz2001uk9 ай бұрын
Hey Jordan ive listened to dozens of hours of MFMP. Im educated just enough to understand how amazing this is but a lot goes over my head!!! I really appreciate your explanations to the uneducated among us!!!! Keep the good work up your really appreciated!!!!!! 1:03:32
@fasted84689 ай бұрын
This is excellent for people like us, but someone needs to start making shorts explaining it all. I'm not sharing a 2 hour video to a person who doesn't know anything about it. I'll help you make them :D I'm not criticizing you! I am so so happy you are doing this!!!
@maawolff88889 ай бұрын
Yes please also make shorts explaining it to newcomers! Not to ask more of you-thank you already for EVERYTHING you’re doing!-I just can’t seem to successfully share a 2hr video with folks who are skeptic! 🩷🩷
@julzabro4 ай бұрын
I am! And I did share. There r smarter people than myself that can grasp this. Minds will be blown for sure but it has to circulate.
@greghoffstadt6679 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting this together! I've been lightly following this for a few months. Letting my legs dangle in the rabbit hole. Withe all the sources that you have listed. I think it's time to jump in. I'm on board with everything. It does make sense. My eyes were opened by Randell. Knowledge is key and power.
@jcgrundl9 ай бұрын
Fascinating stuff! I am working hard towards joining all the brainiacs at the cosmic summit this year. If true, this discovery will be the absolute pathway to harmony on earth, but be assured, the resistance will be fearsome.
@willstorm83316 ай бұрын
I think its possible to speak about this transformational tech and social adaptation as a new age of greater freedom and avoid a lot of the backlash. I hope that good empathic people will come forward to demystify the new and help to remind folks this may be a better life for all. Fear and sensational hyper are a means of control and it doesn't have to be that way.
@Masaq_TM9 ай бұрын
Bob is such a nice guy. I’d really love to have a beer with both Bob and you Jordan. Keep pushing, the word is getting out there, good luck with the Cosmic Summit. Kindest regards from the UK.
@SillyRobbit3 ай бұрын
“Welcome to the return of alchemy to the modern world…” Wow. This is incredible. Plasmoids are so remarkable and we need to understand better
@ZalexMusic9 ай бұрын
INCREDIBLE. Thank you Jordan, Bob, Randall and the incredible group of people whose work has influenced this project and the spread of the knowledge contained within. I feel like before this life I chose this particular time to incarnate in order to witness the imminent transformation of humanity.
@mike15258 ай бұрын
I hope this research reaches a point of no return, where there is no possibility of suppression. Congratulations to Bob and all involved. Like others have mentioned, Randal Carlson also brought me here.
@SirRollAnO9 ай бұрын
I wish i had heard Randall mention you earlier. Loving the videos, very interesting stuff
@TmanSta9 ай бұрын
This is so exciting to see unfold I feel like I have been waiting for this for a good portion of my adult life. Jordan, thank you so much for providing this caliber of insight on this mind-blowing rediscovery.
@ConsciousnessWatch9 ай бұрын
Extraordinary video! Thanks for the new research details and the encapsulation of Bob and Jahanna's recent broadcasts.
@brutisthunderhand14909 ай бұрын
I do appreciate your analysis of this amazing work. I try to listen to the presentations, but they are soooo long and a bit over my head. Thank you for this work!!!!
@surftown_9 ай бұрын
Congratulations Jordan! Its all coming together! I think collectively we need to start talking about you as (other than Malcom of course) your the Australian Godfather of plasmoids!
@quasimojo73992 күн бұрын
Amazing progress, congratulations one and all involved.
@BrianSkitt-y4k8 ай бұрын
✌️👍 thank you, and please keep sharing all that you can and let's change everything for everyone...👍✌️
@NibiruMan16 ай бұрын
MY GOD!!! This is so BIG!!!! Thanks for showing us...keep up the good work!!!
@robradcliff24493 ай бұрын
I say again what a wealth, not only of knowledge, but also of goodwill toward all of humanity. These brave men each and every one should be regarded with the highest of praise and uplifted in such a way that president's, kings, heads of state, dictators, and any means of leadership of the world I'm leaving out should at best be recognized in the dimmed shadows of all of these men and I mean ALL of them from the inventors themselves to the brave young gentleman who is so thoughtfully getting this info out to us. I've said before, and again I say, bravo men, bravo. You men are what everyone should strive to be at your core.
@troygriggs27969 ай бұрын
WOW 🤯👍 thank you for doing what your doing shedding the light on this revolutionary work being done by these amazing men stay vigilant and keep it up
@sactown19 ай бұрын
Thank you for condensing this material and sharing in a easily digestable manner. May the DIVINE Continue to bless all of your works. AUM AMEN WAHEGURU
@thriveimagedesign9 ай бұрын
Thank you for compiling this summary, mind blowing.
@daekaraiagaiasan23554 ай бұрын
A very interesting synchronicity pathway took me to discover your platform and the fabulous work you are taking care of putting together for everyone! I am grateful beyond words and laughing out-loud too. Hard to contain the excitement for the earth shattering news! 💚
@Mote.9 ай бұрын
Wow long video. This channel is so interesting and cool✌🏻🙂
@dronden29 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for your thorough analysis of recent breakthroughs and its presentations thereof of the MFMP research Jordan! I'm fairly new to this body of work and I find it rather daunting to get a clear view of the broader context. Your contributions offer much clarity! I've taken some steps to build my own thunderstorm generator but am stuck at the bubbler and the pre-ionizer as the generator itself is more challenging and assumed to be expensive, as I'm not a welder. I'm thrilled to learn more on the 'chubby' design as I think it is dubbed. Keep up the great work!
@Loveprevails9 ай бұрын
Woohoo thanks for putting this together 🙏💫 great work!
@loveistheonlything36269 ай бұрын
So much love, so much hope. Thank you and everyone involved.❤
@nickjago53989 ай бұрын
Wonderful work... I'm so pleased for you and thank you for sharing.
@Akio2349 ай бұрын
As above so below! lets gooooo
@mrparrehesian17429 ай бұрын
Happy see the solid recognition of the transmutation in the Plasma field of matter. It's already been proven in University labs and Industrial processes but its great to hear Bob Greenyer shout it out loud.
@ClaimTheDensity8 күн бұрын
Build the instrument, play the music and let the plasma do the building. That's ancient architecture that can't be carved. Science is art. Clearly visible in the micro and macro, waiting to be discovered. Thank you so much for your incredible work to show us this!
@michaelhurley333311 күн бұрын
Im just an ole mechanic thats been following you and i can see the implications this will have on the world,it is the great power!!!!, congratulations are in order!!!!!
@JarrodZerr9 ай бұрын
Hi. Found this via The Shawn Ryan Show and his interview with Randall Carlson. I would love to work on this machine. I find it so amazing
@Skvffed9 ай бұрын
Same.
@darcyparish47309 ай бұрын
This is fascinating. Thanks so much for putting it all together
@jankragelj9 ай бұрын
I like that you took my advice and decided to clean up your look. That was a very wise decision on your part. Wish you the best of luck.
@Fractaltoroidalmoment9 ай бұрын
Great work dude. Greatest spectacle on Earth watching Bob's live streams! Built myself the ULTRA device to experiment with. Just wrapping my head around the vortex mathematics but your videos are a massive help in understanding this 🙏🏻
@L.U.AURIEL9 ай бұрын
Magnificent! Wow, blown away, and yes I can definitely much potential on this research. The entire occult symbolism describing the entire process corresponds precisely. The Caduseus uses Fibonacci ratios and Planke lengths in its decrease, as mirrored in Dan Winter's discoveries. This has given me even more ideas for toroidal energy systems when combined with Vogel crystals (as honed specifically to the measurements from Dan Willis for healing crystal technology). Combining the specifically cut Vogel Quartz within the centre of a toroidal form (the central axis lining up with the "eye" point of the crystal, and the toroidal power system wired in a 3d Ankh shape, to provide power.) Within the toroid intersecting transversely would be 6 toroidal magnets - 3 + to - , spaced between the 3 - to +, in a "Star of David" arrangement (when viewed from the top). The magnets generating magnetic fields, which create current in the toroidal wired form, continuously activating the eye of the crystal, which would resonate at a particular frequency (at least that's the theory). A switch could be inserted to break/switch off the flow. Effectively the ankh head would serve as the handle for the device, and the crystal would "emanate" like a focused laser from the other terminated point end, due to its angular cut angle. The frequency would depend on the length, volume, mass and cut of the quartz crystal. This could be only 1 possible application. Loved this presentation, thankyou so much. 💜
@Jtren1.6189 ай бұрын
Amazing thankyou! I feel like i finally understand everything I've been looking into for the past decade! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@jonkisor92119 ай бұрын
thank you once again for providing us with more info on the topic
@annewitkowski75869 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ro22ss9 ай бұрын
Jordan, I'm here at the recommendation from Randall Carlson to watch your videos to learn more about this topic. With the work that has been done with Mazda thus far, can we expect to hear an announcement for future automotive applications?
@toofast4use9 ай бұрын
Truly great work my friend, I wish you all the best for the future. X
@elsupremo91884 ай бұрын
This is the first video from your channel I saw (I was looking at information on Ormus as a supplement) I know you mentioned this would be explained in layman's terms and for me as much as I tried to digest the science involved; the information was overwhelming, scary and hopeful at the same time. As a simple man I truly appreciate the work of Scientists like yourselves and how you are looking at helping the world to fix and live on for future generations. I think great Scientific people like yourselves are our only hope. Thank you and all the best in the future exploration.
@EvenWhyProductions9 ай бұрын
Thank you for everything you do
@pauloneill98809 ай бұрын
Good old Bob. He a real star of this planet saving endeavour. A big thank you to all the men in sheds , saving the world and future generations. Take a bow guys, you all deserve it.
@julzabro4 ай бұрын
Amazing and something we ALL need to share and talk about. SO impressed by the humanitarian way this is being given to everyone.
@nicnoknoo9 ай бұрын
Great Summary Jordan.. if you can call a 2hour video a summary 😊
@dwightvoeks99709 ай бұрын
Imagine converting all of our waste into useful compound
@pm11369 ай бұрын
So fascinating ! I just don't understand why this phenomenal technological and paradigmatic leap-forward, isn't more mentioned in media or in mainstream fields of science! I can't find for example, articles from newspapers in my language (french)...
@ZalexMusic9 ай бұрын
because the media is not trying to bring news to the masses, they are an arm of control. it's the same reason this knowledge was suppressed in the first place. moreover, most western academics and scientists will probably really really struggle to get over the "ether is real" and "alchemy is real" mental roadblocks.
@pm11369 ай бұрын
@joeborg3322 Thanks !
@pm11369 ай бұрын
@joeborg3322 Great ! Thanks you again !
@Leynad7788 ай бұрын
Watch the video from last week of The Why Files. To sum it up: It was usually deadly to invent any 'free energy' device.
@pm11368 ай бұрын
@@Leynad778 Yeah I watched it recently, it's because of censorship
@craigmillerpiano34989 ай бұрын
Amazing stuff. Really appreciate this channel.
@Praparadori9 ай бұрын
Thanks
@brandonb50759 ай бұрын
Awesome breakdown Jordan! Thanks.🤙🏼✌🏼😊
@davesutton96249 ай бұрын
Bob et al. Look at the Grand canals on Mars from space if you want to see your microscopic views on a planetary scale. The thunderbolts project and Thornhill's electric universe theory seems to complement your research quite well.
@raycar11659 ай бұрын
🌎🌏🌍☯️⚡️
@pareidoliarocks9 ай бұрын
I have a fantastic candidate for a demonstration vehicle. It hasn't been on the road in 15 years but this may be the technology I've been waiting for! This is so exciting, but it seems like people just find it unbelievable.
@xsfear23629 ай бұрын
We need to send this to every scientist and science based platform we can ! Spread the word far and wide.
@paradigmshift99 ай бұрын
Godspeed! It’s time
@Questioneverythingg7309 ай бұрын
They are all bought and frankly frightened lose their grants. It would take an act of god to penetrate the systems put into place to bury this. There are too many corruptible humans getting in the way of progress. I know this is negative but it’s been happening for hundreds of years. The families than run this marble keep the good stuff for themselves
@Loveprevails9 ай бұрын
@@Questioneverythingg730precisely, no one is preventing them from reaching out and getting a sample to test independently, and they had the opportunity countless times before, if they don’t it’s their loss not ours
@DrWhom9 ай бұрын
spread the lies?
@Questioneverythingg7309 ай бұрын
@@DrWhom lies?
@jamesbagley-nx4di9 ай бұрын
You should definitely hire a dryer for the shirts. Great video and thought provoking.
@pickles77837 ай бұрын
It's probably linen. Virtually impossible to straighten 😉
@Anton_sais9 ай бұрын
Hi Bob. Thanks for sharing this great work and also to all of you who are involved with it. Just a question: Is there perhaps any way of determining the direction of vortex spin relative to say, the discharge or excretion side of the palsmoids/tauroids? And if so, are they all alike or are some spinning in one direction and others in another?
@ballgms3089 ай бұрын
Hell yes Jordan got a shoutout on Rogan! Congrats man all that hard work is paying off. Can’t wait for this to be mainstream
@Loveprevails9 ай бұрын
Oh really?? Which episode? I’ve seen the one from Ryan Shawn from Randall?
@ballgms3089 ай бұрын
Randall Carlson on Joe Rogan most recently he gave Jordan a huge shoutout and tons of well deserved props
@AG-Radium9 ай бұрын
This is such a great walk through and detailed explination of the system. Thank you for your dedication to this amazing system Jordan.
@RandyFricke22 күн бұрын
Great presentation. Well done!
@gabegabes641915 күн бұрын
I'm so fascinated by this! Cant wait for this to start being adopted by major companies ad blow up!
@juntunenjukka8 ай бұрын
Has been so good to find these videos! About six months ago, I got Moray B. King´s book Water the Key to New Energy - and its main point is exactly the thing about these plasmoids and how the vortex flows in them, align with the fluctuations of the ZPE and simply by that, get empowered with quite great amounts of extra power, with transmutations happening in them and all in all, how simple it all actually is. The book talks about cavitating electrolyzers and ZPE and shows, that it is not hydrogen in HHO-cells and i.e. in Stanley Meyer´s water injector thing, that made the motor run - but nano sized water bubbles turning to ball lightning. This thing has opened in these past months so greatly the understanding that I already had from years of research and teaching on the subject and I´m very excited. It seems, you have had somewhat similar cause of excitement, about these plasmoids and in what they´re involved. And it tells me, that collectively, we´re learning something very fast. Thank you for doing your great work there, has been good to find your channel. All the best to every moment of every day to everyone !
@carnivore_scalper9 ай бұрын
1:40:26 My wife is Ivorian. While watching this video at the point indicated, she saw the image of the Vajra and blurted out: “I have seen that thing lying on the jungle floor in the ‘brousse’ where I grew up”. She grew up in a little village in north-east Ivory Coast. My reaction? WTF??? Did you take it? - No, I just left it lying there. This is the middle-of-nowhere Africa. It couldn’t be more remote from India if you wanted to! Again, WTF!!!
@yurisuika9 ай бұрын
We really are on for a wild ride.
@terryeaster19 ай бұрын
I greatly appreciate you breaking this down where a semi-layman can understan. Thanks man
@elusive3239 ай бұрын
My mind just left the planet,Im in outter space.thank you man.
@Thomas-pq2qz4 ай бұрын
Man oh man oh man,this is so obviously old knowledge given to humankind by a higher and more advanced society in order to enlighten us along the path to knowledge of eternity.Thank heaven for you guys.
@psiloatlantis12468 ай бұрын
extraordinarily compelling, great work!
@theamericanjoeshow9 ай бұрын
It would be awesome to see a moving 3D animation of what the plasmoids are doing and creating the ☯️
@vornamenachnahme589 ай бұрын
BG: "Klaus, some guys have re-discovered cold fusion, again." KS: "You know vatt vee do in ziss case - vee finance evryvonn who makes a machine zat transmutates carbon into oxygen, and stop all ze ozer ones az vee usually do. Zat way, vee go faster toward net zero." BG: "I'll tell Elon."
@DrWhom9 ай бұрын
what are you on about? stick to one conspiracy at a time
@dwightvoeks99709 ай бұрын
Bingo!
@philippersson11219 ай бұрын
When I hear that the bolt lightning is conscious, my thoughts went to what Bashar has mentioned about his ship being conscious …
@robbiess96359 ай бұрын
Not to be extremely conspiratorial or anything but, wasn't khufu's temple built right on top of a water spring? And there were several chambers like the kings and queens chamber that were connected via oddly ramped passage ways that split off above each other. they tried to suggest it was a hydrogen generator but a plasmoid generator seems more likely considering the slope of khufus temple having the optimal slope? Hard reach but a fun thought
@aaronnunn52409 ай бұрын
Check out star forts pal
@goumyben85269 ай бұрын
You are incredible keep up the great work I joined your membership and am amazed by this technology and makes me want to learn all I can about plasmas
@Somelady464Ай бұрын
So beautiful!!!!🥲
@ElasaTinaMarie9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this invaluable information
@aaronpoage5979 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work. Beginning of a new dawn ✨️
@DrWhom9 ай бұрын
a new scam is what you mean
@UKFishingFinesse6 ай бұрын
I understood very little but still understand how ground breaking and world changing this is!
@icondec9 ай бұрын
Great job Jordan!!!! Wow!!!
@eugenevarbanets38989 ай бұрын
1:13:10 ~Bob speaks about pyramids being "aether vortex generation systems". Where or in what video can we hear him talk more about it?
@Aedonius9 ай бұрын
O Day Dawn of an Old Age
@AG-SYS9 ай бұрын
someone needs to make a 3 minute video that explains all of this, something easy to casually share with others.
@MrThacke9 ай бұрын
Very very good:) The Fountain of Youth is the heart of living ball lightning. Vacuum Tor circuitry is best served phonon pumped (longitudinally and or sine wave ultrasonic) 3 dimensionally funneling plasma commensurate toroidal angular momentum ? It’s time I become more familiar with Plasma Cosmology.
@danielg76808 ай бұрын
Very cool stuff, thanka for the very throurough content
@AngusMorrison9 ай бұрын
Amazing guys, I've been following from the beginning, I've been mesmerized by randal carlson mixed with dr Ibraham kareem/ Robert Gilbert and Robert Edward grant, this combination open sourced is unstoppable, thank you, will share and wide, I've got an opportunity to a beautiful space for a large residential or non residential school to teach this new/ old knowledge on a 200 acre estate in Dorset, uk. what's the best way to contact you, thank you all for your service, one love Angus ❤
@athenamac1149 ай бұрын
Bless you for wanting to pass on the knowledge 😊 I too have resonated to these men, & I’d have to add Dr Bruce Lipton & Nassim Haramein 😊
@AlchemicalScience9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Sounds like a very pleasant place to start a school. You can get in touch at alchemicalscientist@gmail.com
@AngusMorrison9 ай бұрын
@@athenamac114 without a doubt! Thank you.
@jodown55849 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting together such a lengthy video about this! 🙏 I am building my son’s homeschooling curriculum and am wondering if anybody has any book recommendations that I can use to set my son on a path to working with this technology one day. If anybody can recommend any books, I’d really appreciate it! 😊
@raycar11659 ай бұрын
Stickmanonstone has a shop section with some books you might be interested in. Discover Cold Fusion is a comic style book about Martian Fleischmann, the MFMP channel has a review on it. Donald E Scott has written textbooks on electrical engineering and plasma astronomy. MFMP is on one of the featured sections on my profile. Thunderbolts Project may give you an alternative view on cosmology if it hasn’t already shown up on your radar. Much ❤ Love 🌎🌏🌍☯️⚡️ World🌞Peace
@jodown55849 ай бұрын
@@raycar1165 Thank you so much! 🙏 I didn’t know about the stickmanonstone shop or the Discover Cold Fusion book. That book looks awesome! I haven’t gotten Donald Scott’s book, yet, but it’s in my Astronomy list on Amazon, along with Thornhill’s and Talbot’s books. I love that EU stuff. The Astronomy program I’ve been working on for my son is an Astronomy/Mythology program, since the two are so interconnected. Ever since seeing the lengthy Thunderbolts Project documentaries on KZbin and reading Hamlet’s Mill and some of Dwardu Cardona’s work, I just can’t read any ancient mythology without seeing the actions of the planets. Back in 2016, I finally read the Iliad because it happened to be sitting on a shelf at the farm I was staying at in Hawaii, and I was blown away by just how obviously the sections featuring the gods were portraying astronomical figures, though obviously stylized into humanized drama. Once you have it pointed out to you, everything just clicks together and you can see evidence of these past events in all the mythologies around the world! Thanks again for the recommendations!
@tysongirard22667 ай бұрын
You’re doing a great job mate! 👍🇨🇦
@kgb27r9 ай бұрын
Great video ! thank you so much
@Moto_Medics9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of some of the amazing theories on plasmoids on the versadoco channel in relation to them being sentient
@backseatsamurai9 ай бұрын
I have a question: @48:00 If time doesnt exist inside the middle of the torus, does that mean theoretically, a UAP designed on these principles, would allow the occupant to not age while inside the craft? Say fly to Mars, but not age? Or would time not exist, but the human body would be deconstructed into its constituent parts? Become a mass of chemicals and lose structure? Or would the body essentially freeze in a no time space? So fascinating to think about. Im pretty sure most UAP craft are built on these technologies that have been suppressed for so long.
@3_Star_Belt9 ай бұрын
Bravo. Bravo everyone involved and hurra! There is hope and that’s worth more than I can imagine right now.
@DrWhom9 ай бұрын
hope springs eternal
@alexBaldman8 ай бұрын
I just finished Cixin Liu’s book Ball Lightning and am curious if you’ve heard of it. Very intrigued at how specifically along these lines that book is and wonder what you think of the science in that book and how it’s explained.
@AtrusGambit9 ай бұрын
"The Spurit of God hovered over the surface of the waters." Kinda like all life literally came from water. 😮
@aaronstathatos61959 ай бұрын
Randall Carlson brought me here!
@Dirtbikekidlostinthewoods8 ай бұрын
Ian Echternaugt brought me here.
@TheologyUnleashed8 ай бұрын
Your channel is doing well. The algorithm showed me this one.
@johncombs27989 ай бұрын
Hi Jordan. In JJ's third video hunting ancient technology around the 19 min mark there is a carving that reminds me a lot of what Bob is finding! The guide even mentioned a story. I think it's worth having a look if you have time. Edit wait till 20 thirty to hear whole story.