Plate Carrier Considerations for Civilians | Gear Reviews with Mike Glover

[@CC-cn7ev]

I’ll gear up in private, when I did it in a public range or public setting I got talked down by military/cops why I was trying to be like them ever since then I purchased my own land and set up my private range. Thanks for being down to earth, so many cops/military dudes have such big ego’s it’s hard to deal with.

[@MasterBlasterSr]

Fuck them, tell them you bought it because they have it and are a likely enemy in the future as we head toward civil war. And that is the truth.

[@jamfd3s788]

Don’t pay any mind to those type of people your doing what’s right and you HAVE every right as well I never take gear to a random range but look for training classes specifically designed for training in gear or get your own land to train however you like you said

[@Flyingcircustailwheel]

I'm sorry dude, there's a lot of tools that are in.

[@recker3168]

Dude you LARP and have fun at the range. I do it and I don’t give a fuck what people say.

[@littlefinkle7757]

I have shot many matches where I was able to not only beat the brakes off law enforcement but watch my son do the same. When he was 14 he beat the head of the FBI from the state of Louisiana for 11 hrs in the MS state USPSA match. We have seen many law enforcement officers get ego checked. Just remember the ego won't get you home, the training will. 👍

[@fanman8102]

My cousin was in the Corps during Vietnam. Wore the flack jacket and the iron panties. Everybody gave him crap until they saved his jewels from a bouncing bettie. Literally hit him in the crouch. He went one way, the mine went the other. He was wounded but still had grand babies. He laughed when he told me that everybody was wearing them when he got back to his unit.

[@artistandcamera3245]

that an absolutely baller story, lol

[@joshh1693]

@@artistandcamera3245 lol baller

[@celmer6]

Yeah our Vietnam vet's are a priceless commodity for us all. My uncle was a Swift boat veteran and he goes off about "Dazzle paint" from being in the water after 3 boats were shot out from under him. How they got treated when they got home was a absolute disgrace!

[@MRsolidcolor]

war is crazy as fuck! things happen that have no real meaning your just wow

[@BettingOnTheOzarks]

My dad was on PBRs in Nam and he said he only remembered Marines in Flak vests.

[@JohnDoe-on6ru]

"Why are civilians wearing body armor on the range"? Me after watching range fail videos: Shows up in an EOD suit, inside an Abrams tank

[@shuumai]

When a long sleeve shirt just won't cut it!

[@briangrant2005]

🤣🤣🤣

[@thabalance7480]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@raulflores1019]

When I took my first class I was too shy to wear my body armor, but a dude there was like, "Don't worry about what anyone thinks, it's better to wear it and not need it, than to have another beginner accidentally flag and shoot you while you're not wearing it." I wear it at classes 100% of the time now.

[@Calculon_]

Bcz pop goes the weasel

[@MiaogisTeas]

11:44 This is precisely why - when you armor yourself, you're protecting your whole family. It's why we stay in shape and get regular checkups. It's why you keep your vehicle in good working order and check the tires. It's why you get to know the people in your neighborhood. All of these are the ways we protect our loved ones.

[@xxfanboixx]

Duuuude!!! no BS im doing that same shit and people think im nuts or looking too much into it! Nah just looking out for me and mines!

[@playdirtusa]

Best practice is to ABR (always be ready) & pray you never NEED it💪🏻👌🏻

[@intuitivefugitive8852]

I agree but not the neighbors thing. They will steal/rob/shoot you if the economy collapses and they had no food and knew you had plenty. Your neighbors would be your worst nightmare. Good to know their pedigree nonetheless beforehand

[@gregoryduran7266]

I’m building a kit gradually with every paycheck. I’m a civilian without military experience. My goal is preparation for an event where I cannot depend on police or military protection for my family and I. My kit is going to be simple and slick. My AR and pistol are both 100% stock. And I was a Rafael fan!

[@mahbuddykeith1124]

The most important thing is to get training. If you don’t know what you’re doing, then you won’t look cool, and if you don’t look cool…nothing else matters.

[@kaijackson1430]

@Nah Buddy Keith what does your name mean?

[@BranPark-ql9vr]

News flash, were you alive during 2020? If that didn’t show you that law enforcement is a disgrace and are of no help to you then I don’t know what would

[@tatskamaster]

@@BranPark-ql9vr What are you implying lol? The police protected people from vandals, robbers and other criminal "protesters" for months on end.. Sure, they couldn't be everywhere due to the scale of the riots and lack of resources, but they did their best. But yeah you still obviously need your own guns, armor and training to protect yourself from criminals like BLM or antifa.

[@John-k2n6u]

The police will collect their paycheck and follow orders at your expense, sadly, many in the military would too.

[@muspell8015]

Some great considerations, and excellent points made, Mike. So I worked in Armored Car for several years. Worked though the fiery but mostly peaceful stuff too. We had, not in the company but in the industry, so many armored cars robbed or outright killed in El Paso that the FBI set up stings with ghost vans. As a result, the owner of the company wanted the employees to practice more and so she asked me to start taking people out to my range when I would go. Man I can tell you I used to get made fun of a lot in that profession because I ran a red dot and a light on my pistol, and level 4 plates in my carrier. Everyone would laugh at how expensive my gear was, and all that stuff. Yet when you put a red dot handgun in their hands they could suddenly shoot much more easily, even with a gun they never shot before. Like, people went from constellations for shot groups to mostly within an a zone. An hour or two of practice made them significantly better. When my buddy asked me about the armor choice I made, I explained my reasoning and we took a vest out with us. The PROVIDED vest stopped two 9mm rounds before it failed. Two shots from about 7 yards. My plate still isn't dead from countless 30-06, .308, .300blk, 5.56. The main weapons used against couriers are rifles and handguns, usually when we are at ATMs or coming back to the vans. I cant say enough how important rifle armor is in that industry. Anyway, after we showed the videos to the other employees almost all of them upgraded to 3+, and most of them started attending the practice shoots. I know you didn't touch on it, but if I can also just hammer home how important medical gear AND training is. We had a courier working on an ATM. He had just set down his bag full of money and was going through the process of opening the kaba lock when a shot came out from a man hiding in the bed of a truck across a parking lot. The courier was struck in the chest and bled to death, while the people around him thought he "had a heart attack". The attacker's accomplice scooped up the bag of money in the confusion and walked off. Cameras would later help to ID that man, and he turned in the attacker. And while it's a small chance, if someone had medical skills and some gear on scene, that courier might have survived. Basic medical training by some very skilled EMTs out here is $35. Full med kits go for around $100-250. For less than $300, less than my body armor or any of my guns, anyone can get some skills and potentially save someone's life. Civilians should have all the gear they want and need. Gear doesn't make anyone better, but training with the gear sure does help. My apologies for the rambling mess. Good vid.

[@bobbie4862]

Amen. On point sir.

[@TheCinnamonstix]

EMTs are really charging $35 to tell you "rip open this pack of quikclot and stuff the entire roll into the GSW then hold pressure on it?" Let me save you all a dinner at red lobster, the only thing you are really going to be able to do in the field as a civilian, even as a paramedic, is pack the wound with gauze and hold pressure. If someone has a thoracic GSW, they are officially fucked until they are tossed on the operating table. All it takes is holding the roll of quikclot in one hand and using the other to stuff the wound like a turkey. Amazon has a QuikClot trauma package for $23 as of yesterday.

[@3nertia]

Good intel! If only medical training was that available (or that cheap) around here 😢

[@SnapD24]

@@TheCinnamonstix I thought even the military stopped using Quikclot?

[@celmer6]

Back in the 90's I went with EMT training from the local VFD (Volenteer Fire Department) and became a EMT Basic for free and I worked the job for a year to pay for the training. It is a apprentice program that saves lives and serves the community. If you can't afford training there are many options available for you to learn the trade if you choose.

[@sonsofliberty36]

I enjoyed hearing someone say body armor is multi faceted, including in a civilian world. I always wondered why some veterans would get upset seeing people be 'extra" protected. Thanks Mike

[@jonathanpark7658]

I'd get upset seeing a civilian in body armor. The flash backs to having to wear the I.O.T.V. make me angry 😂 If you never had to wear one of those god-awful things be happy. Otherwise I agree with this video, light and fast if at all possible. 90% of the gear I use is light weight hiking gear with small amounts of tactical gear mixed in when needed. I'd drop $1000s in armor plates on the ground rather than carry them any kind of meaningful distance. Ounces are pounds.

[@sonsofliberty36]

@@jonathanpark7658 I agree with a lot of what your saying. I'm saying I'm ok with anyone having a incase of shit kit prepared. Look at Ukraine now. I would find it odd to see someone in kut unless using it for battle or extra training weight. Again my point is if you can have it, have it. Doesn't mean walk Walmart in full kit like a jackass

[@jonathanpark7658]

@@sonsofliberty36 I agree. I just think people who have never had to wear it for long periods of time focus on it being awesome or cool. When I'd focus on being light, fast and maneuverable. Especially in situations like Ukraine, when you are fighting a Superior force. Some situations are obviously different but just my two cents. Beyond that, I completely agree that it should be our right to choose if we want it and how we should use it. I'm more speaking to if it 'makes sense' rather than if we should be 'allowed' to.

[@sonsofliberty36]

@@jonathanpark7658 You are exactly on point.

[@MasterBlasterSr]

@@jonathanpark7658 if the cops or military of the USA have it, civilians should have it, despots don't all live in foreign countries, DC is full of them and they might just have to be put down someday along with those stupid enough to go the "just following orders" route. The 2A is here to put down our own government should it become unconstitutionally out of control. Simple as that.

[@7iEnt]

A few years back I got level3A body armor for my whole family. I'm really happy about the level of thought I give to keeping us all safe. I need to get better and you channel helps me do that. So thank you MGA. I'll make sure I get signed up for a course and some in person training.

[@vinny4430]

I was glued to the set watching your set with Shawn Ryan. You're an amazing guy, a hero, and I hope you have found your new home and family outside the military. Although... It doesnt look or sound like you left...more like you took the best of it with you and went off on your own mission. My son, 3 years from retiring from the Navy, was a Michelangelo fan and that made me Leonardo! Great times... Thank you for all youve done and all you do. V

[@pl274]

Mike would you be willing to revisit this, and show us the brands you have, as well as your setup. I appreciate you having the ability to keep things stupid simple, with simple logical explanations as to why you run your equipment like you do.

[@TheHeadman]

I second this … would love to hear more detail on brands … maybe a solid budget PC as well. We appreciate you Mike

[@DjBELObeatz]

Absolutely slaying with the content. Quality AND quantity!

[@johna2082]

Thanks Mike. Yes. Really grateful for y'all sharing experience and life. Couch warrior..here. but inspired and love you all

[@scoutsout_aroundtheworld1015]

@@Bitter_Blueberry q

[@carsonkouts]

All I'm saying is I used to live in Tacoma and in the area we were at there were a ton of drug houses and issues, just right off of Fort Lewis. One day there was a big gang shootout that lasted for like 20 minutes in our apartment complex, and ended with a drive by that sent a bunch of stray rounds into the apartments. Struck a baby and a few other people. Rather have armor to toss on my kids or myself or whoever is with me than not have anything at all. Part of why I almost bought a Kevlar blanket when we lived there with our daughter.

[@rmossman88]

I used to tattoo in tillicompton (tillicum) and I can sympathize 😂. Rough area for sure. Now I’m in Albuquerque, which is no better. One day I hope to move to a nice area.

[@carsonkouts]

@@rmossman88 damn you traded one shit show for another. except the one you are at now gets a hell of a lot colder. When I was active duty we used to do a lot of training with the ranger battalions in Albuquerque and man it got cold as shit. like 500 of us all in a warehouse with no power or heat mid October. sucked ass.

[@AnthonyPardiMusic]

@@carsonkouts It is getting worse still. Been in Seattle for over a decade now and I really really want out. I used to love this city/state but idk anymore...

[@carsonkouts]

@@AnthonyPardiMusic I was stationed there for 8 years and it was shit the entire time. at least around fort Lewis area. place is low key ghetto as fuck

[@Janzer_]

i've got two drug houses on the block alone, south tx. working on getting the city to do something about it is like punching yourself in the face. the fun thing is, if you do something about it, you're at fault. but if you ask the cops to show up, they don't bother. so drugs run everything basically. even the current administration is giving out free stuff for meth heads. good times when people that would make things safer are the ones that would go to jail :)

[@phenominalblak9797]

Raphael was definitely my guy! 🤣 I really appreciate this content. I’m a civilian, and I’ve never served in the armed forces, however as an individual who is in the midst of learning how to protect himself and his loved ones, I really really value the information you offer. Thank you for your service and thank you for the knowledge that you pass along!

[@normantiedemannii5236]

My man, thank you. I am civillian with family and am looking to continue to provide and protect in the best way possible. This may or may never be necessary. However, I intend on planning for the worst and hoping for the best. Thank you for this vidoe, it was informative and influential. And thank you to for yuor service to our country. God bless.

[@acdoctor8572]

When you said Body Armor for your loved ones, it hit home. Makes perfect sense to wrap them up in as much protection as possible without preventing them from moving quickly when the need arises. GREAT video as always! Thank you for sharing your experiences and being able to relate your experiences to our current situations. Being prepared for everything from natural emergencies to civil unrest makes so much sense. We live in a world where the Wolves and Hyenas are not just knocking on our doors, but are putting in place internal and external breeches. GOD Bless you and your Team for helping those who are willing to receive the knowledge!

[@markusgreen629]

Got myself a set of Prime Armor over a year ago. Now when Mike mentioned them on top of a ton reviews that I saw I feel more confidence using my armor. Great episode!

[@mountainskyaerialphotograp3921]

Nice info MIke. I was not in the military, just a retired LEO. Firearms instructor and trained by FBI HRT. I have a Level III vest from my working days and also a Level IIIA plate carrier similar to the one you showed. It would be my expectation that if my wife and I need it, things are really bad, and I mean the country is falling apart. My father always said it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Thanks for your service.

[@BirdDogey1]

I have my body armor still. It's expired but I figure better than nothing.

[@mountainskyaerialphotograp3921]

@@BirdDogey1 Agreed. I think it will be fine.

[@JoeDirt-lf6sb]

@@BirdDogey1 Yeah you’ll be fine. It never really ‘expires.’ The manuafacturer’s ‘expiration date’ is just the date up to which the company is willing to vouch for it’s effectiveness. Going past that date changes nothing whatsoever about the armor. One thing that can diminish tho is soft kevlar that gets saturated. Apparently that can have a negative effect on performance, although I’ve never had the physics of it explained to me.

[@ryanflyhigh36]

Love the fact you stay true to you, Mike… It’s hilarious and authentic. It’s just awesome!! As always, great knowledge nuggets…

[@manny75586]

1. I'm a Michaelangelo as well 2. Greatly appreciate the perspective 3. I "get" why some people think civilians wearing armor and helmets is "dorky" and some do get a little dorky. That said, why not use every tool you have at your disposal to your advantage? If you are in a home defense scenario where you have time to armor up before a potential breach of your house, why not gain more advantage? Your points about family members was also a very underrated point. If I have an 8 year old daughter, I'm not tossing her a SCAR to cover me. I'd much rather have a system in place where she knew if she heard me shout an action alert she knows to put a vest on and hide in the closet. The more protected, the better.

[@Thearmedpainter]

Always nice to see a veteran giving information to help civilians too, any time I can hear information from someone based on their experiences I try to soak it up. Its useful information but also the context was probably the best part. Any time I run into a vet who has stories they want to share I usually buckle up for the ride, its stuff that as a civilian (short of WWIII) I will never experience and its interesting to digest.

[@LivingGrey]

Been watching your stuff for years and this is the best production value and editing you've ever had. Good stuff fam!

[@yonfen3050]

First, I was a Donatello guy. Loved the Bo staff. 2nd, amazing content as always. This is a completely civilian opinion; taking in all you said I feel like a critical part is knowing the terrain you’re going to navigate (the mission). Being able to have peak mobility, concealment, and balancing with protection of all facets. I liked the points regarding the usage for your family; my wife is very inexperienced and my girls are only 4 and 6 so obviously. Def some nuggets to take in and tailor the craft and approach. Thank you as always Mike!

[@JohnDoe-zg6fn]

Donatello FTW!!!

[@Ebonforge]

Donatello as well but in the techie nerd sort of way.

[@jayklink851]

"I crave pizza no more!" Michelangelo was my favorite.

[@snipershot013]

👊🏾😉🤣

[@trunkmonkey81]

Also Donatello was the cerebral one.

[@davidballan4524]

The only reason I even bought my plate carrier was to be able to stay in a position to protect my family. It wasn’t even a thought when I only had to worry about myself. Thanks for the video Mike

[@SouthernRebel1970]

I'm glad you suggested training with your plate carrier. Most people don't realize how much difference it makes. But they'll realize it real quick the first time they try to shoulder a long gun and that buttstock doesn't go into their shoulder the same way because (shocker!) the plate carrier strap is in the way!

[@MadChazzler]

My boy was Donatello. Content wise, I love your videos. They're highly informative without being condescending or conceted.

[@Palm_Breeze]

Your take on pistol red dots, the evolution of them being used in special operations and what you personally use would be a great topic to cover.

[@robinsok]

I know you were asking Mike, but if you haven't tried a dot, you should. It's a fantastic upgrade. It's self diagnostic. If you flinch, if you're wobbly, you see it. Dry fire with a dot is incredible, as you can see so easily your mistakes, train to make that dot stay still through a trigger press, and you're going to improve your shooting. I practice by keeping the dot ON a light switch in my house at over 10 yards. I'm 4 years into dots on all my pistols, and I think the term game changer is overused, but it fits here. The other thing that I think is huge about RDS is situational awareness/target focus. Yes, you can shoot 2 eyes open with irons, but to me, it's not the same as full time target focus. I don't think anyone but maybe EXTREMELY high level shooter would think that they would actually front site focus under extreme stress. With an RDS, it's not even a consideration, as there are no focal planes to consider.

[@mikeoxlong9568]

@@robinsok based take

[@fox1actual]

I have red and green dots and to be honest I prefer iron sights.

[@somethinganything4864]

This new production style you guys are going with is top notch.

[@henryslab]

Love the production quality of this video. I had been wondering about body armor. I'm glad you made this video and gave those considerations. You guys have everything you need to become a media conglomerate! Keep it up!

[@jonathanpark7658]

Being a big guy myself, I 'feel' why you'd use the small plates. The largest plates around, shoved into an IOTV, was a bit insane. But when you are worried about IEDs every bit of armor plate and kevlar starts to sound good. Let the mission dictate the gear.

[@raymundomarroquin7105]

I appreciate your willingness to share your skills, knowledge, and experience with the "Civilian World" plus the recommendations that you make - plus the care that you use in your communication. Thank you!

[@bmwolfe2786]

Best video I’ve seen on the topic. Incredibly concise, real, accurate, quality, etc. Thanks man, this was awesome. Mikey was Orange, bro! C’mon now

[@gijoe923]

I would like to hear more about the long range reconnaissance.The principles and guidelines of living off the land and staying hidden. The mindset of tracking and counter tracking. The load out and what to bring what not to bring. Great content, greatly appreciate the knowledge transfer and reasoning on why you do what you do.

[@petemitchell6788]

That’s a fantasy dude.

[@gijoe923]

@@petemitchell6788 would you mind elaborating for me brother? Yes depending on your target and their technology capabilities, I do see it fundamentally unrealistic to expect total concealment. But I am referring to the whole scheme of operations. The why, the lessons learned, the future considerations, and the what to do if shit goes wrong.

[@haroldenglish943]

Long range sniper reconnaissance. Do you understand what you wrote in your first sentence? A sentence of words that mean complete and total opposite if each other plus redundancy. Sniper operations are long range and reconnaissance is gathering intelligence without detection so sniping isn't the objective, EVER! I suggest you read some books and do some practical, short training sessions. Gear- Well a knife and water are two great ideas. Anything else will take time to figure out. You might like an Alice and I something else. You might like gloves and I don't. You might like a sleeping bag and I don't. You might like a pop tent and I don't. Gear is like assholes and techniques, everyone has one and they are vary slightly.

[@dustinhill330]

Could get a lot of information from backcountry hunters. Same idea-ish but more practicable (if you have large public land tracts close by) then you could fine tune your own gear towards what you like and don’t like. Also garandthumb is doing a series on recce you might like 👍🏼

[@masonwilkes7000]

Grandthumb has a video series on long range reconnaissance. No sniper involved.

[@williammoseley17]

Purchased First Spear plates and carrier 2 years ago. Best equipment ever bought. Visited their production facility and warehouse. It is a top notch company that provides a quality American made product.

[@inferninx]

Hey Mike! Thanks for the awesome advice. As a concerned and prepared civilian, I really appreciate the information and experience you’re providing to people like myself, my family and others so we can make better decisions and really think through things in terms of setting up kit and maximizing it’s potential if need be. Personally, I like a lot of the stuff from Velocity systems. The reason is because they make really good quality and lightweight body armor if you can get your hands on it, but mostly because they make the Mayflower UW Gen4 Chest rig, which is a pretty fantastic piece of kit overall. It’s pretty lightweight and not very bulky, but holds 4 AR rifle magazines, two double stack pistol mags and can still hold other necessary equipment like radios, IFAKS, food, GPS’s, printed maps and other necessary items in its extra GP pouches. Regardless of what flavor of choice you decide to run in terms of Plate Carriers, or what your mission needs are, The Mayflower UW chestrig can easily be swift clipped in and then strapped over a multitude of lightweight and lower vis plate carriers and cumberbunds, or even on top of something that is inherently more scalable like a JPC. Trex arms makes a great back strap which really helps the Mayflower UW integrate into almost any modern plate carrier that has the ability to accept swift clip placards, since it allows you to take off the chestrig shoulder harness portion altogether and run it as a placard style setup that saves weight and cuts down on bulk and unnecessary straps being everywhere. Increased comfort, less bulk and lighter overall weight are always beneficial in my mind as well. If you needed to ever don or doff the chestrig part of the plate carrier in order to drop weight in the front or bulk for scaling a building or climbing, or for making your signature move low vis, it literally just swiftclips and velcros in and out in seconds instead of having to be hard MOLLE’d to your kit which takes time. You could simply throw it into a bag and run a more slick setup until you wanted to scale up your kit, and then bam, you have a very usable and capable in my opinion fighting setup to supplement your rifle, pistol, comms, and still have room for other essential kit. Check them out if you haven’t already, because they’re absolutely one of my favorites in terms of people producing great body armor kit these days. www.velsyst.com/collections/chest-rigs/products/uw-chest-rig-gen-iv www.trex-arms.com/store/T-REX-Back-Strap/

[@David-wc7lx]

I might be giving away my age but Buggs Bunny was my guy. Excellent presentation by the way. The service you provide is priceless.

[@tcap2112]

10:19 Mike flexing some spoken word, can’t wait to see him perform at a Black Rifle cafe in the future.

[@jackbrown7341]

If I could afford it; I, would have two vests; I, carry my guns everyday and everywhere I go. I'm a cancer fighter for the last 3.5 years now. And I've been a Patriot all of my life. I won't let, not having body armor stop me from defending myself and others....

[@mftripz8445]

I know you didn’t reveal you having cancer as a pity point, but that really sucks man. If you have time, I’d think someone like you could benefit extremely significantly from reading a book called “Radical Remission”. It’s about these really awesome cases of stage 4 cancer patients who were able to effectively “kill” their cancer through enlightenment and natural methods. You are probably way more experienced in life then I am, however as one victim(distant) to another of western medicine, realize that Western medicine does not care for your remission as they can’t make a profit off a one-off cure. The human body is extremely amazing at healing, we just are never taught how to listen to it. Good luck, and I hope you are well off in your future endeavors!

[@MiaogisTeas]

Gotta stay in the fight no matter what - f cancer!

[@ianthompson2446]

Hope u good bro

[@robertkb64]

Similar, though in my case the surgeons had to remove big chunks of bone out of a dozen vertebrae. I have two sets: IIIa soft armor that’s inside a compression shirt and undetectable under a t-shirt (Spartan Armor Systems in Tucson) and a plate carrier with level IV+ (combined ceramic strike face + UHMWPE) including side plates and non-Newtonian fluid trauma pads (which is hilarious to see when I’m in my wheelchair), loaded up with better than my issued kit (I rolled snake-eyes as a teenager and got shot at my high school, so I’m prepared to save my kids if needed). It’s also convenient going to the range :) Check for Black Friday deals when you can - I was willing to have heavier and more protective plates that I wear rarely and so saved money there, then spent more on the concealable which I wear every day. I just bought my kids backpack inserts for example (I got shot in the backpack, so personal experience tells me that’s the most likely threat for them) and because of a deal it was BOGO letting me have peace of mind for my twins at the same time.

[@ravenblacktop14]

Awsome insight and input MikeG! Love how you explained everything in the simpliest form. Having body armor my sound excessive to some one, but prepared is never wrong. I support you and your company all the way! From one Asian to another Filipino pride 🇵🇭.

[@josephdailey7775]

I've had a tyr pico general with dfndr plates for almost a decade and as a civilian being able comfortably do fun n sun or run n gun in the woods is awesome. Light weight and manuverable.

[@MVEZombie]

Clint Smith said something along the lines of 'The thing about body armor is the person shooting at you has to know how to shoot for it to protect you' and I was like "damn, I never really thought about that!". Great point on your part as well.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

If you have sufficiently rated armor, to injure you they have to shoot around it.

[@MVEZombie]

@@Kyle-sr6jm Right, meaning someone who can't hold their point of impact at center of mass is more likely to hit you outside of the protection zone.

[@genises200]

@@MVEZombie ima be honest man. I've seen more people shot in Mexico city, El Paso, and Texas shot more and killed more because of rounds hitting them around center mass. Sure some have been shot in the arm, legs or head. But if they had body armor they would've had a much more greater chance of surviving

[@MVEZombie]

@@googoo7750 What does any of that have anything to do with what I said?

[@ZombieLincoln666]

Well yes it’s not a magic force-field. Like seatbelts, it improves your odds of survival

[@michaelnyden8056]

Every time I watch Mike, I find out we have more in common, first the same first name then we both are into cars then we both favor michaelangelo as our favorite TMNT:). I’ve been around tons of tier one guys and have gone to their classes and have gotten to know them, of all of them it seems cag guys and green berets are always the most easy going, down to earth even more than all the rest and usually the most humble too.

[@HC-ov2hh]

Mike thanks for all the good content. It’s amazing that we civilians can learn from hardened military people experiences. What is most amazing is that it is free on KZbin! 😎🙏

[@MrSwaggerLlama]

Props to the crew. Excellent camera work and editing

[@littlefinkle7757]

I have the Agilite K19 and have been really happy with it! Working out with your armor is paramount. No matter what kind of shape you are in, you have to put time in with the equipment you plan to use.

[@henrypark7381]

Agilite k19 and amap III are truely fantastic products. Th3 company is top tier and having the products available to the general public is really a serious privilege. I feel they are aerodynamic, light, intuitive, utilitarian, durable and quality. Low profile and swift is how the platforms operate. Everyone pls look into agilite if you have the time

[@zzkeithgng]

Michelangelo was my turtle. Love the video, a Mike. Your perspective is extremely valuable to so many of us. Please don’t stop what you are doing. Thank you!

[@chrisyanes7174]

When i was moving, some friends came to help. They saw my body armor (never was in military) and asked why i had it. I said "why not?"

[@catman4x466]

Yep know the feeling.

[@metasolo1222]

Been there. It’s called freedom.

[@TheDkb427]

But why? Do you plan on getting shot at? Do you plan on shooting ppl that'll shoot back? Doesn't wearing it shows intent? Plus you have to have it on before shit hits the fan but most shooting you don't get a heads up before hand.

[@IAM_GodKing]

I Always Say Just In Case

[@vittoriovuocolo2438]

My wife is a liberal and she is retired army but she is coming around some sliwly other than that i dont mess with liberals.

[@localbrew73]

I completely agree with you on training with a plate carrier and yes Mike you're awesome! Keep up the great videos and content brother!

[@PawgSlayer]

Love the edits, beautiful piece.

[@9252LIFE]

Thanks for the video. I have a wife and four daughters and a boy on the way. It’s nice to get some insight on how I can protect my family better in a bad situation

[@elitesless1539]

Dude, thank you for a good vid on this topic. I’m a civilian driver scooping up random passengers here about a year after this vid. I’m researching options I could drive with for long periods but can also protect me from stabbing. The soft stuff seems to be able to stop up to rifle rounds but doesn’t seem to be able to stop a knife. The harder stuff like ceramics and steel are the way to go. Appreciate your info brother!

[@BigSkyGuyWhy]

I want to say thank you for your service and although that was amazing and important to so many, what you're doing now is even BIGGER. Keep it up. Educate the civilian. Our protectors like you (in our current Armed Forces) are being removed. Can't show you my appreciation enough.

[@theeastcoastprepper8737]

Very thought provoking content. Can’t get enough of your podcasts and videos

[@kombatkarl44]

I am constantly learning as I go....seeing different videos of different kits....from those who have used them down range....gives me a better insight and different point of view for my own set up....I am a US Navy Vet myself....but was never issued armor kits for war fighting....just soft armor for security duties....thanks for the video and information....

[@apache2golf]

Love the way you share your experience. A lot of it lines up with my own experience in the great GWOT. I was just a knuckle dragged, but will say I would have killed for a plate carrier, 100%. The gear I wore: chest rigs, attached pouches all depended on the mission. It was an evolution in thinking for me as a young corporal. Command hated and often shit me down, because me and my guys didn’t adhere to their uniform dress right dress. That stuff didn’t work 99% of the time. I wanted to live and not die because the kit was wrong or wore us out. I’ve sold some kit over the years, I wish I hadn’t. Regardless, great info, great video, and I appreciate you for being a great inspiration for so many. Keep on keeping on.

[@Flynnster70]

The way you outlined pros cons and reasoning was fantastic. Thank you for keeping it to the basics and yet covering all the bases.

[@TheBigLeeg]

I like his perspective on why civilians should own body armor. They make weight to wear for circuit training that cost as much. Why not invest in armor and 2 bird it?

[@jimcalifwin3760]

Yes to plates. My Healthcare contract took me to a few questionable places. I was over cautious. Carried a 12G in a case to living quarters in town. Jammed door shut ate from cans til morning shift.left plate in vehicle. Today it is for my family.

[@markusgreen629]

I take it as a part of the 2nd amendment. We got right to keep and bear arms so as to body armor.

[@celmer6]

In the current market you can buy rifle rated plates and the carrier for $99-$500 on a budget easily. The gun's and ammo went 1st and then everyone moved on to night vision and armor. Welcome to Gunpocholypse and Ammogeddon.

[@markusgreen629]

@@celmer6 If you can trust $99 armor. I am not. Maybe $500 per set of plates plus $150-$250 per carrier. But those are just my standards, cheaper means China, poor materials or lack of functionality.

[@Fight4Freedom1911]

@@markusgreen629 same here but he really was spec ops using china spec ops cheap carriers lol

[@rkba4923]

The oldest definition of "arms" I could find included Body Armor: "Weapons of Offence, or Armour of Defence." (sic). A founding era definition I found was: "Any Thing that may be used for offensive or DEFENSIVE purposes; usu. refers to weapons of MILITARY UTILITY." [EMPHASIS MINE]. The founders knew the difference between long guns, handguns, swords, etc. and could have easily said, "the right of the people to keep and carry handguns (or shotguns, or long guns openly, or any number of other things)," but they didn't. They used the term "arms". Contrary to Obiden's ignorant statement, Americans could and did buy and own cannons at time of the founding. Otherwise, what would have been purpose of including the power to issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal in the Constitution; and, furthermore, why did they actually do so, and to whom, a couple times?!

[@jctedsap]

And we can still buy and own cannons.

[@libertyprime9307]

I saw a cannon on 2 wheels at Cabella's, for like $3,000.

[@markl6769]

Yup you can and always could own a cannon.

[@CommunismIsCringe]

Make Corsairs Great Again!

[@MiaogisTeas]

My great grandfather Major Joseph Edmundson had a cannon which he famously set off every Sunday at noon after church. And this was in New Zealand! How far we have fallen.

[@cyphre]

Oh man, I have a Paraclete RAV. Was definitely ahead of its time, albeit overbuilt in a variety of ways. First to have a ripcord for getting yourself out of it too!

[@redrider762]

RAV won the BALCS carrier game in 2003 even with their odd numbered PALS layout. The CIRAS and RBAV wasn't even close.

[@crushcafe507]

Michaelangelo for sure!!! Numchucks all the way as a kid ! Great videos and information you are sharing... wish I lived near Utah to train with you and learn.

[@davidray2682]

I am an American who moved to Canada. I got my firearms license and bought gear because the mindset doesnt leave just because youre in a new country. I get looks at the range when I go in my plate carrier, warbelt, and combat clothes but I truly believe that I will need this. When I bought my body armor I bought 3+ plates instead of lv 4 because the weight savings were most important to me as well as knowing that Canadians dont have access to anything better than M855 and M80 rounds, in a SHTF situation, the 3+ WOULD be the best option. Knowing that the majority of people up here will not be as equipped as I am, gives me a great feeling of preparedness.

[@dasgespenst979]

Love the content. I bought 3A years ago for oldest son and also purchased III+ about 3 years ago. I have trained in it a couple of times and some people do think it's crazy that I have armor. But I find it quite sad that I have more protective armor than the LEOs in town

[@Scruffers2011]

I got my wife and I front/back sets of Shotstop GT (green tip) armor placed in HRT plate carriers. Each plate weighs only 3.8 lbs and is rated to defeat everything up to and including the M855A1 round. My theory is, if you have a rifle, you should count on someone shooting at you with a rifle.

[@3nertia]

Kind of like; "If you have a knife, be ready to treat knife wounds. If you have a gun, be ready to treat gunshots" heh

[@jimcalifwin3760]

My steel 7 pounders SUCK. My wife is negative about everything except. Food storage. So my reply .

[@RookTalks]

@@jimcalifwin3760 Do yourself a favor and ditch the steel, grab some IV ceramics from any of these companies (RMA, Highcom, LTC and Tencate) so in the event that you are shot at, you actually live through it if the plate is struck.

[@Scruffers2011]

@@RookTalks ShotStop aren’t steel, but I agree with you for anyone who has steel, ditch them. ShotStop plates are made of Duritium, are very slim .6” and very light 3.6 lbs with excellent coverage area.

[@RookTalks]

@@Scruffers2011 Yeah I was just speaking on Jim's comment about his steel 7lb. Glad you went quality! 🤙

[@KurtOnoIR]

I recently tested a couple plates and a polish Kevlar carrier with plate that was getting older. The tactical scorpion plate did hold up as advertised, it took a bunch of 5.56, 55 and 62gr from an 18" barrel at 20 yards. Took a mag of m80 ball 308 from a c308 at the same distance, I finally punctured it with a 224 valkyrie 55grn solid copper hand load moving about 3200fps. The polish one, kevlar stopped 9mm, .357sig and 5.7 blue tip vmax. The plate stopped 62grn green tips but then failed to stop 55grn 5.56 out of the 18" barrel so I tested it no further. The small increase in velocity was too much for it. The kevlar was really nice tho, ill probably try to get another and just put a better plate in it.

[@bonsaw57]

Did the first vest you use stop the green tips?

[@KurtOnoIR]

@@bonsaw57 yes it did no problem.

[@rmarms6702]

Tactical Scorpion plates are very good

[@KurtOnoIR]

@@rmarms6702 yes I was surprised.

[@MasterBlasterSr]

no 6.5?

[@michiganoutpost2312]

Makes thier bags little heavier but since the backpack armor has been released I have purchased one for all my children. Thanks Mike for the content. New subscriber keep the Video's coming.

[@unhingedreality9518]

Great vid & excellent topic. I retired (LE) before the use of plate armor and your insight is appreciated.

[@markcarico546]

I've been following your videos since the start of the cough and I am really enjoying seeing you really hit your stride making content. Any chance we can see more medical stuff? I know it's tricky giving "medical advice" on youtube but primers on each item and different ways to use them. Also more general preparedness stuff like canning, food storage, solar, home water purification, etc... Thanks for all you do brother.

[@chloedemeter5473]

Skinny Medic channel has great medical info.

[@aarona8203]

I have AR500 armor with 3 mag pouches and yes I got it for holding my stuff and of course ballistics. When I can afford it I'm getting my family a set so they are safe. Thanks Mike awesome content as always.!

[@RookTalks]

Why did you go AR500? Why steel body armor over quality multicurve ceramic plates that cost roughly the same?

[@frankernest3712]

Do not give AR500 any more of your cash. There are better options out there for the money

[@SaladDressing69]

Please be aware of spall and spalling.

[@tizben]

@@RookTalks what multicurve plate is the same price as ar500?

[@110graham]

@@tizben maybe not the exact same but RMA has decent ceramic plates for reasonable prices

[@MotoChurro]

As a civilian, I'm all for us having it. It's a must have in my home.

[@agentsnakeplisskin]

U really think ur gunna have time to put that shit on when someone breaks in? Lol haha. Or ur thinking about red dawn huh? Lol haha Stop watching movies.

[@brianwynn4968]

This is good stuff. Always like hearing from the operators who had body armor as their almost daily wear. Over the last two years I've bought two plate carriers from AR 500 which seemed to be the best bang for the buck and it's decent time frame for civilian BA setups. My hat off to the operators who dealt with full weight plates and your ability to adapt it to your needs in the field.

[@tmorg1029]

My son is a Mikey guy. I'm a Donnie guy. Loved the Bo Staff. Being a Vietnam Vet, the wonderful "Brillo Pads" were a pain but never got the iron panties! As to the body armor of today I have a Vism Pro plate carrier by NCStar with 3A Flexible on side and level 4 plate front/back. minimal front pockets (3 mag pouch), coms antenna fed thru back of plate carrier, the rest of pistol/rifle mags on belt with com unit. My son also has the same. We also have 3A+ helmets Hiking in the woods is no fun but it does build stamina. Oh, BTW I'm disabled and still try to train. Some days it works, some days it doesn't. We do practice comms at the range and out in the woods. Get use to using your gear it will save your life.

[@swatdoc12498]

A lot died from exanguination from extremity wounds…now we use Tourniquet’s. I have SF friends who duct taped their plates onto their gear because there were no plate carriers!

[@lemorelgambino9882]

Yeah that wouldn’t last a whole operation tbh

[@jonghwa79]

HAHAHAHA ASIANS REVIEW THINGS! YES! Best title EVER!

[@pmorin313]

Dayton Armor makes level 4 plates that are insanely light, if I recall correctly each 10 x 12 plate weighs 2.5 lbs. Your gonna pay a premium for them....

[@popinmo]

They aren't level 4 at 2.5 plates today made of ceramic and uhmwpe Wich for a level for plate unless they invent a magic material is gonna weigh more then that

[@pmorin313]

@@popinmo I did some research and found I was incorrect...what is considered their level 4 plates are 4.5 lbs and their level 3 Alpha are less then two pounds.... Also I've read that Dayton Armor through a 3rd party provides armor to the Varsity team....

[@klausphx]

Any info or Teaching a Skill is much appreciated. Thanks for your time Mike

[@karmacomesaround3082]

Great video Mike! This past Christmas I bought plate carriers with armor for my three boys and they loved it.

[@joemilligan3695]

Mike, great video. I went from the Police world into the contracting world with Blackwater. I moved from OGA to WPPS and then to the Army as a LEP. Each time I had to change my body armor to fit the work I was doing. Now back in the normal world I still train with groups and that has required even another body armor change. Also glad you mentioned the family aspect.

[@paulnelson9907]

Body armor was a flack vest in the late 70's it was used to line your seat in the UH1 it was rated for a 22lr. Now days I have AWS plate carrier for myself and family Derma plate carrier for the younger ones. I'm an old man now not able keep up with the young guys III+ plates. I'm a static defense now as upper 60's and falling apart health wise. No knees, arthritis in hands and feet. So glad you guys made it thru GWOT as healthy as you are.

[@Beavereaver]

Adopting a siege mentality is ultimately self defeating. Delegate tasks to family members and close friends. Mobility = survival.

[@andymorales6907]

I was wearing my cheapish setup (Vism carrier stuffed with LAPG ceramic plates) at a local SoCal range one time and everything was fine. Few weeks later me and my buddy went there again and while we were in the queue, still outside of the office waiting to get inside the manager came up to me and asked if I could step away from the line a little. Then he asked me if I could take it off and leave it in the car instead of going to the lane like this, implying that if others see me in it they may think it's unsafe to be shooting there and it may hurt the business. I did as he wished, but was thinking wtf nevertheless.

[@VERITASPUREBLOOD]

that guy shouldn't work at a range imo

[@AZTECB0Y]

I am able to hear your sincerity and honesty, very admirable of you to provide this information. I thank you for your service!

[@tinysupreme6417]

I'm a large individual and I was having a hell of a time finding level 4 plates in size 11"x14". You made a lot of good points about mobility and it made me realize I have been searching for this 11"x14" level 4 unicorn for no good reason at all.

[@jimpowers4463]

Being an avid over thinker, as most Navy Nukes are and one that like to tinker with gadgets, Donatello was always my man.

[@DioRando98]

Edits are stupid good.

[@ZUELK_]

Production value.

[@conradallen703]

Michelangelo’s color is orange so you must be saying that you are like Raphael cause his was red so that must mean you’re the outlier kind of the lone wolf!! Merry Christmas, Mike to you and your family. Thank you for everything you do.

[@scottjones8664]

Mike, you are awesome. I just recently found you and am trying to keep up with all your different channels, lol. Raphael was my favorite TMNT, btw.

[@NicFeistMedia]

Whatever you do, do not buy steel plates. Buy ceramic. Steel plates will create spall when rounds hit them (yes, even with “anti-spall coating”), and you will catch that spall in your thighs and face. There are many reviews proving this to be the case.

[@metasolo1222]

Ceramic is waaaay spensive for most folks. But sure, get it if you can.

[@Bestportlandcleaners]

@@metasolo1222 Not really. If actually buy "decent" steel armor with proper coding, curve, and "lightweight" plus trauma pads it will be the same cost for some companies out there.

[@richardsimmons9]

ceramic will fail if you take a 2nd round in the same general area. Steel is heavy I get it but there are options to deal w spalling, there is no options for failed ceramic.

[@NicFeistMedia]

@@richardsimmons9 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYi7fWunarqCp7M

[@Bestportlandcleaners]

And I assume m193 not punching straight through that steel plate?

[@chinaeyes08]

It’s awesome to see how different your presentation is from Shawn Ryan 001. I’m definitely gonna look into the plates you briefly mentioned but any civilians looking for plates should definitely check out RMA. The tactical field especially is super difficult to navigate and I’m extremely happy that I did the research beforehand and purchased them. 100% made in Centerville Iowa, full ceramic plates up to lvl 4, sells to civilians, and most importantly are NIJ certified..not “tested to NIJ standards”. It’s a shame to see so many fall for the AR500 steel plates when you can have legit ceramics (the 1155 single curves are heavier than Uncle Sams plates) for the same price.

[@DIYDale-rz8bd]

I was literally about to update my plates last night when I came across this video. Initially was going to buy Hescos L210, then moved to RMA, then seen this video and thought "If Mike is talking about a specific armor, I know he won't sling shit and sell out for some cash" So I ended up ordering me a set of Prime Level IV last night. haha

[@derrickvarnadore1682]

This is one of only a few interactions that’s made me feel ok about the dedication to being a well trained civilian. To many folks in the community are ashamed of their lack of service and take it to mean they have no right to work towards being a proficient bad ass. “Behind every blade of grass.”

[@haroldenglish943]

You Sir, have the correct mindset. No person or Government is responsible for your "Individual" safety and well being. You are also part of the "Militia" for your community whether or not you want to be. Being a responsible citizen is more than paying taxes. Its taking an active participation in your community, socially and politically, and being prepared for emergencies, whatever that is.

[@cliccclacc6561]

When it comes here all those who are unprepared will change their tone

[@chloedemeter5473]

Or they'll just double down and rat you out to the Stasi 2.0. Most "people" are worthless narcissistic cowards.

[@dangerousfreedom5340]

Too*

[@evilangel8194]

When shit goes down All the people talking crap making jokes will hiding behind you when the lead starts flying more than likely 99.9 percent of time nothing will ever happen you'll probably never have point your weapon at some one but one time you decide you don't need it or carry that's when crap goes down your kicking yourself in the behind , if something happens to this country we were in a dire crisis the guys with gun and gear will be ok all liberals gun control morons would be dead within a month

[@Kjklump]

I used to have some lvl 3 plates that I purchased for several rifle classes that required it to attend. Used a shellback banshee the a grey ghost MPC. That was about all I ever used it for. Much preferred running courses in a small chest rig and a belt. For the price most people are going to get far more out of that money buying ammo and a pistol course and a med course. But if you've got trained up and got the extra coin, it isn't going to hurt owning some armor.

[@rgriffinRETIRED_SHEEPDOG]

Just found your channel and love it! Awesome that you reference the North Hollywood shootout. I used to use that scenario/footage when training cops. Those guys had the kit and the weapons but, lacked the training/mindset to assault their way out of the cordon. I’ll be taking your company’s training in Florida soon. Thanks for the great resources.

[@tcap2112]

5:15 that’s Rafael bro… unsubscribed

[@donaldwilliamson4146]

Donatello!!!

[@shuumai]

Back when the riots were happening, I asked my wife what she thought about having body armor in the car, just in case she got stuck in a dangerous event. She said she would NOT wear it. I guess there is no solution to that other than the danger hitting closer to home.

[@scout3058]

It's a deep dive into psycology to get the detailed answer, but the short version is that most women are averse to even thinking about danger because it is uncomfortable for them. My wife is an active duty Marine, and even she won't discuss armor, home security measures, EDC of a pistol etc.

[@stephenedwards5038]

@@scout3058 Glad I'm not alone, have tried everything. Any suggestions, I'm all ears.

[@scout3058]

@@stephenedwards5038 I just went out and bought my wife a pistol, and then battered her over the head with news reports of assaults etc, home invasions, had friends that she respects talk to her and fonally we got a home security system, and she got her CCW permit, but it took years and only recently changed.

[@12vscience]

@@scout3058 I have a similar situation with my family. I tried to coach my sister on how to shoot and she refused to make any adjustments. Years back I tried to put a fire extinguisher in my mom's house and she said she didn't like the way it looked and didn't want to see it. I put it in the garage.

[@scout3058]

@@12vscience There's not much of a chance when it comes to fixing willfull ignorance. The key that opened the lock for my wife, and made her begin to second guess her position, was when our next door neighbors house (in New Orleans) was broken into by the ladys convicted (for manslaughter with a firearm) son. We lived in a townhouse at the time and she realized that the guy was only inches away on the other side of the wall, and could have easily entered our house if he wanted to (it was night and we were sleeping at the time).

[@stevensrspcplusmc]

When I was in the Marines 83-89 my first flak vest was a Vietnam issue, we got the new stuff in 85, it had no use ! Except to slow projectiles! I now have a crye JPC with level 4 Sapi plates.. love it ! I keep it slick and simple , awesome setup 👍🇺🇸

[@recon1986]

Ive had the same plate carrier for a long time... when i was in 3rd recon in the marines i used the crye jpc and now i use a jpc 2.0 and wouldnt use any other besides the velocity SCARAB.. my jpc 2.0 is set up perfectly for any situation i can carry up to 10 mags on my kit plus 1 on my belt as well as having a MAP pack made by eagle industries on my back as a hydration carrier/ mag, battery compartments.. i also have a IFAK sleeve attached to the rear bottom of my plate carrier to be able to grab with both hands

[@SomeShootyGaming]

ASIANS REVIEW THINGS 😂😂😂😂

[@jacobhumphreys493]

Mike, I appreciate your insight. It’s always thought out and has real world application. That unfortunately is a rarity these days on KZbin. Keep spreading your knowledge to the world!

[@ramoncaesar9709]

This is the best video of the history and why own armor. Great work!

[@aol328]

Love the content Mike. I'd like to see a video discussing plates themselves. Whether flat, curved, ceramic, steel or maybe even best to worst brand...etc etc. Keep it coming brother. You're an inspiration to us little, poor, civi guys.

[@dakotawhite4620]

Would love to see you do a full Civilian Truck Loadout video of what you're rolling with nowadays. (Go Bag, Loadout, Equipment, etc.)