Platform overrun! Stockholm's Terrible train operator with Excellent trains | Mälartåg review

Today, I bring you a trip onboard Mälartåg's wonderful ER1 Stadler Kiss trains, which turned into an eventful journey. As we arrived in Vingåker, our train was running too fast and overshot the platform. Join me on this journey as we look into the troubled operator, MTR, and how they handled this situation.
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Train type: ER1 Stadler Kiss
Route: Hallsberg - Stockholm Central
Train: 126
Distance: 196 km
Journey time: 1h38m
Average speed: 120 km/h
Price: 265 SEK ~ 23 €

[@TehPlayer14]

Platform overshooting is literally me first time playing a train simulator game

[@TheRobloxGamerFTS]

real

[@CaptainAdmiralMango]

Guess they forgot to get their Train Simulator training!

[@DeZweedseMachinist]

4:20 The trains are called Stadler Dosto instead of Kiss in Sweden, as the word "kiss" means "urine". 😅

[@VikingCrossings]

The trains are also called ER1 btw.

[@boahneelassmal]

interesting, In Germany it is the kiss, as Dosto is more general for Doppelstockwagen but in most cases refers to the now bombardier ones, which started their evolution in Kombinat Schienenfahrzeugbau in the GDR

[@matsv201]

The kiss and dosto are not quite identical. The dosto have a slightly larger profile on the top floor. Still urine is a fitting name for a train, becuase that is what most stations smell like

[@boahneelassmal]

@@matsv201 that's why i prefer the bombardier dostos.... they are much more comfortable in my eyes... But they have the disadvantage of requiring a loco, while the kiss doesn't and is more space efficient because of it.

[@matsv201]

@@boahneelassmal The Swedish version is larger than both of them due to larger loading gauge. The EMU trains also have higher acceleration and loco trains until recently have had problem with 200km/h service. Its really not until the newest series of loco that loco train can do a solid and reliable 200km/h service. A other issue is that the double decker wagons are pretty heavy. Or rather, they have to be. Because they are so much of a wind catch, there is regulation how heavy they have to be. So putting the electronic in them to make them heavier make sense. Single floor loco trains like the new ICE-L can be incredibly light and there is a better option to be loco pulled. The reason why Mälardalen use double deckers is not the same as for most other places. The system and stations are really old and are designed for trains with only 5 wagons. When demand increased, specially so on the single track parts, there was simply no way to have 5 wagons train with sufficient capacity

[@kriss_b]

That driver is definitely booked in for tea and biscuits

[@acmenipponair]

Why? Because he overshoot a platform in bad weather conditions? Also the rule is: the first breaking is for the driver = when he does the first break of his shift, mistakes like overshooting are forgiven

[@anonymousfuck9320]

Probably coffee and a cinnamon roll

[@jacob1121]

@@acmenipponair It's bad weather over half the year for trains in Sweden, If you can't handle the train half of the time you shouldn't be driving a train.

[@Simon-Andersen]

Probably just for a quick chat, seems like procedures for this kind of mistakes were followed and the train continued with no issues 😁

[@C20F]

@@jacob1121 Don't comment on topics you clearly know fuck all about.

[@drdewott9154]

I mean 23 euros max for a nearly 200km long trip with such a high average speed sounds great by my standards. Especially given how high fixed fares can be in Denmark. Even the discounted ones can often get much more expensive than this.

[@moondaughter1004]

The seats are seriously uncomfy though. But yes they're cheaper compared to SJ. It's more like a long distance commuter train

[@Musta0011]

It is basicly a regional train and you can buy a movingo alla sträckor for about 300 dollars per month were tou can ride all these trains and other ones in mälardalen without any extra cost due to them also not having reservations

[@per-olamjomark7452]

Although I've had generally pleasant experiences on the Mälartåg Stadler KISS trains as an infrequent commuter in the Mälaren Valley, I'm optimistic about the change in operators. MTR losing contracts for Mälartåg, SL commuter trains, and Stockholm Metro opens the door for fresh perspectives and improvements. It's time for new operators to step up and showcase their capabilities. Looking forward to seeing what positive changes lie ahead for commuter services in the region!

[@reinatakagawa]

I mean, this was inevitable when you underbid just to win the contract (and the lowest bid has to be accepted) and then try to cut everything as much as you can to make it break even. But the bidding process encourages exactly that sort of unreasonable behaviours. I think they were talking about, or have changed it, by now, for future changes?

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

I'm travelling with Roslagsbanan daily. Four times the last few weeks the train has overshoot a station, by a long shot. Like it didn't even try to brake. One of the times the conductor told me "this trains has new brakes, apparently they don't work so well". Okeeey... feel safe.

[@ludvigholst4767]

I haven't encountered that myself, lucky me I guess haha

[@moondaughter1004]

I remember riding the subways oldest train. The one that was used for Saltsjöbanan. The driver braked way before the station to not overshoot it. Props on them for managing it since the train was terrible as a subway train

[@MasterRulle]

The clock flashing is an artifact indeed. The power grid operates on a frequency of 50Hz and your camera was probably recording at 60Hz or some other refresh rate other than 50. This offset creates artifacts, or flashing in video feeds. Things such as CCTV/IPTV notice this artifact alot when they are not properly configured.

[@Simon-Andersen]

Ah that totally makes sense, thanks for your comment!

[@rolandbol7350]

2:42 Years ago, when SL was short on rolling stock, I saw a Green Cargo engine draw red passenger coaches on loan from Denmerk. LOL.

[@airnotsofast]

På riktigt

[@airnotsofast]

På riktigt?

[@Brickblock1wastaken]

Ja

[@JamesTrifolium]

@@airnotsofast På riktigt. www.lokman.se/Pendeltag/ovrigt_ptag.htm

[@JamesTrifolium]

@@airnotsofast sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bn_(j%C3%A4rnv%C3%A4gsvagn)

[@reubenab6005]

1:46 interesting seeing Connex there as a Melbourne resident

[@dijikstra8]

They used to operate the Stockholm subway in the early 2000s. They lost the contract a long time ago, and I think they were bought out by TransDev.

[@cdrbvgewvplxsghjuytunurqwfgxvc]

You have a very good sense for interesting details. Like the train companies that didn’t exist anymore.

[@delibakerytravel]

Great Video, The Interior Looks Good, Compared To The Ones Here In The States. Thanks So Much.

[@henrikpettersson2886]

The actuall trains are amazing I agree. Fresh, open and comfortable.

[@trainsofworld]

that is a beautiful train !! 😍

[@truckdriver1982]

I remember when I was a little kid...and came to Hallsberg. It was very hot summer day...and we had to RUN to our connecting train. On that Looooong plattform. And i remeber that it was very dusty/sandy.

[@Simon-Andersen]

Does not seem like fun! Can imagine connections here be frustrating

[@DonaldDuck-jf5jz]

I really enjoy your videos, keep up the good work!

[@Simon-Andersen]

Thanks!

[@Charlizzie]

1:35 Wish I was there to grab those newspapers. 3:15 500 miles. lol

[@RAILEXCELLENCE2011]

That is 800km😊

[@shasy89]

Ah when u said let’s start I Hallsberg I was like ooh maybe I’m driving that train but then when I read it missed a platform I was like nah not me, I missed my last platform 7-8 years ago hahaha

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

2:47 that is the StoraEnso container train between plants in Sweden and Skandiahamnen in Göteborg. They are there transfered to ship towards Zeebrugge. The box is enlarged compared to normal sea containers.

[@Grandez94]

Hello. I've onced lived in Vingåker and went to senior highschool in Hallsberg. And going by train every day. So i'm quite familiar by the stations and railway-track and it brings me so much memories. But at my time Mälartåg wasnt around so we traveled by SJ trains, mainly Rc6 but also X40. The funny thing is; once the train from Hallsberg also overshoot the station in vingåker. But that time the trainoperator wasnt breaking he just kept going, and then they announced in the speakers that hey forgot.. to break.. So the train went to Katrineholm and I did get a busticket for going back to Vingåker 😂

[@Simon-Andersen]

SJ or Mälartåg doesn't matter nobody wants to stop at Vingåker it seems 😆

[@demphanbreman5998]

1:09 Been in Hallsberg for about 3 weeks for education and walked through the waiting room every day. The train station in Hallsberg is a common place for alcoholics to summon and have their meetings And I'm a train driver myself and considering how wet it seems to be I do not blame the driver. Sometimes I can have pretty good grip during rain and sometimes it feels like there's oil on the rails, like in that clip.

[@rolandbol7350]

4:30 Overall it's a very good train, but these retractable steps don't like ... snow. Quite often trains get delayed because they don't retract properly. This can create havoc in the dense timetable around Stockholm.

[@jacob1121]

I'm sure it could be revised and retrofitted with a more robust step with higher leverage that can easily break ice.

[@fresagrus4490]

I work at Norrtåg and I think it is barking mad how in Sweden they buy trains designed for Italy or France with absolutely no regard for snow and winter.

[@Musta0011]

I have had two times were mälartågs motors have a problem so they just stop the train and restart the whole train and then start again

[@enaqleelectric]

What day were you there? I was trainspotting there the 20th. I ride these trains every time im going to a museum railway in which im involved, and ive never had them miss stations... And i also realised ive never used the bathroom on them either.

[@Simon-Andersen]

16th of February

[@michaelhall8586]

I really like that hectorrail train

[@matsv201]

2:44 its worth saying that those are not iso containers, but StoraBox. Those units are absolutely enormous. They are in fact so large so the loading gauge had to be rebuilt to fit them on the train I wouldn´t quite call mälartåg a comuter network. more of a regional train network

[@Rubensgardens.Skogsmuseum]

This must have been rush hour because at 3:50 you could see a couple cars on the bridge and there was a couple people in the waiting room. Have never seen Hallsberg this busy. It actually has one of the most inpressive yards in Sweden and it is explained in a film called ”Där vagnarna rulla.” It is here on youtube.

[@tacticalcuddles3160]

I commute with theese trains about 2-3 weeks a month and i've generally had a positive experience. I agree that the trains are really nice and in the accesible car you can also bring your bike on the train which is a really great feature I use alot. However I should note I commute a much shorter distance(only 2 stations) and on a differnt route so can't speak for everyone else. Also the rush hour trains I take ususally are overcrowded despite the number of seats often leaving people to stand, which to a lesser extabt happens normally as well as people some people dont want to sit next to strangers. Sometimes the trains are also very delayed or cancelled but this seems to be more with the railnetwork overall and sometimes a lack of personell rather.

[@samuelzackrisson8865]

there is a bar that plays jazz. the music school nearby is usually the warmm up number

[@Brickblock1wastaken]

I wouldn't say that the trains serve Stockholm in any substantial way considering there are only 6 stations they stop at within Stockholms län, they also aren't included in SL tickets compared to how they are included in the regional tickets of other PTAs, such as UL, X-Trafik and Östgötatrafiken

[@fredskronk]

Movingo though? Let’s you use both Mälartåg and local public transport such as SL in Stockholm and Örebro Länstrafik in Hallsberg.

[@Brickblock1wastaken]

@@fredskronk movingo is great but it isn't viable for those traveling only once a month or so. Being able to travel on both busses and trains in one ticket is also really convenient as it saves a lot of money over the alternative.

[@Simon-Andersen]

Considering the far majority of their trains run to and from Stockholm they service the primary role of connecting the far surbubs and regional centeres around to Stockholm. But obviously also do more than that 😁

[@fredskronk]

@@Simon-Andersen Not really. They are commuter towns, sure. People do commute from Västerås to Stockholm, as an example. However, Västerås nor Hallsberg are suburbs of Stockholm. It would be like calling Helsingør a suburb of Copenhagen. I assume that people do commute from there to the capital, but it’s its own town.

[@Inkomstkatt]

@@Simon-Andersen Hallsberg is half way to Norway from the east coast. No one in Sweden would consider it in any way related to Stockholm. I suspect the inhabitants would be rather insulted to be called a suburb of the capital. ;)

[@Amego9002]

Did you manage to turn the lamp on 10:34 , always fun to see ppl trying to get them on. Only riding them 1 or 2 a year for 20 min, mutch beter than the old trains the had.

[@Simon-Andersen]

I did, but a bit unintuitive they are. One of the better newer trains out there

[@Newbyte]

Small error in the description: It says "Distance: 196 km/h" instead of "Distance: 196 km".

[@Simon-Andersen]

Fixed, thanks!

[@Musta0011]

When was this recorded?

[@Simon-Andersen]

16th of February

[@timbacchus]

Do you know if the train brakes are air operated or electric?

[@deokletian96]

both. Modern trains typically have five breaking systems. Besides the parking break there are the elecrodynamic break, the direkt air-break system, the indirekt air-break system and the magneticfield-induced frame to rail break-system.

[@moondaughter1004]

Well the emergency brake is definitely electric. When I was on my way to Stockholm the train "crashed". They had to restart it because the emergency brake triggered

[@deokletian96]

@@moondaughter1004 No, not really. Electric breaking stops being effective at low speed. On the other hand the buildup of air-pressure in the breaking system takes a few seconds, the electric breaks can be applied a little bit quicker. In an emergancy you want to come to a full stop as quickly as physically possible. Also you have to put into consideration, that the electric breaks only work, when the circut is closed, so if there is any problem with energy supply, electric breaks are useless. So a modern train will start with electric breaks, as they can be applied slightly quicker and then transition to air-pressure only after a few seconds.

[@timbacchus]

@@moondaughter1004 Wow

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

That train has regenerative braking, a special magnetic rail brake (required to have that to run at 200 km/h in Sweden) and normal disc brakes. The disc brakes can be actuated both through electric signals in the train and between units and in the normal way via the train air line. The regenerative brake is ineffective at low speeds. The 'parking brake' is the normal disc brakes.

[@EliasLarsson-ck6qn]

You should do a review on Skånes Pågatåg, which is a commuter train in southern sweden, the same type of train excist around sweden but this one only runs in southern sweden

[@jarnklonsfiskeochannatgott4377]

I really like Pågatågen except their seats that are way too uncomfortable for a journey around an hour or more like between Helsingborg and Hässleholm and Malmö to Simrishamn but I really love the fact that they stop in almost all villages that have 500 people or more which is very rare for other train companies in Sweden.

[@dijikstra8]

I would say that Mälartåg is more like Öresundståg rather than Pågatåg though, a regional train rather than a commuter train. The Pågatåg equivalent in Stockholm is Pendeltåg which also run the same kind of trains as Pågatåg, although Pendeltåg is more purely a high capacity commuter operation for shorter distances with more doors and no toilets on the trains.

[@fresagrus4490]

Pågatågs train (Alstom Coradia) can be found in many places in Sweden. They are the commuter trains in Stockholm and the regional trains in Uppsala, Norrland and others

[@Simon-Andersen]

Maybe in the future! I'm based in Copenhagen so it's an easy trip

[@nitronic4377]

Excuse me a platform overshoot? I thought such a thing only exists in train simulators O.O

[@Ralphie224]

Ha..............500 miles.....the Proclaimers ...........good one.......🤩🤩....thanks...

[@ManunKanava]

Interesting that a train driver can actually make such a bad mistake as overshooting the station. They should know how to stop, I wouldn't feel safe in these trains.

[@BsBsBock]

I saw then like 2 years ago parking in Hannover

[@TheExileFox]

My only complaint with Mälartåg is that the wall sockets do not accomodate FAT chargers for certain laptops.

[@Roin_robin87]

as someone who always uses these trains to school, its not funny how many lessons i miss, sometimes like 2-3 per day because train after train get cancelled

[@jfmezei]

When the train had to go backwards, did the driver stay in the front and backed the train, or did driver hand to walk across train to the back to drive it backwards? Your "commuter" train is faster than VIA Rail in Canada does Dorval to Ottawa (and thus even faster for Montréal-Ottawa with the slow Montréal to Dorval section) and that is considered an inercity train ! Overshooting stations is not uncommon in Canada during fall when wet leaves cover tracks and brakes are not effective, but the distance beyond platform is nowhere as great as what your train did.

[@rogeriomonteiro760]

There is a switch in the cabin (the inverter), you pull it and the train works perfectly fine backwards as it would go forewards, so the train driver is in the front cabin. In Europe the Intercity trains, as the name refers, stop only at the main stations with a top speed of 100 to 125 MPH. The commuter trains usually do 85 MPH.

[@jfmezei]

@@rogeriomonteiro760 I was thinking more about operating rules when a train is going backwards with the driver still in front with no view of where train is going. Usually requires conductor in the back with radio and very slow speed in north america.

[@vincentandersson5195]

If the driver overruns a platform in Sweden, in an EMU like the ER1, the driver is allowed to reverse one carriage length (25 meters) without changing to the rear cab if you know you won't pass any signals. If you need to reverse further than that, you always need to change to the rear cab.

[@rogeriomonteiro760]

@@jfmezei Those rules aplly only when the locomotive is making manouvers and there is no clear sight, or the train is to be atached to the locomotive, in other cases there are white(pass) and red lights(stop) on the ground near the tracks, that signal the way to take by the driver. In this case, it is a passenger train that overrun the platform, (quite strange, being a frequent passenger I never saw this happenig, the driver is clearly a Rookie). In Europe, as in North America it is clearly forbidden to be on a track ground, so in this case, the driver can go back to the correct spot. However he has to wait to the green light to keep going. Here is an example in Portugal, the conductor is there only to attach and disattach the train. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnrGgX-fqtaMhbcsi=4zW_yhkUU05zUEE6

[@Simon-Andersen]

The driver did walk to the other cab in this case.

[@dennish3614]

MTR are leaving sweden from now, they will have no more train operations in sweden

[@Nowpinion]

They have left Stockholm, but will they leave Sweden all together?

[@OriginalRockCandy]

@@Nowpinion They are technically not gone yet as they still operate the metro but it seems like they are atleast handling that well enough.

[@henning1152]

@@Nowpinion Yes, the Finnish national train operator VR will take over the intercity operations of MTR. And the metro will get a new operator as well

[@ImNotTheImposter1]

When i whent on the mälartåg i didnt experience any issues

[@moggsly5669]

In all fairness these arent the worst. Krösatåg runs trains along the local "Vaggerydsbannan" and have terrible relaibility. Most of the rush hour trains are allways cancelled. And with thier teribble punctuality with 6 min delays more then normal. So i dont think this is that bad.

[@Musta0011]

Ever heard of krösatågen to Västervik

[@Jonsson474]

MTR have lost the contact with Mälartåg from June 2024. The new operator is Transdev.

[@nose10620]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@LemonAid82]

As a swede, I DESPISE mälartåg

[@zenshy2139]

Jag är inte från Sverige.

[@LemonAid82]

@@zenshy2139 okej?

[@FurryCruz]

MTR was kicked of SL I think, so don't think will be new contracts with them here either.

[@fresagrus4490]

The issue isn't MTR itself but this chaotic system of 1000 companies involved with different contracts all the time. Nobody knows who is responsible for what and we are always hostages of the lowest bidder. To make matters worse, the state owned operator SJ is very poorly run. Sweden's train privatisation and deregulation is a catastrophic failure

[@B0nd3n]

@@fresagrus4490 YEAH like they keep telling us we want swedes to use more trains and buses instead of cars but keep taking away bus routes and keep coming late, keep having the same signal failiures and alot of other stuff while at the same time increase the prize for fairs, and they are confused why more and more people stop taking the train/bus and just use the car. and it was really bad like last year where they got this great idea to fire like half the staff and put in cameras instead only to then later get fucked when a strike happend. because before the cameras they had staff check to see if everyone was onboard and everything was okey, but when they put in the cameras the train driver had to check cameras and multiple other stuff.

[@carlmarlid]

Actually Mälartåg is classified as a regional train, however many use them as a commuter train.

[@Simon-Andersen]

It's a bit of both

[@ih7269]

ever since MTR took over Mälartåg, the prices have become very expensive

[@Simon-Andersen]

MTR don't set the prices, that's a product of the traffic agency

[@ravaelrhema7006]

Aku bermain game permainan '' train manager " di ponselku dan aku juga menggunakan kereta ini 😂❤❤

[@marsillinkow]

Me rn as a singaporean: "sweating"

[@zarzavattzarzavatt9309]

why?

[@keahnig164]

What?

[@itznekolive]

i wanna be a lokförare after high school

[@TheExileFox]

9:52 SJ has often promised to wait for a connecting train - How the heck does SJ expect people to switch platform in less than 2 minutes? - because they only waited little over a minute before leaving and this is a way too common occurrence - But if we step back in time to 2013 SJ reversed back into a station after departure to pick somebody up. Unless it was the train conductor this shouldn't be allowed at all because if a normal person asks the train to wait 1 single minute that's denied. It took at least 5 minutes to reverse back into the station and pick this person up and then depart again. And don't even get me started on their scummy refund practices...

[@Aohalm]

Their train drivers seem to be like some Irish bus drivers who forget which bus stops they should stop at 😂

[@Musta0011]

This is the firat time I heard of this

[@Wonampie]

You had to walk that far to platform 4 because you went the wrong way :P

[@BocuD]

Driver didn’t play enough densha de go clearly :)

[@fisk0]

Definitely should've taken the corners through multi-track drifting.

[@juozasuwu4537]

This feels like stepford railways in roblox but irl

[@Musta0011]

If you change it to a class 357

[@vette1]

the Stadler flirts and people deserve better

[@darksars3622]

Terrible train operator with Excellent trains? Now where have I ever heard of that before, hmmmmm? OH wait avanti west coast right

[@mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656]

Please review Spanish trains

[@DanskeCrimeRiderTV]

9:50 why do you also blame Bane Danmark? It would seem it was solely the operator being the problem here.

[@Simon-Andersen]

Because BaneDKs screens was showing the wrong departure time for the train, wrong train number, destination and wrong train company. They are not at fault for the train not stopping but they certainly were at fault for providing faulty information about the train departure.

[@Jonsku124Transit]

Tsw ahh driver 💀

[@winstonpx]

LMAO

[@Pamkalis]

well sometimes it has to happen once

[@fredrikpersson7008]

As a very tall person, I hate these new trains. The "old" black B7s are far more comfortable to ride. X40 is ok, but still not as good as B7.

[@skyde72]

It's sad you didn't catch one of the Romanian-built green cargo locomotives, but great video nonetheless.

[@thegamerguyyt]

as a regular commuter hate thees trains is awfull it evan was soo crowded that the safety system gave out aswell as the brakes too reduced speed 45 kmh thay had to shut down the brakes on a 4 car train in general i get late and no refund and when you pay 90 euros or 890 kr for a monthly ticket and those operations misshaps are far from rear thay are just awfull in everyway.

[@larsfredriksson3108]

Really nice video! Unfortunately, since ER1 lacks tilting equipment it can reach 200 kph only east of Järna. No more than 175 kph on the Western Main LIne between Hallsberg and Järna. On Svealandsbanan and the East Coast Line (both [re]built in the 90s), though, 200 kph is used nearly everywhere.

[@Rodoeht12345]

Train driver here to explain: The overspeed has nothing to do with tilting technology, it has to do with bogie design. The X2 has unique radial bogies that self steers the axles in curves, allowing higher overspeed than regular trains. In fact, the cars can be tilted the wrong way and still be able to run at full speed in the corners, it's just a comfort feature.

[@larsfredriksson3108]

​@@Rodoeht12345​@Rodoeht12345 Without tilting no passenger trains would be using +30% overspeeding since that would be highly uncomfortable. It happens though rarely with single coaches in an X2000 set where tilting may be malfunctioning. Passengers are usually allowed in the coach but I know that at least once serving foods and drinks in that coach has then been cancelled.

[@Rodoeht12345]

@@larsfredriksson3108 Oh, yes, sometimes it happens. Such as when the tilting sensors malfunctions the whole train loses the tilt. Then we ask the passengers, what do you prefer, arrival on time or food and drinks? Usually they prefer the first option. So yes, it's a comfort thing. Then you have the MTRX X74 that has 15% overspeed

[@AFCManUk]

Wow. I wish WE had these, to replace our God Awful CrossCountry Voyagers!

[@MortensMotivation]

Spændende

[@i.m.385]

9:05 wow, reversing isn’t allowed in NL where I drive 😂 you just have to keep going to the next stop.. and receive some angry comments from your passengers

[@Simon-Andersen]

I guess it depends on a few factors, policies and stuff like the signaling system

[@five-o5362]

@@Simon-Andersen yeah, "a few factors" like the basics of how to safely run a railway. PMSL.

[@paulteelen4285]

However I saw one time a train coming in at the station of Bergen op Zoom on a wrong track (without platform). Driving slow and I saw the driver busy communicating. The train drove past the station and I was curious what should happen next. After a few minutes the train was coming back to the platform it should have stopped. So in this case the driver was allowed to reverse.

[@i.m.385]

@@paulteelen4285 it’s not a reverse, it’s a planned charging of ends. Reversing is never allowed period

[@paulteelen4285]

@@i.m.385 how could this be planned? The train to Vlissingen coming in on track (30)1 without platform, stopping 1 km past the station, returning on track (30)2 to let passengers enter/exit and again reverse in the direction of Vlissingen? With up to 15 minutes of delay?

[@kattn01]

2:04 welcome to Al-Sviden

[@CityConnectionsMedia]

In regards to 9:00, that's not really a small operational mistake. I don't know the specifics/rules for operating in Sweden, but if that happened in Australia it'd be quite a serious issue. Since it indicates the driver wasn't paying attention, or isn't up to date with their route knowledge, and depending on which, here they'd either go back into training or lose their job. It's also not super common, I've never seen something like that happen in all the years I've been riding trains.

[@Timmi9303]

In Sweden the rules somewhat simplified are that as long as you don't move further than one car length (about 25 meters) past the platform in a multiple unit train you are free to reverse as long as you don't pass any signal in either direction. If this is the case you don't need to have vision in the direction of travel (backwards). If its further than that you must get permission from the dispatcher and you also need to see in the direction of travel. The main focus here is the signals, since the system is built up in a way that expects trains to travel in one direction there are no real risks unless someone goes backwards. I have gone past platforms both due to inexperience while in training and most of the times because of slippery tracks. Also knowing where you are while driving 200km/h and only seeing around 50 meters increases the chances of you being unable to know where you are. The signalling system and in cab signalling system allows us to travel at full speed as long as all the systems are working despite not seeing anything at all. Besides the walk of shame inside the train to do the reversing there are no further issues. If you do it often enough you get extra training with an instructor to make sure you know your lines and trains.

[@jacob1121]

@@Timmi9303 Isn't there GPS so the driver can see speed limits and distance to next stop?

[@Simon-Andersen]

Timmi summed it up quite well. It's not a common occurrence by any means but it happens often enough that there are procedures in place for it, best thing to do is just to follow them and move on 😃

[@five-o5362]

@@Timmi9303 that's fkin shocking, I don't know any civilised country that would consider overshooting the platform by as much as can be seen here as "normal", because it's not. Seeing around 50 meters at 200kph doesn't mean much, since the signals and distances between them should be set so that you should come to a complete halt from max line speed before you reach the red (danger) signal or the end of platform (based on route knowledge which each driver should have otherwise they are unfit to drive).

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

@@five-o5362 If you drive the line regularly you will learn when to apply the brakes for the platforms. There is usually no help from the signalling system ie ATC with correctly estimating braking in towards a platform (except if there is signals at the end of the platform with a restrictive aspect.

[@Ackeblack123]

You don’t have to hate on the whole company becous of one driver becous it was only the driver that was bad

[@Simon-Andersen]

Did you even watch the video lol. There is about 5 articles included pointing to just why their operator MTR is failing and their contract was cut short. If that's not a terrible record I don't know how else to describe it. I even mention in the video that the driver overrun was a simple mistake that they handled quite well, that was not the reason for calling them terrible at all 🤣

[@Ackeblack123]

@@Simon-Andersen I know

[@LeoErba]

The worst part about Mälartågen is that everyone, even if it’s packed with passengers occupies the seat next to them. Doesn’t matter if there is overhead bins or special luggage compartment. They always put their backpack or other stuff .

[@adiq6360]

can't you say something to them? lol. I know it's Sweden, but come on!

[@Simon-Andersen]

Hardly a fault of the train or operator tho :p

[@Wonampie]

That has nothing to do with Mälartåg and everything to do with the passengers.

[@JamesTrifolium]

No matter the consist or rolling stock, MTR's drivers handle their trains like they're hauling freight. Rough and with no regard for comfort. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they just dragged metro train drivers out from the tunnels and plopped them down in the drivers' seats of the ER1s with no extra training.

[@C20F]

That would be how you'd destroy couplers with freight so that isn't true.

[@HenkeNYZF]

How you can over shoot a platform like that, driving a commuter train that frequently stops there is beyond me. Specially knowing its 80km/h through Vingåker.

[@Simon-Andersen]

No idea, but these things happens from time to time, probably just a driver being distracted by something

[@five-o5362]

@@Simon-Andersen socialism.

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

No , U (uppspår) in Vingåker has a max speed of 190 km/h (with speed curve addition) 150 km/h with '0' in ATC.

[@HenkeNYZF]

@@TheStefanskoglund1 Havnt been going through in a couple of months, but im pretty sure the temporary speed downgrade is still there.

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

Ok this was from the linjeboken - don't have access to dagorder.

[@chosig]

The problems is that the trains isn't built for the Swedish conditions, sure you can do adaptations, but it's not as good as if they were built with this in mind. Winter is particularly annoying, frozen brakes, doors, lack of heating etc etc. can make it annoying with a lot of delays

[@markusstudeli2997]

Stadler is used to building trains for cold conditions, having built the RHB trains operating in the high alps, for example (see Bernina Express). They also operate trains in Russia, Finland, Canada and Norway for decades now.

[@tha_tram_man]

it servs a line and since the line takes 2 houers the seats sucks. but for shorter junnies lit is good

[@Newbyte]

I don't think the seats are that bad. I did a five hour journey exclusively with Mälartåg once (including two transfers then) and I felt comfortable throughout the entire trip.

[@Simon-Andersen]

I think the seats are fine for about 2 hours. Good balance between density and comfort

[@markvogel5872]

It's cool I do this on train simulator all the time...now this driver won't get a gold rating. Why would they be shocked that a Chinese company is running things poorly?

[@RKMa64]

Great trains and a bad Company running them. The tickets are a bit pricey for my wallet 😎🇸🇪

[@Ackeblack123]

DON’T call them TERRIBLE

[@deez8202]

Mälartåg är gay SJ 4 EVER

[@henning1152]

bästa youtubekommentaren jag någonsin skådat

[@Musta0011]

SANT

[@norrasmedjegatan]

Mälartåg 🙄