Platinum End: A Meaningless End?

After reading 2 hit series in Death Note and Bakuman from artist writer duo Tsugumi Ohba and Takeshi Obata, I go over their next series Platinum End and my overall thoughts as the anime adaptation comes this fall.
What did you think about the ending of Platinum End: meaningless or well deserved?
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[@angel-hf4xi]

First half: Cool angels🔥, Hero dad🔥 , power rangers🔥 Second half: boohoo god not real🥺, kid with depression 🥺, Thanos snapped 🥺

[@REMCreates]

Short, sweet, and to the point 😭

[@brimward122]

I remember reading somewhere that explained Nakaumi's suicide as god was to show how suicide can affect others even when you think it won't. Wasn't the most satisfying or well executed end but I don't think the message was life has no meaning, but the importance of giving life meaning.

[@QBFOJustin]

good interpretation. That does help that otherwise horrific ending. Nice!

[@redxblood85]

One of my best friends committed suicide years ago, to this day his family has never recovered and our friend group still thinks about it.

[@blackholealchemist9493]

Life do has a meaning. Existence is meaningless, considering how humanity is destroying itself. I guess author wanted to highlight this theme

[@eile4219]

Surprising Good ending to me. I didn't expect it to end like that.

[@Windyielder]

That's a pretty good way to interpret it.

[@01solace39]

First part was brilliant, although we never see the resolution of some characters stories. Overall I felt it was great but very flawed, there were only a handful of interesting characters, and you can only go so far when your "final battle" is just a big debate with some hostages thrown in. Also I'm pretty sure it was explained why Nasse was special, she existed before God as the first microorganism to exist on Earth, and when she attached herself to God he cut that piece off and it became Nasse. Considering the fact the "Aliens" said "Is it worth planting another Seed? Another God?" Its possible that Nasse was the seed.

[@solsclone3399]

it's death note all over again just new themes

[@natman2939]

And the aliens revelation in general just proves that it never mattered who came first (man or God) because there would also be a “okay but who created that?” Which even these divine aliens couldn’t figure out. So cherish life; but it can only be cherished if it ends

[@micah5362]

Honestly speaking i dont personally think the ending of Platinum End was meaningless, its only meaningless if youre not looking from a bigger picture, for instance each god canidate lost all hope in life and the angels came to give them hope of becoming god. In other words the angels and god themselves are hope for people to keep living, meanwhile you have the angel of destruction muni who wants the end and wants them to lose all hope in god and heaven itself which she herself in other words is basically depression, she chose yoneda beacuse she knew he can make humanitly lose all hope in god and heaven and bring a end to hope itself (god and heaven) which was basically killing (the creature) which in so if he succeded in doing so humanity would have ended why keep reading. So now as you can see god as hope, muni as depression, in the end of platinum end it displays how when nakaumi peaks into the world and sees all the people who want to kill themselves he wants to save them all instead of helping them kill themselves because he thought it would be best for humanity, after asking god who he is currently fusing with, what his job is and he says its just to watch over humans and do nothing, he then distracts the angels kills himself as god which is also known as hope, as hope is dead everyone slowly starts vanishing why you ask? because in a world with no will to live no hope for anything we would cease to exist, now nakaumi thought killing himself as god was the correct decision because god did nothing at all and as yoneda said (the creature) was not needed but he was very wrong god didnt have to do anything, he was needed in every way, Shuji Nakaumi never ever intended to end humanity. He believed the death of God will make no difference, just like how a suicidal person thinks his death will make no difference to the world around him. Suicidal people often think their lifes are insignificant, and so their deaths won't really matter. Most of them fail to see what havocs their death can cause to their close ones, just like how Shuji failed to see how his death will effect the human world, and he will never realise how wrong he was.. So With no God (hope/will) the lives all around the world ended. The Meaning: Depression saps the hope/will to live and often results in suicide. Hopefully that wasnt too long lmao

[@pranshushivhare6146]

One of the best explanations I ever found Very much thanks

[@willbebelly]

Perfect explanation my guy, have to save this to tell happy ending seeking 2-brain cellers why this is good writing and not bullshit 👍

[@zzzerefu]

Underrated comment.

[@bluwulf]

Great explanation thank you

[@punu3675]

Yeah it was truly great writing

[@pedromax113]

I think that the ending is just the ultimate critic against suicide. All the bad and all the good doesn't exist anymore after god kills himself, which is what happens when a person kills themselves, everything disappears, all the possibilities, all the good and all the bad, there is just nothing. A meaningless void.

[@darkwolts]

they probably wanted to end the manga because it wasn't popular, so they rushed it

[@natman2939]

Except that message is sort of contradicted by the mysterious aliens being like “we are jealous. We want death. Death makes life burn brighter.”

[@Ribcut]

@@natman2939 Exactly. I've commented like 3 times on this video because people are ignoring what you just said, and it's driving me insane. It blows my mind how someone wants to have a discussion on a topic and completely leaves out all relevant information. There's no point in having or voicing your opinion on the ending, when these people ignored or fell asleep during half the ending.

[@vivinmosese9600]

😲 wow

[@bloodyidit4506]

@@natman2939 The ending proves them wrong. It's a critique on the idea of "death" being a good thing, the argument being "no".

[@leonardmintzel1253]

My God i just finished platinum end and i feel like i want to punch the author for that ending.

[@Snzn_7]

I like the ending oh. But yeah its definitely a not feel good type of ending. And its funny how the title basically implied the ending the whole time.

[@zakijhay9988]

an ending we do not expect.. got mixed feelings , I couldn't like it , also couldn't hate it .. really , just a confusing end.

[@grayzo16]

I hate this ending, I feel like punching him to but oh well.

[@makotoshin9502]

Yeah I think the author have sad childhood since he created this anime

[@buyucuserefsiz2199]

@@makotoshin9502 AYWD8YGAWDHAWDHAWDHAWODHIAWPDJW

[@SaintxHelios]

Honestly I feel like Platinum end could have gone out better instead of a rushed ending. As someone who had hopes for the anime having a different ending compared to the disappointing ending that all the manga readers kept preparing us for, Metropoliman felt like a final villain that should have been there until the end and what ruined his character was the fact that he died so early on and him being red arrowed by Susumu. Yoneda was a decent character but he didn't have as much of a drive for the plot compared to the first antagonist, he was willing to give up so soon. Also I think it's kinda odd how god's body isn't immortal and still can die, especially after letting a suicidal boy to position as a new god. I can see plenty of reasons why people are upset with the ending, my reason would be Mukaido's family getting killed off after his hard effort of putting down the evilest of evil for the sake of his family just to have them get erased along with all of the cast because Nakaumi wanted to send a message.

[@BetterKeepCalmOfficial]

Not a rushed ending. You missed the hidden meaning behind it

[@mackncheese1683]

@@BetterKeepCalmOfficial There is also a hidden meaning behind why shit smells, but nobody cares why. They just smell it and move on.

[@BetterKeepCalmOfficial]

@@mackncheese1683 LMFAO

[@レスター-k7n]

Yeah all the fighting and effort makes no sense and letting a 12 year old be a god is ultimately dumb even though they all know that boy is suicidal

[@DoomPredictions]

Why bad endings are so common in manga? Are we the readers too demanding (maybe even toxic)?

[@buyucuserefsiz2199]

it's tsugumi oba

[@thaearthquake]

Nah I remember since I started reading manga bout 15 years ago, it’s easy to find a story with a great beginning or interesting premise but finding one that keeps the momentum all throughout and delivers on an ending is actually uncommon and what separates the great stories from the ok ones.

[@royal8794]

As an anime only who just watched the ending of it today I can say with full confidence you were right. The end is extremely disappointing and it makes me feel like I just wasted my time on the anime. Every thing we watched the cast of characters go through just amounts to nothing and just leaves me asking why.

[@REMCreates]

A very nihilistic end for a nihilistic show indeed

[@pacoag99]

I don’t thing that the idea of everyone dying was bad, they don’t always need to have a happy ending. The execution of it was the problem in my opinion, and obviously felt even weirder in the anime since they have less time. The author Is better than average, but honestly death note was the “irregularity”in his work, both platinum end and Bakuman have a lot of flaws.

[@vain_x]

How exactly would you have ended the final episode?

[@chinemeremohaeri9100]

@@vain_x You're moving too fast friend. You're acting like there aren't any other options to the ending.

[@pacoag99]

@@vain_x with the same idea, everybody dying, just justifying it throughout the story and not giving just 1 episode to that, perhaps 2 (or 3)would have been better, giving more screen time to the character that become god (I can’t remember his name rn)

[@nothingyeteverything6081]

When i read this ending i thought to myself "wow im really excited for the next arc" i had questions like where did they go? What was yoneda answer? Only to find out everything is gone ive never been so dissapointed in an ending in my life. The second part of the story after the main villain was defeated was amazing tho.

[@REMCreates]

I personally enjoyed the first half better, but the second half was just built different haha

[@Entrejai]

Everything repeats again they recreate heaven then loop I think

[@alfredhernandez82]

For me, Yoneda answer is probably "what humanity would be in the next 300 to 500 years". Although "they" were not time travellers, "they" were from another planet and a species that were faster in terms of development in science, and "they" reached immortality and now yearns for death and is planting seeds and create a god to create a species that in hope that would kill "them".

[@terryhachi]

Some people keeps forgetting this manga is not about fighting,is about the beautiful of living and don't commit suicide. Because if Nasse didn't save Mirai,he wouldn't have those happy years with saki,that's why he wasn't scared about being vanished. And for those who commit suicide,they might not causing the whole world vanished,but for their family/friends/lover,something does vanished,they just exaggerated it with the ending.

[@terryhachi]

Btw I like how they end the manga with the way they want,not dragging the story and end with the way readers expected,just like that black and white devil story in Bakuman.

[@Ribcut]

I'm sorry but it wasn't about suicide. They put a huge emphasis on the fact the entire story that took place in Platinum End had almost no relevance and didn't matter at all. Your interpretation involves completely ignoring the dialogue at the end. I'm not sure why some people do this.

[@Entrejai]

@@Ribcut hes actually right tho

[@Ribcut]

@@Entrejai and you actually didn't watch the ending. They specifically included a dialogue that made the entire event of Platinum End seem LESS relevant, and almost entirely irrelevant. This is not the technique of someone trying to send a message against suicide. It even explained these advanced life forms were highly jealous of the fact they could commit suicide. I don't understand this smooth brain take you guys have.

[@Ribcut]

@@Entrejai The humans in Platinum End are considered dirt. Their lives are entirely insignificant. The writer obviously showed favoritism to professor Yoneda, and he was the closest God candidate to actually figure out what was happening. That "God" was seeded by higher life forms, and entirely fabricated. They were seeking a means to end their own lives by simulating another reality, hoping a life form would discover a means to their end. These life forms were the organisms Yoneda was talking about, who would solve all technological problems and achieve immortality. Now they are jealous of individuals who CAN commit suicide. This is not some deep interpretation and is very straight forward if you took 15 seconds to actually read the ending instead of shutting off your brain the moment Nakaumi ended his life.

[@kamm3021]

That's an outside the box ending that many people will not forget All respect to the writer and the artist A real PLATINUM END

[@khadeerdudekula7168]

Hay bro did this manga ended?

[@blackholealchemist9493]

@@khadeerdudekula7168 yes

[@iluz1eiluzie370]

I actually enjoyed the ending but how does this channel have so little subs and views, this is actually good quality content

[@REMCreates]

Thanks so much! Trying my best haha

[@iluz1eiluzie370]

@@REMCreates Don t stop one they you will get sonewhere you wouldn t imagine you could ! Mark my words :3

[@TheUnchosenOne]

Yeah you hit it tbh. The ending was a miss here.

[@memebrain2177]

It started with suicide and ended with suicide it's poetic

[@BusyCapybara]

Universal Suicide

[@jayvirgz2998]

Kira becomes the main protagonist while Near is the Antagonist 😁😁😁

[@acronyx991]

I don't see how Mirais Angel died. Wasn't she there before the god even went to earth? Meaning she shouldn't have been erased by his power since he didn't create her.

[@REMCreates]

That’s a rlly good observation, I never thought about that, a lot of loose ends with nasse

[@zakijhay9988]

I was expecting more of Nasse because of that explanation. Like her being special rank with more special features than the other 2 special angels. Dunno if I'm dissapointed or not. I kinda find the ending lacking.

[@jbarral6509]

Yeah it leaves the question why is Nasse Special

[@natman2939]

She was there as a tiny micro life but not a conscious being so Nasse as we know her was still erased

[@SneezyKeegz]

@@natman2939 Exactly what I was gonna say. Hell she might be the last living thing on earth just not as an angel.

[@LoneLionLeo]

This ending shook me. I quickly understood the mean of it: it’s one of those endings that once you understand its depth, it will stay with you long after

[@cnnhean]

You mean it's one of those endings with nihilistic view of life that once you buy into it, it scar you. It's a retarded ending, like the donkey and the carrot the creator drags viewers by the great potential only to shove some stupid nihilistic views.

[@natman2939]

And what do you think that meaning is?

[@davidrinke8330]

yeah explanation pls

[@toxicxhazard]

I think what he means is that your existence in this reality is most likely your one shot; if you kill yourself then the window shuts, and the curtains close. Realistically, from the lens you inhabit regarding this flesh suit that you are in, killing yourself and your death isn't too much different than all other's disappearing instantly. In the same way you are required to have faith in God, you also need faith that this reality will persist past your little window of time with which you get to experience it. Might there be something else afterward? Maybe, but I highly doubt that we'll be able to discern that experience from this one; or perhaps there is an ebb and flow beyond this which determines what happens. Certainly if there was and we could perceive it, this current life we experience would have markers of the other realities we may have experienced; maybe it still does, but if so we clearly can't completely identify them with our sensory toolkit provided. That all being said, I think Platinum End is like, alright. It's not really too great, doesn't really speak to the human condition, and in regards to existentialism I don't really think it's too provocative. The storylines are pretty mediocre, the characters lack substantial depth, and the resolution, ironically like the final antagonist, doesn't really speak to the viewer on a human level. In my opinion, reality isn't about the beginning, end, or an answer; it's about the experience and flowing with it. Whichever way you come to that truth, is completely dependent on your own conscious experience, which we have only a very basic binary understanding of in our current predicament.

[@yato_papxios]

You're right. I just watched the final episode and I gotta say this story was like an idea that was trying to be simplistic (action between a good hearted protagonist that wants to find happiness for the whole world and an evil antagonist that doesn't care about the rest of the candidates or the innocent and is just trying to accomplish his personal desires in the first half) and at the same time complex (with the good hearted main character maturing a little but still stands up for his "everyone deserves to be happy" belief and the antagonist trying to prove his points about life to the people in the second half) since the story took down the path from action to philosophical debate between the characters, just like you said, I wish it had deep meanings of perspective to it. Just like actual philosophers debating. To me it seemed like I was watching feelings vs logic, heart vs brain, nothing more to it. And my bigger issue with that is the fact that there can be no person like Mirai who is all about feelings and at the same time there can be no person like Yoneda either who is all about logic and that makes unrealistic, what is supposed to be a real life message. Two absolute sides. At least since we had more than two characters left I wish we had more perspectives but they were divided into 2 teams. It sure has lots of messages like: death is unavoidable but life is meaningless without it, we should be grateful for our lifes, death can impact the living world, but still so much wasted potential imo :/ (sorry about my English I wish it's understandable)

[@malekith13]

In short, don't give to much power to a suicidal 13 years old especialy when he's influenced by a suicidal nihilist old man lol We can see that manga has indeed been made by the sames guys that made death note, a crasy good first half, a second "meh" half and a weird end, theses two should make shorter stories sinces they are so good at starting them ^^

[@manuelrossano2297]

I enjoyed more the second part of the story, because it's really intresting to listen the ideas of the characters. The ending was pretty stranger and disappointing, but after a lot of thinking I found out that the whole manga was about the life and death, the happiness and the humans. It's a really intresting manga and the meaning it's pretty hided, but great.

[@manuelrossano2297]

And the drawings are epic

[@cizin8685]

does mirai stay the same in terms of his base personality since he only wants happiness, doesnt want to hate etc or he does change to become someone who does kill if necessary

[@manuelrossano2297]

@@cizin8685 he just doesn’t kill

[@SenseiAgot]

@@manuelrossano2297 he was willing to kill the professor in the end, until Saki was in danger. But afterwards he decided to stick to his guns and not kill.

[@LoneLionLeo]

The hint is at the montage of asking people what they thought happiness was. Some very mundane answers. It’s almost like life has no true meaning. We give it meaning.

[@karelknightmare6712]

I guess in this story, consciousness and deity are entangled phenomenons, as subjective as meaningless. Consciousness "artificially" creates meaning; implies life and death, love and hatred, but in the end, nothing has sense. It's all illusion, the crowded scenes in Shibuya show that, everyone is in his own narrative, sharing stories online without having critical thinking about the "non-sense" of existence. I think it's not that Mirai has no character development, he becomes like a "buddha" and reaches his fulfillment. On the other side, Professor Yoneda recklessly seeks meaning where there isn't. There is no purpose, no end to our existence. Just a sequence of experiences, just to be taken as it is. It's the "insoutenable légèreté de l'être".

[@lils8005]

it really is meaningless. Simple as that. No purpose.

[@ramipro8309]

I am half satisfied with my anime but I give a good kind philosophy my English is kinda bad

[@KhaosWolf]

I really believed that the Platinum End story could become a masterpiece with the first half of the manga. For me, the manga had two pillars to be followed: 1 - Mirai's anti-murder ideology 2- The concept of happiness being established by each character. Unfortunately, the authors threw this a lot aside, there could have been many climaxes to put Mirai in situations of killing or dying. Or an end that the concept of "happiness" of each of the characters were established. I was very afraid of the manga becoming one of those with time travel where everything is resolved with this (like Mahou shoujo site) and the best solution I had seen was Mirai becoming God and creating a copy of it on earth that "he" could live with Saki and be happy and make the whole world happy but unfortunately the ending presented was not about the protagonist but about nihilism. I expected a "platinum" ending as the manga itself has its name, but unfortunately it is like a bad ending. Perhaps the story of this manga could be turned into a game like those where you have a different ending depending on your actions but unfortunately, with the unpopularity, I think we will never hope for Platinum End.

[@REMCreates]

Couldn't agree more, the premise had so much potential, but due to its unpopularity, external forces probably prevented the development of the initial themes and instead rushed the ending :(

[@buyucuserefsiz2199]

@@REMCreates could there be a anime original ending?

[@REMCreates]

@@buyucuserefsiz2199 remains to be seen!

[@aliciapituquinha6289]

Platinum ends for me give the same vibes as the manga they created inside bakuman i thing the names its reverse

[@narutotff109]

You were absolutely right felt like a waste, no answers no real cathartic ending. Just a whole bunch of philosophy meant to make it seem smart.

[@kevinpineda8695]

After watching the ending, I felt disappointed. I actually liked the story prior to the ending. There was so much that could have been done to make this series so good but it just chose to end with the simulation route. I felt like my excitement to know what was going to happen next in this story was killed and wasted. In some ways that’s kind of what this is trying to do. At the end, it was a failed simulation that was setup by some Higher Beings to find death. To me it didn’t really seem like it was trying to go for an impactful and tragic ending, but more like a lazy attempt to try to put a bunch of philosophical ideas at the last minute and hoping to make an impact. I never saw this coming. I know this anime was not for everyone, but that ending definitely ruined it for me.

[@alexander519pgo]

true, the simulation route is the nearest to explain the end, but it was too rushed that is hard to catch it, Yoneda was re representation of the big and dense speech the manga on what is humankind, divineness, life and reality. but poorly developed and was forced to explained it in the last chapter. in my opinion it was too much ideas too hard to explain, and too much deus ex for trying to get running the plot on the way they wanted. still i admire them for bringing concepts like nihilism and religion this time

[@kevinpineda8695]

@@alexander519pgo Yeah, the topics that were brought at the end were very interesting. I spent too much time thinking about them, it was just too rushed and needed more work. Loved Mirai and Saki’s acceptance of their fate and the happiness they found in it, though. Probably the best part of the ending to me.

[@Ushi_archive]

Underrated channel

[@badwolf8112]

The anime explains why nasse is different. Previous God discovered her in some protoform of her and she enters his body. He then removes her from it and hopes her interaction with it will make her follow his will. Kinda mysterious

[@bennefib]

the ending to platinum end can happen to us at anytime, within infinite amount of ways and only up until that point, humans will want better then what they've made for themselves, i love the ending because in anime in general consequences are minimal and full of passion and love when that could be how we live right now and simply choose other options, never questioning how our actions could effect others the pandemic could been alot of worse but the second it was told as not? back to bullshit, but before that it was dog eat dog, kill or be killed, resources segregated, legit the possibility that ONE person could of completely crimple our civilization and somehow people hate the ending like people in power, people with money, power with influence could very well make these decision's every single day is laughable, we came into 2020 with WW3, the ice capes melting, Australia on fire and a virus and nobody gives a shit about it as much now,. that should tell you that the ending to platinum end aligns more with the real world and people hate it, even though its clear that we will be our on undoing.

[@bennefib]

its so funny that we live in a agnostic, religion devoided society , sex and drugs and violence rule over us and the manga that perfectly illustrates and those very people ar elike " wow that shit was trash " like no humans are trash

[@grayzo16]

Jesus Christ it’s not that deep, people can hate or like what they want. It’s just a book. That ending is not going to happen to us no doubt lmao.

[@Eyes-Scream0213]

I just read the ending and have mixed feelings about it. To be honest I really like the ending because there's a possibility that we are all non existent to begin with. It reminds me of End of Evangelion somehow but this one is kind of twisted. But there's still something that was unanswered here and that's Nasse. Is she really something special? For me I think there's still a true God right there but humans are unable to know who or what is it and Nasse somehow knows it. I saw some people said that Ohba and Obata don't really like the fact that the manga will be cancelled. They were actually pissed off and want to end everything so that's why they erased everyone. The irony is they are the one who created the manga so literally they are the gods who created life on that manga and the rightful one to decide on how to end it.

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

you exist, what kind of stupid conclusion is that one? do you doubt that you doubt? that's why Descartes wrote his books, now if you thing that a certain point you will stop existing and therefore that does not exist because time is too long once again your life is all you have so no one can deny your existence even killing yourself is stopping the already existent condition.

[@animelegend01]

Dont ever debate if egg came first or the chicken because in the pursuit of answer the world will end like this .😂

[@Wiklina616]

I think this manga suffers from either baggage or execution. Fans of Death Note wanted something similar. And we're more or less satisfied with first part. Real question is are the authors always wanted to create something similar and just decided to focus on philosophy in second half? Or is first part an elaborate ruse trying to lull readers into a false sense of expectations?

[@Snzn_7]

They are basically showcasing their writing style and what new grounds they would like to explore. Its like don't expect NiSioiSiN to not write dialougue like NiSioiSiN. But basically the title "if you try yo decipher it" is what the story is essentially aiming for. I'm a fan of both Death Note and Bakuman. And I'm proud they pulled of Platinum End and stick to what they wanted to do, even if by default that this worl will be very polarizing.

[@eile4219]

They never write thw same type of story on their manga. Why are people expecting something like death note? Hikaru No Go. Death Note, Bakuman, Platinum End are different type of story.

[@jbarral6509]

I find the ending somewhat disappointing bc if there were to be another God who would create humanity the cycle will be reignited again.

[@arvindkumarpareek3447]

I personally like the ending ( the series as well ) and believe it or not , your opinion was heavily influenced by how series has been treated around

[@theremakers.]

I don't know Every time great manga writers become old, instead of showing more wisdom producing more powerful plot They prefer to produce $hit

[@trickycommenter9460]

I am coming from the anime not the manga. I think platinum end was a great series, the music was amazing, whoever was in charge of the music made perfect choices I think it's inseparable thing from the series. The art most of the times were awesome as well at least in the important scenes the art were gold. The plot was very interesting and good i loved almost everything even a character with such small screen time like Hajime, I think the falling of the series is starting from the last fight in the stadium, it was so dumb how they were captured like they forgot how to use their wings and also like u said the ending wasn't dumb but really disappointing like we don't get to understand Nasse although it was hyped all over the series because except for the end Nasse were the most useless angel. Anyway i think the anime is definitely worth watching i don't regret watching it, it's just the end is so broken...

[@youngaspect1602]

i am dissapointed in the ending

[@BlackTeaShirt]

Everything was so good until metropoliman died The decisions made by the charecter had a drastic shift I was thoroughly dissapointed and hoped for a season 2 but question i had was what would they put in it?

[@skelemid5294]

I think in my concept should be a different main character that he is an atheist scientist who finding a proof that there is no God. Then suddenly a prediction in his dream happened to be the destroyed cause the choosen one kys. He start to become religious and finding what God truthly is. Then our OG protag meets the new protag telling that he's a God candidate. He start realize that not just him but also everyone of the people are God candidate so his plan was to ruin the game and face off the God to contradict the evidence to prove that the God is false.

[@blackholealchemist9493]

The ending was extremely philosophical and beautiful. I can understand the reason why many people got disappointed with it, because it may have hurt their religious feelings or either they are extreme atheists( or ignorants) or simply shonen watchers But here's what i interpreted out. The ending showed that God is a creature, or just an energy, or maybe an intelligent being who created the entity called 'humans'. But the thing is, we humans started clinging to God for our own benefits. Inequality, hatred , injustice, humanity's truth is ultimately this. But still millions of the same humans worship God and aspire for paradise(heaven). There was a line where Yoneda says " Gods are just phenomenon we created in minds", and it's true. We fantasize God in everything, thinking he has time to benefit all of us humans individually. We aspire for paradise but we can't create paradise here on earth. We think God will do everything for us and ultimately truth is God does nothing. It is us humans after all who can change this world into a paradise. These religious gods are just fanstasized entities who we humans use as a medium to escape from our own harsh truth . That's why its said, God does nothing. It created us and it's only there to destroy us. Rest all are our own responsibility. It's us who need to change and make this world a heaven. That's why Shuji disappeared because God does nothing, but is only there. And in the course, all humans are destroyed Ultimately the ending was extremely nihilistic and beautiful in many ways. It was a rant on a major flaw of humanity to think God will do all good deeds and not us. That's why Mirai was made to think about everyone's happiness. Eventually, all humans need to be like this Plus the ending somehow showed the meaning of life

[@SpectreMkTwo]

Bad story telling is bad story telling..I appreciate the symbolism and it's ultimately what kept me on the show. As a concept I prefer the philosophical discussions on the 2nd half but as a show that entertains and makes you think, they should have kept up with the themes of the 1st half more. Now the ending. I'm ok with the ending of God killing himself as it's our fault for entrusting everything to God. I agree with gods only purpose being the create us and ultimately us to figure out what to do with the life being said, assuming people will hate this ending, which personally I don't hate, I just think the execution left alot to be desires especially with the plotholes. I believe it's pompous to believe people will hate this ending because of their religious beliefs. I disagree with that view, I believe despite your religious views, a badly executed ending is a badly executed ending and one's religious beliefs don't make you blind to this fact. I like the concept of the ending, not the execution, and the mass disappearance of humanity personally has no explanation behind it so. Platinums End, Good Ideas, Amazing art. Great sound effects for the anime. Alot of potential here but the execution was bad at times and good at others. Would I recommend no, overall it's 6/10 because I want to like it more. It's just overly mediocre which I find worst than a 9/10 or a 3/10. I'm more disappointed in the production of the story vs the story itself. It's alot like when you cook popcorn for too long but without burning it

[@romenpal-m6f]

You just portrayed my feelings about this anime in words at first I started watching this anime as shonen but after kanade arc I realised its true going wished the series was a bit longer like 2 seasons dedicated to each antagonists

[@SpectreMkTwo]

@@romenpal-m6f yes, also this series is a seinen so expectations should have been different. I think this show killed off metropoliceman too quick and they had god candidates that easily agreed with one another. The first ones were degenerates but the other half were misguided. It would have been better to have see the god candidates reflect negative aspects about humanity since the show wanted to go on the philosophical part. Also the kid with the trump mask was probably the worst character on this show, he was more of a plot device than a human. Also the woman who wanted to keep her red arrow, probably the most believable character in the show other than the professor.

[@RwanLink]

i think the opposite like Metropolitain character was really bad but I love the second half way better with the scientist

[@juhara_cosplay]

What if professor is ryuk 🤣

[@REMCreates]

He would need more apples :)

[@QBFOJustin]

They really screwed up killing Metropoliman. I think, overall, out of all the numerous things wrong with this manga, is was when they killed Metropoliman that was the biggest misstep. And I see a lot of ppl saying "It's not supposed to be about the action scenes" "it's not supposed to be a happy ending." That's not what the problem was. I love philosophical discource. That's why I read Death Note. I don't care about happy endings. Thats why I hated the ending of FMAB. But this ending just wasn't it, and the story itself flopped many times over. That said, I enjoyed the read.

[@leliel12th43]

Nasse seems to be ironic in the anime when she says something along the line "..so I should also died, because I'm just an angel too [ 😉]. That made me think that not only she was something that existed before the creating of the creature but maybe part of the parts of heaven [or outside heaven] where the real supreme beings exist. I could be reading too much but it seems to me that there's a level above where the creature/god existed.

[@Tawnyaise0]

After finishing the anime, I realised that this is slightly based on a story 'Five boobs of life'. Which teaches us the value of death. There are many things in this anime that I disagree with, even the ending. But that doesn't mean that I didn't like those things. The fact that I really liked the ending even though I disagree with it is something even I don't know. Everyone has different believes about God, they follow different religion, no religion etc. When I was watching the anime l, had the set aside my personal believes so I can understand the anime's perspective. It's not that I will stop praying to the god I had been believing for my whole life just for an anime. I watched that anime thinking that it was an anime and nothing else. I don't think that the characters were shallow. I think that they weren't portrayed very well. And just had firm believes that they didn't wish to let go. This was a very good anime and I doubt that I will forget it.

[@laurenceteal4799]

What if he just combine platinum end and death note? Because he basically introduced the concept of reincarnation and Mirai is just light without the insanity of his personality. And Kanae is just a L with traits Light with siscon Tendencies. It is possible just introduce the story as prime universe God and Angels with the shikigamis and their world and roles.

[@IDoubleJ]

I think Platinum End should get another volume later. That way the audience can get clarity of the purpose of character motivations. Clarity of the ending. But who knows if that could happen

[@mwoooof]

i think i liked it though, for me it was not as meaningless as I thought it would be, idk many people just look at it like the first half was interesting because metropoliman and mirais fighting but the second philosophical part was more interesting to see that if someone dies everything would die with them and without showing the death about one person it showed the destruction of the whole world, it is different from their previous works that's why I get it why people are unsatisfied but its a really good show in the end

[@zelda_draws4865]

It was the first serious manga i ever read, and I was hooked for the first half (I love Nasse), but uh… the end? Seriously?

[@sol666]

So basically the story is special because it had no ending....which essentially makes it the dumbest anime story ever made because it ends by trolling everyone who watched it for a happy ending or a bad ending which is always one of 2 ways a story is supposed to end. I am sure the writers were thinking they made a groundbreaking literary technique....to everyone who read it it was a "WTF DID I JUST GET RICKROLLED" moment.

[@fabi_7425]

now that i saw the ending in the anime im really curios what was special so special about nasse

[@Tonyable1]

Where are people reading the final volume I can’t find it anywhere

[@kakussubrado8966]

Tachiyomi / mangasee

[@AJ-ox8xy]

I think the writing was lacking a little. The later half after Metropoliman died felt lacking and without a clear purpose or direction for the story. In the end we're left confused and wondering why the story happened to begin with. It also gives the first half of the story less meaning imo. The guy that died for his family's safety is never revisited or really touched on again. I think it's just became a very nihilistic story in the end. One that attempted to create a high level thinking about purpose and meaning but completely missed communicating those ideas.

[@Oiriomy]

The angels are fricked up

[@user-sn1hi7my7x]

I'm conflicted. I didn't hate the ending, but I wasn't satisfied. And the last half was very dialogue heavy and philosophical. But, what about Nasse? She seemed like she would be the true God. I mean, I felt let down in a way. It seemed like a very depressing ending as we don't even know what entirely became of our characters other than assuming they're dead. Also, I know the story is fictional, but the numbers and such are way off when it comes to number of deaths every day, those who believe in God, etc. I am glad I read the manga, however. Death Note is definitely better and the ending while somewhat depressing, had closure.

[@Cyberclone07]

Tbh, I really can't bring myself to like this ending, probably because I prefer the End of Evangelion ending much better. Also, don't like the series, but agree with Mukaido being best character, he is just Walter White with powers and I like that.

[@cameronray1387]

I wanna say the main character made me extremely mad. He had a child like view of the world and multiple times throughout the story would let one person live and sacrifice millions; so annoying to watch and is one of my least favorite main characters. The ending was too rushed and I only truly liked nasse and makaido

[@rudycastillo4150]

They should have nasu ability to warn the other candidates before everyone died since she was special angel to create a new god showing that a god is needed

[@khazngray]

Idk that rick sanchez guy at the end was pretty cool because you need an antagonist that wasn't like metropoliman. Im basing this on the anime but it could have been shorter. It wasnt too long tho and still worth the watch.

[@DANKAF]

havent read the manga, how many season do you think the anime will get ?

[@REMCreates]

I'd guess one season, they could definitely speed up the last half of the manga because the pacing slowed way down in the end

[@DANKAF]

@@REMCreates thank you

[@adityaganesh9084]

It will definitely have 1 season only. But it depends if the anime is 1 cour or 2 cour. 12 episodes is too less for this manga, it would be better if it has 24 episodes. But what people are saying that how they hate the ending and the author needs threapy, it looks like it will have 12 episodes.

[@richie4203]

24 episodes.... The official trailer is out today

[@axionlightedge6108]

@@adityaganesh9084 It has 24 episodes 2 cours. Thats pretty funny given what you and other people have been saying.

[@gerz3rker]

This animes ending reminded me of the ending of Devilman Crybaby

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

wow the drawing is beautiful, anime does not even touch the surface, but yeah the plot goes nowhere.

[@artisticbang9111]

Hey Rem Creates, I just watched episode 21 and really got hooked somehow. But do you believe they change the ending like on Death Note into a more fair conclusion?

[@REMCreates]

It looks like they added some tweaks in the anime to give more action in the second half but is largely following the story to a tee, there's only 3 episodes left so we shall see

[@artisticbang9111]

@@REMCreates I hope they do

[@michaelgmr60]

The ending sucks A 13 year old kid became god Killed himself costing the world to end Earth became mars I mean why did the ending show so much depressing I mean surely I was hoping the mc became god and make the world have magic or fix huge economic problems instead they just chose a 13 year old suicidal kid giving all the hard work and it's first day becoming god killed himself erasing All humanity and living life form

[@BetterKeepCalmOfficial]

I don’t even think it was really a suicide. Think about it, if it was really a suicide, why did Nasse tell the angel of destruction that SHE caused all of this? She planted the ideas into the professor that inevitably was enough of an inspiration to make the child do whatever he wanted him to do. The child states after everything he did and even after betraying the professor he still 100% believed his ideals and wanted to help him in the professors plans. The angel of destruction planned all of this and i feel as if this is the hidden truth of the matter. And for the text at the end, i feel like those were the thoughts of the Angel of destruction and not the creatures that created the “god”. This might just be a crazy theory i put together but I truly believe the god of destruction was the main problem in this entire anime and the one person/thing that caused the ending. Also, another point. The god of destruction said multiple times that the professor was fit to know the truth, which possibly is an indicator that he was worthy enough to be so into his ideals that it would be easy for her to manipulate him into causing such a massive mess that could cause what happened.

[@droj7]

I think PLATINUM END is still a masterpiece..it one of the stories where it doesn't follow the formula of a shonen like anime but creating a real like world where anything is possible...just remember the main protagonist did have a happy ending

[@scientificknowledgewithdeb8429]

Everything is fine in this anime except the main character and his girlfriend

[@SpectreMkTwo]

It's not a shonen

[@SpectreMkTwo]

@Yellow Spiderman 2 it's labeled as a shonen but it doesn't have shonen elements. So I consider it a seinen.

[@SpectreMkTwo]

@Yellow Spiderman 2 the fighting was weak and wasn't the focus of the show. It felt like a seinen. The same way Jojo Part 7 and 8 we're labeled Seinen despite having fighting scenes like their Shonen counterparts since the manga had darker and deeper themes. Even Araki considered his later work a seinen. So, I will continue to classify Platinum End as a Seinen as it clearly had darker and deeper themes. Especially with it's philosophical discussions at the very end. Metropoliceman for example doesn't represent a Villian from a shonen

[@SpectreMkTwo]

@Yellow Spiderman 2 I'm not going to read that, enjoy your trash tastes

[@Lathra]

Smart idea give the most depressed kid the power of god nothing will go wrong

[@garrabella89]

The ending was stupid af they should of never chosen a suicidal person like Shuji as God because he killed himself thinking he was helping the professor out with his theory only to kill all of humanity. It reminds me of the snap that Thanos did in Marvel

[@Dartium]

Well its actually a representation of how you cant kill yourself without effecting others as was repeatedly stated to him thats how i understood it atleast.

[@buyanbatka1146]

Good ending only belongs to fairytales. There is no need for all animes to have good ending. For me this is the best ending. Humans won't be ever satisfied by what they have they just crave more. Never ending cycle of pain. It is better to end it all. Well, that is how i see. Don't be too quick to judge. Everyone have the right of free speech. If you can say this is bad ending, then why i can't say this is good ending. Don't be hypocrite.

[@abraham5781]

To me if death note is a 10 than platinum end is a 7.5

[@AsuraQin]

After sitting down and watching this I believe the meaning is that everything becomes meaningless no matter how poor or rich or how powerful or weak you are

[@sammysalgado1475]

So everyone dead the end?

[@kennytheripper2526]

It is really meaningful. You need to understand life at a deeper context, perhaps the ideology of Hindu Manuscripts of Upnishads. The same idea has been used at the end. If not so, then something related to it.

[@wickivicton9450]

that's why god need to create isekai world and stuff like fantasy things and reincarnate those people whom having unfortunate life to fortunate one in their next life..

[@REMCreates]

Well said haha 😂

[@SlayerOfTheDamned]

I liked the ending since the message is something I realized after too many years of pondering upon the answer to the following question. What is the meaning of life? The answer is not what you may think. Which is...to not ponder upon it too much. The ending gives this answer in quick succession with the last few pieces of text which is what I agree. If you go through life wondering the meaning of it all. You’ll be distracted and won’t enjoy life to the fullest. God proving to the profesor that he was right was symbolically showing that pondering upon this question will only lead to a fruitless end. So...don’t think about it too much and do what you want. But if you want a better ending where everyone dies then watch Future Diary. Way better ending.

[@alok.01]

Just finished the ending, 1. What was nasse before becoming angel, who created her or was she the only life form naturally born on earth. 2. Who created god if he was not created by human imagination and are there other gods. moreover why did god created life on earth. 3. Who were those aliens at the end, are they seeking their end by humans or humans who will become god in the far fetched future. some of the questions I wrote are just stupid but still not gonna remove them

[@alok.01]

I meant, I just finished the anime ending

[@mamt9400]

What have u expected? From the title it self literal ending of world. If title is platinum start or platinum continue maybe not bad ending hahaha!

[@tzem2590]

i have nothing to end of the platinum end, but it is too early there still alot of mystery like Nasse we just got first hint why she is the last angel standing, why she can touch human etc but no. END. This was literally my point of serie i wanted to know why Nasse is special i guess f-word me

[@lineoutperson]

Can anyone tell me does mirai kakehashi dies?

[@username1728]

everyone dies at the end, all life on earth and angel world

[@scares3859]

@@username1728 bruh

[@tshidisokele3672]

I think people must also remember the genre of the adaptation....as much as it a super natural shounene., there is also psychological category... i personally did not like the end but i do acknowledge that when a person takes their own life ao many get affected by that decision

[@natman2939]

Not sure if this is in the manga but in the anime they mention that what makes Nasse so special is she existed before this most recent “God” created life. Even if only in microbacteria form.

[@tasleem007]

Ending is disappointing for those who attached with all of theses character they don't want to see all of them just died that's why it's hurt people to watch and that's how it's come they say it's disappointing from my pov without emotions. Nakaumi wants to found out what would happen if he died he wants to know "Who created God".

[@pikachu3314]

the ending was bland and boring it also felt super rushed i know not every story has a good ending but still would have been nice to have a better outcome

[@grimjoe545]

After seeing this anime and i always thought about life and our existence, and i like to have a God candidate too in real life 😁 and i would do the same in the ending

[@alok.01]

you mean destroy all life

[@SneezyKeegz]

Found the edgy 13 year old. You're actually saying you would want to kill yourself and every living creature on earth?

[@CRAZYME01]

It was an amazing anime but some questions are still yet to find like: what was yonedas answer? What happened to the god? Where did all life forms went? What was the secret behind nasse? What i found is nothing 😂 I mean if god was created by human imagination that who created humans and if humans were created by god then what created god. I think nasse has something to do with it, but what? In the end nothing was clear but to believe that this was something beyond human understanding. I can conclude a theory- 1. There was a God at beginning and he created everything (we are conflicting because we have never seen something that existed from start and asking , *who created God?*)

[@asant90]

Its an interesting ending for sure…

[@anchyi1202]

Nakaumi's personality does not evaporate after becoming God, he only has more knowledge about the world surrounding him, making him realize just how much the world is cruel and he wanted a fresh start

[@marklai6952]

The plot of when the person becomes god. They should've revealed every plot hole and content to begin with before doing the impossible of what humanity couldn't in the first place. Create a freakin miracle instead following death and fate itself that nothing created by humanity last forever.

[@ItachiUchiha-ow7sn]

As meaningless as the ending for all of us, It still terrifies me

[@khadeerdudekula7168]

Hay bro ,,did this manga ended?? Will there be any sequels for this anime?

[@REMCreates]

Manga is finished, anime has a couple of episodes left, I don’t think there’s going to be a sequel

[@beyonderlord2309]

It's a Gnostics storyline somehow but not a full gnostics reference

[@DwAboutItManFr]

Descriptions of people are more accurate than what you feel for them.

[@offendedliberal6374]

Who did Nase say bye bye to

[@eren-yeager-rest-in-peace]

Don't u know guys platinum end jas been already animated and got pretty popular but the end is really devastating humanity got wiped out when shujikun killed himself after becoming god the creature.

[@baggelissonic]

For someone that really liked the rules of the series you seemed to completely misrepresent how each candidate's abilities are acquired.

[@partyendsat9235]

I’m here cuz the anime ended, I got lost after Metroman died, then it was down hill. Idk about the ending either. I give the anime a 7/10

[@butcherdesuyoi]

The ending isn't bad because that's the most realistic response you can get from a depressed kid who is selected a god. But if it's a different candidate it could've gone differently.

[@CarnuareVideo]

If yall want action shonen go read Naruto. I'm glad there are mangas which are completely different from what there is out there.

[@taddad2641]

don't try to dignify bad writing byu even trying to claim the edgelord who made it had any tyruth in his messages.

[@CarnuareVideo]

@@taddad2641 There is no truth in art. The rest is my opinion.

[@grayzo16]

Uh they both have action so what are you even talking about?

[@CarnuareVideo]

@@grayzo16 the keyword is shonen

[@grayzo16]

@@CarnuareVideo They both are.

[@justy93]

The big metaphor of the series. To show on a massive scale how suicide can affect everyone.

[@LeloucheViBritainia]

The ending felt alot like evangelion

[@litexq4446]

Platinum end is the biggest upset anime the ending ruined everything