Play Aggressive vs Conservative Golf - Which Scores Lower?

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[@fretless05]

I think my takeaway is that you were driving pretty well in this round, so the "aggressive" play was just getting you a couple clubs closer; but for those of us with much higher handicaps, the misses will be much bigger, so when it comes to risk vs reward, there could be much higher risk in hitting driver or going for hero-shots. As I continue to try to bring my handicap down, I know the difference in my scores would be much bigger than one stroke, so I'll continue to play with my head and rely much less on my swing... course management rarely fails while my swing often does.

[@GolfSidekick]

exactly - this is the kind of nuanced thinking I am proud to have in my comments. thank you

[@fretless05]

@@GolfSidekick Thanks... like I said, with my swing, I need to think more!

[@silvermediastudio]

100%, I have found the same in my play, and those I frequently play with who are serious about improving but still above five or six handicap. In almost every case, the risks simply aren't worth the rewards offered by the course, when strokes can be eliminated from other parts of the game much more easily. I appreciate the "strokes gained" analysis and theory by Broadie, but it is only applicable for very low handicappers and professionals who 1) have the skill to identify and execute the right opportunities to exploit its benefits, 2) have the skill to reliably recover from the inevitable errant shots especially deep rough and fairway bunkers, and 3) have a quantifiable need to gain fractional strokes over the course of a multi-day tournament, where 1-2 strokes makes the difference in where one places. People often forget that not only are their skill levels on another planet, pros and their caddies know the courses they play inside and out, they are making highly informed decisions about every shot. Similar to an F1 race, the driver and crew know the course intimately, and have strategized and tested where small risks can be taken to gain fractions of a second, which has the mathematical potential to add up to a slight edge after hundreds of laps. You wouldn't try this approach while going to get groceries in a Toyota XD

[@Rich--J]

Agree with you too. This course has a lot of room for high #s for those that want to grip it and rip it. Been using the WOTP system for about a month or so and it's really taken the stress off the game and made it enjoyable--especially when I'm in the middle of the fairway watching others look in the rough and woods for their ball(s). lol

[@JM-qn3tf]

Yeah, he should do this again but left-handed

[@Babydogdaddy]

This is the number one golf channel on KZbin.

[@GolfSidekick]

easily

[@silvermediastudio]

Holds the title for top three Lithuanian Golf KZbinrs, all at the same time.

[@Randsurfer]

Just wait until I launch my channel. Matty will still be number 1.

[@Jeebizz101]

Your massive advantage in length gives you the options, hitting 4i further than a lot of peoples driver is a game changer

[@johnnyanderson8287]

I am 66 and was a decent 7 hdc. about 30 yrs ago. I quit golf for a while and now am playing again. For a bit I was obsessed with getting my old swing back and watched several instruction vids. After watching yours I now see my errored ways. Golf should be fun again without trying to recapture the past. You have inspired me to just go be a "playa" and enjoy the game. The days of competing and stressing are over for me! Thank you for your videos and I will continue to have fun and learn from your suggestions!

[@platobach8309]

“… dog in the race … horse in the fight …”. You’re a blast, Mattie Boom-Boom.

[@duffer0309]

Matt, you keep hitting it out of the park with these videos. This highlighted what I’ve been thinking about. If you can’t comfortably reach the green if you are confident in yourself, you are probably going to score about the same with any club you are confidential with. And the biggest difference between a good round and a bad round is going to be your mental attitude. I’m probably the opposite of most everyone. My confidential club off the tee is my driver. For some reason I’m not confidential off the tee with other clubs. So what do I do when I can’t hit a full driver. I just hit a 3/4 driver into the middle of the fairway.

[@GolfSidekick]

Exactly playa. Beast Mode

[@josephdaou5421]

With your help good sir I broke 80 yesterday. Thank you spare time legend

[@GolfSidekick]

well done playa i gave you the key you found the lock i accept 98% of the credit only

[@josephdaou5421]

@@GolfSidekick I shot 97 today. Will you take responsibility? Titties to the hole. I went high and I cried

[@GolfSidekick]

@@josephdaou5421 no sir i wasn’t even in the vicinity

[@williamkang1481]

@@GolfSidekick😂

[@CampaholicsTV]

I don’t give a shit which one you play just pick your best shots and play. I LOVE your channel, since I started watching I swear to you my scores have come down. I actually parred 8 out of 9 a week ago. You showing us all its a lot to with mentality. Appreciate you Legend!

[@santtumaki6172]

4 iron is much more exciting than driver for me. Driver either slices, duck hooks or goes pretty much straight, but 4 iron might do anything.

[@jackwest5295]

Till you get Old. then a hybrid is the Only Way...

[@erichansen3641]

NICE PUTTING! To me, Conservative golf is not hitting a 4 iron/hybrid off the tee all the time. Conservative golf is not boring. What is boring is hitting a Driver into a fairway bunker or OB or into the water. Who likes making bogies and double bogeys all the time? That's boring. Making pars is not boring. Conservative golf can be hitting Driver (Green Light) or hitting 3 wood or 2 hybrid (Yellow Light). If the hole is not very long it certainly makes sense to lay up and hit a full wedge into the green rather than hitting a driver to an awkward distance of 50 yards to the hole for your approach shot. PGA Pro Michael Block has a good video out where he hits Driver off the tee on a Par 5, then hits a 9 iron for his second shot to 100 yards from the green, short of bunkers and creeks. Then he hits his bread/butter Lob Wedge approach from 100 yards out and makes Eagle 3 (sinks the lob wedge) when his goal was birdie 4. He says you never know what might happen when you play it smart. You see far to many PGA Tour pros going for the green in 2 on par 5's only to end up in the lake or an awkward greenside bunker position. To me, Conservative golf is going for the green in regulation, not going for the green in 1 less than regulation (i.e. going for the green on the drive on a Par 4, and going for the green in 2 on a Par 5).

[@stephenblack6615]

While I need to play conservatively, it seems that Matt has grown confidential with the Driver and is holding back for our sakes. Thank you for your service, sir!

[@SSBluefoxx]

That Rick Shiels v Sergio Garcia comment!!! 12:28

[@lauren038]

Talking about rick shiels. It will be amazing to see these two guys play a round together

[@JaimeVasquezBigData]

@@lauren038 My money is squarely on Matty Boom Boom

[@BigD1957]

I am proud to say, because of your videos, I have mastered the aggressive missionary position.

[@jackwest5295]

I prefer the bIG DOG . Doggie drive...

[@CamMacMastermusic]

THANK YOU Matty boy !!! I’ve been asking for this for years!!

[@stevenelton7186]

6 months in and just starting to get solid in my ball striking. Dont carry a driver. Go to off the tee is 5 wood. Love the course management instruction. Hoping to break 90 in the next 6 months. Cheers!

[@Taboloncawonthemasters]

I love how much time you put in to helping me! Thanks brother!

[@tnusplyrmb]

Love this side by side comparison Mattie BB! It would be neat to see a 1 vs 1 competition with one player hitting all aggressive shots and the other playing conservatively and see who wins! You have helped me take 4 strokes off my game in a year!! Thank you for that 🎉

[@tonymiddlehurst8438]

Quality vid mon, loving the antics of the lassies in the background

[@Pandifeb1962]

Your hints are brilliant. Thanks

[@mp-rcspeedrun2759]

Just discovered your channel this week . Great vids with great advice .

[@Silanghet92]

I’m still far from hitting as consistently and smooth as you. Videos really helped the past few games I played since I found your channel. Thank you. Just hoping to get more practice and confidence in my conservative shots.

[@Bokka-7]

Howzit, I just took your suggestions on the front 9 today and pared every hole. It was a pleasure, relaxing and stress free apart from trying to reach par 5 in 2. Scraped a par. Thought about each shot, using the decision box v playing box. Fabulous tips, many thanks 🎉🤗⛳️👌

[@jokegolf]

love the content you are pumping out currently, playa!

[@dexterhughes9307]

Had my first round out a week ago, shot an eighty at a course that’s not very challenging but I kept driver in bag! Thanks for the tips champ🙏

[@oneleggedturkey]

Brother, I just want to say thank you. I guess I kind of did things backwards. I watched a bunch of your videos before playing my first round of real golf. I've done scrambles with the guys, but there were always gimmes, mulligans, and anger in the group. I went out by myself and played a very lovely course with the knowledge that I will suck, I will miss, but I will be smart and play to have fun. Playing every single ball where it fell (I did lose a couple to water) I shot a 122 and was so proud of myself. I took a small journal and wrote a few words about every shot I took so that I can see what works. Thanks for bringing some zen into my life.

[@Groovethumper69]

Excellent work with the flagstick Playa! I think that’s the best putting you’ve ever had on video.😎

[@MrRimShaker]

Crazy to think I use to be a 4 handicap in highschool and now I can't even break 90 without breaking a sweat... It's 1000% in between the ears. My confidence with the shots I use to take/pick, visualizing the shot, pre-shot routine has changed. That + I can't hit the ball nearly as far as I use to lol... I hope to break into the single digit hcp soon though!

[@topshamjohn6782]

Loving the fact you play this as it is… no faking to make things fit the narrative! 😊 just wish I could hit the ball like you do!!

[@adambitner4690]

I loved the confidence meter, because I think what players need to learn is that you should play the shot you are confident in. And that confidence needs to be a confidence that you’ll be in a good position. Most golfers are going to have clubs you’re more confident with, and clubs you’re not, you need to make sure to stick to the clubs and shots you’re confident you can hit, and stay in safety

[@chefsteve8585]

Matty layin it down lately! Loving all the content. This one gets a gold medal. Keep it comin.

[@boston86fj60]

great presentation & hilarious ending

[@JDG083]

Matt I was so proud last night! I played safe on a par 5 and made a par, instead of going for the green in 2 with a fairway wood. Hit to a favorite wedge distance and had a green in regulation from a comfy distance. I then hit a second shot from the fairway just to prove I could and did so! I needed to make par to shoot +9 through 9 holes and did so by playing smart. Thanks playa!

[@efletch1768]

Love your swing!

[@dougc.3351]

Bro, you play some Great courses! Love the content!!!!

[@nathansamuel222]

Okay we need the rick shiels match now

[@Easypeck]

him & not a scratch golfer. He's really good too and is all about fundamentals

[@sultan450]

He would kill Rick😂

[@nathansamuel222]

@@sultan450 i’m imagining him playing the ‘time to live’ theme at the end while rick abandons his driver

[@silvermediastudio]

Rick only plays on the sim.

[@hemley100]

He would batter rick 😂

[@cameronp2965]

Never change playa. Not only do you give solid golf advice to the masses, but you're a hell of a funny dude. Best KZbin putter AND best KZbin comedian.

[@oliver69cork46]

Go 1 iron or 2 iron for excitement then iron it all the way-for the driver is boring and hate hybrids but each to their own. Great video,youre a marvel. Love to see you use a 64 degree wedge! Youd have no problem

[@itsv1p3r]

Been binging your videos slime, u might be the realest golf youtuber of all time

[@GolfSidekick]

bless up homeslice

[@Rich--J]

Great video and info like always!!! Your caddie "Par" must enjoy and have a good time on your rounds. Until the next video. Cheers!

[@JiKimbo]

Got the first open of the season next week, and I've been planning my round. Gonna try my best to be in conservative mode and use my confidential clubs. Top content as ever Playa. Your putting is on 🔥

[@sammoz4209]

My brother, confidentiality means secret. Confident means sure of yourself. Use "confidence" not confidentiality. 💪🏽

[@christopherflower3973]

He's joking when he says confidential...

[@richardgilfedder2807]

Im a 26 handicapper. Trying to become a Playa. Went round 9 over for front 9 today. Few frustrating holes on the way back in but hey, who cares! Came in 23 over. Making progress.

[@davowood1]

The excitification was real while watching this video. The concept of risk vs rewardicality needs to be considerate at all times when attempting to playerise your best golf.

[@rwldebruijn1979]

Totally love al this 'confidential' golf information. :-) Small question, you've probably answered somewhere already: what kind of 7 wood are you using? Thanks for everything mate!

[@MrJohnr47]

Hey Mattie BB. I noticed that on several of you aggressive T offs you were blocking yourself out by where you were teeing up the ball. I caddied at a course where we had a number of holes with overhanging tees and bushes by the tee box and often we would help the members by making them aware of where they teed up. A couple of yards can matter a ton. Love your content brother.

[@GolfSidekick]

Yeah usually but the distances to the obstacles is too close to make much difference on these certain holes- I have tried but too close to me

[@MrJohnr47]

@@GolfSidekick I here you. But it just rang a bell with my past experiences with higher handicappers. Peace

[@BEAN9999]

I will always hit driver when the risk/reward is not to extreme. But i dont take much risk with the clubs i have in my bag. I have driver,3wd,5wd,7wd,9wd. Thise clubs go from 300+ driver 215 9 wd All of them go great distances and are easier to hit than hybrids or irons. So my longest iron is 6 iron.

[@franskrause4658]

The risk of aggressive golf is MUCH higher for a weekend hacker.... and still: most of us choose that option!!!! 😂

[@anthonyat2401]

This is great - I just can't see how to apply it practically on my particular course. It seems that the risk-reward is high on just about every hole. Eg. first - short P4, slight dog-leg left, penalty areas either side of a huge dip in the middle and trees both sides. If you play short, it's a blind shot from a 35 degree slope and possible blocked by the dog-leg. It goes on from there; there seems to be so few opportunities to play sensibly, without incurring just as much grief. I wish you could see it! Maybe there are chances to apply this wisdom on second or third shots however.

[@Hamishmcbeth]

You are so good at putting it almost doesn’t matter what you do tee - green

[@ZaxDrumsandGolf]

I think you need a bit of both!! There are holes where you can be aggressive and other for the conservative route!! Like you said it all depends on what one feels comfortable with doing or playing!! Great video Matty Matty Boom Boom!!🏌‍♂⛳😀👍

[@titochris2701]

amazing content!!

[@stevemazzilli4006]

you sir are a godsend!

[@Dropthehat-dj1qu]

Golf sidekick you may have already spoken about it in another video but I have a question regarding jumbo grips What’s your view on them in general and for beginners?

[@roberttaylor1801]

I think you might have something there about aggressive and conservative, but for me it's for something different. I find it's not just a tee off distance that is important. I find I like to leave my second shot is better for me if it's a full shot rather than trying to manipulate or conjure up a shot that is probably way above my ability. I do agree but for a different reason.

[@GolfSidekick]

Love it

[@danieljd6776]

Your swing and putting has been money coming off your injury. You must feel very refreshed.

[@Lviz]

love your content

[@Findek]

Music is back!

[@duffer0309]

Yea but he threw in a couple of fake outs! That kept us wondering

[@kosmohs]

Keep the Rick Shiels jab coming 😂 he was the very golf channel I subbed

[@prussell7377]

My aggressive play would put me in the trees, you make it look so easy, but I’ve learnt so much from your channel 👏👍

[@yus16g]

I'd really like to see this exact format left handed (with a bit more practice) as i think there'd be a lot more unreliability in the aggressive shots which is probably closer to my game 😅

[@GolfSidekick]

I’ll do it

[@yus16g]

@@GolfSidekick let's gooooooo ❤️

[@kylekaminski4326]

I think you learned about swinging freely and how it can control your driver more than trying to force your driver into a specific spot

[@danielowen5889]

Sweet Baus... thanks

[@lgeiger]

13:43 The "conservative" flop shot? 😂 Great shot though, haha. I am a 16 handicap and I can totally relate to what you said. Some people think you are playing a high risk shot when you are actually not and sometimes it can even be the other way around. I basically always play with people who are not nearly hitting it as far as I do, so they go off their own yardages and think, "Oh, 250 yards to the beginning of the water? Of course I am going ot hit driver here." At the same time I cannot even hit my 3-hybrid, because it could reach the water. On the other hand there are holes which have a huge 100 yard wide fairway between a carry distance of 270 and 320 yards, which is perfect for my driving distance. I could basically hook or slice it 50 yards each direction and still hit the fairway which can even make the driver a low risk club sometimes. For my swing speed and my handicap the conservative play usually is the better choice, because it eliminates the quadruple bogey factor. I noticed that on Par 5s I tend to hit driver more often to have a chance to reach the green in 2, which feels great, but can easily end in a disaster.

[@bizzleb23]

The every day content is beautiful

[@greatsagejas]

Great stuff Stimp Daddy Boom-Boom

[@zeos386sx]

No horse in the fight, I'm gonna steal that one.

[@brandonbruno19]

What I wanna know is when are we getting the matching shorts that us common golfers can buy to look even more amazing on the course and have people mesmerized by how amazing the outfit looks and that way they dont see the shank i just hit. Love the videos Baus Matt.

[@GolfSidekick]

15-16 april maboi

[@slipadeus2646]

What was this course? Looks nice

[@plusfour1]

I think the bottom line is that you have to know when to hit driver and when to play the higher probability shot to stay away from trouble. It's course management.

[@jakeb7867]

What are your thoughts on teeing off all the way to one side of the tee box when you're blocked out of the left or right by trees? I feel like you would have given yourself a better angle on holes 4/6 if you teed off all the way to the right. Cheers mate!

[@GolfSidekick]

Minimal angle to be had on those tees. I know what you mean though. Better when there’s more space on the tee

[@injuredtabletennisplayer1474]

Do you have a link to a slow motion of your golf swing?

[@GolfSidekick]

no - we dont focus on golf swing here basic rundown of my swing: out to in steep too square at impact but i rock it

[@jayzechab]

Where can I buy a confidentiality meter?

[@thehairygolfer]

I like conservative aggressive. Just got to know what you can do and not being afraid to do what you can do. If you can't play the shot play conservative. Then go get some help to learn how to do it.

[@Both-Barracuda]

I used my driver all round yesterday which I never do. I did it as a test to see if it’s worth it. The issue I have is people use their driver then don’t take the correct penalty. If you lose your ball and drop it 230-250 meters where you’ve lost it it’s a 2 shot penalty for the loss of ball and distance rather than 1 shot penalty. If people played properly their scores would be a lot higher.

[@thomasgarcia8118]

what if lets say you use a 4/5 hybrid instead of a 4 iron. If this really focuses around using a club with more loft opposed to a driver then wouldnt it be fine to use a 4/5 hy since they have more loft than a 4i and go 30-50 yards further?

[@rhinofist1]

Where is this? Is it south Asia? Malaysia? These course all look so good.

[@bombaybandit]

My my, so confidential

[@dannytan9965]

Love the addition of the confidentiality meter after all the comments 😂

[@davidbarnard2716]

Glad you are still able to swing and play well despite the awful accident you've suffered to both arms Mattie

[@optimus3802]

You actually might be the best putter on KZbin for real though

[@Wahgwarn]

12:25 Brutal! Wadda-comedian… 😂 Awesome content… 🫡

[@GolfSidekick]

saváge

[@brendanmale5934]

You should do a similar course management video with a high handicapper. Let him play his normal non thought out shots with the first ball & you coach & suggest shots/clubs with the second ball.

[@GolfSidekick]

If you edit it! LOL I will do it this week with my left handed game maboi

[@brendanmale5934]

@@GolfSidekickhaha. I’d give it a crack

[@jayzechab]

My dude - what software are you using to measure distances on the map?

[@GolfSidekick]

Earth

[@FootprintPhoto]

Love your videos, just one question though . . .when you say confidentiality do you mean confidence? Confidentiality means something else entirely

[@GolfSidekick]

No sir those are in fact differential words

[@stevemagers8159]

You are the best putter on you tube!

[@danny90044]

Both strategies work if you can put like the big boss Matt

[@javes35]

I love the channel and have followed a long time. I still think that you and the strokes gained guys are saying the same thing. Hit the longest club you can while minimizing penalty strokes and the need to punch out. As you said early in this video, you can hit longer clubs and still be conservative and vice versa. The key to me is to think your way around the course. Either style of golf still requires to be able to get up and down.

[@javes35]

Forgot to add that to get better fast, keep it in play and avoid trouble. To get to your ultimate potential, a playa has to learn to be effective with the driver.

[@GolfSidekick]

I’d like to subscribe to a strokes gained service just to get that ignorant and condescending attitude they seem to get bundled in for free

[@javes35]

@@GolfSidekick😂

[@silvermediastudio]

The strokes gained theory/approach is not "Hit the longest club you can while minimizing penalty strokes and the need to punch out." The theory prescribes hitting longer in order to, over the course of time, gain fractional stroke advantage over the theoretical opponent, who is not a simple average, but a modal average, using a pseudo-statistical methodology with a non-Gaussian (ie not normalized) data set. It further ignores the difference between correlation and causation in its analysis. It prescribes a shot selection approach that heavily favors the rewards offered by a course design. The point here is that for players who are low hcp or better, they can 1) control the ball more to avoid penalties and 2) get out of trouble reliably with more than just a sideways punchout. Players above a five or six hcp, and definitely above a 9, simply cannot do these things reliably enough to make "strokes gained" a feasible strategy for shot selection and course management. Players not regularly in the mid-70s shouldn't even be considering this approach. It only offers benefits to the best players who are seeking fractional stroke advantages against their peers on key holes, in particular during the course of a multi-day tournament where 1-2 strokes differentiate where one finishes in the standing.

[@duffer0309]

Strokes Gained is a calculation of the number of strokes it takes a group of certain handicap players to get it in the hole from different distances. It does not say hit it longer. That’s conclusions drawn from reviewing the data. There are numerous flaws in the calculation like types of lies and if you are short sided or not. It’s assumed that these balance out in the long term. It also ignored wind and weather conditions. Again assumed to offset over time. That being said the concept of strokes gained should come into play with every decision you make. But it’s your personal strokes gained and it factors in more than just data on how far you hit the ball, what confidence you have, the lie, the wind, where trouble is. Our minds are wonderful machines. If you listen they take everything into consideration and spit out the best course of action for that instance in time. I’ve played my course many many times with different pin positions. I can they’ll you my expected score (in whole numbers) from any spot on the course to any pin position. I’m using my personal shots gained data to make every decision. For example today we were playing and where our balls were in thick wet rough. We were 125 yards from the pin. At that point we were playing to get the ball close to the green as possible. We accepted bogey as a fair outcome.

[@briankim9781]

I think hitting the conservative shot first would have been better. Your second attempt will mostly be better because you have more info

[@50orBust]

It’s almost like if you are really good at golf it doesn’t matter what you do. Also you have options driver not playing we’ll just pull out the 4 iron. A lot of weekend hackers will screw up a 5 iron off the tee so they just think might aswell just swing my driver. It’s easy to lose sight of your game plan when you try to play conservative and screw it up anyways 😅

[@GolfSidekick]

It’s true lobotomy is irreversible

[@anischab]

Last year: no birdie, no tip… this year: no eagle, no tip… 👍 👍

[@duffer0309]

Yea but he also said two birdies two tips!

[@UncleNewy1]

I'll be honest with you mate, I've seen your vids on and off for the last few years now, but never really took much notice. But I've decided this season I am making a push to break 80. And from watching a few of your vids about breaking 90, breaking 100, breaking 80 and some just about thinking slightly differently, Including this one, I think you have the key I need to achieve my goal. I've only ever shot 80 once, but it was on a par 70 9 holer with 18 tees, but I pretty much always break 90. Currently 16 handicap (been as low as 12), but never played more regularly than once a month (sometimes once every two years). 53 years old with long game of a 10 handicap.....but short game of a 25 🤣 Anyway I'll stop talking sh!te........you have my sub.

[@_caseyjames]

The problem is that mid-high handicappers with fragile ego's on Reddit think that they should be copying the gameplan of the tour pros because of 'data'. Play your game, hit the shots you can make 9/10, not 1/10. 🤙 Plaaayaaaaaaa

[@jackwest5295]

Wedding cake for the best Golfers...

[@mufc778]

Playing as bad ass as that being aggressive has give me 14:39 some bad thoughts now 😂

[@alanrhind4960]

As always, a joy to watch. 100 per cent commitment. Does it get any better 🤔. Naaaa

[@shaneconnell9306]

“You’re not going to make many of these puts” *proceeds to drain both*

[@fsnicolas]

"Best putter on KZbin!" YEAH!!

[@zazhou]

If you play all the various formats of competition golf, you will soon learn under what circumstances you need to play percentage or to be aggressive. That I state very confidentially.

[@GolfSidekick]

Thank you for your confidentialism

[@jayzechab]

Will you do this lefty?

[@GolfSidekick]

Yes in a couple weeks it will be out

[@tranquil8949]

Where did you go to get fitted?

[@GolfSidekick]

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