Player Controlled Helicopters In Cold Waters!!

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Inspired by the 1988 classic “Red Storm Rising”, command a nuclear submarine in a desperate attempt to prevent “mutually assured destruction” when the Cold War gets hot and WWIII begins.
You will be tasked with intercepting convoys, amphibious landings, insertion missions and battling it out with enemy warships, submarines and aircraft. Thankfully, an arsenal of wire-guided torpedoes, anti-ship and cruise missiles and the occasional SEAL team are on board to keep the Iron Curtain at bay.

[@germax7]

I hope these mechanics show up in Sea power, it could be amazing fighting with a game designed around these aspects.

[@johnnyjohnson7763]

I think the videos the devs released thus far included helicopters for scouting and dropping torps, as well as a plane dropping an anti-submarine weapon. So, I'm very optimistic in that regard

[@billmuller6133]

In the footage they showed you can already see player controllable helicopters which with full animations (rolling out of the hangar and slowly spooling up) and you can also already see helicopter equipped radars with datalink working in that video so I think we can be sure that they will be part of sea power

[@jayblake682]

The captain and crew of that Akula deserve a lot of respect. Their stubborn sacrifice probably saved the Typhoon.

[@callsignapollo_]

Also just goes to show how tough these later soviet subs were, the akula tanking so many shots with that titanium hull, and the typhoon's bilateral redundancy and sheer size mean youd have to pretty thoroughly pulverize her on both sides to confirm a kill.

[@NobleKorhedron]

Agreed, @@callsignapollo_. The Typhoon was pretty much double-hulled along most of her flanks. I can't remember if that's two titanium hulls, or a standard outer hull and inner titanium hull... 🤔

[@jwrockets]

I was aboard USS Chicago (SSN 721) in 1996 and was involved in some of the initial testing of the Mk 50. Our task was to do whatever we could think of to fool the tracking of the torpedo. The development team was very disappointed in the performance of the torpedo.

[@imposter0shadow]

So the Mk 50 is a terrible torpedo?

[@shipsability]

@@imposter0shadow It was probably remade and perhaps upgraded.

[@imposter0shadow]

@@shipsability 🤷idk don't know really anything about them

[@shipsability]

@@imposter0shadow I talked to a submariner (torpedoman) and he told me that he couldn't give "that information." i''m gonna guess it's classified and has since then upgraded alot

[@grnmjolnir]

The crew all farted at once and the torpedo became confused and began to track the seafloor

[@MouldedSalad]

The captain and crew of that Akula deserve flipping medals (posthumously of course). 🎖️

[@NobleKorhedron]

You mean an escort? The Akula isn't an SSBN...

[@getsideways7257]

@@NobleKorhedron The Typhoon class is called Akula by the Russians, whereas the Akula class is actually a Pike. Go figure...

[@NobleKorhedron]

That's part of the quirks of language, I guess @@getsideways7257...?

[@getsideways7257]

@@NobleKorhedron More like the quirks of those who come up with the designations...

[@anzaca1]

@@getsideways7257 NATO designations never follow what the units are actually named.

[@MrFireSpy]

Wow, this mod is getting better and better, Looks like it takes way longer to deploy and retract the towed arrays now.. Awesome..

[@MrPhantom453]

Yet helicopters which rearm almost instantaneously???

[@adamkiraly9805]

@@MrPhantom453 it's a work in progress considering this game isn't ment yo have surface ships be playable let alone helicopters

[@juliusa4129]

@@MrPhantom453 I'm sure you could self-impose a reload time, until its implemented as a feature

[@DEP1323]

I served 4 years on the USS Fahrion FFG-22 as an Electrician. Nice to see what all the other sailors were doing while we were in the engineering spaces...

[@drtidrow]

Typhoons are tough to sink with Mk50s, especially given their twin parallel pressure hulls. IIRC, they take at least two Mk48s to kill, so probably at least four hits with Mk50s.

[@foreverpinkf.7603]

The Akula took 4, so, maybe 8 for the Typhoon?

[@drtidrow]

@@foreverpinkf.7603 Wouldn't surprise me, they're tough.

[@callsignapollo_]

Killing a typhoon is basically trying to sink 2 deltas stuck together with another free-flood hull around them, theres a reason the class is so legendary

[@nunyadambusiness6902]

What about the air-launched torps? 🤔🤔🤔

[@tufftrucker40]

I was stationed on the uss thach ffg 43 Oliver hazard perry class. They were designed to kill submarines and aircraft but they were fast and very agile and able to out turn almost any torpedo the Russians had at the time. On board we had an sh60 b Seahawk helicopter with the l.a.m.p.s. radar and was also able to track submarines via data link from from out ship or any other American ship involved in anti submarine combat. They were top notch at the time and those mk 50 torpedoes were a nasty little pit bull that would have absolutely sunk the Akula or kilo with a single hit but the typhoon is an enormous ship so it would've probably taken several direct hits to sink one. Cool game

[@waynehatchell6343]

I served aboard USS Robert G. Bradley FFG-49 Oliver Hazard Perry class. We were part of DESRON 6 Atlantic Fleet. 1986-1991

[@noop1111]

helicopter with the l.a.m.p.s. You ran web servers from helicopters?

[@tyranusfan]

@@noop1111 LAMPS helicopters (Light Airborne Multi Purpose System). Refers to first the SeaSprite and later the SeaHawk

[@Strelnikov403]

Sucks that the helos don't currently have dipping sensors modeled (I assume they're planned). They're useful on ships that otherwise lack standoff ASW weapons like ASROC, Vodopad, etc, but are otherwise useless, albeit flashy as hell. Super impressive to see this + Nixie, can't wait to see where else Dotmod goes.

[@jefftheriault5522]

They've also got that little MAD bird they can tow just above the water for a "DROP THE TORP!" Ping as it goes over the metal mass of the sub.

[@TonyC2328]

I was actually serving on an Oliver Hazard Frigate back in 2013 to 2015, we decomissioned it after deployment. Was one of the last remaining ones in the U.S fleet. VERY cool to see it in game! However, the prop isn't right. It was a twin propeller, but oh well! Tid bit of info on the ship, they're designed to take torpedo hits and usually sit on the outside of the Carrier strike group. We were called the torpedo sponge lol

[@monostripezebras]

Back in the good old "Dangerous Waters" days.. you could fly the helicopters and Orions in first person from the cockpit and have the sonor stations modeled... I kind of wish that would be redone in a modern game some day.

[@papatango2362]

The Mk50 seems so easy to be deceived by noisemakers than MK48 ADCAPs. Is that because of a lack of wire guidance.

[@Phoenix_VR]

possibly yes.

[@getsideways7257]

ADCAPs cost nearly *four* million dollars apiece and they are huge mofos, so it's safe to bet the electronics on the inside is much more ADvanced than what you could find in a typical lawnmower. For that kinda money the thing should be able to figure out the engagement geometry on its own.

[@papatango2362]

@@getsideways7257 thanks for your insight. But put them on all platforms such as airplanes (P8 Poseidon), Seahawks, and DDGX.

[@hawkeye5955]

@@papatango2362 : The ADCAP torpedoes are too big for the Seahawk to carry. They're heavy weight torpedoes used by submarines.

[@rjpx947]

Many years ago, in the 80's, the Oliver Hazard Perry itself was docked up somewhere on the lakeshore at Chicago. I got to do a public tour with my dad. 'Even' destroyers are impressive to see up close.

[@markstott6689]

Another fun episode. To be fair there's rarely a dull moment in any of Wolfpack's videos.

[@MouldedSalad]

This is a huge game changer - life for AI submarine commanders just got a whole lot more problematic! 😅

[@hawkeye5955]

It's about time we can deliver torpedoes on top of their heads by helicopter. 😂

[@jamesturner9651]

Seeing that OHP hunting subs instantly made me think of: "Its a frigate. US, probably. Perry class. He's signaling! 'Red October, Red October, halt and stay where you are. Do not attempt to submerge or you will be fired upon!' Captain, I think he means to board us."

[@ironred6693]

I’d love to see a surface ship series come from this!

[@Mariner311]

VERY interesting game - I played a LOT of Harpoon back in the 80s and 90s... from a board game to a computer "game" that we used as a training tool in the ASWModule on USS Kitty Hawk. I was an SH60B crewman, so THIS video was amusing.

[@jefftheriault5522]

I'm the guy that did the cover art and interior graphics for the first edition of the miniatures and tabletop HARPOON rules book. Take a look, they misspelled my last name.

[@carlitosskater89]

I have to be honest (been playing DOT mod since release): this is the most anticipated mod feature I was hoping to have one day! It plays such a HUGE part in ASW, fuck yesss!

[@captainfoxythepiratefox8874]

They are planning on adding new things and fixing problems in the latter week they wanted to get this update out for the 1 year that DM been around

[@captainfoxythepiratefox8874]

The new things they are gonna add later is the ability for the helis to use dipping sonar, give them depth charge bombs, and add the helis to their respected ships such as the Kiev. And i meant weeks, typos are a bitch lol. They do this on their spare times since rl calls their times.

[@garytwinem5275]

Now what's needed is a British accent option for the Royal Navy campaign 🙂

[@captainfoxythepiratefox8874]

@@garytwinem5275 lol if you have a British accent and a mic you can volunteer to help them

[@garytwinem5275]

@@captainfoxythepiratefox8874 Although, to be fair, there were a lot of American Type IX Uboat crews in the Pacific, according to Silent Hunter IV: U-Boat missions 🙂

[@captainfoxythepiratefox8874]

@@garytwinem5275 lol

[@_R-R]

The Wolf's lethality just expanded exponentially.

[@foreverpinkf.7603]

Yup, hammering the subs with 3 m $ per shot, like in real life. Very expansive torps with little effect. I don´t know, why the frigate is using the short range, aerial dropped, light weighted torps instead of the good old trusty Mk 48. Cold waters is a good game for realism with submarines and sub tactics. With the Dot-mod it is becoming more and more a kind of arcade game.

[@TheSDB13]

@@foreverpinkf.7603 Neither the Seahawk or the OHP could fire the Mk. 48 so Wolf has to work with what commanders get so I don't see how it's being more arcadey then Cold Waters already is

[@TheSDB13]

Imagine being the OHP captain cruising along all by himself and then an Akula and Typhoon pop up on sonar XD

[@mk6315]

“Number two, wake up damage control and tell them to get the duct tape ready”

[@Milk192]

Typhoons take an extraordinary amount of punishment. My favorite subs. Their greatest weakness is how slowly they pick up speed. If you counter detect them and engage with haste, they're done for. Can't dance with torps and decoys if you're still trying to push a heavy cruiser underwater. Wonderful machines.

[@callsignapollo_]

Everything about the typhoon is so uniquely soviet, too. I mean, a swimming pool, sauna, and arcade machines in a wood paneled and carpeted quarters, those mariners were living quite nicely under the waves

[@themacker894]

Amazing mod! Amazing modders! Edit: The subs are so much more durable in this new update.

[@Eruthian]

Thinking about that brave Akula, there`s an idea bugging in my head for uiet a while now. Which would make sense at least for surface ship career mode. Instead of gunning down subs that emergency blow having the possibility of taking the ship as prize and the crew as captive post battle (Supposed u make it back to homeport with the damaged ship in tow.). Capturing enemy high value tech to study should give some extra prestige. Also maybe triggering a counter hunt to intercept you before u make port.

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

Neat idea. But if you have realistic scuttling, players might get frustrated.

[@Eruthian]

@@mikhailiagacesa3406 You mean when you loose a mission? That`s generally a 50/50 already if u can recontinue or not. I was thinking of adding it as optional thing to do either during combat or after. Like forcing a sub that just emergency blowed to the surface to surrender with warning shots. Might also add the opportunity to include the escape pods of russian subs. Aka capturing russian crew that evacuated a destroyed sub via pod.

[@Eruthian]

You then could also add f.ex that due to interrogation you get to see a bigger potion of enemy forces reveiled on the map for a short periode of time or some.

[@jacobhill3302]

The Perry should have ASROC in its missile magazines as well

[@drtidrow]

That's what looks to be in the VLS. Should have used them to drop on the Kilo and Typhoon. (later) Nope, those are Standards in the VLS, not ASROC. Bummer.

[@Hurricane2k8]

I just thought "hey, let's check wolfpack's channel to see if there is any new Cold Waters stuff". This was released a minute ago. fan-fucking-tastic timing.

[@matthewmay954]

New Wolfpack video to watch while making chicken and drop dumplings. It's a great afternoon!

[@ethanmcfarland8240]

Pilot o'mally would be proud wolfpack

[@waynehatchell6343]

I served aboard the USS Robert G Bradley FFG-49 an Oliver Hazard Perry class, 1986-1991. Great ship. Great crew. Great shipmates.

[@papatango2362]

Can we do a Seawolf in the South China Sea with Dotmod next.

[@Wolfpack345]

Maybe!

[@RuthlessPope]

Yes! I LOVE the OHP! I got to tour the USS Clark when she was doing her Great Lakes tour in 1999. Since then, this class of ships has been my favorite. Thank you for this video, my good man. You made my week!

[@luigirota7964]

23:22 and this is a tough and resistant one

[@chrissan7043]

Thanks!

[@xaviercolon3227]

Loving DOTMOD. Your videos showcasing the capabilities are great as well as the campaign series. I do have a question though, how do you change the locations of the UI elements? I can't seem to figure that out.

[@jmackmcneill]

Funny, a decommisioned OHP was just sunk as a training target in RIMPAC

[@robertturosik416]

Oliver Hazard Perry, won the battle of Lake Erie on September 10th 1813. You can check out both monuments and museums in Erie Pa ( where the fleet was built) or on put in bay Ohio (where the battle took place) In Erie Pa you can go on board the US brig Niagara a replica of the war ship that won the battle. Very cool stuff!!!!!

[@donniemontoya9300]

I work on MH-60R which is the modern variant of the SH-60B. These days we deploy on the Arleigh Burke's but it's awesome to see "bravos" in a game representing L.A.M.P.S. like this.

[@luigirota7964]

That submarine is a very thought dodger (the first)

[@tonyml88]

Watching you is a master class in Cold Waters. Great videos. Great mod

[@lightbird27]

That humpack has no idea what's going on 🤣

[@sloppydog4831]

This is a great throwback to Dangerous Waters Oliver Hazard Perry missions.

[@crazywarriorscatfan9061]

It's SINKEX but the OHP is firing back

[@Wolfpack345]

Haha

[@ramal5708]

The Nixie would also save your life against one single torpedo, just tow it at full length turn it on, make 90 degrees turn while the torp is close to you

[@thefamilydogs3213]

Start campaigns with top water vessels!

[@luigirota7964]

The last submarine is a big one

[@apel39]

Thanks for alerting me to the new version wolf. It was in the middle of the night but I had to try it. I am home alone with Covid. And dot mods new version. What else to wish for? 😜

[@Urkinorobitch]

The frigate gameplay was what I enjoyed the most from Dangerous Waters.

[@avva4090]

Oh wow, I'm so happy I've checked your channel again. Your content inspired me to buy the game, but I was really wishing I could control surface/air vehicles. And would you look at that?? The stoke returns...

[@inside98]

Pretty awesome! Are they still limited to assets that are already in the game? If no, I could totally see how someone figures out how to make carriers work.

[@sparda169leon]

O M G Chills down my spine

[@drtidrow]

I think the biggest limitation is that it's just you (one ship/boat) against multiple enemies - in real life, an OHP wouldn't be by itself, it'd be part of a task force of at least three ships that can back each other up. Most likely that can't be changed without modifying the game source code.

[@inside98]

@@drtidrow Friendlies will probably never be a thing. Cold waters is more game than simulation. I could totally see a single carrier, especially the Russian ones working in solo missions.

[@PurpleDuckization]

Love this, I think with the addition of aircraft all that it is missing is the ability to plot geometric shapes. I Think if they did that then this "game" could be a super valuable training tool for the navy.

[@rickfunny3583]

I watched all your Cold Waters episodes and enjoyed them all. Besides I increased my skills by doing so. Thanks for all your efforts!

[@e.kent.d9561]

Never expected anything this good. NICE!

[@maximilianbachler3541]

Can't wait for the Moskva, if it will be playable

[@ianmacvittie8243]

Wolf, you ever hear of a game called Carrier Command 2? It might be a bit too arcade-y for you but my friends and I love it. The helo-launched torps reminded me of how I fight enemy ships in that game.

[@ThaShaydeeSaint]

I've been waiting for you to post a vid before I redownload the game and mod and try it out.

[@nickpDK]

what this game needs is freindly ships so it could be a 2 vs 2 combat, everytime i make a battle its always all vs me :(

[@joshuajames2832]

Love to see player controlled planes next

[@snigie1]

Sonar bouys and dipping sonar will be helpful!

[@iyaoyas2969]

What the hell did they put in the Bug Juice? As a former USN Aviation Ordnancemen, I can safely say that those HS squadron Ordies who can reload two MK 46/MK 50/MK 54 torps that quickly must be "juiced" themselves. On a serious note, the mod devs should look into placing some sort of countdown timer on the Seahawks loading time. No biggie if they can't though.

[@KA-rp5uh]

i spent some time on the ffg vandegrift and barfed in the gyro room. next time launch a torpedo at the hump back whale. Thanks.

[@noop1111]

Get to the choppa!

[@monkey0427]

Helicopters! That is an awesome addition to the game! Love the content man keep it up.

[@MrSNAKEBITE666]

Hi there just watched the first 5 videos back to back in your cold waters surface combat episodes have got 4 videos in it left have loved all so far great gameplay I played cold waters when it first came out I didn't no about this mod will be downloading it has soon as I can keep up the great work 👍

[@FinnishJager]

intense action

[@Wolfpack345]

Thank you sir

[@shmeckle666]

God damn I love the mods for cold waters lmao

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

Neato. I'm very impressed with the AI.

[@beaverdam1199]

Love cold waters, and dot mod!

[@StevenMRA]

Wow - that was awesome. You're a fun player to watch.

[@simonhawker9277]

is the toad array a string of frogs tied together?

[@nickthx1138]

Nice one again, loving the asw as always!

[@jovanblackman2608]

Whoever is the modder was reading my mind... Put it on all the ships that can carry a helicopter asap especially the Arleigh Burke

[@larryphilipp1761]

Oh if only it was ship to ship with helicopters oh amazing content that would be wolf

[@papatango2362]

Man the Akula should have died after 2 or 3 torpedoes. That’s why I say put MK48 for surface ships and aircraft.

[@mr.unkreativ]

Great Video like always! Can you do the Moskva Helicopter Carrier next please?

[@LuisHenrique-cl7jb]

It's like a titan battle.

[@mark10test3]

Dangerous Waters Sim let you do this in 04.

[@hogandonahue9598]

Jeez those things were torpedo proof

[@KarolGrom92]

Now we need control of the bear and this game is going to be perfect

[@cihanvatansever2072]

So much fun to watch it !

[@dixievfd55]

In this timeline, Marco Ramius intended to start WWIII. The Soviet Union warned NATO in time.

[@subjectc7505]

This a pretty cool update

[@markmastenbroek8959]

Great video again, Friend!!!

[@JETFOURLITRE]

That rotor blade droop kills me.

[@BaronVonCatipeen]

I'm still having a little trouble with surface ships and dealing with ai surface ships, it just becomes a weird missle chucking fest seeing who defeats who's anti missile system first

[@hawkeye5955]

It's a frantic mix of launching your missiles against surface ships and incoming missiles while at the same time zigzag and spamming chaff.

[@H.Witcher]

Anyone knows how many weapons the Seahawk carries on board the Arleigh Burke? Although the Arleigh B carries 2 helicopters, it appears they share the same limited armaments.

[@navalenthusiast809]

Same I experienced with Moskva early, 18 helicopters but very few torpedoes

[@arthurcrego8297]

Great job loved it.

[@IAMGUAMCPA]

Shows how weak the current AI is for enemy surface ships/subs compared to the human mind :). Can you imagine fighting a wolfpack AI controlled ship with a player controlled sub?

[@rodrigogoncalves6165]

I miss Wolfpacks masterpiece: Silent Hunter. I wish someone would develop a sub sim but with italian or japanese subs. Or even with the french Sourcouf

[@joeancinec]

One of my favorites yet keep em coming sir.

[@SJkopa]

wow!! real graphics good!!

[@Burkutace27]

No one beats the hammer

[@Joe091680]

I'm hoping they add sono bouys and dipping sonar.

[@bowenyu4088]

I mean, DOT Mod's from red deck to green deck to take off time is like .01 second...absolutely BS I call it.

[@luigirota7964]

Wot we have the tota rail and 2 elicopters?!

[@imamage]

hi Wolfpack , War on the Sea have just released a new update include Iowa class battleship and Essex class CV (IJN have kamikaze plane) , I wonder if you will go revisit the updated game anytime ?? Thanks !

[@hades1890]

Love how the music and coms chatter is from Dangerous waters loved using the Oliver a most beautiful ship did notice a slight problem with her UH-60 seahawks the rear landing leg is completely wrong but egh. I also wouldn't be going flank speed not when engaging an Akula and a typhoon the Kilo is not much of a challenge their more of an economy ballistic submarine, I would have had my decoy out and active never can be too careful, at the point the Akula took two hits it should have gone deep and ran. Realistically you shoved two torpedoes into its aft it should have been dead from that, since the Akula blew ballast I would have a harpoon ready and on the deck to spike her if she surfaced didn't need to though since you got lucky with the third hit. The wake homing torpedo was too deep and too far to catch so lucky that I would have fired it on an estimated interception course and a sonar snake on an intercept course either one or the other would hit

[@iburpnfart]

When/where can I get ahold of this. Never was one for sea war games but this really peaks my interest.

[@Zulgurub]

Those subs seem unusually resilient. I know they use the reserve batteries as armor but come on…

[@DerLoladin]

The Akula is a huge attack submarine and the Mk.50s are pretty small torpedoes. The game balances lethality not necessarily around realism but solely around warhead size.

[@Zulgurub]

@@DerLoladin I know, I wish they balanced around realism though. Or at least make flooding a real threat/problem. Going high speed with damage should cause additional damage to your boat. Ala the sub with a junked sail in Red Storm Rising

[@bobkohl6779]

Wait till you try an Alpha. Seen Typhoon take 3 AdCaps. Mark 50s aren't that good