The NBA's Biggest “What If” of this Century 💔 | The Panel

[@PlayersChoiceShow]

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[@NeoSpartacus17]

It's so tiring hearing ppl try convincing themselves the Cavs would've beat the Rockets in 18. They can't even give any logical reason, like matchups, schemes or even CP3's injury timeline (probably would've returned game 3). It's just "wEll lEbRoN wAs gOd aNd hArDeN & cP3 aRe cHoKeRs sO..." They were still beating the Warriors when CP3 & Harden weren't making shots cuz of how good their defense was. LeBron could've been hunting Capela and avg 35/10/8 on 65%TS and still get destroyed cuz of how bad the Cavs defense was. Not to mention the shooting variance the Rockets would've had in the finals if they weren't cheated. Shot 7/44 from 3 in game 7 and still should've won.

[@spaceship5786]

right lebron wouldve prob been crazy but like bron offense aint the issue(unless his 3 aint falling) but their defense is

[@roronoaDzoro1111]

Is there any logical reasoning as to why the raptors and Celtics lost to that cavs team This ain’t mathsketball

[@hoesmad3450]

@@roronoaDzoro1111 yes, celtics aint have kyrie or hayward that whole series, and derozan been a playoff dropper his whole career that couldn't defend or pass at the time.

[@rohangupte3545]

Facts imma Lebron fan but the Rockets would have destroyed the Cavs . That Cavs team apart from Lebron was an abomination plus Harden and CP would have destroyed George Hill and JR Smith

[@KoolAidSA]

10/10 promo by chill with feet up. He taught the rock everything he knows

[@Breakbread1334]

W panel today. We got a roast session between Swipa and Haze. And chill crashing out on the chat

[@ChiBullsCentral]

Random roast sessions are the best

[@KThree313]

Y’all going crazy rn with these topics man, i love it.

[@FinesseGod212]

Marz be ready to do tricks on Nash😂

[@MarzTalksSports]

absolutely

[@nykareem2001]

What if marz had good takes

[@MOE__]

Marz has good takes

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@nykareem2001 Major what if

[@ChiBullsCentral]

Damn man why you coming at Marz

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@ChiBullsCentral he my biggest hater dw ab it this how it goes

[@4598-c9l]

For that to happen marz would need to recognise that winning championships matters alot more than he thinks it does

[@Doggydogworld289]

Embiid and Tatum easily most hated on the panel Embiid is 1st id say only person who likes him is marz Tatum atleast has chill and ox Best pr is jokic

[@quentinfaison2826]

I would say Julius Randle is the most hated

[@GSR-Indictment]

@@quentinfaison2826. Nah!…Ox & Especially Chill Loves him!…

[@MOE__]

W 2018 Harden the rockets would have beaten the Cavs that year in the finals

[@Matthew-xl5bc]

Rockets would be the Cavs in 5 games

[@spaceship5786]

idk how the cavs even have a chance unless bron drop 75 points and everyone shoots 40% from 3

[@upgradeyourmindset3265]

If there was no 3-point line it wouldn't necessarily make guys like Steph unplayable but it would lessen his value. It would be a big man's game again Steph would have to resort to being a spot up shooter when the defense doubles on the post. Its not that complicated

[@Reuben_LeRoy]

That Chil crash out is legendary😂😂

[@epicnessbeyond4834]

18 Rockets woulda fried the Cavs. 18 Cavs were a horrendous defense. Lebron would average 35-40 ppg in that series and lose in 5

[@Atlas-BasketballAstrologist]

Damn Haize could definitely turn himself into a rotation player on the panel. That was some good shit 😂😂

[@ChiBullsCentral]

Appreciate that fam

[@howitzdone8992]

We not about to lie and act like ppl weren’t saying the Cavs was gonna win in 17

[@esleyb7968]

I mean that was lebron super fans saying that stuff man, no else thought they were gonna win. The odds before game 1 where -270 warriors and after game 1 it went to -700 warriors. Literally every non lebron Stan thought the warriors would win.

[@RayLass]

​@esleyb7968 Facts I'm one of the lebron fans that knew the cavs were gonna lose. I'm mean they barely beat the team without KD

[@howitzdone8992]

@@esleyb7968 either u underestimate how many ppl who watch the nba are bron fans 😂 and no real person would ever say the 18 Cavs would beat the rockets but I just heard multiple say it

[@mb01031]

Marz face during the chill town crash out 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

[@rashonduswashington4025]

As a Cavs fan we getting cooked by the 18 rockets that team was ass😭😭

[@howitzdone8992]

2k16 curry literally broke the game 😂

[@kingofcomments1917]

Bruh the rockets would’ve smacked the Cavs stop playing . So warriors lose to the rockets team but the Cavs beat the rockets ? . They go toe to toe with the greatest offensive team ever. And lose to Lebron and Kevin love ?

[@Pradyumna3008]

I don't understand this though if rockets beat warriors who swept leborn but chill thinks leborn is winning like yee he might a game at most but what the hell thinking he would just beat rockets like they were garbage

[@RIDGEMATIC]

Chris Paul was MVP in that 2018 season. AMAZING Magnum Opus

[@TheTakeOver42]

The reason nobody slandered Chris Bosh is because Chris Bosh never claimed to be the greatest of all time the greatest of all time label has standards that come with that you get critique differently when you put that label on yourself so if you claim to be the greatest you going to get critique and Chris by said he was the greatest then he would have got slandered for joining a super team

[@notbrandxnn]

glad we're finally addressing the Jayson Tatum hate 🙏🏾

[@MegaKhalid121]

Legendary Chill rant right here

[@Drummajortsu]

“SO…he was still in his prime ?” That Jon Wall take is classic KZbin sports talk. Everyone shouldn’t speak on sports or have a microphone.

[@PrinceDJj]

My what-ifs are: - Kobe Bryant going on another three-peat. - Kobe Bryant not tearing both of his Achilles tendons. - Kevin Durant not getting hurt in 2019 and staying with the Warriors. - Kobe and LeBron teaming up; what would it look like?

[@trevon444]

2k 21 giannis was unstoppable. The defence was elite and his slashing was so fucking broken.

[@howitzdone8992]

Saying the Cavs would beat the rockets in 18 is just pure stupidity 😂 we lose in 7 to Gsw with us going on a historic streak of missing looks we usually make and get cheated by the refs but we gone lose to the Cavs😂, can’t make this shit up

[@boombenjamin92]

Penny Hardaway, Amare Stoudemire, Steve Francis, Baron Davis, Gilbert Arenas, Deron Williams, Shawn Kemp weight, Larry Johnson, Danny Granger, DeMarcus Cousins, Andrew Bynum went ghost, Chris Jackson aka Mahmoud was blackballed in 90s, Alonzo Mourning a legend but injury his resume and stats would be bigger, Yao Ming injuries, Josh Howard after injuries and smoking, Michael Redd, Ben Gordon, Monta Ellis never signed after Pacers stint, Dion Waiters not signed right now, etc. Marbury and Iverson stubborn egos.

[@certifiedchaos4643]

What if dwade’s knee don’t give out. Heat probably win two more

[@abtocool6350]

Finally somebody brings up the fact that kyrie was doubled and blitzed that entire okc series. Even in isolation at times with a matchup with Isaiah joe or someone else they would just run somebody at him. On social media everyone says he underperformed against them without providing context.

[@MarzTalksSports]

i like to do this lil thing called watching the games

[@bobridges]

Grant hill not getting hurt with Tracy in Orlando

[@theprophet9656]

I like when marz breaks down the career or playoffs series in depth

[@matthewburke5044]

If dion beat mars or pirate, or someone who can really debate basketball, it's so obvious it's set up.

[@Natax99Final]

PC just give us that Chill vs Buddie showdown already 😂😂😂

[@omniboy-prime]

People forgets that mj played in 95 snd didn't get to the finals. The magic did. He was playing great until they lost to shaq and all of the sudden he was playing bad. The fact you forgot on the podcast when you know it is a clear example of the media protecting mj.

[@ginobrown6386]

The beginning of the end lol

[@brandonhagin]

What if they let the cp3 trade happen to go play with kobe and dwight

[@MAMBAGAMER824]

What app or streaming services do you use to make this content ?

[@MarzTalksSports]

streamyard

[@shamarclarke6704]

Marz be glassing Steve Nash

[@therealdjsteady]

LeBron on NBA live 06 when they had special attributes He was the player with dribble skills but could you the power symbol 😅

[@brando405okc]

Yea that lost really got to chills head 🤣🤣🤣

[@DameFreshTV]

Haize included was crazy Swipa 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@zakeyoushouston5644]

When did chill crash out on the chat 😭😭

[@1227weaverb]

Imo that 2018 finals would’ve probably looked like the 2015 finals if the Rockets survived that G7. If CP3 would’ve been out for that series then people would’ve really picked against Houston 😂😂

[@MegaKhalid121]

When CP3 tore his meniscus in 2010, It completely changed his game. If that never happened he would be a top 4 player of the 2010s

[@andregardiner3071]

He would still be worse than Lebron, Kawhi, KD and Steph

[@Ebonyinvasionpart2]

@@andregardiner3071Harden, AD, and Giannis would be better as well 😅

[@MegaKhalid121]

@@andregardiner3071 Dawg CP3 even with all the injuries better than Kawhi

[@GSR-Indictment]

Shout Out to @MarzTalksSports & @Piratemccall for Representing!…They’ve Both Been My 2 Favourite Panelist Since their Debut Appearances on Players Choice!…Because of their Basketball Knowledge & Understanding, Thorough Research, Excellent Arguing Points, Apreciation of ALL Eras, & OfCourse the Humor is a Bonus!…Great Jobs Niggas!…😭🤣😭Yes, Pirate, U too!…but Hurry & get Ur @$$ Back as a Panelist, We Need Real Hoop Talk!…See U Both in the Finals!…Jalen Green vs Wilt Chamberlain!…Have Y’all Tell it, They Both Better than Jordan!…😭🤣😭

[@piratemccall]

Thanks bro, very kind words 🙏 Glad you've enjoyed 🤙

[@GSR-Indictment]

@@piratemccall Seriously!…Join the Panel!…It’s ONLY Us Black Guys!…😭🤣😭

[@piratemccall]

​@@GSR-IndictmentThat's the thing, bro. I'm a virulent racist. And, anyway, Swipa grabbed the token white guy spot during my retirement 😭

[@GSR-Indictment]

@@piratemccall He’s Definitely the White Guy & a Culture Vulture!…He Takes Bachata Lessons!…😭🤣😭

[@trytv7716]

The most unstoppable player on any 2K is LEBRON when he played for the Heat THANK TOU MARZ

[@GSR-Indictment]

The Biggest “What If” Scenario was CP3 to the Lakers, joining Kobe & Dwight!… The Biggest “What If” Players, as in who would have the Best Careers!…Stars Represent the Number of Missed Projected Championships!… 1)Kawhi Leonard* 2)Brandon Roy** 3)Deron Williams** 4Tied)Joel Embiid 4Tied)DeMarcus Cousins* 5)Grant Hil 6)Penny Hardaway 7)Yao Ming* 8)Derrick Rose* 9)Brook Lopez** 10)Amar’e Stoudemire Honourable Mentions; Paul George, Gilbert Arenas, Andrew Bynum, Shawn Kemp, Blake Griffin, Ben Gordon, Josh Howard, Michael Redd & Jabari Parker!…

[@piratemccall]

Nice list, bro... But, you left off one of the biggest what ifs of all time... A world class player who missed out on a potential dynasty and rewriting NBA history as we know it...

[@GSR-Indictment]

@@piratemccall Fill Me in who is it?…Bernard King, Ralph Sampson?…They Literally Now ONLY Popped in My Head Now that U Made Me Think a little!…

[@piratemccall]

@@GSR-Indictment Big Red. Bill Walton. Look into that Blazers team. Youngest championship team. Well on their way to a repeat in '78 with the #1 SRS. Walton would be in the top 5 centers of all time convo if he had a long healthy career.

[@GSR-Indictment]

@@piratemccall Yea I Love Bill, Forgot him too!…but how was the Blazers a Dynasty?…2 isn’t Enough & I don’t Remember any Other Relevant Star Talent on that Roster!…Who am I OverLooking?…

[@GQ127]

B Roy by far he was the truth and had the killer in him

[@Ebonyinvasionpart2]

That’s too bad

[@PyrexWipper_]

Chill lowkey not understanding the 3 pt line question.. you’d still need the same spacing mfs just wouldn’t be shooting as far away but you still need room for you big fella to operate

[@GSR-Indictment]

I Personally don’t Respect Ring Chasing!…Especially when Done by Star Players!…Whether they gonna B’ a Star Player on a SuperTeam or Accepting & Playing a Smaller Role!…That’s Because Ur Literally Lying & Fraudulently Changing the Perception of Ur Career & Legacy!…Yes, U were an Individual SuperStar or ALL-Star for Ur Career, but U could NEVER get it Done!…ALL of a Sudden U Join with ALL these Other Stars or the Expected Favourites!…This Eliminates the Challenge, Diminishes the Competitiveness!…U Shouldn’t Stop Trying to Win, but don’t Ring Chase!…Dirk NEVER Stopped Trying to Win, but he NEVER Ring Chased!…Same for Jason Kidd, Chauncey Billups, Gerald Wallace, Brook Lopez!…They didn’t just Jump on the Best Team & Hope for a Chip, but they ALL went to Different Teams at the End of their Career Trying to Form Contenders!…Shame on the Bandwagoner!…Shame!…

[@moneyman4740]

Marz a liar , how has he said on many occasions “i didnt watch the NBA until 2017 KD’s 1st szn in GS “ then say he knew Okafor would not pan out ? Okafor came in 2015 , 2 years before he claims he started watching ? Keep believing his lies

[@MarzTalksSports]

U only just realised im a liar? this aint new

[@moneyman4740]

@@MarzTalksSports atleast u admitted to it , u know ball tho which makes u extremely believable 😂

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@moneyman4740 i be lying ab the timeline of me watching basketball all the time

[@farhansarkar2394]

@@MarzTalksSportsyou had me convinced you use to play football in Spain ngl

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@farhansarkar2394 wild

[@tdgbino3895]

2k14 clippers was my team and I gave everyone problems with Jamal Crawford

[@edwardclark316]

I will Definitely love to step in the ring with anyone of ya tbh 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@rowdyrowdy402]

Swipa saaaaaaaaaaaaalty lmao😂😂😂😂😂

[@svnemgmt8919]

What if Len Bias never passed away..

[@alieujalloh2159]

What if kawhi had an healthy carreer

[@Sacredix]

Nets win in 2021 they back-to-back champs or 3 peat. James Harden stays after 2021. KD don't get injured against the raptors they win again.

[@matthewburke5044]

If chill lost to dion, it just shows how set up this show was. At no point in dions life can he debate with chill or half the guys.

[@johngurraj1294]

100 dollar super chat n barely respond to it, poor guy waste of his money

[@MarzTalksSports]

arch will be ight

[@imbetter14]

Arch rich asf

[@TheTakeOver42]

😂😂😂😂 still mad big mad😂😂

[@MOE__]

W show W Marz w Harden & L Dion

[@ChiBullsCentral]

Moe what did Dion do to you lol

[@MOE__]

@@ChiBullsCentral nothing he’s a Bron fan and I hate Lebron that’s pretty much it

[@WonderZZZ]

@@MOE__ why do you hate bron

[@MOE__]

@@WonderZZZ I can’t give you a reason but I’m the biggest Bron hater ever

[@ChiBullsCentral]

@@MOE__ That's fair then I def understand lol

[@donaldf9055]

Wait, so in 2019, harden was right 😂 he literally was run and dunk man 😭😭

[@MarzTalksSports]

highkey

[@donaldf9055]

@@MarzTalksSports 😂 and people were hating on harden man smh

[@camrunco]

Is chill not paying attention to what yall are saying 🤣

[@kingofcomments1917]

What if James harden doesn’t leave ?

[@SmootchieWallace-vl7wd]

IT'S INSANE HOW CHILL SAYS HE LIVES IN THEIR HEAD RENT FREE, WHEN HE'S THE ONE CONSTANTLY CRASHING OUT ON 5 MIN RANTS ABOUT THEM. And does it randomly cuz he's constantly watching the chat😂🙄 shit is cringe and annoying and it derails the show. Stfu

[@nykareem2001]

Did your dad ever come home?

[@SmootchieWallace-vl7wd]

@@nykareem2001 funny. Doesn't defeat my argument. Do that please

[@bigcharc]

if the people he talking bout don’t mention him in the chat, he wouldn’t respond because there’s nothing to respond to

[@SmootchieWallace-vl7wd]

@bigcharc yeah but he be crying while tryna say he don't care and he derails the show. Shit annoying

[@Zay0321]

Chill doesn’t bring them up outta nowhere, they are constantly trolling him and talking about only him for hours and hours. A lot of people would do the same

[@tdgbino3895]

Biggest what ifs is kevin not going to gsw. Ya think bro winning more rings??

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Dion beat Haize the Kg Melo and the Ant Book debate

[@ChiBullsCentral]

That's laughable

[@MOE__]

@@itszaaaamzeh Dion lost fair and square he don’t know ball y’all hype him up cause he’s a bron fan

[@itszaaaamzeh]

@@ChiBullsCentral you was getting off a bunch of nonsense in the Book Anthony Edwards debate. The KG/Melo one on the surface might lean your way but I think Dion's argument was closer to the topic.

[@itszaaaamzeh]

@@MOE__ Dion was cooking the whole PCL y'all gotta learn to get impartial ears

[@MOE__]

@@itszaaaamzeh if he was cooking why did he not win? That man don’t know shit about ball he’s bronsexual as well that another reason I had Haize winning

[@javon1134]

Cavs beating the Rockets fasho. No ball movement like the warriors. Bron beating them

[@BlkStar99]

Yall that talk about Bron like he can beat all time rosters by himself then say he has no help when he loses. Houston is frying the Cavs.

[@matthewburke5044]

Swiper that's pass interference in any world.

[@julianlugo7644]

Who the best hooper on the panel?

[@MarzTalksSports]

me

[@GSR-Indictment]

1)Dell 2)Ron 3)Shaq 4)Ticket TV 5)Chill OfCourse this is in their Primes!….

[@imbetter14]

​@@GSR-Indictmentdang ox not even on the list

[@GSR-Indictment]

@@imbetter14 At their Best No, but Right Now, he would B’ where Ticket at!…

[@piratemccall]

​@@GSR-Indictment Daaaaaaamn, you must not know my game... 6'1" Charles Barkley.

[@tdgbino3895]

Best player in 2k was lebron not to be biased but he was literally unstoppable if you drive his passing he had fast passes and dimer was like gold and if you learned to shoot with his jumper? Bro.

[@theofficialonce]

I came to support Chill today........but did he really lose to Dion? are you serious?

[@MarzTalksSports]

u aint come to support

[@theofficialonce]

@@MarzTalksSports damn, you felt the hate through the screen didn't you?

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@theofficialonce it was oozing thru

[@theofficialonce]

@@MarzTalksSports Nah, oozing is nuts😂😂

[@ktdottfc]

What if huncho had a dad?

[@Deebotrae]

But he did retire and thats how it was written

[@Jalen-sm1op]

Chill on chill before gang nem slide He cool ppl

[@MarzTalksSports]

Biggest what if is what if i was josh christopher

[@MOE__]

W

[@spaceship5786]

the clip would be legendary

[@GSR-Indictment]

Shout Out to Arch for Submitting those $100 SuperChats & for Coming Up with the Tag, Lord Dion!…That Should B’ Dion from Cleveland’s New Name!…”Lord Dion”, cause that Nigga Diabolical!…

[@GSR-Indictment]

Marz when U said Bob Cousy as the Worst Starter in NBA History, I Spit ALL My Coffee Out!…I’ve NEVER Been More Surprised in My Life!…Had the Best Laugh in a VERY Long Time!…No More Trolling for the Week!…😭🤣😭

[@sportsdawg2298]

HARDEN A PLAYOFF CHOKER JUST EAT IT MARZ NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN HE BEATING LEBRON AND COMPARING WARRIORS AND SPURS TO ROCKETS IS LAUGHABLE

[@brandonpurdy7658]

The biggest what if, iwhat is if Lebron could shoot. He may have 3 more titles.

[@mohamedtunis1603]

Yall just love to lie all the time

[@brandonpurdy7658]

@@mohamedtunis1603 The numbers are the numbers..

[@huhmf4815]

Swiper your wrong bosh was invited melon was the throw on. Just like new York was the place all 3 was to go to but stoudmire fuck that up with $100million contract.

[@SeeingShadows]

2:27:44 why haize on swipa ass

[@executeorder6611]

Steve nash Mavs /suns teams

[@Youngmoneycashmoney]

What if lebron let russ RUN THE POINT

[@rodneyharvey8938]

What if LeBron developed an off ball game

[@Senju_HVM]

Damnchamp

[@clad_diamond]

Embiid is the biggest bum in sports history.

[@Senju_HVM]

47:26

[@Senju_HVM]

2:47:47

[@Senju_HVM]

2:50:55

[@Senju_HVM]

2:50:30

[@ChiBullsCentral]

W show. Chill has had enough of the BS lol

[@howitzdone8992]

Chill always say IK who James harden is 😂 Ik who lebron is anytime he makes the finals without another all nba lvl player he loses Bad

[@howitzdone8992]

This shit is just stupid

[@TheTakeOver42]

What minimum Health that's a lie the only time he made it to the finals with minimum help and he had all stars on that team was in '07 and yes he had all stars But every time since then he's been on a superteam so stop acting like LeBron didn't have any help that's a lie

[@kjo2130]

FULTZ

[@DesirableFame]

Feel like Yao Ming would arguably be better than Hakeem injury free

[@ChiBullsCentral]

That's a wild take but I can see where you're going with it

[@NvrBored]

Chill it’s nvr that serious 😑

[@matthewburke5044]

Lmao chill just as young as them. Chill why acknowledge children???

[@shamarclarke6704]

John wall is not a what if

[@ant_boy_spice4400]

Houston loses to the cavs

[@cooldj9234]

marz is a rocckets and harden glazer sheesh bro we get it you like them

[@MarzTalksSports]

Absolutely

[@Dologaming24]

We all know why George Karl was benching certain players In the playoffs. He hated Melo and was sabotaging that squad.

[@SDTheGhost23]

Ox what if LeBron got drafted by the Lakers. Shaq, Kobe, Bron. That's legendary even though you hate them.

[@OKCTexan]

Haze sad ash clout chasin for what

[@ChiBullsCentral]

I can tell you don't understand what the word clout means. You're just using it because you've heard it be a trend. Explain what "clout" came from this I'll wait.

[@OKCTexan]

@@ChiBullsCentralhoppin on and instantly riding swipe was wild work was like a straight female up there and Ian even like swipe you just corny

[@ChiBullsCentral]

@@OKCTexan instantly lol go back and look remedial dumbass. I came on talking about the PCL I wasn’t even gonna mention Swipa until he brought me up. Talking about female activity you running your mouth and not really paying attention seems vaginal

[@ChiBullsCentral]

@OKCTexan oh so like I thought you couldn't say where the clout was. Also you should probably go back and pay attention more the ONLY reason I even came on the show was he mentioned me and then even when I did come up I focused on the PCL first lol. Damn you don't know words and then on top of that you follow it up with making a dumb incorrect statement. Stop jobbin

[@Dave-o]

What if Russ never got hurt against Houston 😭

[@tdgbino3895]

1:49:58 all time magic defensively was too nasty

[@Jamal-n8r]

This turned to a Lebron convo i can’t do it