Playing EU4 With NO DLCs Was A MISTAKE

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[@Olipakerranoiva]

If you don't have any dlc Exploring is extremely painful since you need to move yor fleet manually if you want to do it

[@naga2113]

Also don't forget your fucking fleet in the middle of the ocean

[@mitchelkvedar674]

@@naga2113 felt😢

[@trevor8726]

@@naga2113 im pretty sure u get increased attrition without dlc cause when i used to play without i would lose half my fleet in the atlantic and the other half on the way back

[@naga2113]

@@trevor8726 yeah I loose all my fleet because of atrition

[@NapoleontheLesser]

Fleets are super annoying without dlc. Having to manually delete and rebuild fleet with new ship versions is mega ludicrous.

[@alexbruni1127]

I’ve never played with any DLC so this is my normal💀

[@thedemonhater7748]

The horror you endure on a daily basis

[@shinyguy3766]

Pirating is free and also moral.

[@ywoisug8845]

​@@shinyguy3766pirate but from where?

[@haroldmcseaside5359]

same

[@AngelMoralesMolina]

Bruuuh,

[@maj.kingkong3004]

Biggest difference when I first got the game with no DLC and tried to play Castile was the exploration and colonization stuff. That is a real pain compared to the game with El Dorado.

[@Kasaaz]

I think you can do one thing that is stronger though. You used to be able to use fleet basing rights to extend your colonial range anyway.

[@3komma141592653]

It is not worth playing a naval nation anyway, since YOU CAN'T UPGRADE YOUR SHIPS, you have to build them everytime if you want them to be up to date. Really Pdx plays a shade game with stuff like that.

[@krankarvolund7771]

Yeah, when I started to play EU 4, I tried to colonize, see the pain it was, and immediately bought El Dorado XD

[@theo-dr2dz]

I play Portugal without DLC's and I think the exploring is not so bad. There are periods that there is not so much to do and you are waiting for manpower to recover (early Portugal is always short on manpower) and truces to expire and in those periods I think it is fun to discover the world. The problem is that as a colonizer, your empire is spread all over the world. There is a lot to keep track of. Remember where the transport fleets are. Remember where the battle fleets are. Ferrying armies from South America to Africa and Asia and back because you can't have sizeable armies everywhere and you do need them everywhere to fight Inca's, Africans and the Asian empires. And the constant rebellions all over the world. And in between you need to rermember to periodically improve relations with the Spanish. My last game got wrecked because suddenly, after centuries of alliance, the Spanish backstabbed me. And for some reason they just slaughtered my armies. I have same military tech, better general, more troops, couple of quality ideas and still they just destroyed me. No idea why. And without DLC's there are no trade companies, so everything in the old world is direct rule. So government capacity is a thing. There are still ideas that improve trade companies so those are a total waste of points. You still need to take them to get to the next. Another thing: I believe that with some DLC you can instruct your allies to target some area in war. Without DLC you are totally dependent on the AI and AI allies are not very smart. Imagine you are playing Castile, you ally Austria and fight France and their minor allies. Now if Austria would ignore the minors and just attack France from one side and Castile attacks from the other side, it is not so difficult. But if the AI Austrians waste their time sieging dowm minor allies while the French invade Castile and destroy the Castillian armies, it does become difficult. You can't really coordinate. I guess that with DLC that is still far from perfect, but what I see on youtube suggests that it is better than without.

[@denizutkukahraman1711]

Fun fact: Increase development was a dlc feature in Common Sense But later they made it a free feature

[@CSDragon]

25:55 "not a lot of interesting things on the map" mouses over blue Scotland

[@rowanmales3430]

Not being able to disinherit heirs is ultra pain that you missed out on.

[@rimanpele]

whats the point on playing a game where you cant kill babies?

[@fildafernandes4366]

Basically Eu4 but painful mode

[@nrbmemes2414]

Making your heir a general and then sending him into 15k stacks with 1k infantry is the strat

[@watermocules7735]

​@@nrbmemes2414can't you just use a cog drown them

[@zoetje9817]

@@watermocules7735neither helps. The army dies, the general survives.

[@crabieralloy51]

Despite how painful this was without the DLCs, it was actually quite fun to see you play a sorta normal campaign once in a while. I hope we see more of this in the future once Domination drops. You haven't streamed in a while, but I really liked seeing the VODs. The PAIN moment is playing 1.1

[@nwahnerevar9398]

"Soyface Red Hawk isn't real, he can't hurt you" This video's thumbnail:

[@thavis3116]

I feel like that DLC's shouldn't add universal mechanics like upgrade his centers of trades or every quality of life feature option like for army etc... I feel like they must be here only to add content about specific country and mechanic about theses countries but not universal mechanics like that... They must be part of the base game... Idk if I'm the only one thinking that. I don't event know if what I said make sense to you x) But yeah, I don't like this DLC politic. I really don't mind features for countrys being part of DLC but it shouldn't be the case for universal mechanics...

[@hostomelhorsehoarder]

its even worse now, because you get a notification to upgrade it even if you cant cos no dlc. I spent 25 minutes scratching my head just to learn you need DLC

[@3komma141592653]

The difference is bigger when you play a small nation when you really need a feature. For example you want to use favours to break a relationship. Another deal is, if you want to blob hard, you can't upgrade your advisors, you only get level 3, and that's it. Means you miss out a lot of mana points. And on top of that you can't dismiss heirs at all, so if you get a bad one, you got to live with it. All this stuff adds up when you are a less powerful nations. Or when you are a mid size nation, getting war reps from the Ottos or France will carry your economy for the next 10 years. What bothers me the most, those things are barly content, but Pdx does it deliberatly, so you can't follow many guides and you feel somewhat forced to get the DLCs or the Sub at some point.

[@daniel9485]

One thing that I saw was common was declaring wars for your vassals claims which you can’t do without dlc making a lot of guides that used this tactic useless

[@daniel9485]

Also some countries aren’t enjoyable to play without dlc like Russia because they can’t Siberian colonize, and all the mechanics to help you convert the Sunnis.

[@hyperion3145]

It sucks that a lot of DLCs have about 1 or 2 pretty good features and the rest being fluff you probably won't miss. It'd be nice if you could mix and match what features you want.

[@3komma141592653]

@@hyperion3145 Well, they know how to make money, that's why.

[@RK-cj4oc]

You can upgrade advisors? damn i learn new things about this game every day

[@chan-bch.6833]

I've been playing with no dlcs for around 900 hours since I got the game for free on epic and can't afford dlcs nor do I wanna get the subscription. Can say that it isn't that bad if you just never had the dlcs to compare to, you learn to play with the mechanics present in the base game and that's still very expansive and fun to learn. I've recently did a WC without dlcs and it wasn't too tedious. But ofc the dlcs would be massive game changers.

[@edoardofarri2093]

Embrace the black flag

[@johntsintzilonis5169]

Yo download it from a website with all the dlc for free

[@gugfitufi4862]

Used to be like you, then I went privateering and then did I buy the subscription. 10/10, can recommend

[@DarthFhenix55]

No offense, but that's like saying "Eating trash isn't that bad when you don't know real food". This is considering a lot of DLC mechanics should be in base game.

[@youssefbdiri5480]

A pirate's life for me!

[@mrgopnik5964]

I once tried to play Landshut into Bavaria, while following your guide. However without DLCs, you get coalitioned immediately after PUing the other two minors

[@LOL-zu1zr]

Wow someone just took out 2 counts, this is a threat to stability of europe😂

[@unevilGenius]

what do the dlcs change about that?

[@mrgopnik5964]

@@unevilGenius improve with enraged countries, I think

[@ihatebritain3942]

I did the same and it ended up fine, I even went after the rest of then pretty quickly

[@panzergrenadier6551]

Deving was a dlc only thing but it became so integral to future updates that it was pushed to the vanilla game. You still can't dev in subjects without the dlc though (forgot which one adds it)

[@LibertyMonk]

Yeah, Common Sense changed Base Tax to Development, and back then buying dev wasn't mandatory. Then Rights of Man dropped and added Institutions to replace Westernization. Now developing institutions was how you removed tech cost penalties. It took them 9 major patches before they added it to the base game.

[@edim108]

@@LibertyMonk Progress(?) At least with CK3 and more recent updates for EU4 they're a lot better about that sort of stuff, but still...

[@zoetje9817]

Devving is from the Cossacks if I’m not mistaken.

[@terrypennington2519]

@@zoetje9817 Nah it was introduced in Common Sense (which made it pretty much a must buy dlc at the time), but a little later down the line they decided to add devving into the base game, because devving became essential. Cossacks added diplomatic options such as province of interests, as well as public attitude and other QoL stuff.

[@zoetje9817]

@@terrypennington2519 Apologies, you’re right.

[@Kasaaz]

It’s kind of crazy what is considered part of the free updates and what isn’t. Was surprised to see full mission trees, but not the quality of life stuff that isn’t actual mechanical changes.

[@Blackjackwhiskey]

I'd like to see you play some nations aggressively like you just did in this run. Expand quickly and manage resources optimally. Maybe a 150 year challenge or something. Which nations? Maybe picked at random (excluding native nations). This type of game should have a name, like Domination. Or maybe the succession game, like Zlewikk did, changing nations on the same game every 50 years.

[@leonardo-8994]

I agree

[@sytrostormlord3275]

Random Succession could be fun: 1st pick nation as random and play for 50 years, then save. For any next nation: Open new game and pick nation at random, save it's name, then load your game from save and use console to change tags, play for next 50 years and save. If chosen nation doesn't exist in your save - you'll need to pick another one... only exclusions are those factions that are natural successors: brandenburg and teutons can be played as Prussia, if it was formed any minor russian prices can play as Russia, if if was formed both Poland and Lithuania, can play as PLC, if it was formed all Daymio's can play as Japan, if it was formed Castile and Aragon can play as Spain, if it was formed etc.

[@shinythings23]

My first campaign was vanilla eu4 as the ottomans. Increased autonomy everywhere to keep rebels away and had no idea why i didn't have reconquest cb to vassal feed like everyone said

[@Kris-lu1rs]

I played without dlcs for a very long time, so you can imagine the problems I would face when watching your guides! Luckily it wasnt that big of a difference for nations like austria and the old ottoman guide, first time I faces problems was with manchus, and you wanted me to play with the tribute-system and raise those special troops. Honestly, it kinda sucks that so much of the game is locked behind a massive paywall On an unrelated but funny note, in my first eu4 campaign as ottomans I got the 8:52 message, about crusade. I came into eu4 from ck2 where crusades are kinda a big deal, so for a long time I didnt declare war on any european countries and played super passively💀

[@Maggi4932]

Dlc subscription is pretty cheap

[@snipercz1]

imagine buying Paradox dlc´s and not having them all cracked

[@Kris-lu1rs]

Yes its cheap for a short time. Eventually it gets expensive, eventually it would have been better to buy all dlcs and expansions. I dont think its that controversial to say that you shouldnt have to buy so much content for it to work. Eu4 is fun but its not worth $300

[@3komma141592653]

@@Kris-lu1rs What bothers me is, DLC means downloadable content. But stuff like war reparations or dismiss a heir is barely content for me. Paradox deliberatly tries to make the game painful so people are halfway forced to get the DLCs at some point. Or you can't upgrade your ships, how stupid is that.

[@Maggi4932]

@@Kris-lu1rs it costs only a few euros per moth why would you add all of that up

[@MrMustang13]

Dude, I just got DLCs the other day and it’s a completely different experience for me now. I can actually make an empire now. Now I know why the game was completely ridiculous and impossible for me before.

[@ionardlegras]

Very much dislike that so many simple QOL features like the macrobuilder and production buttons are missing without DLCs. Should be mechanics only...

[@Majora1988]

So the farthest you can go back without a DVD is 1.9.2, which is the last patch for Art of War. I would be interested to see you play that one, if only because I think that was both the old rebel system, and before the current fort system. Forts in every province? Pain. You need a code to access it in the BETAs which is EU4R2JvakDKTJ8Cn

[@rogofos]

in total war Warhammer its a common challenge to play skaven with no dlcs, as basically all their good units are in the dlcs I was wondering if there are other strategy games where playing with no dlcs is a challenge at least skaven have their basic mechanics for free

[@DarthFhenix55]

Victoria II without DLCs is like playing a browser game.

[@LOL-zu1zr]

Bruh no weapon teams what do you even get? Moulder units, that’s it?

[@rogofos]

@@LOL-zu1zr moulder, eshin and skryre are dlcs only pestilence and mors are base game and rictus are free dlc you do get rat ogres and globadiers tho

[@Quadrophiniac]

I love your reactions when you realize just how many buttons are missing sometimes. I feel you, I have never played without DLC and everything just feels off

[@JJKubala]

Now try a Horde without razing provinces. ;)

[@3komma141592653]

Try Ming when you have heir with not enough legitimacy, you can't do anything about it, and you just die to rebels.

[@lilysap3964]

Red hawk doesn't know about the community demand to add development and transfer occupation getting added to the base game

[@TheDegan79]

This is the biggest problem I have with paradox. The DLC's should not include quality of life features, just extra flavor and missions. QOL should be free in updates. The functionality of ships is a prime example.

[@wotanvonedelsburg1610]

i agrre. That's why i pirate the DLCs

[@rafaxd8178]

You should play it without DLCs and in one of the earliest versions: ni development, no institutions (fortunately), the mercenaries were just more expensive troops, and every single province is a fort. I remember also when the states had a certain amount of land and you give it to them. It was pretty fun.

[@CSDragon]

"That's a dangerous level of noble influence ...strengthen noble privileges!" bruh

[@gregariousegg]

theres no way, literally last night i went back and rewatches isp's no dlc vids. its always great to look back at how i used to play pdx games lol

[@zubix4256]

I love how he didn't even react to AI France owning the whole of Scotland while England remained untouched

[@hyperion3145]

I feel like AI France is particularly interested in Scotland in most vanilla games. I always see them allied, in a PU, or some other weird shenanigans.

[@radekc659]

I've waited half of this video to see your reaction on the lack of subject's reconquest CB :)

[@TheKlaun9]

I'd love to see a longer, a bit more serious campaign from you at least once, split over a couple of episodes of course. We've all seen and played 1444-1600 a million times, but many don't realize they're missing out on half the game. Maybe encountering some new struggles along the way, optimizing your idea groups which leads to things you never do etc (quantity and trade are illegal ;)) and it's always fun to see people outside their comfort zone. Doesn't need to be a WC since that's a boring grind, but perhaps as an OPM or some more challenging start, become military hegemon or conquer some key cities around the world, reach 10k dev, conquer all of Europe and Asia, reach the end date of the game - something like that

[@miguelpadeiro762]

The docked to be admiral makes sense, idk why whatever dlc that does it allows us to send an admiral on a rowboat to wherever our fleet is on superspeed lol

[@wotanvonedelsburg1610]

yes i like that,, will be reallistic. maybe a mod bring that back.

[@khansahb-o4e]

For the first month I had the game, I played exactly like this before I gave up and got the subscription.

[@shinyguy3766]

I just pirate because i have common sense.

[@khansahb-o4e]

​@@shinyguy3766 I lack technical skills, but I don't lack $5.

[@benjamino9449]

Got all the DLC's from humble bundle for £20🗿 (Thanks Red Hawk)

[@wido4780]

Why not ask Mr. Paradox for his blessing to play the first version?

[@nathanhempel5135]

The many differences between the base game and the game with dlcs are the reason why I would like to see some no-dlc guides. the reality is that no one is doing base game guides althought many only play the game this way

[@derdude6214]

I started playing in 2021 and just now started buying dlc since I haven't had money to spare up until now. Nowadays I buy one or two DLC every once in a while when I got some euros over at the end of the month. DLCs improve the game massively in my opinion. They add so much flavor especially in the diplomatic game.

[@devek1001]

13:20 That's not a DLC thing, it's because the province isn't on the same "continent" as your capital. (quotation marks because some of EU4's continent boundaries are a bit strange, at least between Europe and Asia)

[@LibertyMonk]

You can't play 1.0 easily, but 1.4 (no ironman) is available in the steam beta list. That's when colonial nations were first introduced. I'm honestly glad nothing older than that is available.

[@fa14bi-78]

Well, the Painful things without DLC to me are: -No Vassal Interactions and in late game: Building up your 400 ship fleet every time manually and then selecting the provinces every time so combine the fleet as doing big square selection selects the army. And most Importantly: Taking 4 years of sieging down a max level star fortress and getting that call for piece defuff after having captured a full 3 provinces so late game wars end at like 20%.

[@tempestleeks]

The thing here is, you played the strongest nation in the game. You should try the same thing on an different country, thats not start with 40k troops and just role all over the way they want to go. There will be a huge difference what decisions you can take and have to take. Its not like Im not playing with any dlc's, but I miss some of them tho and and when I compare this now with your videos, I always notice that for example, whether I can activate Ecourage Development in my provinces or not, because I don't have the DLC for it. So youre might seeing the pattern here. But thats what you already said in the video. I would like to see the same type of video, but with an other country, thats way smaller then the ottomans.

[@hostomelhorsehoarder]

Yeah like playing brandenburg or any relatively obscure nation

[@classiclife7204]

Fascinating; thanks Red Hawk. I enjoyed that at around the 15:00 mark, you learn that Art of War (1.7, iirc) is absolutely ESSENTIAL to the game and really should just be in the base game. (Maybe it is now for people who buy the basic game?). Art of War, Common Sense, I would add the two DLCs for colonial. The rest? Not quite so essential. I've been on a 1.30 rollback, feeling that Emperor was a really cool DLC that, despite some initial problems, has proven necessary for HRE and Catholic campaigns. I do NOT like Leviathan with its "world wonders" (or monuments or whatever) and the general trend to pay-to-win-easy, though I did enjoy the African DLC a couple back. (And after I played what I wanted to there, rolled back to 1.30.) I will probably have to keep Domination on - it looks VERY game-changing - and thus will be caught up slightly against my will, but I guess I can just ignore the World Wonders and the Easy-Peasy missions that make the game too simple with power-creep rewards. Sorry for the long post; great vid.

[@LibertyMonk]

Art of War and Common Sense are no longer mandatory, ever since 1.28 when transfer occupation and increase development moved to the base game. They're still really useful DLCs, adding things like government ranks (why he was missing the diplomat), war reps, declaring for vassal's claims, etc. But at least they FINALLY moved transfer occupation and devving the institution to the base game.

[@DarthFhenix55]

@@LibertyMonk Man, how isn't war reparations in the base game? Victoria II has it since AHD, and that was released 4 years before base EU4

[@classiclife7204]

@@LibertyMonk Thanks, wasn't quite sure what had been rolled in.

[@Scitch87]

EU4 campaigns: * are going great for Hawk * Hawk: * turns off all DLCs because he's missing the PAIN! *

[@H4FF]

Lol, transferring troops with boats is buggy even *with* DLC. It's kind of crazy how some of these features we take for granted are all locked behind a paywall, though. A lot of QOL improvements for sure.

[@ashtonjohnston7314]

YES! YES! HE DID IT! HE ACTUALLY DID IT! No more requesting it for A to Z, I'm so happy! Thank you Red!

[@benry007]

Testing updates must be so difficult. Who knows what combinations of dlc's people are using.

[@lusiny7207]

Playing EU4 with NO DLCs Was a MISTAKE Me, a mistake itself: 🗿🍷

[@kingpredator117]

Dont say that king keep you head up and focus 👑

[@wido4780]

Hey, love your vids. Do you think that you will ever become an npc like you did as that one Arabian minor? Like, a side character who has to have the big guys dunk it out while helplessy being stackwiped, occupied and generally just useless?

[@cinnanyan]

There's something you can do in Steam to roll back to older versions of games. No need to have a CD.

[@andrzejnadgirl2029]

Not as back as 1.00 though and game changed massively. Outside of risk of viruses I don't see how that's even an issue. Downlaoding a game you own isn't a piracy and considering that some other people did something like that already just contact them to get a safe copy.

[@StepwaveMusic]

I actually used to play this game without DLC for a long time, and devving provinces were actually a DLC thing; JUST LIKE ESTATES! I'm actually really annoyed that they just added that to the game later, means the reason I bought their DLC was useless in the end.

[@ggwo5492]

I know you don’t like playing full games, but would you consider doing a shorter game play with a later start date to show some of the later age gameplay? I’d love to see how you would deal with the revolutionary aspects, and how that might change your goals or play style.

[@John_1-1_in_Japanese]

When I came back to EU4 after a while, a lot of shit had changed and I admit I felt a little turned off by that. So first thing I did was roll back to the oldest version. Now THAT was a mistake. Scuffed as shit.

[@buddywe4593]

It's a completely different game. I started the game like 3 Months ago, no dlc. Wanted to watch guides, more than half of them don't work cause of mechanics, features, missions and that Dont exist in the Bae game. I bought the dlc bundle and there was and still is just so much to learn.

[@ps-qw1up]

This is basically the "rich mf is being humbled by simple ways" trope

[@mateusziii2067]

I saw that you had problems with transports - it's because you have to manually attach army to ship in army menu

[@ramp597]

i play eu4 using the dlc subscription and sometimes when it expires i have to play without DLC until it renews, it was definitely a huge shock to see so many missing features and basically every country being flavorless. i wonder if people in the future will view the current VIC3 like this

[@_darkblue1688]

i actually got el dorado due to the nation designer and didn't know 'automated' exploring wasn't part of the base game

[@GregorWeyand]

7:31 thats a dangerous level of influence. 7:35 lets go strengthen noble privilege. Nice :D

[@jacklovejoy5290]

25:40 fun fact, Thessaloniki used to have a plurality of its population be Jewish for centuries right through until WW1, and they were a majority until the beginning of the 20th Century

[@MrMajkelon]

Zlewikk played not that long time ago eu 1.0... Pirate Republic is forming!

[@Chuck12312]

there is nothing more painful than doing a beta of the first versions of the game, I still remembered when dlcs like common sense and art of war brought some life and flavour to the game

[@Barista.Nathan]

Having no DLC also used to be a much worse experience because it used to be that developing provinces and all the government mechanics were DLC locked... So honestly the basic game experience is a lot better now than it was say 2 years ago.

[@bytelaw1711]

your reaction to the missing features is exactly like a rich person reacting to a poor person

[@kristjanu444]

I have never played with any DLC either. Currently playing an ironman game. Started as Venice and formed Italy and I think that I can form Roman Empire before the end date. The game is really fun!

[@NikodemHild]

"Playing Eu4 is so annoying without mods, if only there was a way to get them all!" 🏴‍☠️enjoyers : 🗿🗿

[@Kasaaz]

Dhimmi missing is weird because you used to assign provinces manually to estates to deal with that.

[@BartholomewVI]

Does anyone know what to do if your cursor is missing in game? Mine disappears ingame and I thought everyone had this issue but apparently not. I've tried tons of stuff but I don't know how to fix it. Can anyone help?

[@TheRedHawk]

It’s just when I tab out to press record

[@danielduhzgaming3070]

IF you do this again, play as natives in the Americas or in Japan, they have actual mission trees (not that good but playable)

[@MultiAquavita]

Dude, thanks for the video. Yeah, that's ok playing EU4 as Ottomans without DLCs, but try colonising as Portugal.. That's a HUUUGE pain. Colonisation mechanic is unplayable

[@CaliRed1865]

On the other hand, I was able to circumnavigate the earth in 1485 by using fleet basing rights. The negative? You get nothing for it! Hahaha

[@jjmantecon628]

My man is experiencing the pain that us poverty ridden peasants must endure.

[@shinyguy3766]

Pirate life

[@theomegapyrope9715]

involuntarily becoming protestant is peak dlcless eu4

[@h3069]

I swear every "Paradox game with no dlc" is just the best advertisement for Piracy there is.

[@nuri2147]

I remember, I played maybe 200 hours of EUIV with no DLCs. Then I got a couple, then I got everything. The game is so so cursed with no DLC.

[@edim108]

Some countries are borderline unplayable without the DLC. Ming just implodes bc you can't get rid of bad heirs and Hordes can't raise provinces- the one mechanic that makes them so good...

[@Gandalf0110]

So my friends decided to learn to play EU IV recently, but they asked to play with no DLCs... One decided to play Mongolia, other was Muscovy, I played Timurids, and my god was it painful to play...

[@immerda4244]

I like how playing the Ottomans in 1444 feels like playing any Nation but in 1600 xD

[@Barista.Nathan]

Dlc's really Shine for Colonial nations, very weak and small nations, the hre, and East Asia. Try playing an OPM in the Middle East or the hre without DLC. THAT is hell.

[@crocworks]

Let's see Red Hawk play a colonizer without DLCs

[@dvtch]

honey, hawkjak just dropped!

[@rodahlerg9861]

23:53 Base game doesn't have the League War, so there's no restriction for what christian faith can become HRE Emperor

[@nathanrobinson1099]

I remember playing like this way back at launch, without all the updates lol

[@awtizim]

"playing without dlcs is not as painful as i thought it would be" The EU4 game in question: Hungarian-Austria Empire

[@werewolf3945]

No DLCs is a breath of fresh air compared to Age of Civilization

[@HierophanticRose]

I just remember getting happy we got proper text placement on maps and getting sad at the new trade system from Divine Wind to EU4, those were simpler times. Nowadays people wont even look at the face of a country if doesnt have a 10 page MT. Not complaining mind you its great! Screw simpler times give me more granular simular more finicking more flavor more missions more more more, thats why we play Grand Strategy babyyyyyyyyy

[@thepopeofpineapples6275]

Video 22 of asking for an Ireland guide (also turn no DLC into a series, I want to see you suffer through colonization)

[@soumajitsen1395]

16:38 You could have said: "Lights out, the Knights out!"

[@sytrostormlord3275]

@TheRedHawk Developing a province was a DLC thing when i started playing. I've bought my Eu4 copy arround patch 1.18 (Prussia/Rigth's of Men) and was disapointed while playing as Poland and unable to develop any institution at all... Common Sense was required to develop anything... Not sure, when it was changed, but you could imagine me slowly waiting for instututions to spawn... so in order to spawn them quicker -> i've decided to march west and that game ended pretty weird with PLC guaranting ottomans, france and russia, dismantling HRE, who at that time was ruled by... France, which was an OPM somewhere in Westphalia... Allied with Great Britain, who controlled half of new world, with other half being controlled by Spain...who were under PU with PLC...and got integrated after 150+ years of integrating... so... realy weird game... to bad timeline was only a DLC thing back then, because it would be fun to watch it...

[@DapperDonkey]

I played hundreds of hour without dlc. Was fine but now that I have a few I don't know how I did it

[@jdmacdad5418]

Crazy to think that the game is so huge that theres a list of DLC posted as a requirement at this point. I know it's been like that for years, but still.

[@penkere5716]

Ottomans is one of the few nations with a mission tree without dlc. Like olmost every other nation is a pain in the ass to play as.

[@santiagob.1071]

One painful thing you haven’t encountered in your run. You cant transfer provinces during wars to allies. This also applies to the AI so they cant give you provinces while you are in a same war as them. one of the reasons Art of War is a must

[@ccrky]

I have the game but I find it absurd that you need to also buy DLCs to actually have fun, I recommend pirating the DLCs if you are in a similar situation.

[@thenormann3773]

Without Art of War DLC there’s no league war, so anybody can be emperor as long as they’re christian, this also makes the reformation easier to stop or to spread as the “official religion” of the empire is whichever the emperor’s is and he can enforce their religion onto all the nations in the empire before 1550 (or whenever the league war should’ve triggered)

[@peem.p_r3037]

Me who played without dlc for 700 hours : *PAIN* And you should try on asia country near Ming, you will know that the possibilities of survive is not great.

[@SebHaarfagre]

Wool can get 3.13 or so in price, Cattle 3.50 and Wine all the way to 4.50 iirc. Naval supplies can go to 3.50, generally I only build barracks in grain provinces (depending on local production of course) and fish (unless I it's coastal)... stacks so well with Soldier Households (or Impressment Offices in the coastal case) Also yeah without the Reconquest CB, it'll be cheaper to click on the map/demand territory instead of returning provinces :( Oh yeah and doesn't Wine trade bonus give -1 global revolt risk or something?

[@gengarzilla1685]

This is largely why I dislike the concept of DLC's. The more of them you release for one game, the crappier that base game becomes by comparison. I'd rather have a game that'll always feel 100% completed instead of a game that'll feel 50% completed after a few years of paid updates.

[@quaker2636]

Locking quality of life stuff behind dlcs is honestly one of the scummiest things paradox does, it feels like a paid update more than a dlc.

[@amilavxilmen5632]

Yeah I used to play without DLC, it's painful and very difficult

[@FinalGurr]

I feel like having special mechanics and whatnot behind DLC is fine, makes sense, but gosh this made me realize just how many simple QoL things are kept behind DLC which is just utterly ridiculous.

[@heisenstein6392]

"You know, I do like playing with horses - even tho other people don't!" - says the guy who literally kills the horse when he starts a run 🤣👌