Playing Maple Hill with Simon, Disc Prices are Crazy, and Twitter Questions | Grip Locked

[@GripLocked]

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[@JeffWalter-i7k]

thank you for fighting for my freedom in the middle east guys

[@moozie2z]

50:40 Conner has the best takes. He jumps in and always adds the best take. Dudes aren't collecting and trading golf balls, and pickle ball paddles like discs. 100% half sport, half pokemon cards.

[@curlyred83]

Konner*

[@FuckGoogle2]

Don't forget the treasure hunt where the rest of us get to find these overpriced gems in the rough.

[@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf]

As a disc reviewer, the increase in disc prices have really hurt. I normally would do a large trade in at the end of the year to get store credit to do more reviews, but now stores have so much used discs that I can’t trade them in anymore.

[@billcoulter1984]

Love your reviews

[@CheatingLeftyDiscGolf]

@@billcoulter1984 appreciate the support!!!

[@JasonIBasri]

The dap at the end really added a lot for me as a viewer. Good to see the camaraderie

[@DiscGolfKyle]

When I shop for discs, I grab what I need from the stock shelves, then I head to the used racks to see if I can swap any out and save some $. Especially if it’s a new mold to the bag.

[@Rdaug1458]

Behind the pro shop there is a large gravel parking lot. Down the road there is another course called pyramids with a lot more parking and that is where Marshall street is located. Beyond that during the tournament there is a school down the road that they shuttle people between. I’ve been to the tournament the past four years and never had an issue parking.

[@jacob_coleman25]

Stock disc for $33 just won't work

[@nicolaiberg6579]

A Halo Destroyer is almost $50 in some stores here in Denmark.

[@platypus8697]

Jeez. Assuming that’s heavily due to them being imported, are other USA made disc brands like Discraft expensive in Denmark as well?

[@nicolaiberg6579]

@@platypus8697 Esp plastic is around $25-27. I have heard from some of the shop owners, that Innova in perticular are expensive to get in.

[@michaelsimons3529]

It sounds like the mando on hole 1 would help keep the foliage from closing the gap. Thus giving that hole some consistency through the seasons.

[@austinrmoser]

For the disc game, a Mirage would be 0 with flight numbers 3, 4, -3, 0

[@tinncan]

Primers for firearm ammunition went from $17-30/1000 to just about $100 and powder just about doubled... That's why I picked up disc golf. $20 for something I get to keep (most of the time) was a lot cheaper... I'm not buying any of the Supreme or whatever super expensive junk unless it is in the used rack.

[@erichutchins5584]

There is a lot up top (The small one you are referring to), then down past the proshop there is a players parking lot (For MVP open) that fits a bunch, and then there is overflow player and caddie parking further down the path past the lower parking lot (To the left in the woods of Hole 17 Golds tee pad. I believe they also shuttle from downtown for spectators

[@bdracefan]

You have missed the point of the triple mando... it is designed to mimic the covered bridges that used to be common in the northeast. It is not a freaking barn...

[@Matt-dj3tc]

The high disc prices from house of discs is likely to recoup some of the money buying out the other companies

[@Lukeconwaydg]

This disc might be the best for foundation care

[@nathanlangfeldt4514]

I’m unsure why the general is 32.99 on dynamics site, and it’s 29.90 on latitudes site.

[@MrKylebeard]

Do you guys have a course you’ve helped design? If not, would you want to design one? I feel like you guys, Konner too, would do a great job!

[@BlowingByBaskets]

Guys Idk how much yall listen to rap. But I really hope yall can get a giggle out of the new song called grippy. I saw it and instant clicked and laughed along thinking of u guys using it as ur soundtrack for awards. Thanks fellas keep slinging them pods!

[@CalebHanna27]

A PDGA membership gets you a 50% off discount for DGN. That alone adds enough value over the course of the disc golf season, plus if you enjoy playing some tournaments and getting a rating it is well worth it in my opinion

[@jameskinnel2948]

There is a bit more on site parking down a path between the house and pro shop you might not have seen if it wasn't busy enough to need to park there

[@tvgreign9882]

The prices are out of control. I picked up disc golf in 2015 because it was cheap fun.

[@listondavis]

The whole premise of this show is POV: You're a spider interviewing 2 dudes.

[@TheBotchJob]

I think Gavin Rathbun is the most underpaid Pro... He doesn't have a sponsor and has been absolutely shredding this year. I hope he continues on this trajectory and gets what he deserves.

[@Jh36578]

Innova Mirage is 3, 4, -3, 0, so that'd be a 0 in Trevor's trivia!

[@prattacaster]

MVP Spin is 0 as well!!

[@popawheelie7]

Sonic would be a -3 at 1, 2 -4, 0 Any discs that go more in the red?

[@nicklange8484]

The funny thing about the disc golf prices is that spending $19 on a star plastic disc vs $27 for a royal line disc won’t make a significant impact on your game. Mold/flight path of the disc is what matters most in terms of impacting performance. I think companies place a bit too much value on feel in terms of increasing pricing. Feel is subjective, and it’s also funny how when it comes to putters people often prefer base line plastics because they’re more grippy and tacky, but the smoother premium plastic putters cost more.

[@brianpartridge6332]

They park cars in the grass across the street, but also there are shuttles that get people to and from parking locations, they had me park at a local middle school last year. Not the best parking at Maple hill. On site parking sells out quick

[@HacimBricks]

The Innova Mirage would have been a zero in Trevor's game. And fun fact: the Super Dillo gets you all the way to -1

[@jockofthebush]

I can tell you from inside the snowsports product industry that price inflation is getting extreme partly due to rising costs, for sure, but a major factor is random companies popping into the market trying to market either super cheap or super expensive products. Got news for everyone: Unless it is a small niche handmade brand, it's all mostly the same stuff. Consumers are getting raked out there for crap that's either way too cheap and keeps them buying new product every year or way too expensive for something that a core brand could have sold for much cheaper. Those core brands have had to raise their prices significantly to justify that their products are truly the best, when most of the time they are.

[@parkersteddom8734]

i mean dynamic is selling pures in their putter plastic for 22 dollars as well so they are just high in general it seems.

[@JacobPorterLadder]

PDGA does have a partnership with the PowerA Academy for like 2 free lessons

[@johnboltz3591]

Lattitude 64 bite 1/7/-1/0

[@rman713]

My friends tell me my throws look effortless, too… max distance of about 250 💪

[@davedisilvestri2759]

I believe the main reason was because the green of 6 is there on the left. It's separates the green of 1. For people to be

[@taylorthomas4881]

Like it being a double Mando as a thought. I think there would be a lot of shots coming in that are hard to tell if it made the double Mando high. Think triple Mando makes it a bit more conclusive. Slotters could also help with the conclusive as well though

[@zachschreiber5151]

Not everyone cares about whose playing hot some of us just want to watch out fav player. And gate keeper media gave us an extra opportunity to see them. And not having that is a huge bummer.

[@kendallterrelll]

There’s a spider handing them mics

[@evanmarshall3811]

Is the bleep a crystal raptor?

[@MrDong101]

It's Brodie's 1020 rated roach.

[@phillipebutler3796]

definitely some fun debate night questions surrounding a hypothetical world where all disc golf contracts MUST be public (knowing these $500 deals vs. $20k vs. $200k vs. $1M with all clauses public. the implications would be interesting

[@ADamItalian1173]

NGL, i own way too many discs. They used to be top end $18 unless you wanted a limited run or special art. I have wall hangers never thrown and enough to swap each season. Then my regular throwers and backups. Now each year i only buy tour series for compnay/players i support and then wait until black friday and get whatever i need for 50% off or better. If they will sell top end for $12 ill just wait.

[@RyanHourihan-l5x]

Yikun Ling would be a 0, +2 Glide -3 Turn +1 Fade also a great counterpoint to expensive discs

[@Dav963]

We count speed not glide

[@Philip.Eriksson]

Regarding price development, supply and demand, makes most good things expensive

[@randolph_wt]

49:28 y’all didn’t have to call us MA3 dudes out like that, but you’re not wrong…

[@greg_loper]

You could always give a discount for Udisc to PDGA members 😉

[@DOPES4MAGA]

You see that MA3/Pro person in every sport. Golf, the guy with the staff bag, newest ping irons, pro-v1... shanks it in the water on hole 1. Snowboarding/Skiing they are called gapers. Every sport has that person that spends a stupid amount of money, then quits 4 months later. FB Post: Hey guys I am selling all my stuff, because I am just not that into .

[@Naitsirk1]

Guys we need a AB collab video!!

[@ICrankDiscGolf]

When I started bowling a higher performance bowling ball was 165ish with drilling. Now it's like 240ish and that's the last 6 years

[@MrCornaldo]

IMO Smugglers Notch Disc Golf Center is way better than Maple Hill

[@billcoulter1984]

I would sign up for the PDGA if i got to watch live coverage, otherwise it’s a waste of money.

[@payrez540]

I believe overall it’s worse. I very much enjoyed watching Gatekeeper chase card coverage - especially because there were so many winners coming from there last year.

[@flvrcntry]

Late to.the game but 100 with Hunter on post produced. As someone (which is another factor why disc golf will stay a minor sport) who would rather spend free time playing rather that watching DG, I consume all pro coverage through Jomez. Only so many hours in the weekend. Love not watching 3 different cards to see the action. Jomez alone with FPO and MPO can be close to 3 hours per round. Not spending 4 or more watching live and paying for it

[@prattacaster]

Cole Redalen is up there with Simon as far as effortless form vs distance, dude looks like he is throwing a 75 ft upshot off the tee

[@frankrussillo8839]

Trevor always talking over hunter

[@GarrettKobriger]

Facts

[@TDub777]

Usually it's the other way around

[@kingchuckfinley]

Cole Redalen has the most effortless back hand in my opinion. Simon is definitely up there with him though.

[@DonawayKnubz]

No Silas selects? Lest riot boys and gals

[@benmontgomery545]

Plastic prices in some other industries doubled post pandemic. It drove me out of other hobbies.

[@Ziggy-md5ok]

How y’all don’t realize it’s a covered bridge on hole one at maple hill?

[@TurboTapIns]

Innova mirage 3, 4, -3, 0

[@nyqpi33]

The beetle is 1/-1/0 with out using the glide. So that would be 0.

[@Footfaultguy]

Some of us older fans know you can’t wear white after Labor Day, thanks to serial mom! 🤣

[@peanutbutterjelly.7]

West side should be that premium brand not the undercut brand. Dynamic Doo Doo discs should be undercut baseline brand going forward.

[@JaredTG.]

Supreme plastic doesnt make a disc worth $33. I got 2 Judges and a Sokibomb slammer in classic Supreme plastic for $20 each. They are just trying to capitalize on the hype and the marketing push from Ricky and the awesome commercials they've made.

[@DOPES4MAGA]

Hey, Terry Miller doesn't come cheap.

[@QaIeb]

Plz tell Trevor to put the shark back in his bag

[@corbanlunt9862]

Let’s just comment “should have thrown the shark” every time he throws a bad midrange shot

[@Ben-kk6xe]

If you’re willing to spend $33 on a disc I don’t want to hear you complain about pay to play courses anymore. At that price you can pay for a nicer course

[@NoAIBot]

The Pearl puts you at zero and the Sonic puts you at negative for Trevor's game.

[@Rdaug1458]

I remember when disc golf was cheap

[@scottdavis5076]

Didn't Ricky only sign a 4 year deal ?? negotiations are about to heat up 🤔

[@doktorkokkorv]

What the heck is a blble study group?

[@Dav963]

Mirage and Beetle are the only 0 off the top of my head...

[@XRP-MOON]

People are spending way more than this just to get limited stamped discs in the resale market. I don’t think it will make a huge difference

[@user-dz6tx8tc1w]

🤷🤷🤷 everyone forgot the TIME LAPSE 40$ That sold now the majority of the pole says no more then 25$ .. yet all the tour start at 25$ .. A disc will cost more on what was put into it and how long it last . These aren't DX dog chewable discs at 30$ It's a way to actually cut the amount being made who plays the game cause all I see is discs sitting in lakes and thick grass. Animals deer 🦌 goes to lay down eats grass takes a bite of plastic . I say make pro discs 50$ and the true disc golfers will continue to be there while the covid crowd goes back to flooding the bowling alley To be honest theres too much plastic being made its all going to end up in the wrong place like the ocean

[@scottdavis5076]

People with money,will ways buy the most expensive product on the market,always thinking,in some way,it's way better than the others

[@marcoshuerta8661]

There is no disc out there that's worth 30 plus dollars I'm sorry that's crazy

[@kingchuckfinley]

I agree, but there will always be discs worth more to certain people. People value things differently

[@ronjones-6977]

@@kingchuckfinley I've paid $65 (delivered) for original San Marino Rocs. I'm not gonna pay $30 for a disc when there are thousands of them out there. I miss the good old days when I bought a POS out of Jim Oates's trunk for less than $5. I wish I still had that George of the Jungle disc.

[@IamMatthais]

1:05:13 The talk about post production is crazy. You guys are arguing that it’s better to have less post production coverage than before. How is less better? You saying since you don’t always have time to watch 3 cards makes it better, that makes no sense. Having more options and more content from different sources is better. I don’t understand how you could argue against that and all of your arguments for it are nonsense. Yes I agree jomez is the best post production but I still enjoyed watching other production doing a chase card or 3rd car especially if there was a player I wanted to watch or a chase card won. The check ins on jomez don’t tell the whole story.

[@kendallterrelll]

I play about 3-4 times a month and I will not pay more then 25 bucks a month

[@Defy_GhostGuy]

Play it again would sell Nate Sexton Firebirds for $32

[@Matt-dj3tc]

Is the goat the greatest career ever or the best player of all time?

[@Steven-bh2be]

Isn’t Gavin rathhbun is unsponsored? he’s clearly the most underpaid

[@Mdjagg]

I'd pay $33 for that Aluminum Glitch! just like everything in the economy, if it's too expensive,.don't buy it. Can't blame a company for trying. Call it a soft release for the fanboys.

[@calebswing1286]

Innova mirage 3,4,-3,0 = 0

[@Cspeck10]

I enjoyed the discussion on disc cost involving the Sockibomb General. Some additional thoughts I have include. -The general is not a stock disc. It is a disc in Ricky’s line up. Which have been marketed in an elevated way. -They also shot multiple commercials hyping this disc up. -the Royal Line/ Supreme discs have been priced at $28-30. So the jump to $33 is only a $3-$5 jump. Not so crazy. -over all disc golfers are some of the cheapest people. (I can fall into this category too) we will get upset at the slightest up charge. But as you guys mentioned there are multiple price points for similar discs. -ultimately the real test will be how well they sell.

[@GripLocked]

I guess it depends on how you look at stock discs. Would you consider the Luna, Passion, Zeus, etc. stock?

[@Cspeck10]

@@GripLocked all of those discs you mentioned do have a stock stamps that are readily available. But even the Luna in a base plastic is sold for $19.99 which is higher for a base plastic disc. Compare to a stock roach that is $11.99. That is an $8 jump for a McBeth line Disc. On top of that I think DD has been consistent in marketing their Supreme Line as their top tier product. Great feeling plastic with the next edge technology. I guess in my mind I do not consider anything in the Supreme or Royal line to be a stock product. I consider it a cut above. Even if it has a "stock" stamp and is readily available. When you add Ricky's name and branding to that kind of product the price will go up. $33 is steep for me. And I might wait until I get a discount code to snag one. But I am not overly shocked by the price.

[@ollie_bros]

Fierce would've gotten you to zero (2, 3, -2, 0)

[@AndrewRollins-e8g]

Maple hill ? I hope you got to play other course while you were here?

[@DOPES4MAGA]

Yikun sells cheap plastic... there are plenty of Chinese and Asian companies that will make frisbees for cheap. You are forgetting all the X-out molds too, if discs are really that expensive, buy factory seconds, buy x-outs... buy used... I mean there are plenty of options for consumers. The disc manufacturers are not looking out for the retailers.. I can tell you that right now. If it mattered then MVP wouldn't have stopped selling signature series discs to retailers. House of Discs raised their prices because they can. They own how many companies now? 5? This is typical of investment firms which the company that owns House of Discs is. They want to get as much money as possible then once all 5 companies are indistinguishable from one another, they will sell the company and leave the sport worse off for it. All the good people from all the different companies now work directly for HoD, not DD, or Discmania, or Lat64. Their runs will start to be very similar. Then all they have to do is just slap a different name on something oh this is the DD Derp, but also the Dismania Herp. All 80 different plastics and names Fusion, Lucid, C-Line, S-Line, Horizon, Glimmer, Meta... it is all the same plastic and soon to be the same molds. So they will just come out with the same thing and sell it to people. All the 10 year olds that want to throw for Discmania will buy it, then all the people that throw DD will buy it, people that throw Kasta will buy it but at the end of the day it is the same thing just different foils and plastic embossing.

[@triple_five_soul6439]

Speaking of Maple Hill, I was ecstatic when it became playable on DGV, and my first round (and first throws ever) I nearly aced hole 3 (off the basket) and I managed to Eagle 17 with a flex forehand lol. I say this because it's the closest I'll ever be to playing Maple Hill without a shadow of doubt.

[@Philip.Eriksson]

Stop stressing out Johannannanes

[@JaredTG.]

GOAT doesnt mean that they were the best player. It means they accrued the best list of accomplishments. Greatness is a measure of accomplishment. Usually the best players have the most accomplishments but they arent inherently the same thing. Kristen has reached the highest level of skill in the history of the division but she hasn't had the time to rack up a long enough list of accomplishments to rival the players of the past. She's the BOAT.

[@ronjones-6977]

GOAT is the dumbest concept of sports.

[@trib258]

This may be your idea of greatness, but by definition greatness is closer aligned to a degree of skill than a record of accomplishment. The word that would best fit your definition is “successful”.

[@nickreeves3595]

Wild runs already broke down the numbers of how prices have changed with inflation. Not very much. It’s still around the same money wise it was around 5-10 years ago with accounting inflation.

[@erichorn9858]

Guys just look at what clash is doing with the new plastics. Every new thing they do with a plastic gets people amped and they are willing to pay higher to test it.

[@aragoth]

First

[@billcoulter1984]

DTC is starting to gain momentum in ball golf because the cost of clubs and balls has gotten ridiculous. $32 discs will ultimately do the same to disc golf.

[@scottdavis5076]

Sport has a long way to go ,when so many rank that course as the best in the game 🤣🤣

[@jvladcliff4083]

The general looks mid as far as name and graphics not exciting at all. There are many other discs or there that can do the same thing for less and look better.

[@MrDong101]

What's the point of telling you that you forgot the trash? Not much you can do about if from work.

[@shamanschlong]

it's instinctive, this allows you to mentally prepare for the bitching that ensues - in this case for the next week

[@JKryptonite21]

What area runs trash on Memorial Day? It’s a national holiday. City services should be closed.

[@TDub777]

@@JKryptonite21 A lot of trash services are run by private companies who don't care about their employees. That being said, my trash service is private and wasn't collected on Memorial Day, and I'm a little surprised his ran.

[@mattingly8322]

Yall literally.played a bunch with Macbeth....throws from as shit

[@nathanmorgan9111]

It’s not happy Memorial Day and not celebrate Memorial Day. Memorial Day is to remember and memorialize all the men and women who have lost their life serving in the military. Thank you