Playing Monk Feels Broken Compared to Warrior

[@Woolie]

when they said "we fixed melee in PoE2", they really meant "we added the monk class"

[@Tankex91]

Doing eclipse 8 on Chef or Sunder titan Woolie? Whats worse?

[@Noxfrolic]

What is wrong with melee in PoE1?

[@FubzyMC]

​@@Noxfrolic in PoE1 melee is fucked because, no WASD, one shot mechanics, melee based off weapon dmg and basically not gem lvl like casters, cannot attack from a safe distance is the main issue tbh.

[@Jackstrap9]

@@Noxfrolic before the last season it was just way worse than other stuff except for one or two specific skills

[@vjthemad4852]

You can't move when you performing a melee attack, this is so unfair compared to range attacks or spells

[@WardenDios]

"I'm gonna get something really good; watch!" Two more inventory squares appeared in the center of his inventory. That's pretty good.

[@torgor_]

the little grandma "WHAT" gets me everytime

[@orlandomando8486]

Every class feels OP compared to warrior...

[@archangel5361]

Probably not. Both essence drain and bone spells are bad

[@txflood2519]

Warrior is fine, maces are the problem.

[@julianlee5743]

Those are skills and not classes​@@archangel5361

[@scurrx]

@@txflood2519 and armour and life and being force into giants blood

[@IIFaDedII]

@@scurrx Imagine no extra 10% to life on gianst blood and broken armour...

[@DiegoSenge]

I hope they nerf every other class to feel as shitty as warrior

[@WILLTHECANADIAN]

Almost guaranteed warrior is the intended experience

[@destroyermaker]

They seem to hate having a high player count so this would solve that issue perfectly

[@cuto1172]

The Monk in PoE2 is easily one of the most fun classes in any ARPG

[@PaintMasterPoE]

Its not warrior, its mace. The way mace feels like is what GGG wanted game pace to be. But all other weapons look like its still poe1, press 1 button - everything die, you dont think about anything.

[@Cylabaoth]

Honestly it's just phys skills in general, the monk phys skills also fucking suck (except bell obviously but it has huge elemental components)

[@biboulade]

​@@Cylabaoth Daze and build stun with windblast, shattering palm to break armor instantly, kill with auto for single and whirlwing for aoe with projectile boosted it clear good if packs didnt be oneshot by vaulting impact. Phys staff is good but like in poe1 poison and elem spells require less stuff than physical martial skill

[@Newchaos190]

Yeah I dont mind them trying a slow heavy hitting archetype but they need to add attractive payoffs for example, unwavering stance makes you immune to all stuns and ailments in the game but only if you are facing the target and wearing pure armour only. Or the passives that reduce your attack speed need to have big positives like 500% increased attack damage and every 3rd hit stuns everything except for bosses but reduced attack speed by 20%

[@PaintMasterPoE]

@Newchaos190 500% is way too much, my whole tree has less lol. And literally everyone would just use instil to add that passive on amulet. They definitely need to buff mace a lot, but via bigger numbers on skills, and maybe a bit bigger number for some mace specific passives.

[@ashiok]

@@Newchaos190 Or just let the slow archetype actually be tanky to compensate the lack of clearspeed. Would make it more appealing in HC or group play, for example. But as it stands, the tankiest setups are caster oriented, that's how bad melee is. Mace should have certain defensively oriented skills, like bring back fortify, buff it, and make it mace specific or something (and SEVERELY buff all of the shield related skills in the game atm because they're all awful), IDK

[@KalosAmigo]

Flubenstein or glurbis glefferdon? Could be huge

[@iciuirisieid]

Yeah it gets nutty when you add a Schloobersen with a increased choomblip

[@BloBlas123]

He's a Zipzorb. He comes from schnarlbark

[@jarr3tt]

I have no idea what’s being said.. I’m just happy to be here.

[@Bandersonloud91]

the best poe streamer hands down lmao i hope ur new year is good my dude time to start monk lol

[@RedRanchu]

Honestly i love how warrior plays, i feel like its the intended pace and difficulty. Its the other classes that need to get nerfed. I cant imagine how running around a map 1 shotting everything with 1 skill is considered "fun"

[@mightyole]

Yup but the ppl will cry so hard with those nerfs

[@Buggolious]

poe1 playstyle that people love, it's a specific audience

[@RedRanchu]

@@Buggolious Doesnt appeal to alot of people

[@Buggolious]

@@RedRanchu this is the endgame they have designed and that is their audience, no matter how big or small it is

[@ashiok]

@@Buggolious That's the audience for poe 1, yes, but for poe 2 they claimed to be orienting in a different direction. As it stands, they have failed with their goal.

[@ARudePanda]

His Dino sounds at 4:30 literally ended my life, Alkaizer lives on his own spectrum

[@Tsusho1]

Fecal Flash!!

[@Adoptulous]

Cringler's Crest

[@SpecShadow]

Everlasting Diaryherra!

[@Sorain1]

I'm not convinced it's Warrior. I think it's Maces specifically that's horribly broken. To be fair, Armor being worthless doesn't help, since that's the primary defense of Warrior. It's pretty much full on Harrison Bergeron levels of being crippled by Maces game design.

[@bawzzzz]

Warrior is in such a shit place

[@Ashley-cv1ge]

d4?

[@DevK0z]

Nothing new

[@skabbmensnabb9086]

I am Jungle Ryan

[@daboss01234]

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[@NinjaGizmo]

Moldran whispers in your ears “LACOOONI PRWOWLA’S”

[@thegamemattster]

I still think the most enjoyable campaign and cruel experience i’ve had has been Warrior Mace (Leap Slam and Perfect Strike) and Merc (Permafrost Iceshard and Frag Round Explosions). Everything else is just stupid over tuned. You can tell Staves and Spells really had a lot of time invested. The Supercharged slam nerf doesn’t compare to the scaling that other things can do. I’m hoping Flails and Spears don’t play like Staves scaling

[@aetherblackbolt1301]

Warrior maybe isn't the issue but rather Armour and Maces. Of course most normal people live to the class fantasy based on the art and default weapon (and life regen early on), so will stack strength and armour thinking that makes sense. I think any good staff / spell / bow build used on their default classes (monk / sorceress / ranger) could also be made to be really good on warrior.

[@metropolismonke]

Does he still have Elemental Focus engraved on his Herald of Ice while equipping the Polcirkeln ring? Because if he does that then the ring literally doesn't work with Herald Chain explosions. The Herald needs to Chill. Elemental Focus prevents chill..

[@upanddown1132]

So what happened to Moldran?

[@86TrapHouse]

Hes serving The Booger King

[@sanjeycreig6945]

my iQ completely died from that moment on 8:51

[@cameronwilson3060]

badass dude dont forget to brofist and krinden dooker

[@Tkzlol]

After holding myself hostage to t16 with slam warrior, I will say swapping to Ancestral totem w/sunder is quite good, and brings a good level of fun playing a totem build. However,..... I doubt it holds a candle to monk :^)

[@LowkeyMMD]

Giant's Blood is a terrible keystone because you HAVE to take it, there is no reason to use a weaker 1 hand weapon aside from you not being able to get the strength.

[@SeekNeo]

Just like CI, if you're an ES build you have to take it, or MoM if you're a mana build....

[@Buggolious]

@@SeekNeo MoM is so busta

[@coreymcglone]

He's one of a kind.

[@assemnoot7491]

I didnt expect the tag behind the hand tbh

[@gergelyszaszko1105]

Why is a random Quin69 clip in my Alkaizer video?

[@SeekNeo]

Warrior is like playing PoE 2, other classes is like playing PoE 1

[@patrykolszewski593]

melee monk > melee warrior but crossbow warrior > melee monk :v damn warrior with crossbow is something more

[@KgSanji]

Outro sounded like the HTC sound or smth hct i dont remember it was a sound team i think for games or smth some1 make it happen xD

[@randoggaming4013]

I'm taking the meat treat stew personally

[@meowcheeses9870]

world of warcraft has arrived

[@DeathShot_69]

the only reson i play this game coz of u xD

[@kahwigulum]

perhaps but playing a melee chronomancer is a) even more satisfying b) stronger c) tankier d) main skill has base 2415% damage buff before gear and skill tree bonuses e) and has virtually zero cooldown (or at the very worst, 3 casts per ~20s)

[@LowkeyMMD]

I'll have to try this, too bad the campaign is such dogshit to play through

[@dillydalley101]

how do you get DNT mana totem? i can’t find it anywhere

[@OrganicStuff1]

Alkaizer has nice hands

[@pasteljoy282]

My name is Stuhl Sampaul, nice to meet you. Hope you can get paragon 69 on stream this time...

[@guymears2340]

I have a decent stampede herald of ice Titan. It is a decent build and good gear. Got slightly bored of it so went stat stacking on my Titan. I have not yet got rings, belt, amulet, only level 87 and my god. It is like playing another game. It is unbelievably strong in comparison to stampede. Warrior is god awful when used with default skills.

[@WikiED]

War is not that bad, if you don't play maces. Just run away from bottom left of the passive tree and you should have an ok non-mace build.

[@MyOpidig]

the last 2 min in the vid i was in a Rick and morty episode KEKW

[@immortalcry2013]

brown breath new nickname

[@DevK0z]

2:11 it was enjoyable while it lasted

[@lokhaxz803]

They "fixed" knockback stampede interaction (made stampede feel like dogshit lol)

[@UIMcocodog]

imo monk only feels so good becasue its really easy to get yourself into a possition where its broken tier op. poe2 melee has numerous really bad problems at the base mechanics/swinging a melee weapon just dosnt work well kind of level. for example 1, why do melee attacks have autoaim that causes you to swing at things youre not (mouse over)aiming at?(why would melee attacks be connected to the autoaim system at all???) 2, melee strikes have a wierd built in gap closer that will teleport you forward if the game thinks you'd be only just out of range. but it just dosnt work, possibly related to the autoaim stuff, sometimes you stand your ground and hit the air, sometimes your turn 360 and walk away like michael jackson, sometimes you get dragged into the middle of a pack where you had no intention to be...... why would you teleport me instead of giving me some grace extra range like wtf who thought of this?!?!?!? 3, why can range mofos move while shooting but melees have to stand still to swing? idk just a big ???? on that one??? 4, melee attack aoe cones are so small at the origin its possible to miss a mob thats litterally right infront of you(he got so close you could only reach past him lol). after listening to some dev talks before EA i really thought the melee might feel good? but it just dosnt really work that well.... imo lost ark needs to be the comparison benchmark for poe2 as far as combat goes, its the only other iso arpg on the market that has this combination of qualities that poe2 seems to be aiming for. some combo of fromsoft and blizzy/wow quality bosses, great visuals, impacful skills that feel great to use. ggg utterly nailed the 1st 2. but theres some pretty iffy problems with (melee) skills feeling great to use though. it feels like we've started from the d2 baseline and tried to fix it. instead of actaully making a good melee combat system from the start.....

[@razzikwastaken]

you know what I mean?

[@Anthony-bz2xs]

7:28 if you want to see the inside of his mind all the time

[@nomoreterban]

after reaching lv92 warrior I stopped playing, I shouldve chosen other toon when ea started

[@Tabrias07]

i'm like level 40 warrior and struggling to find the will to keep playing and then this shit comes out reroll time

[@RFlairPC]

Struggling to get the Doritos? What a mong

[@GodleyBeast]

Warrior Feels great when you get HotG. Then you get to maps and you feel like shit again

[@chaddrusso8850]

@@GodleyBeastthis is so accurate I’m a level 70 titan and maps have been so wack

[@briankay3146]

tried to roll warrior after monk. I quit in act 2, it just feels so awful.

[@willd158]

Every poe veteran making youtube vids and complaing about armour, magic find and other mechanics. This guy destroying the game whilst making ass and poop jokes

[@zurcarak]

warrior brain did not change with character 💀

[@FalleNDragonn]

Monk is love, monk is life

[@kobekao1080]

Grandma is a monk. Dududu

[@MasterJohnam]

+Charm mods on belt should be an extra free (7th) RNG triggered by Ex usage, or a high end item to guarantee add a charm slot that doesn't count towards the 6 mod limit. Charm slots should NEVER take up a buff slot. Also: Warrior is trash compared to Monk and needs major buffs.

[@biboulade]

Why a titan playing mace is on top of SSF ladder than? I'll give you a hint, the problem is between the screen and the chair

[@MasterJohnam]

@@biboulade I play Hardcore exclusively and I assure you - they are NOWHERE NEAR what you say. It's all infernalists/stormweaver/Invoker/Gemling and ZERO warriors and normal is the same but with Deadeye included do to their dump damage and deaths not mattering too much because their clear speed is astronomical. I think you're shining me on here - and know NOTHING about what you're talking about. It's like you're literally choosing to ignore what Alkaizer is saying - maybe fight him about SSF Warrior performance but the writing is on the wall. It's just too bad you're blind though.

[@biboulade]

@@MasterJohnam just answer, why a titan with mace is on top of ssf ladder ? It might be more demanding but it work, you cant go brainless like some other but it work. Evade/es is way stronger than armor/hp right now so the warrior is more sensitive. As in poe1 spell scale without gear, you just need to get +spell level to scale it, where you need a good weapon for martial skillls ,which is way harder to get as you need 6 stats on your weapon with a non-existing craft system. Alk said monk staff is easier than warrior mace, that all he said. 50% of base player is stormweaver, or infernalist in HC but there is a titan in top15 SSFHC, you know why ? Cause it work despite all the whining you can read everywhere, people wanna the easy way so warrior isnt popular but it work, i did campaign with it post nerf in SSFHC, died stupidly during cruel, my fault not the warrior fault. It work maybe not in all hands...

[@biboulade]

@@MasterJohnam And you wont see major buff, they nerfed it for a reason. They will buff armor, which will indirectly buff the war. Btw my monk is trashing the endgame content at lvl 90 in SSF with hobo stuff and that the same for all classes if you know what you do, some are easier to achieve than other

[@MasterJohnam]

@@biboulade yes all classes are balanced, GGG doesn't need to change anything and no class excel more than others. Also Communism works. Good chat.

[@insomniac30000]

taking away knockback from stampede was fucking dump

[@srag2117]

Drupertsphere?

[@nikolaykatsarov4084]

My daily dose of autism, love Alkaizer.

[@janisgrunda568]

Seemen Susan 😂

[@ThatsSwaggin]

What is this guy sayin

[@MonkehSee]

Every class feels broken compared to warrior. Warrior is horrible

[@69zirc]

eagle cream

[@cryionic]

I'm having some issues sustaining mana on this. any suggestions?

[@epic4242]

+skill level on melee skills is bait and may be what's causeing your issues. Phys damage and crit is eay better

[@nikoabaidze3574]

I switched to monk after clearing up to t15 with warrior and it actually feels like cheating.

[@Aevee_noob]

dont eat that bloobs

[@IcedPTO]

POOPOO BLAST

[@crymexis3439]

I'm so outta the loop with all the inside references

[@kurosakki]

0:54 MONKA

[@joakimandersson4985]

"SOMEHOW I DODGED ALL THE CHARM MODS, WORLD FIRST!" I i died

[@IndecisiveInsomniac]

bruh 2:40 am drop

[@chetbudreau5232]

okay i jave asked on several peoples builds and can never get an answer i have started with monk and all i do is die . i made it to 75 and it is dead all the time .how do you get so much energy shield .my resists are not bad as i get higher..and work very slowly at getting gear .i was never into poe1 so all this is new to me ., my monk is hitting pretty hard it's the staying alive part ..

[@RFlairPC]

Skill issues

[@MasterJohnam]

Dude Monk has tons of energy shield in their natural tree and you can branch over to Witch/Sorcerer for even more Shock and energy shield - pair that with Grim Feast overflow and they're insane.

[@chetbudreau5232]

@@RFlairPC Rflair sucked at wrestling as well

[@RFlairPC]

@@chetbudreau5232 Ok Timmy

[@mateusz7953]

People playing warrior are making 2 mistakes that make it look worse than it is. 1. They focus on HotG which has meh dps. It hits big once, but then you have to wait 3 years for the cooldown. 2. They don't make use of weapon swap nerfing their mapping capabilites immensly. Warrior is worse off compared to other classes, but people straight up make the class worse for themselves. If you don't use weapon swaps on warrior, that's like not using the bell on monk.

[@obZen327]

meat treat stew

[@d.b.cooper5775]

Yeah i rerolled and it's just , yeah

[@younghmz]

I don't even think warrior is weak, just stop playing with armour LOL

[@kernoleary1394]

WHO WAS HE?! Who plays like that lmao

[@djjoker12]

Still badass, also d4 bad.

[@aces8481]

Go over your gear real quick how do you have 3.8k es

[@xGNEPx]

best

[@practic4l349]

WHAAT

[@Lutnar]

moltergaist is the best

[@salvadorscar6057]

Brain rot is real

[@lutkuttaja2298]

"futacock"

[@michalnovotny6716]

Just delete Attack time from sunder And i Will be happy 🤣

[@jedrusnowak3317]

Yeah warrior is shit class. Slow. Less durable. Slugish. Damage is there but damn ita so clunky

[@dominikbade9674]

Im so damn mad i picked warrior… it sucks SO hard. Maybe its geting better with axes/swords. But being thinpaper squishy while having ultra long attack times sucks so hard

[@wesso6736]

I started with warrior because the fantasy was really awesome, but fter finishingthe act 2 cruel i quit the game because was kinda tired of playing the game with the risk of dying at any moment because my attacks were too slow and clunky.

[@gocalixto]

Warrior sucks so much

[@timesslve4697]

First

[@noguess2000]

Clearly you haven't played nor seen Warrior totems build. It melts everything as fast as Monk with ONE SKILL, ONE CLICK. You should know the game better before saying wrong things.

[@RFlairPC]

Ok Timmy

[@MasterJohnam]

LOL

[@noguess2000]

Clearly you both haven't seen totems build neither.

[@cayorus]

So much for WASD being superior 😅

[@matthiaszapf1171]

let me take a note

[@Rastei]

Yeah that why I stopped playing, I want to play a warrior but the game dont.