Playing the MOST OP Tier 8s in World of Tanks!

[@danstefan9411]

I would've never guessed the bz would be one of the most op tanks in tier 8. Who would've guessed.

[@brianrankin5876]

You mean OP tank in the game ?

[@TrashCanDolfie]

@@brianrankin5876 that's what he said, I think you mean THE most op tank

[@Hecate24]

i was shocked. what an absolute shock

[@Trueremixxx]

love this comment

[@michaelburton9820]

needs to be moved up to T9

[@warkus123]

should've separated this into two series, one for only premiums and one for only tech tree tanks, seeing as this is 90% premiums as it is and it would be fun to see a little more non-premiums.

[@forgerofsouls9126]

Yeah, I knew this would happen, hence why I asked for him to feature non-premium tanks for the Tier 8 video back on the Tier 7 video (or was it the Tier 6 video?).

[@vortier]

How can you make a video if most overpowered techtree tanks are still underpowered?

[@forgerofsouls9126]

@@vortier And where is the fun if you feature tanks that are more or less broken that everyone can see coming from a mile away. BZ-176 play videos...to me...are boring. The tank is so broken, it is not fun to play or watch. Same with the Turtle now, and I love the tank.

[@Chillr3nd]

​@@forgerofsouls9126then dont watch those games?? You can always skipperone. Series is called "most op tanks" so it mean you probably dont see many M3lee games..

[@jollybee5220]

it's t8, he really doesnt have a choice since t8 is premium tanks breeding ground

[@gebhard128]

One of the biggest strengths of the BZ176 is that no one wants to push against it, u can see it in a 1v6 scenario and there will be no one taking the risk of loosing 50% + of their hit points while on another part of the map the team wins by numbers advantage

[@neeevirus]

Unfortunately, I am severly autistic and will push a BZ knowing I will die

[@eugeneivanchenko3599]

I will push AND destroy it on AMX M4 51, works every time

[@jamesknight3070]

My JagdTiger eats BZ-176s for breakfast, with 250mm frontal hull down they do little damage in return. XD

[@TrashCanDolfie]

​@@eugeneivanchenko3599yes but not everyone meets it in a tier 10 Let alone the amx, those poor tier 6s...

[@shalakabooyaka1480]

I like seeing them in my 703-2. I got alpha too lol.

[@StrLab]

It's admirable how QB can focus on his game and talk about specific stuff that need thinking (like strategies, statistics, equipment) at the same time for 12 hours!

[@MrJoeGarner]

He's been playing since the inception of the game.

[@e7danny7m]

cuz it's edited?

[@bhodson7954]

What people forget is that the Bourrasque can have a scout build that gives it better view range than the LT432 and only marginally less camo.

[@Picar70]

I do believe with a decent crew, food and directive (no bounty equip) you can almost get 45% camo on the Borr-ass-que. While moving.

[@TheLtVoss]

Well that is for sure true but the lt432 has magical bounce angels and is flat like a plate also the 85mm gun is also pretty good for a light tank

[@Jinny-Wa]

Borat has magical bounce angles too, same as most lightly armoured French vehicles in WoT@@TheLtVoss

[@cardinalmite9183]

​​@Jinny-Wa no, Bourrasque has virtually no ability to bounce, to compare it with an LT-432 for armour bounce is absolutely ridiculous. Bourrasque is an amazingly good tank, arguably best tier 8 in a good players hands, but if you are relying on its armour you are doing it wrong.

[@SargentoDuke]

Well borat is actually a tier 10 wheelie turret in a tier 9 scout... As a tier 8 med, it can scout yes... But LT432 is stalinium made with the hitboxes RIGGED to absorbe He even from 176 with the chains and the turret its autobounce

[@EMPDtezza]

Regarding nerfing the BZ, I've been saying from the start just give it a couple extra hitpoints, up it to Tier 9 and change nothing else. It would sort out Tier 8 clan activities and give it less favourable match ups without explicitly nerfing it

[@veoa416]

It's already a very good tier 9 as it is anyway😂

[@vyrix5733]

would the pen still work?

[@danielfeinour9611]

@@vyrix5733, not so much against tier 9 heavies. Most tier 8s have around 200 mm frontal armor, give or take a little. Tier 9s on the other hand usually have more frontal armor, or better sloped armor at the very least. I still think the BZ-176 would be ok at tier 9, but to EMPDtezza's point, it would probably sort out the mm a bit and become more average rather than god-tier OP.

[@vyrix5733]

@@danielfeinour9611 it would sort out some issues, but I think the pen would become a major disadvantage. Maybe nerf the HE pen and buff the ap pen to like 250 or smth and put it at T9.

[@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDIL]

​@@vyrix5733well if the pen got buffed but the alpha remains, it will be unbalanced for 160mm caliber gun. Just give it direct 800 for AP lmao

[@owenstabler5937]

How about a video of forgotten Tier 10s starring the AMX 30b? I think we'd all enjoy a video covering the T-62a, AMX-30b, WZ-113G FT, and K91, all of the least played Tier 10s accessible through the tech tree

[@clementlobjoie1986]

Amx 50 100 line

[@owenstabler5937]

@@clementlobjoie1986 lol that might make a good video for one of the more painful experiences in WoT. The tier 5, 6, and 7 are all awesome, but the 50 100 and 50 120 were just awful

[@MisterReez17]

​​@@owenstabler5937 I remember back when the 50 100 was meta, along with the is-3 and the leichttraktor for clan battles

[@Billybobjoefromsc]

Thought K-91 was premium or collector? Or is that only in Blitz?

[@owenstabler5937]

@@Billybobjoefromsc must only be in blitz. In the main game it's tech tree but it's more uncommon to see than most premium tier 10s

[@RealDeme]

I think that wg should make the same mm mechanic to bz that is with the wheeled tanks that it has to meet another one of its kind. Also disable plstooning with bzs

[@nikoladd]

nope. just nerf it. Armor nerf to be specific.

[@OrcaSpiderJay]

prem bz vs tech tree bz sounds fair :D

[@RealDeme]

@@OrcaSpiderJay where did i say so?

[@OrcaSpiderJay]

@@RealDeme you said same like wheeled lights. EBR 75 plays often against Lynx

[@RealDeme]

@@OrcaSpiderJay "another one of its kind" means basically the same tank in this particular argument. If it didnt mean "same tank" it would have basically meant that any tank in the game as the wheeled tanks are VEHICLES so they have to meet another VEHICLE

[@Legionthecomrade]

Bullying the E100 with the BZ176 sums up why I quit shortly after it went into the game.

[@rickrock9732]

The +2 / -2 bullshit MM should be removed anyway. Max. 2 tiers in a battle - as a result a rebalance of some tanks is fine then ;-)

[@excelsian512]

Love how the borsig said "Stay alive" and then you instantly die 😂

[@Taldaris]

I am 100% behind the idea of WG nerfing the BZ. Either it gets nerfs to the gun or armor, get rid of the nitro-rockets, or it gets only +2 mm. Tier 6-7 and even stock 8's should not be seing this monstrosity.

[@MindTrippin-SinceBirth]

WOT brothers... My Mom past away today after many years of suffering, give here some love, i need it.. ty so much

[@SargentoDuke]

🙏rip

[@timeforgottenprince8271]

I call the BZ 176 the BS 176, what BS stands for I believe you, the reader, can figure out.

[@l0nerstalker]

"Big fat German making its way through town and I have to avoid it like it's october fest“ 😂 love that one

[@FlyLeah]

Bz got everything. Alpha for tons of fun, its like a reliable KV2, armor to not die, speed to not be stuck being slow. Ontop of that, it makes credits like a monster EVEN if you spam premium rounds. It is the best premium I ever owned in every single way

[@TrashCanDolfie]

You're right about everything 😂 so do you wash your hands after playing it?

[@marcosilingardi8975]

No, i like play in it so Who cares

[@FlyLeah]

@@TrashCanDolfie I keep a cleaning spray next to me to use after every kill Sooo dirty but addicting at the same time

[@TrashCanDolfie]

@@FlyLeah 😂very good, I can imagine the satisfaction

[@MrProzacky]

If they dont want to nerf it, they should give it MM like the ebr so that it can only meet other BZ 176.

[@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDIL]

Unfortunately, if that happen. Then one of the worst tier 8 tank Bz-166 had to fight a Bz-176. Did you think that fair? If talk about wheel meets wheel regardless the ebr 75 literally meet tech tree tank lynx 6x6. They just "matching" a same "mechanic" tank.

[@Skerrry]

​@@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDILOr they could just make the BZ 176 meet other BZ 176s.

[@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDIL]

@@Skerrry that will be the first. But meeting other Bz-176 could increase the match making times. Which could increase the server traffic

[@Skerrry]

@@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDIL I think that would be a good idea.

[@Aoupful]

Turtle is my favourite tank! It feels super smooth now after the buff! However it's kinda only good in T8 MM, the new pen helps but trying to 1 for 1 against a hulldown heavy is kinda tough.

[@milos-7712]

Vert stabs vents and aiming device is the play on Astron.

[@Jallahz]

18:48 that's actually a great line😂

[@Peter-dy9sp]

Quickybaby can you make a video over the best collectors vehicles like the kv85, t21 e.g.? Will be funny for a lot of players.

[@AndrewMitchell123]

man T21 is a sick tank... who would have thought that a light version of T20 would work so well amIrite xD

[@RedVRCC]

There's only one way WG could handle this without lawsuits: Move it to tier 9 and give all players who obtained it the option to keep it as a tier 9 special tank with all its bonuses still or cough it up and receive compensation for it. They can't just nerf it without an option to get compensation like you said because it would cause absolute chaos and could possibly result in lawsuits. The type 59 was the last time WG ever dared to try and that ended very badly.

[@Joshmakey12]

You forgot to include the shovel in the list. Completely overpowered and dominating the matchmaker

[@binks3371]

bz is not controversial, just very OP

[@busterbebustin4792]

The people who own it disagree, even though they are wrong, and they know it, that deems it controversial

[@theMaDNesS201]

hey man heres an idea for a video, go over all the maps, both past and present. I personally miss the deep map rotation that WoT used to have, now you get on and play and it seems there are only ever 5 maps in rotation. Where they used to have several maps for all season camo now there are what 4 desert maps and 2 winter maps, excluding specific game mode maps. Maybe WG can find a way to revamp some of the old maps and put them back into rotation.

[@Jean_1999]

QB: 4 Second Intra Clip Reload is bad Me: *laughs in SMV-CC 56*

[@falcon6329]

This game is becoming more like blitz where they constantly release stronger premium tanks than before to the point that old premium that where once op become 1 tier lower compared to newest premium tank

[@cloud_0_]

I would assume that WG will nerf the BZ-176 at the same time as selling it again while giving owners an option to trade the tank back for gold if they fancy like they did with the Super Pershing etc

[@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDIL]

Trade back for gold? You can only obtain this tank through lot boxes. How are they gonna compensate for the real world money that are spent on that thing ? Even so, you can't choose what tank you want in the boxes. I doubt any owner will be satisfied with that kind of compensation

[@RedXlV]

@@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDIL Since nobody actually bought the BZ-176 directly, it's questionable whether owners would have any valid claim for compensation at all.

[@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDIL]

@@RedXlV then since nobody bought it directly. I don't think Wargaming had a valid reason to nerf it

[@RedXlV]

@@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDILThat's the most idiotic statement I've ever seen.

[@stavros8410]

Astron rex is a borat killer. It gets everything: armor, camo, speed, -10 gun depression, pretty ok gun handling, this thing is a monster.

[@villelepoaho4105]

Shame we didn't see the AMX 65 t in this video. That thing makes the BZ-176 run away.

[@yung_kuku]

how? that tank is a trash tier 8 heavy imo, no turret armor, no hull armor, maybe okay gun.

[@nortti00]

Or where is the "defender killer" tvp vtu. Surely he would have shown to the baza

[@stevanmilanovic5073]

I have +17% in the Turtle from like 40-50 games. Sick tank.

[@zGJungle]

The 703 is the cure for the BZ, in my opinion, at least half of the hits I take from the BZ while driving my 703 are bounced or extreme low rolls.

[@AK-oz4ew]

Right, E100 is penned frontally with HE, and a monster tier 8 super 703 will deal with it no problem

[@pugstriker]

I'd say the defender is cure for bz

[@MM-gq1le]

If you play arty your job is to delete the BZ. That tank ruins games

[@AetherYes]

Try type nerf bz 176 on the search bar >I:)

[@cracotte9535]

Would be great to make the same video but with only regular tanks :)

[@usun_games2771]

Astron is my favorite tank with +5% win rate on my account and over 1k games on it. My second setup is commander module+improved optics+improved vents when no scouts which make it a scout on its own pretty much winning games outright without a single shot.

[@CCL73]

38.01 You should know this QB.. so hilarious the way you are talking 😂

[@gruemoka5314]

Honestly BZ is always like this : "Wow it shouldn't have passed but it did". Each shot makes you feels like rnjesus just sanctified you.

[@LYNX_FRoSTY99]

One thing I’ve realised over the 6 years I’ve played the tank isn’t as important as the player, you can be in a seriously OP tank but be a not so good player still learning the game and you won’t have as many good games as someone who has more then 2 years in the game. Players make more of a difference then individual tanks

[@CaptainMannyUK]

similar story for the premiums. the ones that sit top have not been sold in ages.

[@AdamtheRed-]

You describe the perfect way to nerf the 176. Dont nerf the tank, just give it +2/-0 MM all the time.

[@RedXlV]

The perfect way to nerf the 176 would be to move it up to Tier 9, so it can never brutalize Tier 6 tanks again. And would only meet Tier 7 some of the time instead of most of the time. And there wouldn't really be any cause complaint by BZ owners since at Tier 9 it would grind bonds.

[@dylanmcgarry1221]

Quicky's Christmas mustache growing in gloriously

[@asocialsocialist2534]

I have the same problem with the shells disappearing lately. Even when I see the shell go into the enemy tanks without damage or ricochet. My friend have the same problem.

[@russianyoutube]

Likely a network issue of some kind. Desync or whatever, your client may put the shell where it isn't. Not something wg can fix

[@NotADuncon]

QB you doubted me when I told you in 50% of your videos you don't run vert stabs and yet - your last BZ vid - no vert stabs. Now on BZ & astron - no vert stabs.

[@LYNX_FRoSTY99]

Talking about the bz-176 they could up tier it? Would that be a good way of balancing it

[@alxen9814]

QB still mentions, that showing greed is somehow stopping WG from selling this or that. Emperor is naked, and was this way for many years.

[@david0987100]

Hey quickybaby do you have a current video on which tanks have the best armor pen for their tier?

[@Deimnos]

Every time an Ammo rack module is hit, even if it doesn;t lose half of its health to go yello, there is a chance, a small one, that the ammo blows up. You should know that Quaky Babs, since you've been playing this game since the stone age! Same for engines being hit for engine fires

[@raph59799]

"he leaves... He dies".... "huuhh" 😅😅😅 so good

[@geraldlafleur7776]

No, QB , they dont have to do anything to the 176, just have the MMaker put you in with like or higher tier tanks AND /or give you the suckier of the two teams who will evaporate while you are holding off on one flank and next thing you know you are surrounded. You also play with 5+skill crews that make shots I've never hit with mine. RNG and MM can remove all the advantages of a "overpowered" tank. When I play Turtle I am almost never top tier and never had lower tier opponents.

[@deadnovice6419]

the only thing holding the 703 back is that WG gives it out as a rental for 2 weeks to new players for completing missions

[@MsTh5]

Defender was considered game breaking as well, in the end it got out powercrept

[@cameronrudan7157]

33:57 Cannot stop laughing 🤣

[@IdunRedstone]

Got an amazing way to make BZ176 Balanced. You move it up to tier IX, change nothing (except tier IX HP). Boom. Now it is only slightly OP. :/

[@Skott62]

If they nerf the BZ-176 they will piss off those people who spent money to get one. IMO its only OP when it can get hull down. Catch it out in the open its a lot easier to deal with. Arty can do a lot of damage to it as well. Also do not forget QB is using a crew with all perks and skills and he is using bond equipment. I got a feeling most BZ-176 players won't have a set up that good. I have killed enough of them to know they are good but not that OP once they come out in the open or watch arty go to town on them.

[@MySpartan94]

I havent played the bz176 in a while. But i cant rely on the gold HE. I know others do but actually prefer to fire AP

[@schijtnaam]

the worst part of the BZ-176 is that I was never even able to get it. The loot boxes are banned in Belgium where I live and there is no alternative way to get the tanks which are available in loot boxes.

[@Kanikalion]

The BZ is pretty strong, yes. But I'm still convinced half of the reason it's that good is Wargaming's map designs. Get this thing anywhere where it's not hull down or at the end of a tunnel(most of wargamings maps), it is not nearly so intimidating. The 800 damage gun isn't really even that far out there. A KV-2 can do that at tier 6. The SU-130 does 600 at half the reload, accurately, from forever away. The big issue is wargaming designing so many maps to have a blatant heavy tank area with lots of tunnels and ridges, and then building a tank that is ideally suited for sitting at the end of those and not giving people other ways to play around it.

[@Thee_Sinner]

What about the best arty..?

[@uk33ant]

Whenever I play 6, 7 or even 8 I always groan when I see a BZ on the other team. They will eventually sell it again, they did the same thing with the E25.

[@manuelbenavides5038]

Yesterday I got a game with 4 BZ-176 in my team and 2 in the enemy team, all of them in a platoon lol, MM is crazy sometimes I swaer.

[@RealDeme]

You cant platoon with 4ppl?

[@mandrake925]

​@@RealDemetwo, two man platoons on the 4 im assuming.

[@daveyjones4451]

They should up tier it, move it to T9, same happened in WOW legends with the weimar it was op at T6 so they upped it to T7 unchanged and it works

[@thepattyroach6395]

When he was surprised by penning the e100 I wasn’t I’ve been taken out by a bz176 that exact way I thought I would be perfectly safe just going straight at them nope they just need to be removed from the game all together give everyone that has one a credit for any premium tank they want in its place or something but they need to be gone

[@BaldEagle777]

"Tiger Moose" -QuickyBaby 2023 😂😂😂

[@IvanTaylorIT]

Why does QB look like 16th century French diplomat 😂😂

[@tabasscojoe]

BZ 176 Rebalance Option: Replace the HESH by HEAT. With this it is no longer broken

[@Belnick6666]

remember when wargaming had to remove t 50-2 because going 60kmh would break the server because the game engine could not handle it?

[@Marco_Vulpine]

@31.32 what happened to your side shot on the IS-3? I see this a lot recently. It can't be a miss as your whole reticule is on the tank? Did it hit the wall? It did not register as a Rick O'Shea? I don't get it? Is it a game issue?

[@timberwolfe1645]

I'm playing the BZ176 for the first time TODAY DUE TO THIS!!!

[@anayman7]

these stats really shows how this game is Pay To Win

[@Mthammere2010]

The BZ-176 is what the KV-2 used to be at t6 and what the Japanese Heavies used to be. WG could nerf this tank by in nerfing every single tech tree derp tank; allowing ftp players to counter the hull down/op armor meta.

[@ishiggidiggi]

christ that EBR game was embarrassing to watch

[@Belnick6666]

So Turtle 1 is like the jagdtiger 88, with no lower plate weakness and higher damage?

[@arvidsasse165]

5:32 speaking of luck I opened my free lootbox yesterday and I got the obj 752 I should be buying a lottery ticket

[@Auger3504]

I don't care what QB says, there are times the Bourrasque is just way OP, You can shift flanks in under a minute on the map and turn the tide with it's speed and 2 shot magazine. I'm an average player but have totally carried w/the Bourrasque in more than a few games by using it's speed.

[@Loudnose]

Prog 46? Bour?

[@markdouglas485]

I do the same in lights with my own arty. If you choose to play arty then you're on your own

[@lucky2meetu]

Everytime this tank fires I hear "Yamate Oniichan!"

[@sigmamalegrindset132]

1:00 QB actually char 75 hasnt been sold in a year either :)

[@Houmer]

K-2 should have its own "Pay to bounce" category. It can definitely do that but horrendous view range, gun handling and mobility drag it down to average at best. Also it uptiers really badly, lacks any fun factor and needs to shoot a lot of premium rounds. I would never pick this before all other tanks from the top of the list.

[@olmaned3795]

the reason they don't nerf the BZ is me. I do so bad in it that if you get 10 more noobs like me, we bring down the stats of the tank to where it looks only mildly OP.

[@Raptor279e]

Well I salute you then please keep making it look bad. In all honesty I think the k2 is more of a monster then the bz

[@olmaned3795]

thanks man, I'll do my worst

[@Renato_F.]

Balancing the Object 279 and Chieftan is easy. I want to see the premium BZ 176 (TIER X) balanced

[@SargentoDuke]

"BZ" means BalanZed Doing 900 damage to a Tiger-Maus lfp 💀💀

[@Skerrry]

I will never understand why so few arty players move after each shot.

[@kmoecub]

WG could (quite legally) rebalance the rest of the tanks by using the BZ-176 as the balance point. There's noting illegal or unethical about buffing a premium tank to bring it in line with an OP premium tank, and bringing all of the tech-tree tanks along for the ride will keep players happy.

[@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDIL]

The legal problem is people who spent real world currency to get certain tank especially in loot boxes. Where it's "gamble" to get it. How they gonna address this one? You pay for goods and later the seller decide to downgrade the goods you buy with full price. Is that legal to you?

[@yazeedyazeed6182]

Enjoyed it thanks

[@FriendsOfTheRoad]

I would like to get the astron rex, how do you get it?

[@Franetzky]

Playing my BZ I have noticed low rolls are constant, Still like it but I gave up trying to make any coin with it.

[@hohuynhquocchuong4925]

You know how it is even funnier: his BZ is matching with M-III-Y, the worst VIII HT... Just nerf it to go the level of Caliban is enough...

[@radekradekxx2670]

I own BZ , and it depends on your skill how you play it, If there are decent enemy players you can end up with no score at all

[@lMrJackl]

How to nerf BZ without nerfing it: Move it to tier 9 (as a T9 premium). Add 1 extra rocket boost so it has the same number as the T9 tech tree tank. Increase its hit points to 1950 or thereabouts. Keep all its other statistics the same.

[@icephoenix3565]

Nah

[@MUAZFIRDAUSBINMOHAMMADAIDIL]

Nah, and how does BZ going to generates income with both poor penetration? The accuracy and gun handling could stay the same. But since it has 16cm gun. Did you think 650 alpha in T9 is good? Look at bz75. 152mm but only 650 alpha. To add that the bz176 had terrible 206 pen. Yeah how they gonna balance that ?

[@running2standstill685]

Gsor storm trooper got me there 😂

[@jamjestkowal]

21:00 Err, perhaps because not everyone owns every tank in the game? Looking at tier 8 most played vehicles most of them were either available for free from a marathon/bond store/trade-in using bond store tanks or were available from lootboxes.

[@alessandrogritti5374]

I got a kolobanov medal in an A-SMV, isn't it so f***ing crazy?

[@michaelmanier9447]

The thing I don't get is that I have high penetration tanks that don't pen and low pen tanks that penetrate everything. War gaming has some things they need to fix 😂

[@jayjohnson6974]

Honestly, just give the dam BZ a gun like the oho. I think that would help a lot, I really hate seeing that tank when I play tier 8.

[@JoseAngel-nb9ng]

So funny how a tier 8 can do 460 dmg to an e100 tracks, pretty balanced

[@杨简-v5z]

20:15 the reason why u need a vert stab.

[@NaviAludad]

Know thy strength and you will be victorious know know thy enemy and you will be able to defeat them. That is the secret of QB he knows his tank and he knows his enemy.

[@Slurms9]

i feel like the buffed the turtle to help fight the bz-176 lol

[@radekradekxx2670]

My reload is 19 sec on BZ btw

[@poochpoocher2417]

The prem EBR 75 is why I don't play front line any more it.