Please Don't Miss This 2v2 Game. Trust Me. (Game Of The Year)

[@uThermal]

Thanks everyone for being here! Since I already have some Patreon money saved up I'll be trying to host my first $1000 2v2 tournament in January/February and go from there :) Please feel free to drop any suggestions about formats, rule ideas and stuff because I'm definitely down to shake things up a bit with rules on resource sharing, races, maybe even certain mods etc. Thanks so much for watching everyone and have a great day

[@Blinky867]

Love you, Marc!!!!

[@edick5231]

I think adding mods would be interesting but that should be later when you feel the games get a bit "stale". Starting simple would be good cause 2v2 tournaments is something i've never watched with pro players. Love the video (and you ofc

[@VeryBadPlayerTV]

It certainly won't revive sc2, it would give it a temporary boost in life but. The fate of this game is in the balance counsels hands and its.... looking grim

[@sethmasters477]

All race mod or require everyone to play random. I would love to see some crazy scenario where teammates are giving control of units to teammates due to have better control in this or that

[@CoAndCoLaptopAccount]

Can you drop a PayPal or something similar that would take less of a cut?

[@bthekuta]

I'm old and lame. And I know playing a video game for a living can get very stale, but the amount of enjoyment you give us with these videos with your positive attitude, creativity, etc is just so awesome. It's also absolutely insane how talented you are. If I have a 5 second conversation with my 5 year old midgame, my D3 ass somehow starts floating a zillion minerals. Yet you are able to play at the very top levels while commentating your own play, it's just so nuts.

[@uThermal]

Holy moly thanks brother :D

[@Frankotronify]

Thank you for your service sir!

[@nachocabrera5909]

@@uThermal I can hear him say "holy moly"!!!

[@user-c4b9b]

I know there are great personalities and talent around Starcraft but Marc has always been a personal favorite since watching him when he was pro. Cheers Thermy Happy Holidays Merry Christmas

[@jp2135744]

how do i donate

[@bmoon11]

Sc2 really dropped the ball on not investing more into 2v2 and 3v3. This was the bread and butter with my friends after college and you could see the giant shift into team games such as league. Very few gamers enjoy playing solo. They would rather play with other people and or friends. Hope the 2v2 scene in sc2 keeps growing.

[@Very0dd]

team games make it so more comps are viable, and they are just way more enjoyable to watch.

[@mskolnik2]

They didn’t drop the ball. There was no reason to ever give SC2 a ball. One artist in an afternoon let Activision made more money off crap in WoW than the hundreds of people and YEARS it took to make Starcraft ever made so there was no reason to bother trying to work hard to make Starcraft profitable or further its playtime.

[@beefwellington480]

Going mech with medivac viking was my go to with my Zerg buddy. Roach hydra that heals with tank support is kinda silly.

[@asdfqwerty14587]

@@Very0dd I kind of feel like that's just because there isn't a pro scene in 2v2 to be honest - I think that if people took 2v2 as seriously as they do in 1v1, that it would also eventually become about as "solved" as 1v1 is and it would also become pretty stale - the reason there are so many different strategies is mostly that people just don't really know what they're doing, but if that stopped being the case I think most of those strategies would vanish because they're just not good enough.

[@nealwhitlock5618]

"If you guys want to see those kinds of things I will continue doing that." I want to see those kinds of things. Please continue doing that.

[@rbrun1993]

These 2v2 games are absolutely epic! Looked like you guys were completely cooked and managed to steal victory from the jaws of defeat! Would love to see some of your other recorded 2v2 matches and really hope that 2v2 competitions become a thing in the future.

[@huzi990]

I don't know what caused it but KZbin suggested me some of your videos on my home page not long ago and I watched one out of curiousity. Now I'm basically tuning in every day to see what kind of shenanigans you manage to get into with your cheese and team games. Loving your enthusiasm for SC2.

[@CoAndCoLaptopAccount]

His back catalog is absolutely killer too!

[@roarmalf]

Love the 2v2s, absolutely my favorite SC2 content right now. Hopefully more and more players will join you, it is much more interesting and unpredictable.

[@dmo84]

I honestly don't care what content you make. StarCraft or other RTS, doesn't matter, I genuinely enjoy this channel. Your commentary is perfect, I can watch or just listen; is exactly what I need to get through the day.

[@seang8462]

Love all of your games with goblin. This casting format is a nice addition

[@jonathan3523]

2v2 is my favorite type of games. I only play 2v2 by now. I had an epic game where me and my teammate had 85 supply combined and they had 185. Somehow, I manage to defend for 5 minutes straight with my orbital, and a 4-5 cyclone against 2 army attacking from 2 different angle, while my teammate built back an army of marines and went to destroy their main base. That game was Epic. I thought it was one of the biggest comeback I seen in my life. Crazy feeling when they fiiiiinaly GG at the last second like how the f*** we won this game

[@joeb787]

I personally only play team games even if it does mean 50% of time my ally will be useless lol I still have fun

[@jeffpayne9655]

Doesn't that mean that 50% of the time it is you....? Lol

[@Bagalo123]

It must be him 100% of the time at which ever job he got

[@killas1n]

Me and my buddy play 2v2 together. Win or lose its a lot of fun

[@tpunktepunkt1613]

Love to see you playing in team-games. It is so much more fun to watch then 1v1. Bear hug for you for entertaining all of us so good!

[@sethmasters477]

ive never played a solo game besides sc2. everything else has been team games and watching you and goblin inspired me to get some consistent 2v2 partners. Would 100% love more casts and big tournaments!!! You're shaping the 2v2 scene right now (at least at my league). Theres very little content out there on 2v2 and you have the big seat my friend. keep it up thermy

[@AceofWickedSpades]

I'm so glad people are getting more into 2v2 and the other team modes. It is genuinely the most fun to me and always has been. I'm so glad you are making people aware of how fun it is!

[@sebastianbroscheyoga]

my two biggest wonders about startcraft has been for the last few years: 1. Why not 2v2 is more common (it's awesome to watch) 2. Why not random vs random tournaments are a thing. I love seeing pro's playing off races, and it shows more general starcraft skills than the stuff we've seen 100 times before. Thoughts on this marc?

[@DrummerJacob]

What a great game! Thanks for sharing. I dont usually like watching 2v2s but you cast it well so I can get into it better.

[@chrisgriffith1573]

I remember a great game I played- My teammate was killed out- he left me with four probes... I moved to take all three bases on the right side of the map- terran, I made about forty Vikings, full upgrades, I had 8 Starports with reactors. The opponents were busy taking out my main, so I sent all forty to take out theirs. They F2'd to kill them off, not knowing I had other bases, and more importantly, more production. I totally took out their production, but they had a huge Carrier fleet, they went looking for my production, but it was too late, my bank was so big could re-max to about 40 Vikings, and I could take out their heavily damaged Carriers. The game seemed lost- but I took out both opponents in the end mainly due to their overconfidence.

[@ryansheets5698]

What an amazing game! I love team matches and I 100% agree it definitely adds more dynamic to army composition and completely new scenarios that you never see. I love how you are able to talk so fast too, I feel like most encounters here were covered and I really understood what was going on for sure. If you post more videos like this then I will watch them! Thank you for always trying to spice things up and find a new way to play!

[@mpckelly91]

I love the 2v2 content. It brought me back to watching the channel!

[@jemandvondort1585]

I actually really enojyed the background info about the scene - I wish to get more such insights in the future!

[@MrHansolaffen]

Yeah, 2v2 is simply much more entertaining and fun!

[@Duneraven]

Always loved 2v2 and always felt it's very strange how it's not seen more often in tournaments. Would love to see more of this. Thanks.

[@orfeo-7_]

This makes me Realy miss my sc1 lan parties back in the late 90s early 2000s. My dad, uncle and grandpa had 12 computers all networked together at my grandpas house. me, my older brother and all my cousins playing 5v5 , 6v6 and tournaments for prizes on crazy custom maps for a whole weekend is still my fondest memory.

[@jankowalski1501]

in every game team mode is much more complicated than 1v1s because instead of paying attention to 2 sides, you must pay attention to 4-6-8 sides or whatever + u must learn to communicate good with team (totally not present in duels) + you must be ready to defend 2v1 for example etc etc. So you pretty much do all the things u do in 1v1 + you must do multiplayer things. Also this is why not many good duel players are actually good team players, and vice versa. SC is no different, it is totally normal, the problem is team games in pubs, where u can get totally off balanced teams. But I guess this is not a problem when it is 6K+ MMR game.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

Doesn't even need to be 2v2 or more to make it more interesting a 1v1v1 or more would make games way more interesting

[@jankowalski1501]

@@calebbarnhouse496 kinda yes, but there is also a matter of 2 attacking 1,and u are totally cooked, but yeah, FFA are also fun :)

[@calebbarnhouse496]

@@jankowalski1501 yea it CAN happen, but so long as you make a rule that 2 players can't team up to beat one player, then the possibility of 1 person getting attacked by 2 isn't game winning because the 2 armies will engange eachother when they meet in the same base

[@AndrewAyjayar]

Several older competitive games are moving to 2v2 styles more. I got back into watching competitive Pokémon now that the biggest ones are 2v2 battles because of all the weird tactics you can do and so much more predicting like which Mon you think he will target. Definitely agree that 2v2 is the way to keep things fresh.

[@asdfqwerty14587]

2v2 Pokemon isn't really anything similar. "2v2" in pokemon is still just 1 player vs. 1 player, just they have 2 pokemon sent out at a time.

[@AndrewAyjayar]

@ no, you miss my point. It is that variety of permutations that increase. To say that isn’t the case means you likely misunderstood.

[@David-nv4mr]

Hey Marc, the 2v2 games and the challanges are very fun to watch! pls keep going and cast your 2v2 tournament matches.

[@pwoblo]

I love the team content. Personally I like the live commentary, and Goblin is fun to hear. There's something about the emotional reactions in the moment

[@burningsheep4473]

Very true what you said there at the beginning. I always thought that a fourth race would have had to be introduced at some point. Or sub-factions like in Kane's Wrath perhaps. I also have grown tired of competitive SC2 and while I occasionally return to it, it's usually impossible to know which games are actually worth watching.

[@milchtanker3399]

I love ur channel cause you combine the competetive aspect with your creative play. I think those are the most entertaining videos of yours.❤

[@Pendragonzzz]

'Talk about the whole scene'. Please.

[@FabianMirandaG]

Yes, And I thought I would invite the Pro Players to a Challenger..... do a series uThermal cheese vs pro players

[@dualinline7867]

Team game puts a whole lot of dynamic in the game. So many possibilities.

[@WetheDepressed]

I have been loving the team games, hope you can keep it going!

[@omegapsi847]

Beautiful game and very entertaining commentary! Please never stop this content :)

[@SubTactHiphop]

great content from the silliest goose, love the channel brother

[@OnlyForwardFast]

As long as it’s your gameplay being commentated, I find casting for other players/ tournaments you’re not a part of to be boring

[@Cephalopopo]

Sounds like a great vision for the sc2 to revive it by hosting 2v2 games. I hope you succeed with that, sounds really great. There might be shear endless combinations to be explored

[@Irisfantasies]

2v2 allows for such a flexible playstyle that makes doing anything you want somewhat viable instead of the usual pro strats everyone and their mothers uses for 1v1, it really feels like a breath of fresh air

[@NepTunez-ff9bp]

Yes! Epic. Love this game, and the opportunities that 2v2 brings! Also, I've said it before but I'll say it again: Marc is by far my favorite commentator.

[@konstantinalpatov1221]

Hi Marc! In the vid you asked if we want the rest of your 2v2 games. And the obvious answer is - YES, WE DO! Please share them.

[@peao010109]

This game was amazing! So many twist and turns, so many ingenious moves and such incredible mayhem!

[@maxkessler8993]

Love your videos. Just wanted to say I really enjoyed this video but I think I prefer when you live cast because of the reactionary nature. As a stressed StarCraft player it’s cool to hear someone come up with sick builds live

[@joemaven3426]

Thanks!

[@uThermal]

Thanks a lot king :D

[@sethdallen]

That was awesome! I would love to see more casting of your own 2v2 tourney games.

[@Light-of-Aiur]

2v2 is awesome! But how can you give your ally control over your things ?

[@kristianjensen5]

i want as much jabbing as possible - could listen at "the state of the game" for hours

[@insomniagaming9588]

I would gladly watch you cast such games...I like your commentary

[@engines2k]

I haven't played sc in years but Im addicted to mark commentary

[@jackpowell8155]

I cant get enough of your positive attitude, and vicious gameplay ❤

[@Zmeos]

Would love to see more 2v2 content. Including this pro level commentary!

[@HousedHorse]

I really love the 2v2 content. It's super fun to watch.

[@thedanyesful]

Imagine if teams shared upgrades so a team of the same race had that advantage over a multi-race team. Further, imagine the potential for hybrid units (e.g. infested terran) that could then be implemented to give an incentive to play multi-race teams.

[@kayj312]

absolutely incredible! the future of sc2

[@DrMJJr]

GOBLIN IS A BEAST!!! Holy shit that man knows how to manage his eco!!

[@fanofsporks]

Never been interested in watching 2v2, but you made it so entertaining.

[@chasearnold6254]

Christmas came early this year with these bangers!!

[@Erik_123]

more greatest 2v2 pro games pls S2

[@CoolTI-Daniel]

Back in the very late 90's I used to be solid in Starcraft. I agree that on 2v2's... 2 perfeclty synched players can destroy. I used to play with a buddy of mine who was far better then me and together, we would always try to get games where we can do us 2 vs 4 people. After winning the game, my buddy would quit so his stats were like 100w 1570 losses... he would leave and I would ally victory with one of our enemies when they had a good attitude. I miss old Battlenet. Funny how well optimized that original starcraft game was... ran on a Pentium120 with 16mb of ram and windows 95. I started it with a K6-233, 32mb ram, windows98 and 56k modem internet. Classic Blizzard was legendary.

[@RMarkNolan]

I'm already convinced, 2v2 is my favourite game format. I play it with my son, and it is epic!

[@tartipouss]

Just needed to see "base trade" in the title to know it was going to be good. And the 2v2 is the cherry on top and the decoration made of sugar, at the same time.

[@tartipouss]

Welp, the title was completely changed...

[@フワー]

The pro 1v1 scene might be very stale, but Marc's videos are top tier in that mode as well :)

[@FeistyCABOOSE]

Saw a bumbersticker that said "I'm a silly goose" and thought of you

[@weswesriddd]

I actually play the exact same way as both of you in team games. 3 nix, across the map first thing, to pick up Protoss gas probes. 3 stargate too. :) Also when playing tvp, sending my first 2-4-6 hells across the map to literally just snipe probes. Completely ignoring stalkers.

[@maugst.2523]

I never knew about the balancing pro players ! Thanks for informing me !

[@genehenson8851]

Yes, please. More 2v2! I totally agree that 1v1 is getting kind of stale and I hope we see more 2v2 in the future.

[@zenoen]

the mothership is the only crazy change the balance counsel has made and it is nice to have for sure.

[@june-ls1hw]

Wow I love your casting!

[@njdarda]

excited for whatever you're cooking man!

[@sojo10241024]

I for one would love to see casts of all of your favorite games.

[@Scarecrow-zr3zx]

more of these pro 2v2 to see the true potential of the combinations

[@Gashnaw]

A community doing balance patches. Sounds like what i was doing in WC3. I made a game that was 5 races (Naga included) But i added more to the game 7 heroes per race (so 35 heroes total) along with one Mercenary hero. A Dragon. Only available as a tier 4 hero (Yes you could get to tier 4.) Most of the the Tavern heroes were split up to other races. But some got a reskin. (Like Brewmaster being a Dwarf,) And some heroes had their kits completely reworked in favor of other heroes being used (Like frost mage getting two of Archmage's abilities and a Lich ability. I also added some new units for each race (Like Ogre for Orcs) We played over Lan, usually about 5 of us, but we sometimes have 8. or in rare cases a full 12. (I had one 12 player map, most were 8 players, i and i made a few maps for 5 way FFA since that was our usual amount. I was the one who did balancing and fixing bugs we found. Some maps also favored Naga with the amphibious ability. Eventually I made a mode where you get randomized heroes. You build your alter and it could be ANY hero from ANY race. (With some edits such as making Death coil heal friendly and hurt foe instead of how it works usually) This ended up being the mode we played from then on. My Custom game died as random heroes was so much fun. We had 32 heroes we could roll. (And yes you could get two of the same hero. It was rare but one game we had a guy running three Goblin Tinkerers. Usually if there was gonna be muti0-hero, it was 2 of the same. (It also forces you to get familiar with each hero as while you may never build a Lich, you have no choice. (You don't know what hero you get until it finishes training.) Taverns also did exist in this, but just as a quick revive, and they were not great spots to venture to. Night elf had the advantage (Wisps) so i eventually just removed them. Taverns were proving to be a problem as despite being in a really crappy area, they were often used due to having a level 7 or 8 hero that takes forever and a half to revive. All in all, i was the one working on balancing.

[@IsaacScharp]

In 1v1 you have 3 options vs 3 options. In 2v2 you have 6 options vs 6 options, that is a lot more potential matchups with a lot less that is under control.

[@aroadtorome7683]

A humble offering for the almighty algorithm.

[@FlashTheMusik]

Yes please cast more of your games! ❤

[@Blindsighter787]

would love to see exciting and fun 2v2 games! I play 2v2 and 3v3 with friends (around high plat) and always looking for new ideas strats and build orders and just fun 2v2 or 3v3 to watch. we are T P and Z when playing 3v3.

[@lubosdanis5547]

"let me know if you would like to see more of my sc2 tournament games" ... have to keep rewatching videos to fill my thermy addiction...the more the better :)

[@aeonstar293]

I like 4v4 and 3v3 as well.

[@MrDrifter762]

Broken Arrow has been learning me a lot about multi versus and how fun and dynamic they get. Im down for adding colors to the rubric cube

[@skyperskyte]

I liked the yap. Please keep yapping

[@treesaretough]

I feel like 2v2 actually has some early game play. When they made game start have more workers the 1v1 sorta skips right into midgame. Also have you ever wondered what a 2v2 archon mode game would look like lol

[@MrMCDiggles]

@14:58 12 gateways absolutely insane screen.

[@curtisarchambault5346]

When you say you do this always.... Show every Marc video possible 😳

[@adunnathvixis5409]

I have a 2v2 tournament for friends who never played Starcraft planned for 28/12, I will set up Twitch in the upcoming days. The commentary will be in Czech language, but anyone is invited to watch the upcoming clown fiesta.

[@Phi1618033]

It would be nice to see more 2v2 at the pro tournaments.

[@romanninjaprincess4477]

I've been watching some other content creators play modded races with like, Warcraft 3 races and Brood war races injected into SC2. Is that something you would ever consider getting into?

[@mikeshivak]

Love 2v2s. I was hype to hear stormgate focusing on 3v3... but thay didnt reqlly happen

[@Leeroy49]

Yes we know every GM player :). Merry x-mas. Great tournament.

[@Samsemillya]

Can you energy recharge an allied unit like a banshee ?

[@JerryBlane]

crazy game!! more like this pls

[@gui1521]

+1 for the stonks thumbnail

[@AnotherDaniel]

If you ever get the chance try some "feed builds". One player does macro and gives minerals and gas while the other spams late game units, me and a friend played against it on the ladder and it felt strong.

[@UnBless]

Good job, well, my experience is 1 vs 1 if one side makes mistake, then result is very hard to change. But 2 vs 2, even makes mistake, teammate can fix mistake, so result will change very easy. So normally I play 2 vs 2 or more, 1 vs 1 depend on what RTS game I'm playing.

[@GrahamSmith1523]

More 2v2 tournaments and content please!

[@weswesriddd]

I would LOVE to see team tournaments.

[@gcl2783]

Yes. Make casting 2v2 a thing. Get PiG and ZombieGrub on board for casting 2v2 as well.

[@antihackerify]

I used to like playing 4v4, i aways prefered compared to 1v1.

[@amNotRed]

Same, the chaos and all the wacky but strong strats U can pull off there is really fun!

[@justinh4005]

more 2v2 love the strategies and love your commentary

[@zaftnotameni]

please cast more of these great games !!!!

[@somedude1313]

basetrades that somehow stabilize into a macro game are the coolest thing in sc, never seen that in a 2v2!

[@UnlistedAccount]

Yes plz upload your games w commentary like this as well.

[@BobertJoe]

Damn those guys sure got gobbled!