Please nerf this lol

[@ShawkR6]

DON'T FORGET TO SUBSCRIBE :)

[@TaderW1]

Please don't nerf this gun

[@dune__foresight]

what are your thoughts about 2 bullet light shotgun ?

[@Mr-R.R.]

While the gun isn't the most balanced, you can't act like it's skillless either because it's not. You're in the top top percentile. So your naturally going to get a lot more benefit from it than most people. For most people, this is the hardest gun to use effectively. It's a high risk/skill, high reward gun that's currently OP.

[@manyblock4192]

Skill my a*s, I have bad aim and this weapon literally keep my kill count above 10 which I couldn't achieve normally using heavy this season All u do just don't move mouse and keep moving left right and aligned with enemy lmao

[@Mr-R.R.]

@manyblock4192 you just described reticle placement which is part of aiming, genius..... You may not have top tier aim, but you still need above average aim to make it work effectively and often. And the reason you're having better luck than heavy is because medium is meta and this gun is OP. Did you not read what I said? Both things can be true. It's a skillful, but OP weapon. Way more skillful than FAMAS or akm

[@Pistonio]

Back on model I see. I would love to see you and sanguine go against eachother with the model.

[@SanguineNightsTV]

Ngl the weapon is boring af like the pike. I barely enjoy using it anymore. Both need a nerf. In the model's case, it's just severely power crept since they nerfed EVERY viable ranged gun in the game. In the Pike's case, it launched as the most OP gun ever in the game besides launch day FCAR. And the nerf did 0. GG

[@ShawkR6]

Exactly

[@ekillershark2815]

Maybe if he carried on about how balanced the gun was for a little longer I would have watched but he didnt whine enough.

[@roe4822]

For real, bro is killing people in quick cash against casual players and is complaining the entire time about how unfair it is...

[@kricketune3531]

While I think the gun is super good, whenever you show quick play gameplay it makes it seem way better than it is. Truth is this gun is really good in the hands of good players. There’s a plenty of nuances to learn with the model - when you do hit your shots though it feels super strong

[@OfficialTheOne]

agreed

[@sucettebleu346]

LOL

[@hamzanasri9414]

it's really good in the hands of good players like EVERY weapon should be

[@thegoldentheory]

There’s nothing to nerf… it has almost no range, one of the lowest DPS weapons, and will always lose to the pike if the pike player hits their shots. Takes forever to reload. Cant stay in the fight consistently because of that.

[@Bigdogg674]

I think it’s balanced tbh not a lot of range and if you miss you can get killed super fast

[@Bigdogg674]

Not to mention if you fighting a full team and your alone you more than likely will die it’s mainly good for 1v1s and close range as well

[@bhknova198]

It’s only powerful because everything else is so mediocre.

[@NekoParaAra]

I feel like model shotgun is pay to win. Animation in fights feels faster then default skin when shooting between shots. Flip animation faster.

[@slep10101]

The worst thing in this game is when you’re balling and your teammates don’t drag it out. A possible 30-40 kill game stuck at 16-17

[@jesselokken]

@ShawkR6 would you post your interface specs somewhere? I’d Ike to try the reticle like the way you have it setup.

[@Pistonio]

I think the models got to 2 shot lights, 3 shot mediums, and 4 shot heavies (headies only)

[@ShawkR6]

it 2 shots Mediums and Lights. Embark sent me a spreadsheet with all of the weapon stats so thats how I know it has the same TTK for L/M. I also tested it in the firing range + you can see it 2 shotting most of the mediums in the video. It should be at least 3 shot for M otherwise its to strong

[@Pistonio]

@@ShawkR6 There are so many factors about the model that need to be tweaked. The dmg on connecting every pallet is like 128 which means 16 dmg per pallet. I think they need to reduce the dmg per pallet to 14 or 13 and adjusting it even further depending on whether you hit headies or body shots(pretty sure it doesn't have any increased critical hit dmg) at different ranges. The dmg falloff range starts at around 27-30m ig which needs to be lowered as it doesn't make sense for a shotgun(not even modern) to have that long of a dmg falloff range.

[@nihjt8602]

Swear this 1 shots lights

[@ext.1241]

the shotgun can't deal headshot damage

[@akahayden]

How did the Model 1887 become so OP? Did Embark buff it, or did everything get nerfed? I honestly don’t know how a lot of guns can just get unbalanced 🤷

[@Riveqs]

Nerfed other weapons

[@akahayden]

@@Riveqs ty

[@FearLegion-co8gg]

Its just the most consistant option for the medium and doesnt suffer at all from sliding, jumping etc. 2 shots mediums etc. Its not really even that its overpowered, its just that the ARs got nerfed too much. The pike is pretty solid too; so alot of mediums are using the model and pike depending on the comps and teams youre facing

[@akahayden]

@@FearLegion-co8gg Oh, that makes way more sense. ARs have been feeling really weak.

[@spudo6]

It's the only gun in the game that has never been changed before, so while everything else is needed the model has come to light and people only in the last few months have realised it's power

[@kevinmota2167]

Its anoying when someone's good at it. Like any other weapon, but still requires a lot of skill. He probably got wrecked by a bunch of model users and used it to make this video, but you're just skilled bud. I also find the dagger to be insanely effective and find it also so anoying to face against, but one time i tried it myself and it was not easy to use just requires alot of skill.

[@zvydvy]

bro it doesnt need a nerf lol i i severly dislike the nerf crap ur a top skill player in quick cash

[@unit3440]

Exactly that's what I was thinking lol

[@Kari-n9n]

I think the Model has a large skill gap in terms of combining movement and aim that not many weapons in the game have. The Revolver could have a similar thing but it shoots a single bullet per trigger pull and has bloom so I do not believe it is comparable. The Model needs a damage nerf for sure because having the same ttk against medium and light is insane, but i don't think it is this OP god gun you think it is, the player has to do lots of heavy lifting to make up for its downsides

[@spudo6]

Yeah well as a top 100 player everyone in my games uses it and it's just to OP in competitive

[@Kari-n9n]

@@spudo6 I appreciate you accepting my premise. Considering there will always be an OP weapon, would you rather have one with a large skill gap be OP like the Model or one with a more compressed skill gap like the Pike be OP?

[@Chimugen]

Two shots mediums/lights. Absurd. Playing diamond/top 500 this is all you see. It’s insanely easy to use. Trying to justify how unbalanced this gun is a crazy take.

[@Kari-n9n]

@Chimugen not reading my whole comment and replying anyways is even crazier

[@cobaltjayy]

one hits light close range

[@dimi2464]

the only one who still believes in the Finals

[@Y3ZFLY]

Please don't nerf it

[@monkey-with-the-drip5296]

Yes they should

[@JacobStrife]

You've inspired me to go back into gunslinger phase. What is your sensitivity my guy? Haven't played with you in a while. This is Thorfinn btw😉

[@JaedenRodriguez]

FR nerf the shotgun because it hasn’t gotten not even one nerf to it

[@armintor2826]

I understand that they wanted a shotgun that was usable at medium range, but the solution to that was to tighten the spread, NOT give the gun 130 fucking damage per shot. Having both is ridiculous. Thats like if the KS-23 just didnt have falloff damage at all.

[@Riveqs]

Agreed😂

[@hamzanasri9414]

well the thing is it's not easy to get the 130 you need to have really good aim if you don't hit the right spot it's a lot lower damage and people like shawk can use any weapon and dominate it doesn't even matter

[@naveenck]

It’s does more than 140 damage. 2 shots to head a medium dies same goes to light, heavy take more shots.

[@ahmeddudha2658]

No offence but you clearly have 0 idea about the model lol. Its max dmg is 128 and it does not crit lol

[@whimsabo]

I'd love to see sanguine jay and shawk go against each other on the model

[@ItzTatoOfficial]

NOO DONT NERF MODLE D:

[@Riveqs]

Model definitely broken but it is hella fun to use icl hopefully when they fix it they don’t ruin the weapon completely

[@615smittyjs]

really only the upper 5 percent or less is good with this gun, im around 430 hours in the finals and ran into less the 10 people that actually use this at your level.

[@6Drift-p8b]

I got Covid & all I wanna do is play this game, that frustrates the hell out of me

[@ginocarrasco3432]

Lmao needs a nerf quick, ran into you in quick cash the other day tho nice playing with you hope you been blessed

[@psycotic6]

Love u Shawk =]

[@BGR4703]

that title change 😭😭😭😭😭

[@spudo6]

Shawk would love some tips and tricks videos, or like a series like you used to do copper to champ ect. Maybe its just me but the flashy pub stomping gets a little boring after a while and not engaging enough. Ahh idk maybe its just me, keep playing the finals though please

[@hybridfn6466]

1 hour of a grown man crying about the model

[@QUANTPAPA]

you never have random unreal engine crashes?

[@ciangaming2054]

sheeesh! here we go again.

[@charlio0903]

Change the title! It doenst need a nerf- best weapon for close range but sucks when far- it’s balance 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@OfficialTheOne]

the gun might need a range nerf. and now m11 being so op with sights it need to 2 shot lights. it's only good in the hands of good players ,the gun has a large skill gap. and this guy is shitting on casual players so no shit its op. and for people who cry about this gun remember you aren't shawk, see how this guy recoil control fcar? it takes huge skill to master it

[@lobefish5006]

The Finals discord is full of nothing but requests to nerf this thing and mediums defending it. …I’m just going to stick to my AK :)

[@dprophecyguy]

bro changed the title

[@FadedThought]

I remember debating somebody on one of your other videos. The dude sucked at trying to defend the model and how its not broken. This video proves it and so does most encounters with the gun.

[@ShawkR6]

its horrifically overpowered and takes absolutely no skill to use

[@FadedThought]

@@ShawkR6 agreed 👍

[@ctrs7410]

​@@ShawkR6for me it does, I suck.

[@sucettebleu346]

Yes please

[@yxfox]

The Model needs less damge, the M11 needs less and range and damage, The Sword needs charged attack nerf. Charge Slam damage to players needs nerfed. Riot shield hitbox while running and attacking needs nerfed. Deagles need ADS rapid fire spread nerf. AKM and FCAR hipfire needs buffed. 93R needs damage buff. Dual Blades need more range, or damage, or attack speed. Pyro Grenade needs damage buff. I just want to see an equal amount of use and fairness for all weapons and equipment instead of always see everyone use the same thing cause it's simply better. Where's the variety?!

[@-j-j-c]

did u just ask for a riot shield nerf

[@yxfox]

@@-j-j-c yes cause there's no reason to hold block with it since the current shield running and swinging animation still blocks shots like crazy

[@TheUglyBoards]

If they nerf the model the pike will takeover and nobody wants that. It also doesn’t need a nerf.

[@Vcamo]

Ur conternt is so wierd is this rage bait or what. Any decent player can shred in casual with every weapon this proves nothing. U are playing quick cash like its your rank up game in ranked and complaining about everyone in the lobby just goofing around. Saying this gun takes no skill is stupid aswell u have to hit pretty much everything to be effective with the gun. Sure it can get nerfed but the real reason this gun is op bcs people stack it in one team.

[@richardcarter8751]

Okay I'd like to see you make a video where you drop 20 + kills and one quick cash round with the 93r. Now compare that one video to the dozens of the same video but with the Model.

[@Vcamo]

@richardcarter8751 only weapons I haven't dropped 20 in quick cash are bow,sniper and medium melee weapons. Im not saying other weapons are as good as model but to prove that destroying in casual BCS U have above average aim and movement doesn't make a gun broken. In my opinion stacking medium with heals and defibs make model seem way better than it is. Make atleast ranked one class each and U wouldn't see model so much.

[@spudo6]

Drop your name then bucko, if you were even a diamond player you would know how played and op this weapon is, yes shawk Is a pubs merchant but the gun is op and pretty low skill for the competitive players

[@TkShboss]

Model, Sword, DMRs, Throwing Knives are just disgusting. Whoever is on the balancing team should’ve been fired months ago

[@Илерми]

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