Pleasure To Kill VS Persecution Mania (Kreator VS Sodom Guitar Riffs Battle)

[@hibick3]

Kreator's riffs are pure evil, sounds really devilish and furious. In other hand, Sodom evokes an unstoppable machinery, like a tank crushing the road below it. Love both, greetings from Mexico!

[@DanielRodriguez-cr8ns]

Ya fui a ambos conciertos de ambas bandas, el de sodom fue gratis en Colombia.

[@hibick3]

@@DanielRodriguez-cr8ns Qué dicha ver gratis a Sodom, yo también he visto a ambos en vivo, y lastimosamente el de Kreator tuvo un mal audio así que espero verlos de nuevo en el futuro.

[@k-chill8428]

Please do Extreme Agression vs Agent Orange!

[@cheekibreeki921]

I've always seen Kreator as the German Slayer and Sodom as the German Megadeth now that you mentioned this

[@SonOfTheLion]

@@cheekibreeki921 I turned my brother on to Pleasure to Kill and the first thing he did was describe them as German Slayer. I think that is why I prefer Kreator to Sodom.

[@metalista6665]

Extreme Agression VS Agent Orange 1989

[@TheSuffocater]

I had that in mind too 😀

[@ЕгорЦарев-щ4ф]

Extream Agression -круче ,он на порядок сложнее и соло лучше Вообще с этим периодом с Креатором с Европы точно!!! Никто конкурировать не мог Содом в 1987 круче Креатора

[@linusfotograf]

German thrash metal was so much different than the Bay Area variant.

[@LuisCastillo-rt5nk]

agree, it was far more brutal, nearing the death/black range, in fact i’d say Pleasure to Kill was the precursor to brutal thrash/death thrash.

[@Jesus-fz5ks]

@@LuisCastillo-rt5nk more of black imo but yes ^^

[@LuisCastillo-rt5nk]

@@Jesus-fz5ks Sodom was definitely a precursor to black metal, whereas Kreator feels more death, but overall they both achieved that grittier sound characteristic that 90’s extreme metal used

[@neverman3398]

Pleasure To Kill is a thrash metal masterpiece.

[@C-Ro]

From the songs to the production to the cover.... simply perfect.

[@thetrooper4743]

@@C-Ro And... oh, I got to tell you, it was perfect. Perfect. Everything, down to the last minute details.

[@robinanwaldt]

@@C-RoProduction..? Sorry, but, how? I have a hard time listening to almost anything from that album because everything sounds just so messy and indecipherable. Slower songs like Riot of Violence are fine, but the faster stuff? It sometimes sounds like the instruments are tripping over each other.

[@C-Ro]

@@robinanwaldt Yes! And that is the point. It's raw, it's savage like everything else on this masterpiece. Straight in your face. Like an assault of an insane serial killer. They played it live and do some leads and overdubs.

[@slaythembeforeme]

It's a Thrashterpiece

[@backyardboogiewoogie]

Pleasure to Kill dropped 6 months before Reign in Blood in 1986. I remember hearing this record and the slow wind blowing before the happy notes of Choir of the Damned thinking this is going to explode and it does, of course, with Ripping Corpse. When Slayer's record his store shelves we of course applauded and lapped up every bit of the classic album it eventually became. My goodness, Jeff Hanneman's skill and ability as a song writer cannot be overstated. Nevertheless, PTK remained and remains a staple in my playlist to this day; I'm 52.

[@TheSuffocater]

Word !

[@IwieIch123]

Pleasure to Kill is way heavier than Reign in Blood imo. Love both albums though

[@maciejbasczok3262]

@@IwieIch123 for me it is also a way better :) generalny i consider kreator the bedt thrash band

[@rodoxxs6134]

Times that Never will come Back... 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

[@PeteJamesMedia]

I’m 49 and concur 🤘🏽

[@ericsalinas1839]

Imagine how many bands are influenced directly or indirectly by these bands.

[@thrashnicity5913]

Imagine how these two bands are influenced on each other

[@marioalexanderski9598]

Sodom tried death metal later on.

[@pozhitkos564]

@@marioalexanderski9598 their first EP are clean black metal, so i think it's possibly to say that they are proto-black metal band

[@Sean-fv4wi]

@@marioalexanderski9598 more like right from the beginning. The vocals on both Sodom & Kreator's early albums are just as harsh as Possessed in the mid 80s.

[@TheSuffocater]

Love them both !!

[@Ally466]

Really enjoy your videos and your guitars are sick

[@099_fahrezirafid8]

Love em both, but Pleasure To Kill is on another level

[@crovian1985]

Yes amazing bands 🤘🤘

[@Lijoje]

Same here!

[@crovian1985]

Yes 🤘🤘

[@ibfreely8952]

Frank did his best work in Sodom imo

[@johanbatcron1206]

could be one of the reasons to why he is back.

[@sassaniandynasty3796]

Bernemann

[@johanbatcron1206]

@@sassaniandynasty3796 Bernemann is also amazing, M-16 is one of my favorite albums by Sodom

[@michi4277]

hell yeah! I absolutely love Frank's contribution to Sodom, I'm glad he's back

[@jennyprorock]

Normally I can pick a side..this ones too close to call. Perfection as always Sir Suffocator.

[@TheSuffocater]

Thanks a lot ! Glad you like it 😁

[@BloodborneTorres]

Extreme Aggression VS Agent Orange

[@Forferdelse666]

Kreator is good and all, but Sodom has that extra kick to it which totally blows Kreator off the tracks for me. PERSECUTION MANIAAA! 🤘🏼🔥🔥

[@alejandromolina2435]

i second that! Sodom got the upper hand!

[@SouthernOregonReps]

Completely 💯 DISAGREE! But cheers!

[@Forferdelse666]

@@SouthernOregonReps Totally allowed to :) Skål!

[@johanbatcron1206]

yeah i agree with that, this could offcourse have to do with the fact that i prefer Sodom over Kreator. I believe that if you'd look at the bands overall and their careers, i'd say that Sodom wins BY FAR. Kreator released some weird stuff in the 90s but Sodom was allways (and still are) amazing. When it comes to these two albums, things quickly becomes harder. They are both amazing, but they are going for a very different sound so its really hard to compare them.

[@alejandromolina2435]

@@johanbatcron1206Agree with you, Sodom imo is better and more consistent in anyway and form

[@AhoooY1]

Gotta give it to Sodom here, Persecution Mania is probably one of my top 3 favourite albums of all time!

[@jaimeagc]

complete agree !!!

[@avitohol-ts4jn]

absolutely..

[@Tigerloco70]

What about the bulsshit before that one

[@Tigerloco70]

Have you heard the 2 sodom fitst ep and album? Its pure crap , when kreator was all fired up , sodom got respect till the 3rd album

[@xraygamer9895]

@@Tigerloco70 tbf, in the sign of evil is better than the entire kreator and sodom discography.

[@brapamaldi]

Sodom fought an awesome battle here, but for me Kreator came out the victors by one axe swing. Very, very close battle!!!

[@jordiumethar4963]

Dude, those riff's are pure magic for my ears !!!!. Dude!!!! Undeeeeerrr the guiiiiiillotine. I love Kreator, I almost have the entire discography of him 💪🏻. I love Ventor

[@Lijoje]

I grew up listening to that album and in my opinion that was the best song there!

[@bradzillarocks]

Trick question, the answer is Destruction! Seriously, these videos are awesome and it's impossible to choose so I'd say it's a tie. Keep them coming!

[@leonardmoney5986]

Request: Rust In Peace Vs Seasons In The Abyss

[@thephilosopher666]

So nice to hear these riffs with modern sound quality!

[@claytong2018]

Do an agent orange vs extreme aggression video next!

[@PolkCountyWIProgressive]

That is a tad unfair to Kreator. Agent Orange is possibly the best thrash album of 1989.

[@derekobs9688]

@@PolkCountyWIProgressive Beneath the remains

[@PolkCountyWIProgressive]

@@derekobs9688 It’s a close one for me, but I would just barely put Agent Orange on top. Beneath the Remains is super good though.

[@gonadmigraines1984]

​@@derekobs9688The years of decay better

[@rockriverash3120]

I'm probably biased a bit because I listen to Kreator a lot, so I have to give them the edge, but all these riffs are superb.... they all got my head bangin'!!

[@srj_br]

Amo ambos os álbuns, mas Persecution Mania rules!

[@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS]

I'm gonna vote Sodom on this one cuz I barely heard much Kreator (for no good reason, sounds killer) I remember this Sodom vinyl had an 8x10 glossy band photo included! They had the coolest names...

[@IwieIch123]

Pleasure to Kill and Extreme Agression for example are some of the finest and heaviest thrash has to offer

[@thinkforyourself2109]

Pleasure to Kill, Hell Awaits & Reign in Blood (Slayer), Eternal Devastation (Destruction), Bonded by Blood (Exodus), Beneath the Remains (Sepultra), Seven Churches (Possessed), Harmony Corruption (Napalm Death) -- I played these albums (vinyl of course) back in the 1980s endlessly. I think this was Kreator's best album and certainly one of the great thrash albums of all time.

[@alnikur87]

And the winner is................... SODOM

[@arturoalmazan5262]

kreator sodom both are great. But I have to go with kreator on this one. pleasure to kill is an influential thrash metal album that almost gave birth to death metal. Sodom persecution mania awesome too. they are both great bands and albums

[@RudalPL]

HA! Love both albums. There are no bad tracks on either of them. But I am leaning towards Kreator over all so Pleasure To Kill comes on top for me.

[@marcobaldini6568]

Conjuration seems like the German thrash version of Whiplash by Metallica

[@karlmikhailtibule1481]

I love these both albums they're killer, brutal and energetic.🤘

[@damienking100]

My 2 fave german thrash lps. Tough call but i think frank blackfire's riffs for sodom win.

[@danielthrashits]

2 classic thrash albums 🤘

[@danielhx3187]

Yeah, I really enjoy Franks play in Sodom, especially on percecusion mania. Dude, you have to compare this Sodom release with later Kreator releases after Frank joined in Kreator!

[@Gregbaltzer]

I would say Agent Orange vs. Coma of Souls. Renewal sucked

[@saraivatoledo1842]

Another great video ! I´ve always favoured Kreator over Sodom for some reason , this video just shows me another angle as to why that was/is .

[@outcastzero]

Two albums, two different eras. It was better to battle Pleasure to Kill vs Obsessed by Cruelty or better Terrible Certainty vs Persecution Mania Anyway, great work as usual...

[@METALSCAVENGER78]

It's great two compare the absolute best albums by these 2 bands, which are Pleasure to Kill and Persecution Mania of course

[@ironrose5613]

Hell yeah! You ROCK. 🤘Greetings from Germany

[@TheSuffocater]

Danke ! Gruß aus Düsseldorf !

[@ironrose5613]

@@TheSuffocater 😅😜👍👍👍

[@Lijoje]

@@TheSuffocater Boa, wirklich? Gruß aus Berlin!

[@adammesic]

As always, a great idea with some outstanding performance. I admire the precision in your playing and the share speed and strength U have built in years. Playing 3 Sodom or Kreator songs in a row with no real breaks can give you cramps and muscle fever, no matter in how good playing condition (shape) one is in. Iconic albums and a great choice!

[@godetonter4764]

Sodom were cleaning up their sound around Persecution Mania, and Kreator were at their most extreme , so it's an odd pairing

[@disidenciatotal]

Me quedo con Sodom, excelente toque, amigo saludos desde Colombia, Sur América.

[@kasiakowalska500]

In my opinion Pleasure To Kill was a real introduction to death metal, before Death (Scream Bloody Gore).Kreator was a bit ahead of their time. Greetings from Poland.

[@gonadmigraines1984]

7 churches by possessed is still the first death metal record though came out in 1985

[@bhcamaro2002]

Have to give it to Sodom on this one!

[@lejnab1947]

🤘🤘Oh Hell Yeah, both of them my FAVORITE BAND🤘🤘 I 🖤🖤🖤🖤 (DEAD/THRAH/BLACK/BRUTAL/DOOM/GRIND/STONER/HEAVY/) METAL..🤘🤘 I'm the one who Listening All The PROFESSIONAL GUITARIST like T. Iommy, (RIP)C.Schuldiner, (RIP) J. Hanneman, T.Azagthoth, T.Peres, A.West, J.Murphy, Eric & Brian Hoffmann, (RIP) D.Darrell & S.Ian... Including You🤘 🤘🤘CHUCK my Best🤘🤘 🤘🖤🖤from Meghalaya 🇮🇳 🤘

[@Ammerstol]

German thrash for pure aggression!! Love the video!!!

[@threadworm437]

I used to listen to Sodom and Kreator alot before I got deep into Japanese metal, this took me back, great bands

[@slaythembeforeme]

Bro drowned deep in the sea of Japanese metal lol.

[@CarloTheImmortal]

What are some recs brosef

[@threadworm437]

@@CarloTheImmortal Rosenfeld - Pigs of the empire album, Aion - Deathrash Bound album, Threadworm - Parasitism album

[@innate7260]

as a guitarist Sodoms music has always been easy to play,,kreators music became more n more technical (terrible certainty onwards) ...pleasure to kill was probably the last of the more basic kreator albums,,,nice playing mate;) i love both bands

[@DamageInc-nx9gu]

I absolutely love your videos as well as your outstanding playing. You don’t copy these awesome tunes, you give a phenomenal tribute to these classic, iconic metal songs. It’s always a pleasure watching you enjoy playing ‘em. Be safe, and Happy New Year!

[@I.P1976]

Great work as usual. Love both bands but Kreator edges it for me

[@sinisterjeremy830]

Bro thats awesome!!!! Yesterday i mentioned teutonic thrash and here it is 🤘🙂🥃 you made my day Thank you !

[@matiascandia4946]

Im biased cuz sodom is my favorite metal band but jeez all these riffs are insane, love kreator too

[@robschreuder8168]

Pleasure, darkness descends and hell awaits are my top 3 (evil) thrash albums of all time... Sodom is also good.

[@benjohnston3369]

@4:09 both suffocators and myself were doing the same thing

[@omarramirez6114]

Pleasure to kill win !!! This album is better than reing blood, master of puppets, peace sells

[@speedmetalinvasion]

Pleasure to kill is the greatest album in extreme music!

[@cannibal666]

Listened to both back in the day. kreator technical n rythmic. Sodom agressive n brutal both rule💥🤘👹 666

[@_zoinks2554]

Ahh, the German thrash kings. Great choices here and well played as usual \m/

[@Toxic-Lemon]

Обе банды очень сильны. Пожалуй для меня лучшие представители данных жанров. Не выбрать.

[@markmiller8723]

Another cracking video featuring 2 of Germanises finest thrash bands. You are awesome my metal brother 🤘❤️🤘keep em coming 🤘🤘

[@TheSuffocater]

Thanks mate !

[@marombadorefineiro1453]

I have great memories of playing golden axe as a kid while listening to pleasure to kill in my mp4 player. Great times, great times...

[@miyamotomusashi142]

bro you deserve much more subscribers/ You make Best quality video og this type, and your sound is best, love it!!

[@noahcowand5781]

The comparison I've lowkey been waiting for

[@8JimenoJay]

Maravilloso trabajo👍👍 solo falto Destructión con Release From Agony....asi para juntar a los 3 Gigantes🇩🇪 + Deathrow🇩🇪

[@lexlutor7842]

Pleasure to kill - The myth Persecution mania - The legend

[@randomfaca]

Between these two I have to go with Sodom. Always was more of a pure thrash fan, and while I can absolutely respect what Kreator did for the death metal scene with this, I'm just not that into it. Just a tad too chaotic and incoherent for my tastes. Plus, I am a massive sucker for Sodom's thrash breaks and they are at their peak on Persecution. I will say Coma of Souls is god-tier thrash and arguably better than anything Sodom ever did (and I'm a huge Sodom fan)

[@tomilidzons6250]

Thank you TheSuffocater for coming back to classics ... giants ... thrash metal so often. In Ur interpretation, everything sounds beautiful.

[@greatkali5866]

ich gucke jetzt schon 2 Jahre deine videos und bemerke jetzt erst, dass du nicht nur Deutscher bist, sondern auch aus meiner Heimatstadt kommst.. cheers. vote for kreator

[@ozineycruz6062]

O Pleasure To Kill é um dos álbuns que eu mais gosto não apenas do Thrash metal... Mas do gênero " metal" como um todo. Juntamente com Bestial Devastation/ Morbid Visions do Sepultura. Foram discos muito importantes para mim.

[@redmetal89]

Plessure to kill ist ein Meisterwerk. Ventor super bei riot of violence. The pestilence 👌🏻 ein Genuss

[@eenpersoon2881]

Awesome, two of the best thrash albums period! If you take suggestions, how about a duel between some of the latest golden thrash era albums, Tapping the Vein vs. Epidemic of Violence?

[@Mazen.M978]

Two killer albums , you are awesome dude

[@dylanrus8117]

Two of the best ever thrash bands I couldn’t live without them

[@jaimuzyka3177]

It should be more like Terrible Certainty vs Persecution

[@ancientloredude]

I know both bands, have albums from both, and both are great. I also bought them in Germany, which is where both groups originate. “Pleasure to Kill” wins because it’s a legendary thrash album that few have touched.

[@crovian1985]

Both excellent Bands, and 2 killer records. I'm more of a kreator fan than sodom. But I listen to both regularly. How about tankard vs destruction. Tankard are the most underrated of the teutonic 4,they have some killer riffs and I'd say the most energy in their songs

[@pantera89]

Both are great, I can't decide. \m/

[@MrThrash3d]

These two are definitely in my all time top 10 thrash records and by far best albums of each of the two bands.

[@omarabd847]

Good evening my dear, Happy new year 2022

[@MadAlhazred]

Have you ever done a gear video? It would be cool to see you go through all your amps and guitars.

[@thevikingwanderer2675]

I gotta go sodom on this one, I like the riffage towards it. Kreator is good sure, but sodom also has that drumming I like too

[@jonpike9502]

Kreator=the SLAYER of Germany 🇩🇪

[@playdiscgolf1546]

Yessir

[@IwieIch123]

More like Slayer the Kreator of the US. Kreator is superior in every aspect

[@derekobs9688]

@@IwieIch123 Lmao

[@slaythembeforeme]

@@IwieIch123 blasphemy

[@gUtted25]

Both are amazing bands, but Sodom it's more consistent in my opinion, they don't have a bad record

[@Tigerloco70]

😅😅 sodom first albums before persecution mania are piece of crap , kreator was already at full speed

[@gUtted25]

@@Tigerloco70 LOL, there is just one album before Persecution Mania: In the Sign of Evil it's an EP, and it was very important for the Black Metal scene. Kreator is a good band, but IMO isn't better than Sodom.

[@anbarazen]

Kreator and Sodom were very Big in the Underground scene here in Malaysia.... Cheers

[@bloodyroot4276]

Метал классика в кратком изложении! Ждём ещё!

[@alfonsocapone5392]

КРАСАВА!!

[@StonyK]

Sehr geil! Wie immer Top! Ich liebe beide! LG Thomas 🤘🤘🤘

[@jamessimpson6854]

2 of my favs ! Awesome

[@Joel-xy7qg]

Release from agony vs Chemical invasion?

[@davidrussell9290]

You turned me on to both of these bands and I thank you for that. Cool video.

[@juanadorno7228]

Two German gods!!!!!!!! Greetings from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷

[@robertneri8891]

Don't stop teaching..I learn a lot from you. Kick butt!!

[@ŚmieciowaAntysztukaB]

Very, very good! THANX!

[@aureliocastaneda1290]

Sin duda prefiero a Kreator.🎸😎

[@petersimsen6009]

Both albums are pure masterpieces! I have to give a slight edge to Sodom though

Hail the best split-screen Axeman of youtube! :)

[@soakindust]

This is great! Please do Destruction - Infernal overkill vs a Tankard album

[@SvenSWorldMetalTV]

Mannmann, die Matte und das in unserem Alter. 😃 Imponiert mehr als das geklampfe. 😉🤘

[@ramincheraghi4235]

Sodom persecution mania is better by kilometers it's pure classic thrash

[@SonOfTheLion]

I prefer Kreator but you have to respect Sodom for staying true in the 90s.

[@carvinieri5217]

Coma of Souls vs Pleasures of The Flesh

[@brooksonly7337]

I just totally dig your channell bro!

[@satanicpuppyoverlord9054]

Honestly...Sodom wins this for me. But that's probably because I like black metal a lil bit more than death metal. Kreator was obviously very death metal influential and Sodom very black influential even though this is after their mainly considered black metal material.

[@renzocarlosarroyogarnica5045]

Reign in blood and persecution manía are the Best thrash metal albums with a good production. Both sounds fast and heavy

[@Tigerloco70]

I love those 2 bands , saw them early 1990 and 1989 , i think kreator was a kick in the stomach , since the first album , sodom took a little more time to mature , persecution mania , agent orange the best , kreator pleasure to kill and flag of hate ep , blow my mind

[@jaytracks]

Love both and destruction as well!

[@MrHellbringer213]

Love Persecution Mania, however Pleasure To Kill is the greatest thrash album ever recorded, IMO.