Why INFJs Can’t Let Go of the Past

[@uliyankadoe118]

Soooooo interesting and accurate! Holistic mental apparatus working things out at the glacial pace is actually how nature and harmony work! Look at the evolutionary movement of biological life on this planet - it's unbelievably slow, methodical, and precise. If you step back from being a form/person into the uncreated nature of being that perspective begins to make sense more. Now my old question, or rather understanding comes in - is the INFJ slow to adapt, let go of the past, and move on or is this human-made world, nearly void of connection to natural laws, unsuited to our modes of existence? I think it's the second. As Krishanmurti said "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." So glad the tides are turning and soon we'll see more natural ways of living emerging globally. A world much better suited to INFJs and all Nis.

[@DMAC1301]

I am quickly finding this channel one I return to. It so refreshing hearing things that resonate so well. Ty.

[@RensRoom]

Delighted to hear it!

[@Little2276]

Very well described! Thank you

[@Coneman3]

I can see why INFPs with Si child want to like the past, and be aware of traditions etc. Yes, INFJ think a lot about past/future because they struggle with the present. Our wholistic and theoretical minds lend themselves to seeing overall patterns and trends, and this is at the expense of dynamism and accuracy wrt details. The apparent inflexibility is necessary to allow the realisation of the wholistic and theoretical conceptions, which are more valuable in general

[@c.lstrife]

Hey Ren Thanks for taking the time to answer that one for me and others. I really found it interesting and relatable, and I do agree with what you said about how we are stuck using the same methods consciously or subconsciously as well. Infjs, like any other type, are creatures of habit as well. Here are some questions: 1) Why do people always misunderstand what we say despite us being direct, clear and blunt to them? 2) Is it possible for an INFJ not to use their TI at all? 3) Why do we love to use analogies and symbolisms when we try to explain things in detail to others? (We are guilty of doing that the most 😂). 4) Why do certain types say that its hard to argue against INFJs? Sorry if my questions are repetitive, annoying or silly. Hope you have a great day though. 💜🫡

[@grumpyschnauzer]

This was great and precisely explains my relationship and outcome of my first marriage. The present is slow to percolate and arise and it cannot just consider the information in its immediacy. Our whole framework of what it is, what it means, how it fits into the context of past and future contexts... it's a lot to ask just abandon that whole trajectory for something fleeting in the present even if it's the best thing to do. It needs to build, it needs to become a force that moves things and us otherwise it gets tossed (lack of having Si). Still... unpleasant and destructive... sometimes for the better and sometimes for worse.

[@uliyankadoe118]

Well put! Thank you! Your insight helped me develop mine more :) Indeed, it is so much about discovering That force, which one of the philosopher's I study calls the original creative force. I call it the force of coherence or harmony, which has been literally turned upside down on this planet. When one is aligned with it, the present is no longer experienced as fleeting, but rather as fulfillment of the wholeness INFJ craves so much. This is how I work with it, by aligning my perceptive mechanisms as fully as possible with the original creative force which governs nature, but not so much man.

[@Leocifre]

Very relatable content, thank you. Can I have a link to a MBTI primer video? Where the functions and terminology is explained and what excludes each other and so forth…

[@__D10S__]

the holistic vs atomistic mind of Ji and Je is the static vs dynamic dichotomy in socionics

[@RensRoom]

Interesting. To be clear I associate holism with NiSe and atomism with NeSi.

[@__D10S__]

@@RensRoom I see. You are right that the position of Ni is associated with holism (distinct from Si), but would you say that Se doms are particularly holistic thinkers?

[@VeggieJohnx2]

Letting go of the past mental mechanisms/apparatus… Interesting. As an INFP that is different from my experience. I can almost mentally and emotionally time warp, bringing a past experience from my emotional experience reservoir, into current experience, feeling a lot of what was felt back then, into the now. I feel very ambivalent about the past, especially with relationships that moved me deeply, but I can no longer partake in those anymore. I can totally zone out and get stuck in that space of wistful yearning and pining. But Switching into a more Extraverted Intuition, Ne-mode, I feel like my spotlight of mental awareness can be distracted away from the past, and more focused on mentally processing the now for the sake of coming up with new hypotheses or connecting a bunch of ideas together. My mind seems to vacillate back and forth between different modes of being. I do try to adjust my mental approaches as a means of navigating relationships better. But perhaps that is different than the mental mechanisms you speak of. For example, the words I choose to use, and what I focus on, for the sake of relationship, keeps slowly evolving over time. (Perhaps an Fi relational decisions making thing. I find I do a lot of re-evaluations, especially after failed relationships, or loss of relationship, trying to determine what I now believe is important, and deciding what actions I wish to take now and into the future.)

[@NEEMS-x5g]

once infj understand the past its easier to let go. infj ti hold on to wanting to decipher over and over and over until they get the answer

[@naturalPaths]

Past, present, future. So confusing. Totally get it..

[@kennyutoob]

May I take you up on an implied offer from this one? Would you mind replaying, again, please, the difference between the atomistic vs. holistic perceptual characteristic of the respective extroverted vs. introverted preferences? Thanks.

[@RensRoom]

I'll do another video on the topic, no problem.

[@Thomas-fu8vp]

Proust was an InFP?

[@RensRoom]

Yes I believe so.